mac usb drive problem with F11
I'd like to mount a (WD) mac usb drive in F11. It has a hfsplus filesystem on it. I can mount it and copy data to it but when I look in the drive I see no new data, just what was already there. Any suggestions? mtab: [d...@davehost ~]$ cat /etc/mtab /dev/mapper/vg_davehost-lv_root / ext4 rw 0 0 proc /proc proc rw 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/sda1 /boot ext3 rw 0 0 tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0 sunrpc /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs rpc_pipefs rw 0 0 gvfs-fuse-daemon /home/dave/.gvfs fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon rw,nosuid,nodev,user=dave 0 0 /dev/sr0 /media/Bluebirds iso9660 ro,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit,uid=500,gid=500,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500 0 /dev/sdf3 /media/My\040Passport hfsplus rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit 0 0 -- "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Krishnamurti -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mac usb drive problem with F11
2010/1/7 Dave Stevens : > I'd like to mount a (WD) mac usb drive in F11. It has a hfsplus filesystem > on it. I can mount it and copy data to it but when I look in the drive I see > no new data, just what was already there. Any suggestions? > Does Linux have write support for hfsplus yet? Or only hfs? -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mac usb drive problem with F11
On 01/06/2010 08:48 PM, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/7 Dave Stevens: I'd like to mount a (WD) mac usb drive in F11. It has a hfsplus filesystem on it. I can mount it and copy data to it but when I look in the drive I see no new data, just what was already there. Any suggestions? Does Linux have write support for hfsplus yet? Or only hfs? AFAIK, only HFS, HFS+ (journaled HFS) isn't there yet. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Give me ambiguity or give me something else! - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mac usb drive problem with F11
2010/1/8 Rick Stevens : > > AFAIK, only HFS, HFS+ (journaled HFS) isn't there yet. Yes, that's what I thought. Interestingly though his mount command shows that it's mounted rw, yet if he couldn't write to it I'd expect some kind of error. So Dave, under OS X you can turn journalling OFF on the device, then reboot into Linux and try it without journalling. It's something like: sudo diskutil disableJournal /Volumes/VOLUME_NAME -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mac usb drive problem with F11
On 01/07/2010 02:34 PM, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/8 Rick Stevens: AFAIK, only HFS, HFS+ (journaled HFS) isn't there yet. Yes, that's what I thought. Interestingly though his mount command shows that it's mounted rw, yet if he couldn't write to it I'd expect some kind of error. IIRC (and my experience had to do with using an iPod as a drive, so keep that in mind), you didn't get an error from the write. I think the write occurred as far as Linux was concerned, but the device wouldn't actually commit the write to disk because of the journal. Once you turned off journaling, writes generated an SELinux error. That should be fixed (HFS is supposed to be treated the same as NFS in later SELinux versions). I had BZ'd that glitch and I think that was the response. So Dave, under OS X you can turn journalling OFF on the device, then reboot into Linux and try it without journalling. It's something like: sudo diskutil disableJournal /Volumes/VOLUME_NAME -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... - - ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mac usb drive problem with F11
On Friday 08 January 2010 10:10:57 am Rick Stevens wrote: > On 01/07/2010 02:34 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > > 2010/1/8 Rick Stevens: > >> AFAIK, only HFS, HFS+ (journaled HFS) isn't there yet. > > > > Yes, that's what I thought. Interestingly though his mount command > > shows that it's mounted rw, yet if he couldn't write to it I'd expect > > some kind of error. > > IIRC (and my experience had to do with using an iPod as a drive, so > keep that in mind), you didn't get an error from the write. I think > the write occurred as far as Linux was concerned, but the device > wouldn't actually commit the write to disk because of the journal. > > Once you turned off journaling, writes generated an SELinux error. > That should be fixed (HFS is supposed to be treated the same as NFS in > later SELinux versions). I had BZ'd that glitch and I think that was > the response. > > > So Dave, under OS X you can turn journalling OFF on the device, then > > reboot into Linux and try it without journalling. > > It's something like: > > > > sudo diskutil disableJournal /Volumes/VOLUME_NAME Thanks to all who answered. I tried mounting it with -force, which in principle ought to have permitted writes, but even though the write operation went as I would have expected (messages about copying n files then n-1 files all the way down to zero), after the copy I saw no new data on the drive. PITA. So now I've copied all the data to a ntfs usb drive and will next plug that into the macbook pro to see if I can get the data there. And the hfsplus volume works with the macbook pro, so in principle. crossing my fingers... Dave > > -- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - > -- > - If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... - > - ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! - > -- -- >From outside our borders, the climate crisis doesn't look anything like the meteors or space invaders that Todd Stern imagined hurtling toward Earth. It looks, instead, like a long and silent war waged by the rich against the poor. Naomi Klein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mac usb drive problem with F11
On Wednesday 06 January 2010 08:48:24 pm Chris Smart wrote: > 2010/1/7 Dave Stevens : > > I'd like to mount a (WD) mac usb drive in F11. It has a hfsplus > > filesystem on it. I can mount it and copy data to it but when I look in > > the drive I see no new data, just what was already there. Any > > suggestions? > > Does Linux have write support for hfsplus yet? Or only hfs? > > -c I guess the answer to that is no. D -- >From outside our borders, the climate crisis doesn't look anything like the meteors or space invaders that Todd Stern imagined hurtling toward Earth. It looks, instead, like a long and silent war waged by the rich against the poor. Naomi Klein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mac usb drive problem with F11
2010/1/9 Dave Stevens : > I guess the answer to that is no. > Did you see my email about disabling journalling? I'm pretty confident that if you do that, you will be able to write to it under Linux - it's still HFS+, just without journalling. You can re-enable journalling under OS X afterwards if you want to. OS X cannot read NTFS AFAIK. -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
