totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)
http://digg.com/environment/Race_hots_up_to_produce_the_first_car_running_on_tap_water Please check this out and digg it... also see the links in the digg comments. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)
Valent Turkovic wrote: http://digg.com/environment/Race_hots_up_to_produce_the_first_car_running_on_tap_water Please check this out and digg it... also see the links in the digg comments. Never studied thermodynamics? I have a perpetual motion machine for sale. Cheap for you, today only. :-) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:59 PM, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Valent Turkovic wrote: >> >> >> http://digg.com/environment/Race_hots_up_to_produce_the_first_car_running_on_tap_water >> >> Please check this out and digg it... also see the links in the digg >> comments. >> >> > > Never studied thermodynamics? > > I have a perpetual motion machine for sale. Cheap for you, today only. :-) > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Steorn beat you to it :) People who develop "joe cell" and "hho gas" don't claim that this goes agaings thermodynamic laws. There was a discussion on this topic in links I gave in digg comments so I encourage you to read it. I have enough physics background to understant the contraversy for and agaings this. Please read this: http://snipurl.com/2keuc I personally believe that the story about Daniel Dingle is probably much less a hoax that this story, but there is a connection between dinglef foundation (http://www.dinglefoundation.com/) and this company called Ethos. I would ask you to first look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVhXrvCCILw I first heard about water powered cars about 1-2 years ago and since then I occasionally google for news about water cars and about Daniel Dingle. If you look on youtube for "water car", "joe cell", "hho gas" you will find lots and lots of videos. That is ofcourse no proof but that at least looks it is not a hoax by one person. So it this is a hoax it is really well organized and spread around the whole world because there are videos from Philipines, Austalia, New Zeland, USA, etc... So it looks like there could be something more here, but I will let you come to your own conclusions but at least do some online investigations yourself and then post your conclusions here. Please digg this story at: http://digg.com/environment/Race_hots_up_to_produce_the_first_car_running_on_tap_water and here are the links: • http://www.wasserauto.de/html/daniel_dingel.html • http://www.wasserauto.de/html/inquirer_article.html • http://www.dinglefoundation.com/ • http://www.bi-me.com/main.php?id=21410&t=1&c=7&cg=3&mset=1021 • Daniel Dingel's Hydrogen-Powered Car Yahoo group: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/watercar/ • makers of the video (lots of good links): http://www.mysticfamilycircus.com/Pages/Community/Projects/xwatercar.html • http://astigmachism.tolitz.com/2003/11/15/daniel-dingels-water-powered-car/ • physics discussion: http://snipurl.com/2keuc • http://tolitx.blogs.friendster.com/tatak_tolitz/2003/11/daniel_dingels_.html • http://www.technorati.com/search/daniel+dingle?authority=a4&language=en • http://www.news.ops.gov.ph/ -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)
Valent Turkovic wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:59 PM, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: http://digg.com/environment/Race_hots_up_to_produce_the_first_car_running_on_tap_water Please check this out and digg it... also see the links in the digg comments. Never studied thermodynamics? Don't you people watch the Mythbusters? They busted this long ago. :) (And for those that do, I know it's for modifying an existing internal combustion engine. Think more tongue in cheek.) -- Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)
Hi Valent;
I have been watching this Dingle story for a couple of years. And I saw
the Japanese story a few weeks ago.
>From everything I can read, the story deserves 'suspended disbelief'. I
remain highly sceptical ("perpetual motion" and "cold fusion") but
watchful and ready to be proven wrong when I see a car actually running
on and fueled by water; confirmed by reputable engineering and
scientific third parties. A large investment by a major car manufacturer
would certainly make the story more plausible.
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 12:30 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> http://digg.com/environment/Race_hots_up_to_produce_the_first_car_running_on_tap_water
>
> Please check this out and digg it... also see the links in the digg comments.
>
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Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 06:59 -0700, stan wrote: > Valent Turkovic wrote: > > http://digg.com/environment/Race_hots_up_to_produce_the_first_car_running_on_tap_water > > > > Please check this out and digg it... also see the links in the digg > > comments. > > > > > Never studied thermodynamics? > > I have a perpetual motion machine for sale. Cheap for you, today only. :-) > Yeah, exactly. And if you buy in the next 4 hours, we'll include a fantastic solar powered clothes dryer. Never waste electricity again! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
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Andrew Kelly wrote: Yeah, exactly. And if you buy in the next 4 hours, we'll include a fantastic solar powered clothes dryer. Never waste electricity again! They don't work too well in the winter here is Wisconsin - the clothes tend to freeze before they get dry. It makes them hard to fold unless you bring them inside and let them sit for a while. :) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:30:01 +0200 "Valent Turkovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://digg.com/environment/Race_hots_up_to_produce_the_first_car_running_on_tap_water > > Please check this out and digg it... also see the links in the digg comments. Sorry what does this silly idea have to do with Fedora (hint: if you think food is a short resource try water..) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)
> Yeah, exactly. And if you buy in the next 4 hours, we'll include a > fantastic solar powered clothes dryer. Careful - there are sound useful reasons for solar powered clothes driers that go via electricity or steam first. Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 18:44 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > Yeah, exactly. And if you buy in the next 4 hours, we'll include a > > fantastic solar powered clothes dryer. > > Careful - there are sound useful reasons for solar powered clothes driers > that go via electricity or steam first. Jeeez, Alan. I'm impressed that you know that steam is a major source for heating industrial dryers! Tip O' The Wayward4now Hat! Ric p/s hot oil is more popular nowadays. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar https://oar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 336-254-1339 - -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 4:35 PM, William Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Valent;
>
> I have been watching this Dingle story for a couple of years. And I saw
> the Japanese story a few weeks ago.
>
> >From everything I can read, the story deserves 'suspended disbelief'. I
> remain highly sceptical ("perpetual motion" and "cold fusion") but
> watchful and ready to be proven wrong when I see a car actually running
> on and fueled by water; confirmed by reputable engineering and
> scientific third parties. A large investment by a major car manufacturer
> would certainly make the story more plausible.
>
William, I checked around that japanese water car and some reporters
believe [1] that this japanese car is nothing special. It seams that
is uses some sort of catalyst that is used during the driving and
needs to be replaced from time to time.
If they make a cheap and ecological catalyst that would be a
revolution. We would get a green eco-friendly car and that is cheap to
drive.
Still "Joe Cell" [2] seams not to be investigated by real scientists, too bad :(
[1]
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/06/genepax-water-powered-car-japan-debunking.php
[2] http://www.thejoecell.com/
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Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)
Ric Moore wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 18:44 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: Yeah, exactly. And if you buy in the next 4 hours, we'll include a fantastic solar powered clothes dryer. Careful - there are sound useful reasons for solar powered clothes driers that go via electricity or steam first. Jeeez, Alan. I'm impressed that you know that steam is a major source for heating industrial dryers! Tip O' The Wayward4now Hat! Ric p/s hot oil is more popular nowadays. Solar power dryer: http://www.annekimberly.com/clothesline%20color%205x7l.jpg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
