Re: kernel: unable to enumerate USB device on port

2009-06-29 Thread Renich Bon Ciric
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Peter Boyp...@barkhof.uni-bremen.de wrote:
 There are several entries in bugzilla. The causes are not definitely
 determined yet. Have a look at the bug entries.


 PB

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Re: kernel: unable to enumerate USB device on port

2009-06-28 Thread Peter Boy
Am Mittwoch, den 24.06.2009, 23:07 -0500 schrieb Renich Bon Ciric:
 I've got tons of these and unlimited resource too...
 Jun 24 23:05:12 introdesk kernel: hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB
 device on port 2
 
 Any idea of what is causing this?
 Is it a know bug?

There are several entries in bugzilla. The causes are not definitely
determined yet. Have a look at the bug entries.


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kernel: unable to enumerate USB device on port

2009-06-24 Thread Renich Bon Ciric
I've got tons of these and unlimited resource too...
Jun 24 23:05:12 introdesk kernel: hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB
device on port 2

Any idea of what is causing this?
Is it a know bug?

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Re: unable to enumerate USB device

2009-01-19 Thread Jim

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

Jim wrote:
  

To get a hub to work with all devices, hubs must have their own power
source externally.
Hubs that get there power source from the computer are the ones that
give you problems, because of voltage drop across the cable to computer.



Considering the amount of current we are talking about, I do not
think voltage drop is a problem. On the other hand, with a bus
powered hub, all the devices, plus the hub itself, are limited to
the max current of the port you are plugged into. A limit of
500ma/port is common, but it could be less.

Voltage drop = current x resistance
.5v = 500ma x 1 ohms.

Mikkel
  
I have had a number of bad experiences with bus powered hub, devices 
that would not work in hub I plugged directly to
computer and they work fine, so i purchased external powered hubs and 
have had no more problems
As far as the voltage drop goes it depends a lot on how the USB device 
was designed as to how much current it's going to draw. I'm quite 
familiar with OHMS Law.


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Re: unable to enumerate USB device

2009-01-19 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Jim wrote:
 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Jim wrote:
  
 To get a hub to work with all devices, hubs must have their own power
 source externally.
 Hubs that get there power source from the computer are the ones that
 give you problems, because of voltage drop across the cable to computer.

 
 Considering the amount of current we are talking about, I do not
 think voltage drop is a problem. On the other hand, with a bus
 powered hub, all the devices, plus the hub itself, are limited to
 the max current of the port you are plugged into. A limit of
 500ma/port is common, but it could be less.

 Voltage drop = current x resistance
 .5v = 500ma x 1 ohms.

 Mikkel
   
 I have had a number of bad experiences with bus powered hub, devices
 that would not work in hub I plugged directly to
 computer and they work fine, so i purchased external powered hubs and
 have had no more problems
 As far as the voltage drop goes it depends a lot on how the USB device
 was designed as to how much current it's going to draw. I'm quite
 familiar with OHMS Law.
 
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But the voltage drop, when you get one, is not caused by the cable.
There is not enough resistance in the cable to cause this. You run
into capacitance problems degrading the signal long before you get
enough resistance to matter.

On the other hand, there is a current limit in the USB driver
circuitry. If you try and exceed this, you may get voltage drop, or
the port may shut off. I remember a discussion a while back about
the USB drivers in Linux enforcing the port limits while Windows
didn't, so devices that would work in Windows wouldn't work in Linux
when plugged in the same way. Linux was shutting down the port. Each
USB device is supposed to report the maximum power requirements as
part of its ID response. (USB powered devices like lights and fans
don't report anything...)

The reason bus powered hubs don't work with a lot of devices is that
you have to share the bus power from the computer with all the
devices plugged in, as well as the hub itself. All it takes is one
high load device to max out the port the hub is plugged into. This
is why self powered hubs are preferred.

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Re: unable to enumerate USB device

2009-01-18 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Jim wrote:
 To get a hub to work with all devices, hubs must have their own power
 source externally.
 Hubs that get there power source from the computer are the ones that
 give you problems, because of voltage drop across the cable to computer.
 
Considering the amount of current we are talking about, I do not
think voltage drop is a problem. On the other hand, with a bus
powered hub, all the devices, plus the hub itself, are limited to
the max current of the port you are plugged into. A limit of
500ma/port is common, but it could be less.

Voltage drop = current x resistance
.5v = 500ma x 1 ohms.

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Re: unable to enumerate USB device

2009-01-18 Thread suvayu ali
2009/1/14 jack wallen jlwal...@monkeypantz.net:
 Jan 14 17:17:16 localhost kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB
 device on port 7


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446845

maybe this is relevant?

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Re: unable to enumerate USB device

2009-01-16 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:14 -0500, Jim wrote:
 Hubs that get there power source from the computer are the ones that 
 give you problems, because of voltage drop across the cable to
 computer.

Not just the potential of that happening, but the host mayn't be able to
supply the amount of current desired (not a voltage drop, per se, but a
supply issue - if the host was only designed to supply so much, then
that's all it's going to give).  Whereas a powered hub has its own
specifications, which may support more power.

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Re: unable to enumerate USB device

2009-01-15 Thread Robin Laing

jack wallen wrote:

After an update (fedora 10) none of my USB devices are recognized. This
is what i get from dmesg:

Jan 14 17:17:13 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 20
Jan 14 17:17:13 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: device descriptor read/64,
error -62
Jan 14 17:17:14 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: device descriptor read/64,
error -62
Jan 14 17:17:14 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 21
Jan 14 17:17:14 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: device descriptor read/64,
error -62
Jan 14 17:17:14 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: device descriptor read/64,
error -62
Jan 14 17:17:15 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 22
Jan 14 17:17:15 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: device not accepting address
22, error -62
Jan 14 17:17:15 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 23
Jan 14 17:17:16 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: device not accepting address
23, error -62
Jan 14 17:17:16 localhost kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB
device on port 7

I have googled the issue but am only finding instances where this causes
issue with booting but not an inability to mount usb devices. 


Can anyone shed any light on this issue?

Thank you.

jack



Have you tried to plug directly into the computer?  Front and back 
connectors?


I have a few devices that don't want to work through a hub.  Just 
something to test.



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unable to enumerate USB device

2009-01-14 Thread jack wallen
After an update (fedora 10) none of my USB devices are recognized. This
is what i get from dmesg:

Jan 14 17:17:13 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 20
Jan 14 17:17:13 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: device descriptor read/64,
error -62
Jan 14 17:17:14 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: device descriptor read/64,
error -62
Jan 14 17:17:14 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 21
Jan 14 17:17:14 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: device descriptor read/64,
error -62
Jan 14 17:17:14 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: device descriptor read/64,
error -62
Jan 14 17:17:15 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 22
Jan 14 17:17:15 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: device not accepting address
22, error -62
Jan 14 17:17:15 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 23
Jan 14 17:17:16 localhost kernel: usb 1-7: device not accepting address
23, error -62
Jan 14 17:17:16 localhost kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB
device on port 7

I have googled the issue but am only finding instances where this causes
issue with booting but not an inability to mount usb devices. 

Can anyone shed any light on this issue?

Thank you.

jack

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unable to enumerate USB device

2008-07-29 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

I am getting strange messages in the logs:

hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 5
hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6
hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4

Everything works fine, but I would like to know what causes them. 
According to what I found on Google, I can safely ignore them.


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Re: unable to enumerate USB device

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:37:36 -0500
Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Everything works fine, but I would like to know what causes them. 
 According to what I found on Google, I can safely ignore them.

As near as I can tell from my googling, they are warning messages
from code that got carried away and warning about things it shouldn't
have been warning about - things that weren't errors at all. Supposedly
there is already a patch that will make them go away, but I guess
it hasn't worked its way through to the fedora kernels yet.

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Re: unable to enumerate USB device

2008-07-29 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 11:37 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 I am getting strange messages in the logs:

Just the once, when you boot up?

 hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 5
 hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6
 hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4

 Everything works fine, but I would like to know what causes them. 
 According to what I found on Google, I can safely ignore them.

If it's only as you boot up, you can probably ignore them.  I get the
same, and it's my computer not working out what to do with the mouse,
keyboard,  built-in trackpad, etc., as it boots.  Yet they all work
fine a bit later on.

Fedora 9 seems a bit flighty with devices.  They don't just get
discovered and work, it gets in a tizzy about things not working the
instant it notices them, then they work a few more moments later.

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Re: unable to enumerate USB device

2008-07-29 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

Tim wrote:


If it's only as you boot up, you can probably ignore them.  I get the
same, and it's my computer not working out what to do with the mouse,
keyboard,  built-in trackpad, etc., as it boots.  Yet they all work
fine a bit later on.

Fedora 9 seems a bit flighty with devices.  They don't just get
discovered and work, it gets in a tizzy about things not working the
instant it notices them, then they work a few more moments later.

This is still an F8 machine. I get them both at bootup, and 
sometimes when I plug in a new USB device.


Jul 29 12:03:20 mikkel kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB 
device on port 6
Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: new full speed USB device 
using ohci_hcd and address 13
Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: configuration #1 chosen from 
1 choice
Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: New USB device found, 
idVendor=0830, idProduct=0050
Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: New USB device strings: 
Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=

Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: Product: Palm Handheld
Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc.
Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: SerialNumber: PalmSN12345678
Jul 29 12:04:33 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 13

Taking a deeper look at things, I noticed that hub 1 is a version 
2.0 hub, and hub 4 is a version 1.10 hub. These are both internal 
hubs, so I wounder if they are using the same socket? Could it be 
that the high speed hub (v2.0) tries to talk to the device, and when 
it can not, it hands it off to the full speed hub (v1.10)?


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Re: unable to enumerate USB device

2008-07-29 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 12:35 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 This is still an F8 machine. I get them both at bootup, and 
 sometimes when I plug in a new USB device.

I haven't tried 8, I skipped from 7 to 9.

 Jul 29 12:03:20 mikkel kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on 
 port 6
 Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: new full speed USB device using 
 ohci_hcd and address 13
 Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
 Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0830, 
 idProduct=0050
 Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, 
 Product=2, SerialNumber=
 Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: Product: Palm Handheld
 Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc.
 Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: SerialNumber: PalmSN12345678
 Jul 29 12:04:33 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 13
 
 Taking a deeper look at things, I noticed that hub 1 is a version 
 2.0 hub, and hub 4 is a version 1.10 hub. These are both internal 
 hubs, so I wounder if they are using the same socket? Could it be 
 that the high speed hub (v2.0) tries to talk to the device, and when 
 it can not, it hands it off to the full speed hub (v1.10)?

USB starts off with version 1, at the slowest speed (the lowest common
denominator), then sees if it can shift up speeds and to using version
2.  This appears as the host device changing from 1 to 2, not just the
thing plugged into it.

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