Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-04 Thread Bob Goodwin


   I am still struggling with this f10 install. It appeared that the
   NIC in eth0 was no good. I pulled it out and left the second card
   which was/is eth1.

   It looks to me like that designation eth1 might be changed to eth0
   using ethtool but if so, I can't find the right command.

   I have used service-config-network to set it up as 192.168.1.10 and
   eth1, network-scripts is set up for eth1. but no matter what I do a
   ping to another computer yields "Network is unreachable."

   This is a wired connection. I've tried a different cat5 cable.
   "ethtools eth1" looks ok compared to the other computers. Not sure
   what I have missed but it would be simpler perhaps if I could
   convince the NIC that it was eth0 instead of eth1 but I can't
   determine how that is set.

   Any help appreciated. I am about at wits end.

   Bob

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Re: Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-04 Thread Mike Burger

>
> I am still struggling with this f10 install. It appeared that the
> NIC in eth0 was no good. I pulled it out and left the second card
> which was/is eth1.
>
> It looks to me like that designation eth1 might be changed to eth0
> using ethtool but if so, I can't find the right command.
>
> I have used service-config-network to set it up as 192.168.1.10 and
> eth1, network-scripts is set up for eth1. but no matter what I do a
> ping to another computer yields "Network is unreachable."
>
> This is a wired connection. I've tried a different cat5 cable.
> "ethtools eth1" looks ok compared to the other computers. Not sure
> what I have missed but it would be simpler perhaps if I could
> convince the NIC that it was eth0 instead of eth1 but I can't
> determine how that is set.
>
> Any help appreciated. I am about at wits end.

Actually, it's probably in your /etc/modprobe.conf file.


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Re: Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-04 Thread Bob Goodwin

Mike Burger wrote:

I am still struggling with this f10 install. It appeared that the
NIC in eth0 was no good. I pulled it out and left the second card
which was/is eth1.

It looks to me like that designation eth1 might be changed to eth0
using ethtool but if so, I can't find the right command.

I have used service-config-network to set it up as 192.168.1.10 and
eth1, network-scripts is set up for eth1. but no matter what I do a
ping to another computer yields "Network is unreachable."

This is a wired connection. I've tried a different cat5 cable.
"ethtools eth1" looks ok compared to the other computers. Not sure
what I have missed but it would be simpler perhaps if I could
convince the NIC that it was eth0 instead of eth1 but I can't
determine how that is set.

Any help appreciated. I am about at wits end.



Actually, it's probably in your /etc/modprobe.conf file.


  


   /etc/modprobe.conf is an empty file? 
   Do I need to use it to change the eth designation? Don't know how

   but ...

   Bob


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Re: Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-04 Thread Mike Burger

> Mike Burger wrote:
>>> I am still struggling with this f10 install. It appeared that the
>>> NIC in eth0 was no good. I pulled it out and left the second card
>>> which was/is eth1.
>>>
>>> It looks to me like that designation eth1 might be changed to eth0
>>> using ethtool but if so, I can't find the right command.
>>>
>>> I have used service-config-network to set it up as 192.168.1.10 and
>>> eth1, network-scripts is set up for eth1. but no matter what I do a
>>> ping to another computer yields "Network is unreachable."
>>>
>>> This is a wired connection. I've tried a different cat5 cable.
>>> "ethtools eth1" looks ok compared to the other computers. Not sure
>>> what I have missed but it would be simpler perhaps if I could
>>> convince the NIC that it was eth0 instead of eth1 but I can't
>>> determine how that is set.
>>>
>>> Any help appreciated. I am about at wits end.
>>>
>>
>> Actually, it's probably in your /etc/modprobe.conf file.
>>
>>
>>
>
> /etc/modprobe.conf is an empty file?
> Do I need to use it to change the eth designation? Don't know how
> but ...

Used to...it's possible that it's being done via udev, at this point. 
Lemme look around at ethtool and udev info.

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Re: Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-04 Thread Mike Burger

>
>> Mike Burger wrote:
 I am still struggling with this f10 install. It appeared that the
 NIC in eth0 was no good. I pulled it out and left the second card
 which was/is eth1.

 It looks to me like that designation eth1 might be changed to eth0
 using ethtool but if so, I can't find the right command.

 I have used service-config-network to set it up as 192.168.1.10
 and
 eth1, network-scripts is set up for eth1. but no matter what I do
 a
 ping to another computer yields "Network is unreachable."

 This is a wired connection. I've tried a different cat5 cable.
 "ethtools eth1" looks ok compared to the other computers. Not sure
 what I have missed but it would be simpler perhaps if I could
 convince the NIC that it was eth0 instead of eth1 but I can't
 determine how that is set.

 Any help appreciated. I am about at wits end.

>>>
>>> Actually, it's probably in your /etc/modprobe.conf file.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> /etc/modprobe.conf is an empty file?
>> Do I need to use it to change the eth designation? Don't know how
>> but ...
>
> Used to...it's possible that it's being done via udev, at this point.
> Lemme look around at ethtool and udev info.
Did a little googling of "udev eth designation" and found this:

http://www.mepis.org/node/10770

The short of it is to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.

You can remove the line for eth0, then take the line for eth1, and as long
as the "ATTR{address}" line matches the MAC address of your current eth1
NIC, just change:

NAME="eth1"

to

NAME=eth0"

Reboot, and voila!!!

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Re: Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-04 Thread Bob Goodwin

Mike Burger wrote:

Mike Burger wrote:


Actually, it's probably in your /etc/modprobe.conf file.



  

/etc/modprobe.conf is an empty file?
Do I need to use it to change the eth designation? Don't know how
but ...



Used to...it's possible that it's being done via udev, at this point. 
Lemme look around at ethtool and udev info.


  
From the way it acts it seems to be stored in the NIC card itself, an 
nvrom or some such?


Bob

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Re: Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-04 Thread Bob Goodwin

Mike Burger wrote:

Mike Burger wrote:
  

I am still struggling with this f10 install. It appeared that the
NIC in eth0 was no good. I pulled it out and left the second card
which was/is eth1.

It looks to me like that designation eth1 might be changed to eth0
using ethtool but if so, I can't find the right command.

I have used service-config-network to set it up as 192.168.1.10
and
eth1, network-scripts is set up for eth1. but no matter what I do
a
ping to another computer yields "Network is unreachable."

This is a wired connection. I've tried a different cat5 cable.
"ethtools eth1" looks ok compared to the other computers. Not sure
what I have missed but it would be simpler perhaps if I could
convince the NIC that it was eth0 instead of eth1 but I can't
determine how that is set.

Any help appreciated. I am about at wits end.

  

Actually, it's probably in your /etc/modprobe.conf file.





/etc/modprobe.conf is an empty file?
Do I need to use it to change the eth designation? Don't know how
but ...
  

Used to...it's possible that it's being done via udev, at this point.
Lemme look around at ethtool and udev info.


Did a little googling of "udev eth designation" and found this:

http://www.mepis.org/node/10770

The short of it is to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.

You can remove the line for eth0, then take the line for eth1, and as long
as the "ATTR{address}" line matches the MAC address of your current eth1
NIC, just change:

NAME="eth1"

to

NAME=eth0"

Reboot, and voila!!!

  


   You are correct, I had considered it might be tied to a MAC address!
   But I never would have found that file without your help.

   Now I have to fix the rest of the network config stuff.

   Thanks much.

   Bob


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Re: Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-04 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Mike Burger wrote:
>> I am still struggling with this f10 install. It appeared that the
>> NIC in eth0 was no good. I pulled it out and left the second card
>> which was/is eth1.
>>
>> It looks to me like that designation eth1 might be changed to eth0
>> using ethtool but if so, I can't find the right command.
>>
>> I have used service-config-network to set it up as 192.168.1.10 and
>> eth1, network-scripts is set up for eth1. but no matter what I do a
>> ping to another computer yields "Network is unreachable."
>>
>> This is a wired connection. I've tried a different cat5 cable.
>> "ethtools eth1" looks ok compared to the other computers. Not sure
>> what I have missed but it would be simpler perhaps if I could
>> convince the NIC that it was eth0 instead of eth1 but I can't
>> determine how that is set.
>>
>> Any help appreciated. I am about at wits end.
> 
> Actually, it's probably in your /etc/modprobe.conf file.
> 
It can be, but /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules tends to be
more important - it maps the MAC address to the device name. Then
you may also have the HWADDR= option in your
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg=eth? file. That will provent
the interface from coming up if the MAC address of the NIC does not
match.

You can edit the 70-persistent-net.rules file, or you can delete it
if you want to renumber the NICs. It will be re-created for you the
next time you boot. Change the HWADDR= value requires you do edit
the ifcfg-eth? file. (Hand edit or GUI.)

Mikkel
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Re: Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-04 Thread Bob Goodwin

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

It can be, but /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules tends to be
more important - it maps the MAC address to the device name. Then
you may also have the HWADDR= option in your
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg=eth? file. That will provent
the interface from coming up if the MAC address of the NIC does not
match.

You can edit the 70-persistent-net.rules file, or you can delete it
if you want to renumber the NICs. It will be re-created for you the
next time you boot. Change the HWADDR= value requires you do edit
the ifcfg-eth? file. (Hand edit or GUI.)

Mikkel
  


   After making the udev change I rebooted and it complained of a file
   system error and requested fsck. It's churning through that now.
   This is an old computer that I probably shouldn't even be fooling
   with but I thought it might do some good and I might learn a few
   things in the process. The latter part is true at least!

   Thanks.

   Bob

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Re: Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-04 Thread Bob Goodwin

Bob Goodwin wrote:

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

It can be, but /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules tends to be
more important - it maps the MAC address to the device name. Then
you may also have the HWADDR= option in your
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg=eth? file. That will provent
the interface from coming up if the MAC address of the NIC does not
match.

You can edit the 70-persistent-net.rules file, or you can delete it
if you want to renumber the NICs. It will be re-created for you the
next time you boot. Change the HWADDR= value requires you do edit
the ifcfg-eth? file. (Hand edit or GUI.)

Mikkel
  


   After making the udev change I rebooted and it complained of a file
   system error and requested fsck. It's churning through that now.
   This is an old computer that I probably shouldn't even be fooling
   with but I thought it might do some good and I might learn a few
   things in the process. The latter part is true at least!

   Thanks.

   Bob



   The fsck looked like it would never finish. I quit and did another
   reinstall from the livecd. This time eth0 came up right and I did
   the routine things to make the network connection for 192.168.1.10
   and it is happily running a yum update at last!

   Thanks all for the assistance.

   Bob


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Re: Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-06 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 16:02 -0400, Mike Burger wrote:
> You can remove the line for eth0, then take the line for eth1, and as long
> as the "ATTR{address}" line matches the MAC address of your current eth1
> NIC, just change:
> 
> NAME="eth1"
> 
> to
> 
> NAME=eth0"
> 
> Reboot, and voila!!!

Is there a way to have the udev changes read by the kernel and other OS
bits without having to reboot the box?

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Re: Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 16:02 -0400, Mike Burger wrote:
>> You can remove the line for eth0, then take the line for eth1, and as long
>> as the "ATTR{address}" line matches the MAC address of your current eth1
>> NIC, just change:
>>
>> NAME="eth1"
>>
>> to
>>
>> NAME=eth0"
>>
>> Reboot, and voila!!!
> 
> Is there a way to have the udev changes read by the kernel and other OS
> bits without having to reboot the box?
> 
You can try "udevadm control --reload_rules" - this will tell udevd
about the rule changes. You will probably have to remove and
re-install the NIC module for the change to take affect. You will
have to bring down eth1 before removing the module, and you will
want to bring up eth0 after re-installing it.

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Re: Where is eth0/eth1/assigned -

2009-06-20 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Sat, 2009-06-06 at 08:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: 
> You can try "udevadm control --reload_rules" - this will tell udevd
> about the rule changes. You will probably have to remove and
> re-install the NIC module for the change to take affect. You will
> have to bring down eth1 before removing the module, and you will
> want to bring up eth0 after re-installing it.

Worked! Here's what I did:

1. stopped the network
2. unloaded both NICs' modules
3. made my changes to "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules"
3. reloaded the udev rules
4. loaded the NIC modules
5. restarted the network

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