Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Dan Track]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Steve Repo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
 Any reason why it has to be ATI ? Nvidia make cards too ...
>>>
>>> Well, yes, but while native x.org/mesa support for ATI is growing, since
>>> ATI is opening up their hardware to the free software community, for the
>>> foreseeable future you will always need Nvidia's binary blobs, to drive
>>> their hardware. ATI should be supported for their decision to support
>>> the free software community, and Nvidia should be boycotted.
>>>
>
>
> Amen!
>


Thanks everyone for your replies. I've orderd the ATI x1600 card now
so let's see what happens. BTW do you recklon fglrx will be fixed soon
for xorg 1.5?

Thanks
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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Steve Repo]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> Any reason why it has to be ATI ? Nvidia make cards too ...
>>
>> Well, yes, but while native x.org/mesa support for ATI is growing, since
>> ATI is opening up their hardware to the free software community, for the
>> foreseeable future you will always need Nvidia's binary blobs, to drive
>> their hardware. ATI should be supported for their decision to support
>> the free software community, and Nvidia should be boycotted.
>>


Amen!

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Chris Jones]

>> Any reason why it has to be ATI ? Nvidia make cards too ...
> 
> Well, yes, but while native x.org/mesa support for ATI is growing, since
> ATI is opening up their hardware to the free software community, for the
> foreseeable future you will always need Nvidia's binary blobs, to drive
> their hardware. ATI should be supported for their decision to support
> the free software community, and Nvidia should be boycotted.
>

Fair point.



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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Steve Repo]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Ed Greshko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kevin Martin wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>
>>> Kevin Martin wrote:


 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:50:36 -0400,
>  Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I have an RV280 radeon card, no 3d, and not expected to ever be.
>>
>
> I have a 9200 which is rv280 based and it has 3d support in Fedora. I
> have
> played Neverwinter Nights with it (though not recently) under Fedora
> with the native NWN client using the open source radeon driver.
>
> The card is a bit dated now, but it does have the advantage of not
> needing
> its own fan.
>
>

 FWIW, I've got an x1600 running on my Acer laptop and have NEVER been
 able to get compiz to work correctly (either using the fglrx or the
 proprietary ATI drivers).  This is with F8.
>>>
>>> Yeah, but, FWIW, it may not be valid to compare laptop chipsets with
>>> chipsets in PCIe/AGP cards.
>>>
>>>
>> I mentioned my chip primarily to highlight that the x1600 laptop chipset
>> (at least in my case) didn't work with Compiz as opposed to the posting by
>> Steve Repo about his x1400 working in a Dell laptop.
>
> Understand...  Just didn't want to confuse the OP looking for a card for his
> desktop.
>

I'm running radeonhd from updates-testing.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep GLX
(==) AIGLX enabled
(==) Exporting typical set of GLX visuals
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
(II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
(II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib64/dri/swrast_dri.so
(II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep radeonhd
(II) LoadModule: "radeonhd"
(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//radeonhd_drv.so
(II) Module radeonhd: vendor="AMD GPG"
Fedora package xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd-1.2.1-3.7.20080724git.fc9

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Kevin J. Cummings]

Kevin Martin wrote:



Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

Kevin Martin wrote:
FWIW, I've got an x1600 running on my Acer laptop and have NEVER been 
able to get compiz to work correctly (either using the fglrx or the 
proprietary ATI drivers).  This is with F8.


My laptop has a Mobility Radeon x1600.  According to the chipset 
mappings, this is an M56 chipset (not an Rxxx) and is only supported 
by radeonhd.  I used to use fglrx with this chipset on FC6.i386, but 
since I upgraded to F9.x86_64 the only driver that works for me is the 
radeon driver.  According to the man files, this is backwards and only 
radeonhd should work for me.


One minor problem I have with this chipset is that while X is running, 
the virtual consoles are illegible.  They work, but I cannot see the 
text legibly when I type in one, so unless I remember which user is 
logged in on which console, they are not useful.  If I kill the X 
server, they become legible again.  Strange.  I never had this problem 
using the fglrx driver on FC6.



Kevin


I use the fglrx drivers with this "card", but not with Compiz.  I have 
not tried the radeon(hd) drivers to see if I get different results.  I 
had been downloading and installing the ATI proprietary drivers that the 
ATI website said worked with this card.  Are the radeon(hd) drivers on 
the ATI website or are they built/hosted somewhere else?


You can get xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd through yum in updates.

If you are going to continue with fglrx, then stay with F8 for a while, 
as fglrx is broken with F9.  It does not yet support Xorg 1.5.



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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Ed Greshko]

Kevin Martin wrote:



Ed Greshko wrote:

Kevin Martin wrote:



Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:50:36 -0400,
  Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

I have an RV280 radeon card, no 3d, and not expected to ever be.



I have a 9200 which is rv280 based and it has 3d support in Fedora. 
I have

played Neverwinter Nights with it (though not recently) under Fedora
with the native NWN client using the open source radeon driver.

The card is a bit dated now, but it does have the advantage of not 
needing

its own fan.

  
FWIW, I've got an x1600 running on my Acer laptop and have NEVER been 
able to get compiz to work correctly (either using the fglrx or the 
proprietary ATI drivers).  This is with F8.


Yeah, but, FWIW, it may not be valid to compare laptop chipsets with 
chipsets in PCIe/AGP cards.



I mentioned my chip primarily to highlight that the x1600 laptop chipset 
(at least in my case) didn't work with Compiz as opposed to the posting 
by Steve Repo about his x1400 working in a Dell laptop.


Understand...  Just didn't want to confuse the OP looking for a card for his 
desktop.


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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Kevin Martin]

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

Kevin Martin wrote:
FWIW, I've got an x1600 running on my Acer laptop and have NEVER been 
able to get compiz to work correctly (either using the fglrx or the 
proprietary ATI drivers).  This is with F8.


My laptop has a Mobility Radeon x1600.  According to the chipset 
mappings, this is an M56 chipset (not an Rxxx) and is only supported 
by radeonhd.  I used to use fglrx with this chipset on FC6.i386, but 
since I upgraded to F9.x86_64 the only driver that works for me is the 
radeon driver.  According to the man files, this is backwards and only 
radeonhd should work for me.


One minor problem I have with this chipset is that while X is running, 
the virtual consoles are illegible.  They work, but I cannot see the 
text legibly when I type in one, so unless I remember which user is 
logged in on which console, they are not useful.  If I kill the X 
server, they become legible again.  Strange.  I never had this problem 
using the fglrx driver on FC6.



Kevin


I use the fglrx drivers with this "card", but not with Compiz.  I have 
not tried the radeon(hd) drivers to see if I get different results.  I 
had been downloading and installing the ATI proprietary drivers that the 
ATI website said worked with this card.  Are the radeon(hd) drivers on 
the ATI website or are they built/hosted somewhere else?


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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Kevin Martin]

Ed Greshko wrote:

Kevin Martin wrote:



Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:50:36 -0400,
  Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

I have an RV280 radeon card, no 3d, and not expected to ever be.



I have a 9200 which is rv280 based and it has 3d support in Fedora. 
I have

played Neverwinter Nights with it (though not recently) under Fedora
with the native NWN client using the open source radeon driver.

The card is a bit dated now, but it does have the advantage of not 
needing

its own fan.

  
FWIW, I've got an x1600 running on my Acer laptop and have NEVER been 
able to get compiz to work correctly (either using the fglrx or the 
proprietary ATI drivers).  This is with F8.


Yeah, but, FWIW, it may not be valid to compare laptop chipsets with 
chipsets in PCIe/AGP cards.



I mentioned my chip primarily to highlight that the x1600 laptop chipset 
(at least in my case) didn't work with Compiz as opposed to the posting 
by Steve Repo about his x1400 working in a Dell laptop.


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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Kevin J. Cummings]

Kevin Martin wrote:
FWIW, I've got an x1600 running on my Acer laptop and have NEVER been 
able to get compiz to work correctly (either using the fglrx or the 
proprietary ATI drivers).  This is with F8.


My laptop has a Mobility Radeon x1600.  According to the chipset 
mappings, this is an M56 chipset (not an Rxxx) and is only supported by 
radeonhd.  I used to use fglrx with this chipset on FC6.i386, but since 
I upgraded to F9.x86_64 the only driver that works for me is the radeon 
driver.  According to the man files, this is backwards and only radeonhd 
should work for me.


One minor problem I have with this chipset is that while X is running, 
the virtual consoles are illegible.  They work, but I cannot see the 
text legibly when I type in one, so unless I remember which user is 
logged in on which console, they are not useful.  If I kill the X 
server, they become legible again.  Strange.  I never had this problem 
using the fglrx driver on FC6.



Kevin


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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Ed Greshko]

Kevin Martin wrote:



Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:50:36 -0400,
  Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

I have an RV280 radeon card, no 3d, and not expected to ever be.



I have a 9200 which is rv280 based and it has 3d support in Fedora. I 
have

played Neverwinter Nights with it (though not recently) under Fedora
with the native NWN client using the open source radeon driver.

The card is a bit dated now, but it does have the advantage of not 
needing

its own fan.

  
FWIW, I've got an x1600 running on my Acer laptop and have NEVER been 
able to get compiz to work correctly (either using the fglrx or the 
proprietary ATI drivers).  This is with F8.


Yeah, but, FWIW, it may not be valid to compare laptop chipsets with 
chipsets in PCIe/AGP cards.


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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Kevin Martin]

Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:50:36 -0400,
  Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

I have an RV280 radeon card, no 3d, and not expected to ever be.



I have a 9200 which is rv280 based and it has 3d support in Fedora. I have
played Neverwinter Nights with it (though not recently) under Fedora
with the native NWN client using the open source radeon driver.

The card is a bit dated now, but it does have the advantage of not needing
its own fan.

  
FWIW, I've got an x1600 running on my Acer laptop and have NEVER been 
able to get compiz to work correctly (either using the fglrx or the 
proprietary ATI drivers).  This is with F8.


Kevin

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:50:36 -0400,
  Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have an RV280 radeon card, no 3d, and not expected to ever be.

I have a 9200 which is rv280 based and it has 3d support in Fedora. I have
played Neverwinter Nights with it (though not recently) under Fedora
with the native NWN client using the open source radeon driver.

The card is a bit dated now, but it does have the advantage of not needing
its own fan.

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Steve Repo]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Matthew Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:50:36AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> >That's an R500 chipset. It'll work in 2d now, and 3D (and with compiz) in
>> >the future. If you need 3D now, you need a much older card -- R200 or R300
>> >chipset. Look at the man page for "radeon" for product name-to-chipset
>> >matching.
>> I have an RV280 radeon card, no 3d, and not expected to ever be.
>
> Yeah, it has to be specifically R200: Radeon 8500, 9100, FireGL 8800/8700.
>
> And, uh, I think I was wrong about R300 and 3D.
>
>

I have an x1400 on my Dell laptop, I have compiz running just fine
with ati and radeonhd drivers.

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:50:36AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >That's an R500 chipset. It'll work in 2d now, and 3D (and with compiz) in
> >the future. If you need 3D now, you need a much older card -- R200 or R300
> >chipset. Look at the man page for "radeon" for product name-to-chipset
> >matching.
> I have an RV280 radeon card, no 3d, and not expected to ever be.

Yeah, it has to be specifically R200: Radeon 8500, 9100, FireGL 8800/8700.

And, uh, I think I was wrong about R300 and 3D.

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 10:00 +0100, Dan Track wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm looking for an ATI card for my work pc, doesn't do much apart from
> browsing and use for remote server management, which card should I
> buy? I need to make a decision in the next hour or so.
> 
> I'd like it to be able to handle the compiz stuff aswell.

Probably too late, but do you actually need a card? My onboard video
(Intel 965) works fine with compiz.

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 20 August 2008, Chris Jones wrote:
>> That's an R500 chipset. It'll work in 2d now, and 3D (and with compiz) in
>> the future. If you need 3D now, you need a much older card -- R200 or R300
>> chipset. Look at the man page for "radeon" for product name-to-chipset
>> matching.
>
>Any reason why it has to be ATI ? Nvidia make cards too ...

And they scribble all over memory they don't own when using the nvidia 
drivers.  nv is stable, but slow.  vesa also works well but slow.

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 20 August 2008, Matthew Miller wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:24:47AM +0100, Dan Track wrote:
>> Thanks for that. My supplier said he can't get that card but he said
>> he can get the Saphirre Radeon x1650 Pro 512MB DDR2 AGP VGA DVI TV,
>> would you know if that's supported and would work well with fedora 9
>> and compiz?
>
>That's an R500 chipset. It'll work in 2d now, and 3D (and with compiz) in
>the future. If you need 3D now, you need a much older card -- R200 or R300
>chipset. Look at the man page for "radeon" for product name-to-chipset
>matching.
>
I have an RV280 radeon card, no 3d, and not expected to ever be.

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 20 August 2008, Dan Track wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Steve Repo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Ed Greshko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Dan Track wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm looking for an ATI card for my work pc, doesn't do much apart
>>> from browsing and use for remote server management, which card should
>>> I buy? I need to make a decision in the next hour or so.
>>>
>>> I'd like it to be able to handle the compiz stuff aswell.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dan
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'd just like to add that I need a PCI card not PCI-e.
>
> Have you gone to the ATI website and checked on what is available in
> PCI? Your choices seem limitedat least from a US perspective.  I
> guess I'm surprised your system doesn't have an AGP slot.

 Hi

 Thanks for the reply, I do have an agp slot so thats an option aswell.
 Any thoughts on a card selection?

 Thanks
 Dan
>>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> Do you think the ATI x1300 pro would work ok?
>>>
>>> T
>>
>> Yes and very well supported by open source drivers including compiz
>
>Hi
>
>Thanks for that. My supplier said he can't get that card but he said
>he can get the Saphirre Radeon x1650 Pro 512MB DDR2 AGP VGA DVI TV,
>would you know if that's supported and would work well with fedora 9
>and compiz?
>

If you can get it to post.  I bought the AGP version, and while it posts and 
works very well on an intel mobo, it won't even post on my biostar.

>Thanks
>Dan



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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Sam Varshavchik]

Chris Jones writes:




That's an R500 chipset. It'll work in 2d now, and 3D (and with compiz) in
the future. If you need 3D now, you need a much older card -- R200 or R300
chipset. Look at the man page for "radeon" for product name-to-chipset
matching.


Any reason why it has to be ATI ? Nvidia make cards too ...


Well, yes, but while native x.org/mesa support for ATI is growing, since ATI 
is opening up their hardware to the free software community, for the 
foreseeable future you will always need Nvidia's binary blobs, to drive 
their hardware. ATI should be supported for their decision to support the 
free software community, and Nvidia should be boycotted.




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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Sam Varshavchik]

Dan Track writes:


On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Matthew Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:24:47AM +0100, Dan Track wrote:

Thanks for that. My supplier said he can't get that card but he said
he can get the Saphirre Radeon x1650 Pro 512MB DDR2 AGP VGA DVI TV,
would you know if that's supported and would work well with fedora 9
and compiz?


That's an R500 chipset. It'll work in 2d now, and 3D (and with compiz) in
the future. If you need 3D now, you need a much older card -- R200 or R300
chipset. Look at the man page for "radeon" for product name-to-chipset
matching.



Great thanks for that. From what you said does that mean I can't run
compiz on fedora 9?


That's what he said.




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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Dan Track]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Matthew Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:24:47AM +0100, Dan Track wrote:
>> Thanks for that. My supplier said he can't get that card but he said
>> he can get the Saphirre Radeon x1650 Pro 512MB DDR2 AGP VGA DVI TV,
>> would you know if that's supported and would work well with fedora 9
>> and compiz?
>
> That's an R500 chipset. It'll work in 2d now, and 3D (and with compiz) in
> the future. If you need 3D now, you need a much older card -- R200 or R300
> chipset. Look at the man page for "radeon" for product name-to-chipset
> matching.
>

Great thanks for that. From what you said does that mean I can't run
compiz on fedora 9?

Thanks
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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Chris Jones]

> That's an R500 chipset. It'll work in 2d now, and 3D (and with compiz) in
> the future. If you need 3D now, you need a much older card -- R200 or R300
> chipset. Look at the man page for "radeon" for product name-to-chipset
> matching.

Any reason why it has to be ATI ? Nvidia make cards too ...

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Patrick]

Dan Track wrote:
[snip]

Guys,

Do you think the ATI x1300 pro would work ok?


I have an X1300 in my laptop and it works fine with the open source ati 
driver included in F9. I just use 2D (text, browsing, email) and no 3D 
(games, compiz, etc). If you want to run compiz than you may have to use 
the proprietary ati driver (fglrx). Afaik the only place to get support 
for this proprietary driver is http://www.phoronix.com/forums/


Regards,
Patrick

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:24:47AM +0100, Dan Track wrote:
> Thanks for that. My supplier said he can't get that card but he said
> he can get the Saphirre Radeon x1650 Pro 512MB DDR2 AGP VGA DVI TV,
> would you know if that's supported and would work well with fedora 9
> and compiz?

That's an R500 chipset. It'll work in 2d now, and 3D (and with compiz) in
the future. If you need 3D now, you need a much older card -- R200 or R300
chipset. Look at the man page for "radeon" for product name-to-chipset
matching.

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Dan Track]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Steve Repo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Ed Greshko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Dan Track wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm looking for an ATI card for my work pc, doesn't do much apart from
>> browsing and use for remote server management, which card should I
>> buy? I need to make a decision in the next hour or so.
>>
>> I'd like it to be able to handle the compiz stuff aswell.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dan
>>
>
> Hi
>
> I'd just like to add that I need a PCI card not PCI-e.

 Have you gone to the ATI website and checked on what is available in PCI?
 Your choices seem limitedat least from a US perspective.  I guess I'm
 surprised your system doesn't have an AGP slot.

>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply, I do have an agp slot so thats an option aswell.
>>> Any thoughts on a card selection?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dan
>>>
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> Do you think the ATI x1300 pro would work ok?
>>
>> T
>
> Yes and very well supported by open source drivers including compiz


Hi

Thanks for that. My supplier said he can't get that card but he said
he can get the Saphirre Radeon x1650 Pro 512MB DDR2 AGP VGA DVI TV,
would you know if that's supported and would work well with fedora 9
and compiz?

Thanks
Dan

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Steve Repo]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Ed Greshko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Dan Track wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I'm looking for an ATI card for my work pc, doesn't do much apart from
> browsing and use for remote server management, which card should I
> buy? I need to make a decision in the next hour or so.
>
> I'd like it to be able to handle the compiz stuff aswell.
>
> Thanks
> Dan
>

 Hi

 I'd just like to add that I need a PCI card not PCI-e.
>>>
>>> Have you gone to the ATI website and checked on what is available in PCI?
>>> Your choices seem limitedat least from a US perspective.  I guess I'm
>>> surprised your system doesn't have an AGP slot.
>>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Thanks for the reply, I do have an agp slot so thats an option aswell.
>> Any thoughts on a card selection?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dan
>>
>
> Guys,
>
> Do you think the ATI x1300 pro would work ok?
>
> T

Yes and very well supported by open source drivers including compiz

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Dan Track]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Ed Greshko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Dan Track wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Hi

 I'm looking for an ATI card for my work pc, doesn't do much apart from
 browsing and use for remote server management, which card should I
 buy? I need to make a decision in the next hour or so.

 I'd like it to be able to handle the compiz stuff aswell.

 Thanks
 Dan

>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'd just like to add that I need a PCI card not PCI-e.
>>
>> Have you gone to the ATI website and checked on what is available in PCI?
>> Your choices seem limitedat least from a US perspective.  I guess I'm
>> surprised your system doesn't have an AGP slot.
>>
>
> Hi
>
> Thanks for the reply, I do have an agp slot so thats an option aswell.
> Any thoughts on a card selection?
>
> Thanks
> Dan
>

Guys,

Do you think the ATI x1300 pro would work ok?

Thanks
Dan

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Dan Track]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Ed Greshko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan Track wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm looking for an ATI card for my work pc, doesn't do much apart from
>>> browsing and use for remote server management, which card should I
>>> buy? I need to make a decision in the next hour or so.
>>>
>>> I'd like it to be able to handle the compiz stuff aswell.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dan
>>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'd just like to add that I need a PCI card not PCI-e.
>
> Have you gone to the ATI website and checked on what is available in PCI?
> Your choices seem limitedat least from a US perspective.  I guess I'm
> surprised your system doesn't have an AGP slot.
>

Hi

Thanks for the reply, I do have an agp slot so thats an option aswell.
Any thoughts on a card selection?

Thanks
Dan

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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Ed Greshko]

Dan Track wrote:

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi

I'm looking for an ATI card for my work pc, doesn't do much apart from
browsing and use for remote server management, which card should I
buy? I need to make a decision in the next hour or so.

I'd like it to be able to handle the compiz stuff aswell.

Thanks
Dan



Hi

I'd just like to add that I need a PCI card not PCI-e.


Have you gone to the ATI website and checked on what is available in PCI? 
Your choices seem limitedat least from a US perspective.  I guess I'm 
surprised your system doesn't have an AGP slot.


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Re: Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Dan Track]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm looking for an ATI card for my work pc, doesn't do much apart from
> browsing and use for remote server management, which card should I
> buy? I need to make a decision in the next hour or so.
>
> I'd like it to be able to handle the compiz stuff aswell.
>
> Thanks
> Dan
>

Hi

I'd just like to add that I need a PCI card not PCI-e.

Dan

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Which ATI graphics card shall I choose for fedora/rhel

[Dan Track]

Hi

I'm looking for an ATI card for my work pc, doesn't do much apart from
browsing and use for remote server management, which card should I
buy? I need to make a decision in the next hour or so.

I'd like it to be able to handle the compiz stuff aswell.

Thanks
Dan

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