talk about your gEDA/pcb
Hello there, There is blog post on makezine about gEDA/pcb, I would welcome you to spread the "opensource" word about EDA software tools as comments in this post. http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/02/remixed_drawdio.html It is important for both the public and gEDA/gaf developers to know that people are using gEDA/gaf tools. Currently the gEDA/gaf community is preparing the next major release 1.6 which we are hoping to get it in time for F-11. Happy design. Kind regards, Chitlesh GOORAH -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: Hello there, There is blog post on makezine about gEDA/pcb, I would welcome you to spread the "opensource" word about EDA software tools as comments in this post. http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/02/remixed_drawdio.html It is important for both the public and gEDA/gaf developers to know that people are using gEDA/gaf tools. Currently the gEDA/gaf community is preparing the next major release 1.6 which we are hoping to get it in time for F-11. Happy design. Kind regards, Chitlesh GOORAH I have used gEDA for some stuff but now starting to use it more. Just ran through a tutorial for spice simulation to learn more. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > It is important for both the public and gEDA/gaf developers to know > that people are using gEDA/gaf tools. Currently the gEDA/gaf community > is preparing the next major release 1.6 which we are hoping to get it > in time for F-11. I'm inching closer and closer to needing to use it. I work in a mixed group of engineers and physicists...we build our own HF gear for research specific needs. I haven't been directly tasked with any electronics layout work yet... and the EE's have so far not be interested in looking at the open tools on their own. I keep finding that I don't have much success getting people to adopt open tools, unless I'm working on something and actively using the tool myself that I can show them. People are far more receptive if they watch me over my shoulder working on something...even if its poorly done project...because I'm an idiot...they end up admiring the tools even if the project is crap...they just blame me. I'm actually really interested in knowing what are some successful strategies for introducing gEDA/gaf in a group setting. Not a LUG. Like at a conference or workshop setting. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Robin Laing wrote: > Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >> >> Hello there, >> >> There is blog post on makezine about gEDA/pcb, I would welcome you to >> spread the "opensource" word about EDA software tools as comments in >> this post. >> >> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/02/remixed_drawdio.html >> >> It is important for both the public and gEDA/gaf developers to know >> that people are using gEDA/gaf tools. Currently the gEDA/gaf community >> is preparing the next major release 1.6 which we are hoping to get it >> in time for F-11. >> >> Happy design. >> >> Kind regards, >> Chitlesh GOORAH >> > > > I have used gEDA for some stuff but now starting to use it more. Just ran > through a tutorial for spice simulation to learn more. > > -- > Robin Laing It's been years since I looked at gEDA. Back then (6-8 years ago) there was little integration among the tools. Is it still the case? By the way, I visited the gEDA.org and "open collector" sites and that's the impression that I's still getting. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Kam Leo wrote: > It's been years since I looked at gEDA. Back then (6-8 years ago) > there was little integration among the tools. Is it still the case? By > the way, I visited the gEDA.org and "open collector" sites and that's > the impression that I's still getting. Why don't you try yum install geda* ? http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL Chitlesh -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Kam Leo wrote: It's been years since I looked at gEDA. Back then (6-8 years ago) there was little integration among the tools. Is it still the case? By the way, I visited the gEDA.org and "open collector" sites and that's the impression that I's still getting. Why don't you try yum install geda* ? http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL Chitlesh My basic problem is: where do I start? I installed this with the hopes of testing out my version of a X10 like circuit (active and discrete components), and yet I look at the "Circuit" menu and I get flabergasted - because I was not sure what to do. Do I open xcircuit first, laydown the components from a library menu, and then once done, how do I get from there to spice? Perhaps an idiot-proof tutorial would come in handy so that one can go from an idea (a simple circuit will do) all the way through the process to the end-product? I mean, from conception, to schematic, to spice analysis, to pcboard (end product)? I think this would be of benefit and in case there already is one, where please? :) Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Perhaps an idiot-proof tutorial would come in handy so that > one can go from an idea (a simple circuit will do) all the way > through the process to the end-product? > > I mean, from conception, to schematic, to spice analysis, to pcboard > (end product)? > > I think this would be of benefit and in case there already is one, > where please? :) Hello this is nothing different than the normal spice netlist extract methodology from a schematic. Xcircuit provides you with a simple interface with its menu. Then you can use your favourite spicesimulation tool ngspice or gnucap to simulate. Else, if you like tcl-based scripts, I've uploaded a simple NOR2 example. I personally use tcl scripts to automate my design flow. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-electronic-lab.git?p=fedora-electronic-lab.git;a=tree;f=wikiExamples Aanjhaan is working hard to set up a centralized location for FEL downloads as I've described on my blog post: http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/02/fel-documentation.html We are trying to reduce the learning curve barier for FEL tools. Any input or help will be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Chitlesh -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Kam Leo wrote: It's been years since I looked at gEDA. Back then (6-8 years ago) there was little integration among the tools. Is it still the case? By the way, I visited the gEDA.org and "open collector" sites and that's the impression that I's still getting. Why don't you try yum install geda* ? http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL Chitlesh My basic problem is: where do I start? I installed this with the hopes of testing out my version of a X10 like circuit (active and discrete components), and yet I look at the "Circuit" menu and I get flabergasted - because I was not sure what to do. Do I open xcircuit first, laydown the components from a library menu, and then once done, how do I get from there to spice? Perhaps an idiot-proof tutorial would come in handy so that one can go from an idea (a simple circuit will do) all the way through the process to the end-product? I mean, from conception, to schematic, to spice analysis, to pcboard (end product)? I think this would be of benefit and in case there already is one, where please? :) Thanks! Dan I have worked through a tutorial on gEDA that didn't include spice. I have just tried this spice tutorial. http://www.johannes-bauer.com/electronics/ Note, that there is a slight problem with the examples on this page. The examples have a case issue for the netnames in Vin and Vout. I have emailed the author on this but have not gotten a reply. Of course could start at the gEDA site. http://geda.seul.org/index.html I have only started trying to work with spice and my first experience with computerized design was with Multisim on Windows 95. I would like to see the Linux tools move into a real time simulation like some of the commercial applications have. I came across this but I have yet to try it. http://easy-spice.sourceforge.net/examples.html Here is another gEDA and SPICE tutorial. It is old though. Again, I have not tried it. http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/t1.html -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb (Robin Laing)
Dan, > > My basic problem is: where do I start? I installed this with the > > hopes of testing out my version of a X10 like circuit (active and > > discrete components), and yet I look at the "Circuit" menu and I get > > flabergasted - because I was not sure what to do. I agree that the Geda suite is not very well integrated and hard to break into. However, I have used SPICE at work for decades and found the Ngspice simulator fairly easy to use. I'm developing my own waveform viewer which allows arbitrary math to be performed on the simulation waveforms: http://www.omnisterra.com/walker/linux/post/intro.htm For PCB layout (I'm also doing some X10 stuff!) I've been very happy with Kicad: http://kicad.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page I've done about 10 printed circuit boards with this GPL'd tool (some 2 layer, some 4 layer) with no problems. It includes a schematic capture tool, a footprint editor, and a PCB layout tool. The layout can be design rule checked and compared with the schematic. Output is standard Gerber. You can even get a 3d view of the finished board. -- Rick Walker -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb (Robin Laing)
Rick Walker wrote: > Dan, >>> My basic problem is: where do I start? I installed this with the >>> hopes of testing out my version of a X10 like circuit (active and > I agree that the Geda suite is not very well integrated and hard to > I've done about 10 printed circuit boards with this GPL'd tool (some 2 hi, i looked for dan's post but unable to find. have you all looked at https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-electronic-lab-list it is a good list like this, but leans more towards circuit design. or has it been moved to this list? fel, fedora-electronic-lab, can be can be used in plain fedora. something i will be doing after i can get f10 stable. a couple eda sites; http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/ http://elettrolinux.com/ http://geda.seul.org/ article; http://www.edn.com/blog/92692/post/1290038929.html later. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb (Robin Laing)
Rick Walker wrote: > Dan, g wrote: > i looked for dan's post but unable to find. just found it. chitlesh goorah thread, broken by laing. later. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
