Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-16 Thread Yoram Halberstam
Hi Peter,

I'm using it in Bridge Mode or Host-Only - neither works.

It maybe a fallback solution to try NAT and try to set it up so that I can
get into the virtualbox via TCP... I'll try tonight if I'm not getting
anywhere. thanks for your help!

2009/6/15 Major Péter majorpe...@sch.bme.hu

 If you're using the VM in NAT mode, then you can't reach the guest network
 device (or vice versa) by default with SSH or any other type of mode. Here
 is a tutorial to make the SSH working (host can access to the guest):

 http://jimmyg.org/blog/2008/ssh-to-a-debian-etch-virtual-machine-in-virtualbox.html

 Peter

 2009-06-15 22:51 keltezéssel, Yoram Halberstam írta:

 E At the risk of being shot I'll say that there a lot of smart
 and easy thing on linux compare to windows, installing virtualbox and
 running and general gui config are not one of them!

 Thanks also, I may not be a wizz kid but I do go on google (and I
 wouldn't be there if I found the answers)... anyway all of this to
 realise that I did configure everything from the GUI already (I think).
 I prefer GUI than command line ;-)

 So now I used host -only and I used bridge... both work, (I realised
 eth0 was disabled) - with vboxnet0 and eth1 respectively I can
 communicate back to the host but not into the virtualbox Suse Any
 hint sir? (I've tried ssh)



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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-16 Thread Major Péter

Hi,

also you could read this:
http://www.giannistsakiris.com/index.php/2007/11/01/host-only-networking-for-virtualbox/
This tutorial is made for Ubuntu, but maybe there are some good ideas, 
which you can use.


Peter

2009-06-16 08:45 keltezéssel, Yoram Halberstam írta:

Hi Peter,

I'm using it in Bridge Mode or Host-Only - neither works.

It maybe a fallback solution to try NAT and try to set it up so that I
can get into the virtualbox via TCP... I'll try tonight if I'm not
getting anywhere. thanks for your help!

2009/6/15 Major Péter majorpe...@sch.bme.hu mailto:majorpe...@sch.bme.hu

If you're using the VM in NAT mode, then you can't reach the guest
network device (or vice versa) by default with SSH or any other type
of mode. Here is a tutorial to make the SSH working (host can access
to the guest):

http://jimmyg.org/blog/2008/ssh-to-a-debian-etch-virtual-machine-in-virtualbox.html

Peter

2009-06-15 22:51 keltezéssel, Yoram Halberstam írta:

E At the risk of being shot I'll say that there a lot of
smart
and easy thing on linux compare to windows, installing
virtualbox and
running and general gui config are not one of them!

Thanks also, I may not be a wizz kid but I do go on google (and I
wouldn't be there if I found the answers)... anyway all of this to
realise that I did configure everything from the GUI already (I
think).
I prefer GUI than command line ;-)

So now I used host -only and I used bridge... both work, (I realised
eth0 was disabled) - with vboxnet0 and eth1 respectively I can
communicate back to the host but not into the virtualbox
Suse Any
hint sir? (I've tried ssh)

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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-16 Thread Frank Murphy

On 15/06/09 22:05, Yoram Halberstam wrote:

How can kvm, xen, qemu and other help me? I know fedora has a lot of open
source for virtualization but I want to use virtual box as I have the images
ready, I know it, it's easy, and I find it more user friendly (some people
says it's faster too).

Any other suggestion?



My point was that they use this stuff, and may also have come across 
your problem in their working lives with Virtualbox , vmware etc..



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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-16 Thread Kevin Martin


Yoram Halberstam wrote:
 Hi Peter,

 I'm using it in Bridge Mode or Host-Only - neither works.

 It maybe a fallback solution to try NAT and try to set it up so that I
 can get into the virtualbox via TCP... I'll try tonight if I'm not
 getting anywhere. thanks for your help!

 2009/6/15 Major Péter majorpe...@sch.bme.hu
 mailto:majorpe...@sch.bme.hu

 If you're using the VM in NAT mode, then you can't reach the guest
 network device (or vice versa) by default with SSH or any other
 type of mode. Here is a tutorial to make the SSH working (host can
 access to the guest):
 
 http://jimmyg.org/blog/2008/ssh-to-a-debian-etch-virtual-machine-in-virtualbox.html

 Peter

 2009-06-15 22:51 keltezéssel, Yoram Halberstam írta:

 E At the risk of being shot I'll say that there a lot
 of smart
 and easy thing on linux compare to windows, installing
 virtualbox and
 running and general gui config are not one of them!

 Thanks also, I may not be a wizz kid but I do go on google (and I
 wouldn't be there if I found the answers)... anyway all of this to
 realise that I did configure everything from the GUI already
 (I think).
 I prefer GUI than command line ;-)

 So now I used host -only and I used bridge... both work, (I
 realised
 eth0 was disabled) - with vboxnet0 and eth1 respectively I can
 communicate back to the host but not into the virtualbox
 Suse Any
 hint sir? (I've tried ssh)



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All of that being said, what is the ip address of the hard nic (eth0?)
on the host machine (ifconfig eth0 on the host os), what is the ip
address of the guest machine's nic (ifconfig or ipconfig depending on
the os), can traceroute or tracert (again, depending on the os) from the
guest to the host ip and what is that route, can you resolve host names
on the guest (nslookup www.yahoo.com)?

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VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-15 Thread Yoram Halberstam
Hi,

I have Fedora 10 and installed the latest VirtualBox. In a virtual machine I
have Suse Linux. It doesn't managed to get an ip address through dhcp.

I know this a fedora list but maybe I could get some clues at how to
diagnose network problem on Linux (does it even see VirtualBox DHCP?)

Note: I've added the guest addition

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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-15 Thread Giuseppe Fuggiano
2009/6/15 Yoram Halberstam yoram.halbers...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 I have Fedora 10 and installed the latest VirtualBox. In a virtual machine I
 have Suse Linux. It doesn't managed to get an ip address through dhcp.

 I know this a fedora list but maybe I could get some clues at how to
 diagnose network problem on Linux (does it even see VirtualBox DHCP?)

 Note: I've added the guest addition

How is your VM network configured?  Try selecting bridge and then
the ethernet interface the host is using.

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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-15 Thread Yoram Halberstam
I've tried them all...

it says something like this:

eth0  device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 10)
eth0 Starting  DHCP4 client . . . . . . . . .
eth0 DHCP4 continues in backround
waiting
waiting for mandatory devices:   eth0 __NSC__
5 3 1
eth0 device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 10)
eth0  DHCP4 client (dhcpcd) is running
eth0  . . . but is still waiting for data
waiting
eth0  interface could not be set up until now
failedSetting up service (localfs) network . . . . . . . . failed

2009/6/15 Giuseppe Fuggiano giuseppe.fuggi...@gmail.com

 2009/6/15 Yoram Halberstam yoram.halbers...@gmail.com:
  Hi,
 
  I have Fedora 10 and installed the latest VirtualBox. In a virtual
 machine I
  have Suse Linux. It doesn't managed to get an ip address through dhcp.
 
  I know this a fedora list but maybe I could get some clues at how to
  diagnose network problem on Linux (does it even see VirtualBox DHCP?)
 
  Note: I've added the guest addition

 How is your VM network configured?  Try selecting bridge and then
 the ethernet interface the host is using.

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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-15 Thread Giuseppe Fuggiano
2009/6/15 Yoram Halberstam yoram.halbers...@gmail.com:
 I've tried them all...

 it says something like this:

 eth0  device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 10)
 eth0 Starting  DHCP4 client . . . . . . . . .
 eth0 DHCP4 continues in backround
 waiting
 waiting for mandatory devices:   eth0 __NSC__
 5 3 1
 eth0 device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 10)
 eth0  DHCP4 client (dhcpcd) is running
 eth0  . . . but is still waiting for data
 waiting
 eth0  interface could not be set up until now
 failedSetting up service (localfs) network . . . . . . . . failed

If I understood your issue, you should not try to get an ip address
within the guest machine until the host one is configured well.  I
suggest you to configure the host machine using a command like this:

VBoxManage modifyvm Name of your Machine --bridgeadapter1 eth0

where eth0 is the host interface you are using.  You also can manage
the network configuration using the GUI shipped with the package.  Let
me point you to the official user manual instructions:

http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#networkingdetails

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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-15 Thread Yoram Halberstam
Ok, here is when Linux loose me! NEver had to comand line anything on
Windows so thanks for hinting me toward the solution.

I've tried the command and got

[r...@desktop eclipse]# VBoxManage modifyvm desktop.lan --bridgeadapter1
eth0
VirtualBox Command Line Management Interface Version 2.2.4
(C) 2005-2009 Sun Microsystems, Inc.
All rights reserved.

ERROR: Could not find a registered machine named 'desktop.lan'
Details: code VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80bb0001), component VirtualBox,
interface IVirtualBox, callee nsISupports
Context: FindMachine(Bstr(a-argv[0]), machine.asOutParam()) at line 853
of file VBoxManageModifyVM.cpp

desktop.lan is what I get when I type hostname


2009/6/15 Giuseppe Fuggiano giuseppe.fuggi...@gmail.com

 2009/6/15 Yoram Halberstam yoram.halbers...@gmail.com:
  I've tried them all...
 
  it says something like this:
 
  eth0  device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev
 10)
  eth0 Starting  DHCP4 client . . . . . . . . .
  eth0 DHCP4 continues in backround
  waiting
  waiting for mandatory devices:   eth0 __NSC__
  5 3 1
  eth0 device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 10)
  eth0  DHCP4 client (dhcpcd) is running
  eth0  . . . but is still waiting for data
  waiting
  eth0  interface could not be set up until now
  failedSetting up service (localfs) network . . . . . . . . failed

 If I understood your issue, you should not try to get an ip address
 within the guest machine until the host one is configured well.  I
 suggest you to configure the host machine using a command like this:

 VBoxManage modifyvm Name of your Machine --bridgeadapter1 eth0

 where eth0 is the host interface you are using.  You also can manage
 the network configuration using the GUI shipped with the package.  Let
 me point you to the official user manual instructions:

 http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#networkingdetails

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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-15 Thread Yoram Halberstam
ok command line works... was still in root mode doh!

VBoxManage modifyvm Minimum Server --bridgeadapter1 eth0

network still doesn't work

PS: Question like this... Why use the command line if you configure it
already in the GUI?

2009/6/15 Yoram Halberstam yoram.halbers...@gmail.com

 Ok, here is when Linux loose me! NEver had to comand line anything on
 Windows so thanks for hinting me toward the solution.

 I've tried the command and got

 [r...@desktop eclipse]# VBoxManage modifyvm desktop.lan --bridgeadapter1
 eth0
 VirtualBox Command Line Management Interface Version 2.2.4
 (C) 2005-2009 Sun Microsystems, Inc.
 All rights reserved.

 ERROR: Could not find a registered machine named 'desktop.lan'
 Details: code VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80bb0001), component VirtualBox,
 interface IVirtualBox, callee nsISupports
 Context: FindMachine(Bstr(a-argv[0]), machine.asOutParam()) at line 853
 of file VBoxManageModifyVM.cpp

 desktop.lan is what I get when I type hostname


 2009/6/15 Giuseppe Fuggiano giuseppe.fuggi...@gmail.com

 2009/6/15 Yoram Halberstam yoram.halbers...@gmail.com:
  I've tried them all...
 
  it says something like this:
 
  eth0  device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev
 10)
  eth0 Starting  DHCP4 client . . . . . . . . .
  eth0 DHCP4 continues in backround
  waiting
  waiting for mandatory devices:   eth0 __NSC__
  5 3 1
  eth0 device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev
 10)
  eth0  DHCP4 client (dhcpcd) is running
  eth0  . . . but is still waiting for data
  waiting
  eth0  interface could not be set up until now
  failedSetting up service (localfs) network . . . . . . . . failed

 If I understood your issue, you should not try to get an ip address
 within the guest machine until the host one is configured well.  I
 suggest you to configure the host machine using a command like this:

 VBoxManage modifyvm Name of your Machine --bridgeadapter1 eth0

 where eth0 is the host interface you are using.  You also can manage
 the network configuration using the GUI shipped with the package.  Let
 me point you to the official user manual instructions:

 http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#networkingdetails

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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-15 Thread Giuseppe Fuggiano
2009/6/15 Yoram Halberstam yoram.halbers...@gmail.com:
 Ok, here is when Linux loose me! NEver had to comand line anything on
 Windows so thanks for hinting me toward the solution.

Command line permits you to control *every* aspect of your operating
system faster than you could searching, installing and learning to use
such buggy tools you find for Windows.

 I've tried the command and got

 [r...@desktop eclipse]# VBoxManage modifyvm desktop.lan --bridgeadapter1
 eth0
 VirtualBox Command Line Management Interface Version 2.2.4
 (C) 2005-2009 Sun Microsystems, Inc.
 All rights reserved.

 ERROR: Could not find a registered machine named 'desktop.lan'
 Details: code VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80bb0001), component VirtualBox,
 interface IVirtualBox, callee nsISupports
 Context: FindMachine(Bstr(a-argv[0]), machine.asOutParam()) at line 853
 of file VBoxManageModifyVM.cpp

 desktop.lan is what I get when I type hostname

Learn to use the man command to understand how to use commands.

man VBoxManage

You'll discover that you must specify the virtual machine NAME.  If
you called your virtual machine Suse or Suse 10 or whatever, you
have to use that name.

Type ifconfig command to discover the name of the ethernet interface
you are using.  Please look to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org), in
the Fedora wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki)
or simply to Google for terms or concepts you don't know or
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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-15 Thread Yoram Halberstam
E At the risk of being shot I'll say that there a lot of smart and
easy thing on linux compare to windows, installing virtualbox and running
and general gui config are not one of them!

Thanks also, I may not be a wizz kid but I do go on google (and I wouldn't
be there if I found the answers)... anyway all of this to realise that I did
configure everything from the GUI already (I think). I prefer GUI than
command line ;-)

So now I used host -only and I used bridge... both work, (I realised  eth0
was disabled) - with vboxnet0 and eth1 respectively I can communicate back
to the host but not into the virtualbox Suse Any hint sir? (I've tried
ssh)



2009/6/15 Giuseppe Fuggiano giuseppe.fuggi...@gmail.com

 2009/6/15 Yoram Halberstam yoram.halbers...@gmail.com:
  Ok, here is when Linux loose me! NEver had to comand line anything on
  Windows so thanks for hinting me toward the solution.

 Command line permits you to control *every* aspect of your operating
 system faster than you could searching, installing and learning to use
 such buggy tools you find for Windows.

  I've tried the command and got
 
  [r...@desktop eclipse]# VBoxManage modifyvm desktop.lan
 --bridgeadapter1
  eth0
  VirtualBox Command Line Management Interface Version 2.2.4
  (C) 2005-2009 Sun Microsystems, Inc.
  All rights reserved.
 
  ERROR: Could not find a registered machine named 'desktop.lan'
  Details: code VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80bb0001), component VirtualBox,
  interface IVirtualBox, callee nsISupports
  Context: FindMachine(Bstr(a-argv[0]), machine.asOutParam()) at line
 853
  of file VBoxManageModifyVM.cpp
 
  desktop.lan is what I get when I type hostname

 Learn to use the man command to understand how to use commands.

 man VBoxManage

 You'll discover that you must specify the virtual machine NAME.  If
 you called your virtual machine Suse or Suse 10 or whatever, you
 have to use that name.

 Type ifconfig command to discover the name of the ethernet interface
 you are using.  Please look to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org), in
 the Fedora wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki)
 or simply to Google for terms or concepts you don't know or
 understand.

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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-15 Thread Frank Murphy

On 15/06/09 21:51, Yoram Halberstam wrote:

E At the risk of being shot I'll say that there a lot of smart
and easy thing on linux compare to windows, installing virtualbox and
running and general gui config are not one of them!


Maybe the virt list might be able to shed more light on your issue?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization

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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-15 Thread Yoram Halberstam
How can kvm, xen, qemu and other help me? I know fedora has a lot of open
source for virtualization but I want to use virtual box as I have the images
ready, I know it, it's easy, and I find it more user friendly (some people
says it's faster too).

Any other suggestion?

2009/6/15 Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com

 On 15/06/09 21:51, Yoram Halberstam wrote:

 E At the risk of being shot I'll say that there a lot of smart
 and easy thing on linux compare to windows, installing virtualbox and
 running and general gui config are not one of them!


 Maybe the virt list might be able to shed more light on your issue?

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization

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Re: VirtualBox, Linux, ethernet question...

2009-06-15 Thread Major Péter
If you're using the VM in NAT mode, then you can't reach the guest 
network device (or vice versa) by default with SSH or any other type of 
mode. Here is a tutorial to make the SSH working (host can access to the 
guest):

http://jimmyg.org/blog/2008/ssh-to-a-debian-etch-virtual-machine-in-virtualbox.html

Peter

2009-06-15 22:51 keltezéssel, Yoram Halberstam írta:

E At the risk of being shot I'll say that there a lot of smart
and easy thing on linux compare to windows, installing virtualbox and
running and general gui config are not one of them!

Thanks also, I may not be a wizz kid but I do go on google (and I
wouldn't be there if I found the answers)... anyway all of this to
realise that I did configure everything from the GUI already (I think).
I prefer GUI than command line ;-)

So now I used host -only and I used bridge... both work, (I realised
eth0 was disabled) - with vboxnet0 and eth1 respectively I can
communicate back to the host but not into the virtualbox Suse Any
hint sir? (I've tried ssh)



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