Re: privoxy conundrum [*NOT* solved]
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 01:59:31PM -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> This is not solved, after all.
>
> Perhaps you *do* have to service privoxy restart and
> restart the browser. All was working splendidly, now it
> hangs on google-analytics again, just like before.
>
> google-analytics is dealt with in the default.action
> file, but clearly this doesn't work correctly.
>
> Any more ideas?
I put ssl.google-analytics.com in the privoxy user.action file, under the
"{ -block }" section.
I also used ghostery's blocking in firefox, then I could it in ghostery,
and the page still loads.
Yesterday, I was playing with it some - sometimes privoxy blocks (and logs
the blocking) of the requests, sometimes it does not, I'm not sure why. I
cleared the cache and cookies (in firefox), but no change. And, then the
page loaded fine with ssl.google-analytics.com blocked.
And, today the page won't load :-(
I get this logged:
Oct 16 13:36:28.496 Privoxy(b73ffb70) Request:
ssl.google-analytics.com:443/ crunch! (Blocked)
The really sad part is that this is my *bank*! I complained, but they
haven't changed anything, I think they need to be publicly shamed.
-- Patrick Mansfield
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Re: privoxy conundrum [*NOT* solved]
Frank Cox wrote: > Out-of-the-box, it doesn't do much. Actually, I am impressed by how much it does do, right out-of-the-box! The vast majority of web sites are cleaned of web junk, with only a few infractions. I notice that out- of-the-box, it sometimes cleans a bit too much, for example on calgarysun.ca it removes the sunshine girl and the auto section, but correctly removes the doubleclick section, and fills them in with checkerboard patterns, yet, on libération.fr, it doesn't remove doubleclick! Very strange. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum [*NOT* solved]
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:54:57 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > However, the French newspapers I read don't seem to > fare well with default.actions at all. Just checking > liberation.fr/monde today, I noticed that > doubleclick.net and smartadserver.com are getting > through! I know that doubleclick is in default.actions, > so how come? You have to configure privoxy. Out-of-the-box, it doesn't do much. The following article goes into detail about how to accomplish your goal: http://www.melvilletheatre.com/articles/squid-privoxy/index.html -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum [*NOT* solved]
Frank Cox wrote: > customizegoogle I thought I would read that ;-) Now, I noticed something curious: All the Canadian and German online newspapers I read seem to fare quite well with the default.actions (ads are blocked, with the exception of their own ads, but I don't object to an ad for financial post on the national post site, as the financial post is the business section of national post; or getting a yahoo mail ad on the ca.yahoo.com site, since that is yahoo's mail program). However, the French newspapers I read don't seem to fare well with default.actions at all. Just checking liberation.fr/monde today, I noticed that doubleclick.net and smartadserver.com are getting through! I know that doubleclick is in default.actions, so how come? I don't understand why ads that are blocked by default in default.actions appear anyway and why I must explicitly block them yet again in user.actions. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum [*NOT* solved]
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:59:31 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > Any more ideas? customizegoogle -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum [*NOT* solved]
This is not solved, after all. Perhaps you *do* have to service privoxy restart and restart the browser. All was working splendidly, now it hangs on google-analytics again, just like before. google-analytics is dealt with in the default.action file, but clearly this doesn't work correctly. Any more ideas? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum [solved]
Frank Cox wrote: > customizegoogle is available through mozilla Thanks for the correction :-0 I will keep it in mind, in case I need further protection. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum [solved]
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:47:19 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > I had a look at customizegoogle, but I pass. Thanks for > the suggestion, but I prefer to avoid installing > scripts and firefox addons, etc., that do not originate > from reputable sources like fedora, mozilla, etc. customizegoogle is available through mozilla: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/743 -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum [solved]
Frank Cox wrote:
> [google-analytics.com is] included in my user.action
file. and it hasn't caused any problems yet
> that I'm aware of.
I have removed ssl.google-analytics.com from the sites
that bypass privoxy, but to be safe, I did make an
entry to refuse cookies.
I checked your user.action file and added a { +block }
section with .google-analytics.com beneath -- the only
deviation from the stock file provided by the package,
and now it all seems to work!
I can log out of google, I can check my pcpoints...
I must have had an obscure error in my original file,
which was the stock file, like yours, plus a couple of
sites to expressly block, again, like yours. As a
result of this experimentation, I have noticed that it
is not necessary to block all of those sites at all,
as the standard user.action already does it without
further ado.
==
I had a look at customizegoogle, but I pass. Thanks for
the suggestion, but I prefer to avoid installing
scripts and firefox addons, etc., that do not originate
from reputable sources like fedora, mozilla, etc.
In any respect, *it works!*
Merci and Happy Thanksgiving Day.
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Re: privoxy conundrum
Frank Cox wrote: > Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > >> Any way to solve the conundrum? > > 1. It's included in my user.action file. and it hasn't caused any problems > yet that I'm aware of. > > 2. If you read the article referred you to earlier you will discover a > reference to customizegoogle, which has special handling for > google-analytics included. > I will have a look at your page again with particular regard to "customize google," as you indicate that you have expressly dealt with google-analytics. No, of course I don't expect you to get a Real Canadian Superstore Master Card (although the points for gasoline and groceries are worth it ;-) just to test out the pcpoints.ca site LOL I am grateful that you responded at this late hour and ought to take advantage (in a friendly manner) of your online presence simultaneous to mine, but I must say that here in AB it is already past 0100 (and in SK past 0200, I believe), but I must hit the hay, as I have a big day Sunday, this being Thanksgiving (Erntedankfest) weekend. == I will tell you on this thread how I fare in the course of Sunday. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:49:35 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > blocking it causes some (at least one known, so far) > essential sites not to work at all. > > Any way to solve the conundrum? 1. It's included in my user.action file. and it hasn't caused any problems yet that I'm aware of. 2. If you read the article referred you to earlier you will discover a reference to customizegoogle, which has special handling for google-analytics included. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum
I looked at your web page suggestions. I have not looked at your 2 configuration files yet, but I noticed that you indicate telling Firefox not to use a proxy for certain problem sites. With no proxy for: - www.pcpoints.ca > it still doesn't work - ssl.google-analytics.com > the site now displays I am not sure what to do now. google-analytics is known to be a privacy-compromising cross-site tracking site, so it should definitely be blocked, but... blocking it causes some (at least one known, so far) essential sites not to work at all. Any way to solve the conundrum? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:37:56 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > > Can you give me an example of a website that's > causing you problems? Allow me to rephrase that: Can you give me an example of a website that's giving you problems and that won't force me to create some kind of user account that I don't need or want in order to test it? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum
Frank Cox wrote: > Can you give me an example of a website that's causing you problems? Yes, I can, two, in fact: www.google.ca (when logging out, after having used the reader, but any google service, I believe, google- analytics is called and it hangs, so the logged out successfully screen never appears) -- I don't care much about the problem with respect to this site, as reloading the site shows that it did indeed successfully log out www.pcpoints.ca (this is definitely a problem that I *do* care about) -- try to log in to check your President's Choice reward points balance and you will see that you cannot ever get into the site, because the site never gets past google-analytics, hence never loads -- I will have a look at your specially tuned user.action file. I feel the default is offering me enough protection from web junk as it is configured by default, but clearly there is a small glitch somewhere that prevents the proper function of loading a page to get to a log-in screen. I have never altered the privoxy config file, but I will look at yours to see whether there is something I might wish to change in the default set-up. Again, I would like to state that I prefer to change as little as possible, unless absolutely necessary, to support acceptable internet use vs. security from exposure to web junk. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:58:29 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > > > I am using pretty well the standard user.action file > > Correction: I have restored the standard user.action file > and the problem persists: no site using google- > analytics.com will load. I haven't seen that problem and I use privoxy extensively as described here: http://www.melvilletheatre.com/articles/squid-privoxy/index.html Can you give me an example of a website that's causing you problems? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: privoxy conundrum
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > I am using pretty well the standard user.action file Correction: I have restored the standard user.action file and the problem persists: no site using google- analytics.com will load. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
privoxy conundrum
I use privoxy to filter unwanted junk from websites. I
am using pretty well the standard user.action file,
although I did add a few .ad.* type sites to block.
Everything works splendidly, except for one problem:
Any site that uses ssl.google-analytics.com refuses to
load.
They work fine if I disable privoxy.
I have even tried putting ssl.google-analytics.com in
the { -filter } section, but that doesn't work, either.
Any ideas?
PS: I use firefox.
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