Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

2009-04-17 Thread Shannon McMackin

Steve Searle wrote:

Around 12:58pm on Thursday, April 16, 2009 (UK time), Dan scrawled:


Just updated the kernel about an hour ago.

Fedora 10 (x86)
Dell GX240
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF

When booting it gets as far as starting anacron and then I just
get a black screen with keyboard and mouse frozen.
Dmesg and boot log offer no hints.


I have had the same problem with my ATI card and the flgrx driver in the
past (stickign at starting anacron).  Adding nomodeset to the kernel
line on boot up gets past it.  You can change it by adding it in grub on
boot up, and making the change permanent if it works.

Steve


I have heard of some instances where the radeon driver is no longer 
working for certain ATI chips.  radeonhd is the way to go.  Maybe init 3 
and change the driver in xorg.conf and see if it helps.


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Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

2009-04-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/17/2009 06:56 PM, Shannon McMackin wrote:


 I have heard of some instances where the radeon driver is no longer
 working for certain ATI chips.  radeonhd is the way to go.

Apparently not.

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00711.html

Rahul

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kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

2009-04-16 Thread Dan
Just updated the kernel about an hour ago.

Fedora 10 (x86)
Dell GX240
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF

When booting it gets as far as starting anacron and then I just
get a black screen with keyboard and mouse frozen.
Dmesg and boot log offer no hints.

Anyone come across this or have any suggestions?

Kind Regards,
Dan
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Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

2009-04-16 Thread Sharpe, Sam J

Dan wrote:

Just updated the kernel about an hour ago.

Fedora 10 (x86)
Dell GX240
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF

When booting it gets as far as starting anacron and then I just
get a black screen with keyboard and mouse frozen.
Dmesg and boot log offer no hints.

Anyone come across this or have any suggestions?


That's not an F10 kernel yet, it's currently a test kernel:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=97890

Suggestion 1)
Don't use testing kernels and expect anything to work

Suggestion 2)
Don't enable the updates-testing repo unless you really are testing...

Suggestion 3)
Subscribe to the fedora-test-list and ask there: 
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list


HTH ;o)

(yeah, I know it's not helpful, but the guys on the Fedora Test list 
will be better placed to help you...)


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Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

2009-04-16 Thread Joachim Backes

Dan wrote:

Just updated the kernel about an hour ago.

Fedora 10 (x86)
Dell GX240
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF

When booting it gets as far as starting anacron and then I just
get a black screen with keyboard and mouse frozen.
Dmesg and boot log offer no hints.

Anyone come across this or have any suggestions?

Kind Regards,
Dan


Hi Dan,

I can't confirm this: My box boots completely with this kernel 
kernel-2.6.29.1-30.fc10.i686 from the updates-testing repo and is fully 
operable.


VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] 
(rev a1)


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Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

2009-04-16 Thread Dan
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 01:42:15PM +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
 Suggestion 1)
 Don't use testing kernels and expect anything to work
Lession learned :)

 Suggestion 2)
 Don't enable the updates-testing repo unless you really are testing...
Well, I don't mind testing...but it kind of help if it boots to
begin with :)

 HTH ;o)
It helps, thanks a lot Sam

Kind Regards,
Dan

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Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

2009-04-16 Thread fedora
Have you an external nss e.g. LDAP, NIS+,  which with the new kernel is 
not accessible at that point?


suomi

Dan wrote:

Just updated the kernel about an hour ago.

Fedora 10 (x86)
Dell GX240
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF

When booting it gets as far as starting anacron and then I just
get a black screen with keyboard and mouse frozen.
Dmesg and boot log offer no hints.

Anyone come across this or have any suggestions?

Kind Regards,
Dan


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Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

2009-04-16 Thread Dan
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 04:52:31PM +0200, fedora wrote:
 Have you an external nss e.g. LDAP, NIS+,  which with the new kernel is
 not accessible at that point?
None at all.

I have backed down to 2.6.27 in the meantime, though I am curious as
to why this particular 2.6.29 kernel won't work on this machine which
has run 2.6.29 kernels (other distribution) previously. I'll look
into it the next few days and see what the differences between the
two kernels are and perhaps can solve my problem.


Kind regards,
Dan
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Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

2009-04-16 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2009/4/16 Dan my.account...@ntlworld.com:
 Just updated the kernel about an hour ago.

 Fedora 10 (x86)
 Dell GX240
 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF

 When booting it gets as far as starting anacron and then I just
 get a black screen with keyboard and mouse frozen.
 Dmesg and boot log offer no hints.

 Anyone come across this or have any suggestions?

After installing the same kernel from updates-testing along with all
the other 'testing updates, I have run into a similar issue.

First, I noticed that unlike with 2.6.27, KMS is now enabled on my
hardware. However, booting seemed to get stuck in the same place as on
your machine. After getting stuck, only the ACPI event from the power
button seemed to do anything meaningful (The system shut down cleanly,
though without any output to the screen).

After adding the nomodeset word to the kernel boot parameters, the
system acts as it used to. No KMS, no getting stuck at the end of
boot. Try doing the same if you suspect it has anything to do with
KMS.

The hardware where this happens is an IBM Thinkpad T41, with the
following graphics card:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon
Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]


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Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

2009-04-16 Thread Dan
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 08:12:49PM +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
 After installing the same kernel from updates-testing along with all
 the other 'testing updates, I have run into a similar issue.

 First, I noticed that unlike with 2.6.27, KMS is now enabled on my
 hardware. However, booting seemed to get stuck in the same place as on
 your machine. After getting stuck, only the ACPI event from the power
 button seemed to do anything meaningful (The system shut down cleanly,
 though without any output to the screen).
Yes, that about the same.

 After adding the nomodeset word to the kernel boot parameters, the
 system acts as it used to. No KMS, no getting stuck at the end of
 boot. Try doing the same if you suspect it has anything to do with
 KMS.
Thanks for your suggestion Joonas :)
I did try that. The machine booted up to the point where the login
screen would have come up and then froze solid.

That being said, I tried for day to install the new beta on this
machine with no success. When I was finally able get 11 beta
installed and rebooted, I got the exact same behaviour from that
kernel as I am experiencing now. So obviously, something isn't right
someplace.

I'll poke around the next couple of days and try to determine what
the problem is.

Thanks a lot for your idea though, I appreciate it.

Kind Regards,
Dan
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Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

2009-04-16 Thread psmith

Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:

2009/4/16 Dan my.account...@ntlworld.com:
  

Just updated the kernel about an hour ago.

Fedora 10 (x86)
Dell GX240
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF

When booting it gets as far as starting anacron and then I just
get a black screen with keyboard and mouse frozen.
Dmesg and boot log offer no hints.

Anyone come across this or have any suggestions?



After installing the same kernel from updates-testing along with all
the other 'testing updates, I have run into a similar issue.

First, I noticed that unlike with 2.6.27, KMS is now enabled on my
hardware. However, booting seemed to get stuck in the same place as on
your machine. After getting stuck, only the ACPI event from the power
button seemed to do anything meaningful (The system shut down cleanly,
though without any output to the screen).

After adding the nomodeset word to the kernel boot parameters, the
system acts as it used to. No KMS, no getting stuck at the end of
boot. Try doing the same if you suspect it has anything to do with
KMS.

The hardware where this happens is an IBM Thinkpad T41, with the
following graphics card:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon
Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]


  

no problems here on my acer aspire on a150 with said kernel update

phil

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Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

2009-04-16 Thread Steve Searle
Around 12:58pm on Thursday, April 16, 2009 (UK time), Dan scrawled:

 Just updated the kernel about an hour ago.
 
 Fedora 10 (x86)
 Dell GX240
 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF
 
 When booting it gets as far as starting anacron and then I just
 get a black screen with keyboard and mouse frozen.
 Dmesg and boot log offer no hints.

I have had the same problem with my ATI card and the flgrx driver in the
past (stickign at starting anacron).  Adding nomodeset to the kernel
line on boot up gets past it.  You can change it by adding it in grub on
boot up, and making the change permanent if it works.

Steve

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