Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-30 Thread Robin Laing

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 18:12 +1000, L wrote:

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jussi Lehtola
jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:58 +1000, L wrote:

Hi,

I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange
mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange.
The temporary solution is outlook on XP on  VirtualBox, but this is
not preferable. Any help is great.

I think you need to install the exchange plugin with
# yum install evolution-brutus
--

Yes, I have this installed, How to configure it?


evolution-brutus is only one of several ways of using Exchange with Evo.
The MAPI plugin is another. I recommend taking this to the Evo list
(http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list)

poc



I came across this some time back and it may help.
http://www.openchange.org/

We are still on Exchange server 2003 so I can use
  http://www.saunalahti.fi/juhrauti/index.html

POP and IMAP are turned off in my case.

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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-30 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 14:46 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: 
 
 I came across this some time back and it may help.
 http://www.openchange.org/

This is the source of the evolution-mapi plugin currently in F11.

 
 We are still on Exchange server 2003 so I can use
http://www.saunalahti.fi/juhrauti/index.html

Looks like an OK workaround for mail, but apparently won't do calendars,
etc.

 
 POP and IMAP are turned off in my case.
 
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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-29 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:51:27PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote:
 On 09/27/2009 12:37 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
 .
  
  Does that about sum it up, O more knowledgeable ones?
 
   Sounds pretty good - except I think the server was open source and
 that version (up to 1.0) is still available with some googling. I found
 a binary of version 0.96.36 and source for 1.0 i think.
 

Do you have links for those? 

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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-27 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 12:44 +1000, L wrote:

 MAPI seems get evolution connected to exchange server, but crashed
 frequently. I'd like try Brutus. How to configure Brutus?
 
 In Evolution Account Editor, there is a session 'Brutus Settings', it asks for
 
 Exchange email address
 Window Domian
 Brutus Server
 Brutus Server port
 
 Can someone explain what are these, in particular the brutus server and port?
 

What I've picked up from the discussion is this:  You need to run (or
have your Exchange admin run) a Brutus server on a Windows box.  The
Brutus server connects to Exchange Server via the MAPI interface.  You
set up Evolution to connect to the Brutus server, and you interact with
Exchange via the Brutus middleman.

This would be all well and good, except that recently, nobody seems to
be able to locate the Brutus developers or find a current download for
the server.  My guess is that the server is not open source, as the devs
would have had to sign an NDA with Microsoft to get up-to-date specs for
Exchange MAPI.  Whether it's inexpensive enough to run one's own server
is another question we can't answer without access to the developers.

Does that about sum it up, O more knowledgeable ones?
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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-27 Thread Mail Lists
On 09/27/2009 12:37 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
.
 
 Does that about sum it up, O more knowledgeable ones?

  Sounds pretty good - except I think the server was open source and
that version (up to 1.0) is still available with some googling. I found
a binary of version 0.96.36 and source for 1.0 i think.

  But it feels like the developer (single?) is trying to go commercial
with julia which seems to based on brutus. So the code probably is at a
standstill but is available under GPL.

  If one were to install a kvm with win xp in it, we should be able to
run brutus server in that - tho i dont have visual c++ to compile it.

g

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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-26 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 23:11 -0400, Mail Llists wrote: 
 On 09/24/2009 10:28 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
 
  The basic way to configure any of these is: install the plugin RPM,
  restart evolution, create an account and select Brutus (or Exchange or
  MAPI, resp.) as the server type.  You'll need some information about
  server URLs, which your admins can supply.  In particular, the Brutus
  setup asks for a port, but nobody I've asked seems to know what the
  right port is.
  
 
 
   I need to connect to exchange 2007 - with no imap. In my experience.
 
a) thunderbird does not work.

Correct--no MAPI. no OWA.

 
b) evo with owa does not work (it scrapes things based on older owa)

Correct again.

 
c) evo-mapi - kind of reads some mails - but crashes doing almost
 anything (like copying mails). It also was unable to send any mails to
 any exchange user - mail stays in outbox - oddly it works perfectly well
 sending mail to anyone outside address!

evo-mapi is probably the future, but it's not there yet.

There's a patch in Bugzilla to fix the problem with interminable
rescanning, but it hasn't been incorporated yet.  I don't know about the
other crashes you've experienced--I haven't had a chance to get that far
yet.

 
 
d) evo brutus may be the only chance - tho it may not be active, and
 i was not able to find the required desktop windows server as i
 mentioned before.

I used to have a link to them, but I don't think it was 42tools.com.
Nevertheless, that seems to be where most Web links point to, and
there's no reference to it there.

 
   i'd really like to get this going ...
 
 gene
 
 
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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-26 Thread L
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 23:11 -0400, Mail Llists wrote:
 On 09/24/2009 10:28 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

  The basic way to configure any of these is: install the plugin RPM,
  restart evolution, create an account and select Brutus (or Exchange or
  MAPI, resp.) as the server type.  You'll need some information about
  server URLs, which your admins can supply.  In particular, the Brutus
  setup asks for a port, but nobody I've asked seems to know what the
  right port is.
 


   I need to connect to exchange 2007 - with no imap. In my experience.

    a) thunderbird does not work.

 Correct--no MAPI. no OWA.


    b) evo with owa does not work (it scrapes things based on older owa)

 Correct again.


    c) evo-mapi - kind of reads some mails - but crashes doing almost
 anything (like copying mails). It also was unable to send any mails to
 any exchange user - mail stays in outbox - oddly it works perfectly well
 sending mail to anyone outside address!

 evo-mapi is probably the future, but it's not there yet.

 There's a patch in Bugzilla to fix the problem with interminable
 rescanning, but it hasn't been incorporated yet.  I don't know about the
 other crashes you've experienced--I haven't had a chance to get that far
 yet.



    d) evo brutus may be the only chance - tho it may not be active, and
 i was not able to find the required desktop windows server as i
 mentioned before.

 I used to have a link to them, but I don't think it was 42tools.com.
 Nevertheless, that seems to be where most Web links point to, and
 there's no reference to it there.


   i'd really like to get this going ...

 gene



Hi

MAPI seems get evolution connected to exchange server, but crashed
frequently. I'd like try Brutus. How to configure Brutus?

In Evolution Account Editor, there is a session 'Brutus Settings', it asks for

Exchange email address
Window Domian
Brutus Server
Brutus Server port

Can someone explain what are these, in particular the brutus server and port?

Thanks


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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-25 Thread Mail Llists
On 09/24/2009 10:28 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  There's a patch in Bugzilla, but there hasn't been a release
 pushed yet with the patch.
 
 The Brutus connector should work with Exchange 2007, but there are some
 configuration issues.  
 
 The basic way to configure any of these is: install the plugin RPM,
 restart evolution, create an account and select Brutus (or Exchange or
 MAPI, resp.) as the server type.  You'll need some information about
 server URLs, which your admins can supply.  In particular, the Brutus
 setup asks for a port, but nobody I've asked seems to know what the
 right port is.
 


  I'd like to know too - best I can tell, however, brutus will talk to a
brutus server - which runs on any desktop witrh user privs only (not the
exchange server) and uses MAPI to communicate with exchnage server and
in turn then passes it to the evo brutus client.

 However I didnt seem to find a copy of the sever (see
http://www.ohloh.net/p/3184 for example).

 Let us know if you manage to find the server and get it working

gene

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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-25 Thread Mail Llists
On 09/24/2009 10:28 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

 The basic way to configure any of these is: install the plugin RPM,
 restart evolution, create an account and select Brutus (or Exchange or
 MAPI, resp.) as the server type.  You'll need some information about
 server URLs, which your admins can supply.  In particular, the Brutus
 setup asks for a port, but nobody I've asked seems to know what the
 right port is.
 


  I need to connect to exchange 2007 - with no imap. In my experience.

   a) thunderbird does not work.

   b) evo with owa does not work (it scrapes things based on older owa)

   c) evo-mapi - kind of reads some mails - but crashes doing almost
anything (like copying mails). It also was unable to send any mails to
any exchange user - mail stays in outbox - oddly it works perfectly well
sending mail to anyone outside address!


   d) evo brutus may be the only chance - tho it may not be active, and
i was not able to find the required desktop windows server as i
mentioned before.

  i'd really like to get this going ...

gene

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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-25 Thread Mail Llists
On 09/25/2009 11:11 PM, Mail Llists wrote:
e, and
 i was not able to find the required desktop windows server as i

   To be more specific - clicking on the download page I get a blank page.

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evolution to exchange server

2009-09-24 Thread L
Hi,

I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange
mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange.
The temporary solution is outlook on XP on  VirtualBox, but this is
not preferable. Any help is great.

L

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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-24 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:58 +1000, L wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange
 mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange.
 The temporary solution is outlook on XP on  VirtualBox, but this is
 not preferable. Any help is great.

I think you need to install the exchange plugin with
# yum install evolution-brutus
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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-24 Thread L
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jussi Lehtola
jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:58 +1000, L wrote:
 Hi,

 I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange
 mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange.
 The temporary solution is outlook on XP on  VirtualBox, but this is
 not preferable. Any help is great.

 I think you need to install the exchange plugin with
 # yum install evolution-brutus
 --

Yes, I have this installed, How to configure it?


 Jussi Lehtola
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 jussileht...@fedoraproject.org

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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-24 Thread Jamie Wellnitz
The easiest solution for you (the user) would probably be using IMAP
to have Evolution retrieve email from Exchange - if it's enabled on
the Exchange server.

If you, or someone else, can convince the Exchange owner to enable
IMAP, that is.

-- Jamie

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:12 AM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jussi Lehtola
 jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:58 +1000, L wrote:
 Hi,

 I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange
 mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange.
 The temporary solution is outlook on XP on  VirtualBox, but this is
 not preferable. Any help is great.

 I think you need to install the exchange plugin with
 # yum install evolution-brutus
 --

 Yes, I have this installed, How to configure it?


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 jussileht...@fedoraproject.org

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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-24 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 18:12 +1000, L wrote: 
 On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jussi Lehtola
 jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
  On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:58 +1000, L wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange
  mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange.
  The temporary solution is outlook on XP on  VirtualBox, but this is
  not preferable. Any help is great.
 
  I think you need to install the exchange plugin with
  # yum install evolution-brutus
  --
 
 Yes, I have this installed, How to configure it?


I'm not sure how to configure evolution-brutus (I'd like to know,
because I'd like to try it), but there are a couple of alternatives to
consider as well.  

  * There is an OWA connector called evolution-exchange that works
(more or less) with Exchange 2003 server, but not with Exchange
2007.  It crashes frequently, but is at least functional most of
the time with the somewhat limited features that are provided
through OWA. 
  * There is a MAPI connector called evolution-mapi that is supposed
to work with Exchange 2007.  Right now, it has a but that makes
it close to unusable--it rescans the contents of the Inbox (and
maybe other folders as well) every time you switch to them.
There's a patch in Bugzilla, but there hasn't been a release
pushed yet with the patch.

The Brutus connector should work with Exchange 2007, but there are some
configuration issues.  

The basic way to configure any of these is: install the plugin RPM,
restart evolution, create an account and select Brutus (or Exchange or
MAPI, resp.) as the server type.  You'll need some information about
server URLs, which your admins can supply.  In particular, the Brutus
setup asks for a port, but nobody I've asked seems to know what the
right port is.

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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 18:12 +1000, L wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jussi Lehtola
 jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
  On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:58 +1000, L wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange
  mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange.
  The temporary solution is outlook on XP on  VirtualBox, but this is
  not preferable. Any help is great.
 
  I think you need to install the exchange plugin with
  # yum install evolution-brutus
  --
 
 Yes, I have this installed, How to configure it?

evolution-brutus is only one of several ways of using Exchange with Evo.
The MAPI plugin is another. I recommend taking this to the Evo list
(http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list)

poc

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