Re: new thing to make people turn crazy

2009-03-17 Thread Todd Denniston

François Patte wrote, On 03/17/2009 04:08 PM:


Bonsoir,

I plugged an usb drive on my computer and, instead of being mounted as
usual, a popup window opened claiming that some application was trying
to mount a device and... I had to enter the root password!!!

What's this mess?

The story is not finished: I discovered a config tool for this in
System>Prefs>system>permission which run the polkit-gnome-authorization.

*As a simple user*, not root, I found a line:

"mount file systems from removable drive" for which the permission is
set, by default, to: "No" for everybody.

*as simple user* (again), I changed this permission to yes for everybody

I am wondering what is the meaning of this: either it is something that
everybody can do and no tool is needed, or it is important that only
root can modify some system wide config and, in that case this tool is a
nonsense.




You might also enjoy following this thread:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00934.html
and these bugs:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489397
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450304

which discuss some interesting things about PolicyKit and DeviceKit.

Hopefully the reason you could change the "mount file systems from removable 
drive" permissions was because you first entered the root password for the 
first popup, if however it was not then please open a bug describing that 
problem.  it would be new but related to 450304.


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Re: new thing to make people turn crazy

2009-03-17 Thread fred smith
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 09:08:51PM +0100, François Patte wrote:
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> Bonsoir,
> 
> I plugged an usb drive on my computer and, instead of being mounted as
> usual, a popup window opened claiming that some application was trying
> to mount a device and... I had to enter the root password!!!
> 
> What's this mess?

I have no experience with that, but having said that... It's certainly
a security mechanism to keep any joe blow from walking up to the 
unattended machine and sticking in a USB device that may be used for
nefarious purposes. You should be able to change it to work like you
want if that isn't a concern for you.

> 
> The story is not finished: I discovered a config tool for this in
> System>Prefs>system>permission which run the polkit-gnome-authorization.
> 
> *As a simple user*, not root, I found a line:
> 
> "mount file systems from removable drive" for which the permission is
> set, by default, to: "No" for everybody.
> 
> *as simple user* (again), I changed this permission to yes for everybody
> 
> I am wondering what is the meaning of this: either it is something that
> everybody can do and no tool is needed, or it is important that only
> root can modify some system wide config and, in that case this tool is a
> nonsense.
> 
> Same thing as for the gnome keyring manager (see another post on this
> list): I cannot disable it and everytime I want to ssh a remote host a
> popup ask me for a password, I refuse to give a password (I was not
> asked to define one) and I can ssh For what purpose are these stupid
> tools?
> 
> I tried to yum remove these things but it is impossible: so many
> packages depend on them: scim!!! evince!!! totem!, eog, f-spot
> 
> In f11, shall we be forced to set a password to log-in, another to use
> emacs, another to use TeX, another to see the result of what we have
> typed with emacs/tex...
> 
> Is this security policy a heritage from Bush administration?
> 
> - --
> François Patte

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new thing to make people turn crazy

2009-03-17 Thread François Patte
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Bonsoir,

I plugged an usb drive on my computer and, instead of being mounted as
usual, a popup window opened claiming that some application was trying
to mount a device and... I had to enter the root password!!!

What's this mess?

The story is not finished: I discovered a config tool for this in
System>Prefs>system>permission which run the polkit-gnome-authorization.

*As a simple user*, not root, I found a line:

"mount file systems from removable drive" for which the permission is
set, by default, to: "No" for everybody.

*as simple user* (again), I changed this permission to yes for everybody

I am wondering what is the meaning of this: either it is something that
everybody can do and no tool is needed, or it is important that only
root can modify some system wide config and, in that case this tool is a
nonsense.

Same thing as for the gnome keyring manager (see another post on this
list): I cannot disable it and everytime I want to ssh a remote host a
popup ask me for a password, I refuse to give a password (I was not
asked to define one) and I can ssh For what purpose are these stupid
tools?

I tried to yum remove these things but it is impossible: so many
packages depend on them: scim!!! evince!!! totem!, eog, f-spot

In f11, shall we be forced to set a password to log-in, another to use
emacs, another to use TeX, another to see the result of what we have
typed with emacs/tex...

Is this security policy a heritage from Bush administration?

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Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2413
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
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