Re: anyone install android 2.0 sdk on 64-bit fedora?

2009-11-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth

On 10/27/2009 01:52 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

   given the first release of android 2.0, has anyone out there
successfully installed that on a 64-bit fedora?  specifically, fedora
11 or (hopefully equivalently) fedora 12 beta.

   


I have the emulator running. I have not compiled any applications yet 
though.


Fedora 11 x86_64 machine. I do not have Sun Java installed.


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Re: anyone install android 2.0 sdk on 64-bit fedora?

2009-11-07 Thread Mike Wohlgemuth

On 11/07/2009 12:26 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:

On 10/27/2009 01:52 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

   given the first release of android 2.0, has anyone out there
successfully installed that on a 64-bit fedora?  specifically, fedora
11 or (hopefully equivalently) fedora 12 beta.



I have the emulator running. I have not compiled any applications yet 
though.


Fedora 11 x86_64 machine. I do not have Sun Java installed.

I've just used Fedora Eclipse to compile and run a Hello World in the 
emulator.  2 things:


I had to enable more than the default update sites in Eclipse.  I don't 
recall what the default actually is, but I have the following now:


   * Fedora Eclipse JDT
   * Fedora Eclipse SDK
   * Ganymede Update Site
   * The Eclipse Project Updates

Configure the emulator for an SD card of at least 16 MB or you will get 
an inscrutable error trying to start it.


Woogie

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Re: anyone install android 2.0 sdk on 64-bit fedora?

2009-11-09 Thread Wendell Nichols

Michael Cronenworth wrote:

On 10/27/2009 01:52 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

   given the first release of android 2.0, has anyone out there
successfully installed that on a 64-bit fedora?  specifically, fedora
11 or (hopefully equivalently) fedora 12 beta.

   


I have the emulator running. I have not compiled any applications yet 
though.


Fedora 11 x86_64 machine. I do not have Sun Java installed.


There is another thread about the best choice of architectures to 
install 32 or 64 bit and this note applies to that as well.
For the last year I ran 64  bit fedora 10 on my think pad T61p  I had no 
problems with any of the 64 bit software and I did not notice any 
difference in performance between 32 and 64 bit versions (though you 
would expect that 32 bit versions would be a little easier on memory).  
My machine has only 4G of ram, so no real need of 64 bit os.

The problems I had running 64 bit linux:

  1. Java plugin is 32 bit so I had to run 32  bit versions of firefox
  2. Juniper vpn is 32 bit also
  3. Webex plugin is 32 bit
  4. Lots of other plugins for firefox are 32 bit
  5. The android sdk is 32 bit so I had to run 32 bit java and eclipse
  6. skype is 32 bit (but because there are no other product
 dependencies this never caused me any problems)

Having firefox and eclipse and Sun's jdk installed as 32 bit and the 
rest of the system running 64 bit caused me no end of hassles with 
package dependencies, upgrades etc.  Fedora's repositories are just not 
well enough tested in this area to work reliably using a combination of 
architectures.  Also most of the java apps have dependencies on IcedTea, 
which won't run sophisticated apps like eclipse and java plugins reliably. 
So I installed completely separate copies of firefox, java and eclipse 
just to avoid all the packaging problems.  I ran them out of 
/local/opt_x86.  That works but now you have to manage the versions of 
all these things yourself and research the reliability of each update.
In the end, I reinstalled my laptop with 32 bit fedora 10 which I am (so 
far) running without incident except that sound stops working with every 
second kernel update :(
Well thats my rant... any my final word:  Unless you have more than 4 g 
of mem I'd stick to 32 bit versions of linux.

wcn

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Re: anyone install android 2.0 sdk on 64-bit fedora?

2009-11-09 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Wendell Nichols on 11/09/2009 11:20 AM wrote:
> The problems I had running 64 bit linux:

You're a few years behind.

1. Sun's Java plugin is 64-bit now, but it doesn't matter. Red Hat's
OpenJDK had a 64-bit plugin first and it works 99.9% the same. I believe
it was certified by Sun.
3. Webex runs on my 64-bit server.
4. What? Flash? That's 64-bit. (first on Linux, too)
5. Android is not arch dependent. Where'd you get that notion?
6. Skype plans on a 64-bit binary release, but it is going open source
anyway.

There is no reason to run only 32-bit kernel/apps/libs on a 64-bit CPU.
Even if you only have 256 megs of RAM.

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Re: anyone install android 2.0 sdk on 64-bit fedora?

2009-11-09 Thread Wendell Nichols

Michael Cronenworth wrote:

Wendell Nichols on 11/09/2009 11:20 AM wrote:
  

The problems I had running 64 bit linux:



You're a few years behind.

1. Sun's Java plugin is 64-bit now, but it doesn't matter. Red Hat's
OpenJDK had a 64-bit plugin first and it works 99.9% the same. I believe
it was certified by Sun.
3. Webex runs on my 64-bit server.
4. What? Flash? That's 64-bit. (first on Linux, too)
5. Android is not arch dependent. Where'd you get that notion?
6. Skype plans on a 64-bit binary release, but it is going open source
anyway.

There is no reason to run only 32-bit kernel/apps/libs on a 64-bit CPU.
Even if you only have 256 megs of RAM.

  
The Juniper VPN will hang firefox and sometimes the whole system if 
firefox uses the openjdk plugin.  That said its a crappy vpn anyway...

Your other comments are appreciated.  My next laptop will have 8G :)
wcn

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Re: anyone install android 2.0 sdk on 64-bit fedora?

2009-11-11 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

"Robert P. J. Day"  writes:
>   given the first release of android 2.0, has anyone out there
> successfully installed that on a 64-bit fedora?  specifically, fedora
> 11 or (hopefully equivalently) fedora 12 beta.

I've done it on f11/x86_64 using the Google SDK and the stock
eclipse.org 32-bit binaries.  When I tried the Fedora Eclipse I got a
string of errors that looked like missing java libraries.  I wasn't sure
how to resolve those, so I reluctantly used the 32-bit eclipse that the
Google installation notes referenced.  I did need to yum install a bunch
of 32-bit libraries.  

# for 32-bit android developement tools (eclipse et. al.)
yum install glibc.i686 ncurses-libs.i586 libgcc.i586 \
ncurses-libs.i586 libstdc++.i586 libX11.i586 \
zlib.i586   

After installing the recomended udev file, Fedora recognized the G1
phone and would let me download code to it.

-wolfgang
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