Re: [SOLVED] Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-16 Thread Bill Davidsen

Craig White wrote:

On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 16:05 +0100, psmith wrote:

I now have virtual scrolling/panning on my 1024x600 screen to 1280x1024
whether or not an external display is connected to the VGA port.

Link here...
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Acer_Aspire_One#xorg.conf

Oh - this is with Fedora-11-Beta (and current updates) because I believe
the xserver 1.6 and xrandr 1.3 versions are needed to make it work.

Craig


  

nice work craig!, good to see you finally got it working 8-)


thanks Phil - I think that anyone with an Acer Aspire One will
definitely want this info and Fedora 11 rocks. Breaking the limitations
of the 1024x600 window is a very important detail.

In another sense, this is valuable because users can now run the physical 
display in a lower resolution and use panning to still have the area they need 
for a reasonable root window.


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Re: [SOLVED] Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-11 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 16:05 +0100, psmith wrote:
> >
> > I now have virtual scrolling/panning on my 1024x600 screen to 1280x1024
> > whether or not an external display is connected to the VGA port.
> >
> > Link here...
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Acer_Aspire_One#xorg.conf
> >
> > Oh - this is with Fedora-11-Beta (and current updates) because I believe
> > the xserver 1.6 and xrandr 1.3 versions are needed to make it work.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >   
> nice work craig!, good to see you finally got it working 8-)

thanks Phil - I think that anyone with an Acer Aspire One will
definitely want this info and Fedora 11 rocks. Breaking the limitations
of the 1024x600 window is a very important detail.

Craig


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Re: [SOLVED] Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-11 Thread psmith

Craig White wrote:

On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:01 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
  

2009/4/10 Craig White :


On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
  

2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J :


2009/4/10 Craig White :
  

I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a
way that makes them answer but the idea is...

Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!)

If I manually execute the command...
xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024

I sort of get what I want...well, the background is tiled but my tiny
1024x600 screen becomes usable with panning and I can't understand why I
can't achieve this simply with xorg.conf.

Can anyone see what changes I need to make?




I know very little about this but I was keeping an eye on it for my eeePC 701.

The changelog for Xorg 1.5.99 says:

Matthias Hopf (5):
 randr: Add monitor option "Panning" for initial panning configuration

So that says to me that somewhere in your Xorg.conf Monitor section
you should have a Panning keyword - which you don't have.

Looks like you'll have to dig around in Google though as I haven't
seen any easy source of information about it,
  

Or you could look at the code:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=panning-for-server-1.6&id=44b89dc0a5aa23df69539754fb76c67c310530db

Looks to me like:

Section "Monitor"

 Panning   1280x1024
EndSection

might do it...



death - death I say...

Parse error on line 44 of section Monitor in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
   "Panning" is not a valid keyword in this section.
  

Have you tried:

Option "Panning" "1280x1024"

If you download the src.rpm for Xorg in F11b, Panning is definitely in
hw/xfree86/modes/xf86Crtc.c ... so it /should/ work...



Victory!

I now have virtual scrolling/panning on my 1024x600 screen to 1280x1024
whether or not an external display is connected to the VGA port.

thanks Sam - you inspired me to keep trying.

Turned out that it finally did work but what made it work was adding
back the second Monitor and Screen sections so I could have both my LVDS
and VGA screens and I gather that the larger size of the VGA is what
made it all work.

I have put this info on the Acer Aspire One page on Fedora Wiki for
anyone who is interested and it should provide a really good guide for
Sam's Asus eepro (obviously adjust for the built-in video and external
VGA display).

Link here...
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Acer_Aspire_One#xorg.conf

Oh - this is with Fedora-11-Beta (and current updates) because I believe
the xserver 1.6 and xrandr 1.3 versions are needed to make it work.

Craig


  

nice work craig!, good to see you finally got it working 8-)

phil

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[SOLVED] Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:01 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> 2009/4/10 Craig White :
> > On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> >> 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J :
> >> > 2009/4/10 Craig White :
> >> >> I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a
> >> >> way that makes them answer but the idea is...
> >> >>
> >> >> Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!)
> >> >>
> >> >> If I manually execute the command...
> >> >> xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024
> >> >>
> >> >> I sort of get what I want...well, the background is tiled but my tiny
> >> >> 1024x600 screen becomes usable with panning and I can't understand why I
> >> >> can't achieve this simply with xorg.conf.
> >> >>
> >> >> Can anyone see what changes I need to make?
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> > I know very little about this but I was keeping an eye on it for my 
> >> > eeePC 701.
> >> >
> >> > The changelog for Xorg 1.5.99 says:
> >> >
> >> > Matthias Hopf (5):
> >> >  randr: Add monitor option "Panning" for initial panning 
> >> > configuration
> >> >
> >> > So that says to me that somewhere in your Xorg.conf Monitor section
> >> > you should have a Panning keyword - which you don't have.
> >> >
> >> > Looks like you'll have to dig around in Google though as I haven't
> >> > seen any easy source of information about it,
> >>
> >> Or you could look at the code:
> >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=panning-for-server-1.6&id=44b89dc0a5aa23df69539754fb76c67c310530db
> >>
> >> Looks to me like:
> >>
> >> Section "Monitor"
> >> 
> >>  Panning   1280x1024
> >> EndSection
> >>
> >> might do it...
> > 
> > death - death I say...
> >
> > Parse error on line 44 of section Monitor in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> >"Panning" is not a valid keyword in this section.
> 
> Have you tried:
> 
> Option "Panning" "1280x1024"
> 
> If you download the src.rpm for Xorg in F11b, Panning is definitely in
> hw/xfree86/modes/xf86Crtc.c ... so it /should/ work...

Victory!

I now have virtual scrolling/panning on my 1024x600 screen to 1280x1024
whether or not an external display is connected to the VGA port.

thanks Sam - you inspired me to keep trying.

Turned out that it finally did work but what made it work was adding
back the second Monitor and Screen sections so I could have both my LVDS
and VGA screens and I gather that the larger size of the VGA is what
made it all work.

I have put this info on the Acer Aspire One page on Fedora Wiki for
anyone who is interested and it should provide a really good guide for
Sam's Asus eepro (obviously adjust for the built-in video and external
VGA display).

Link here...
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Acer_Aspire_One#xorg.conf

Oh - this is with Fedora-11-Beta (and current updates) because I believe
the xserver 1.6 and xrandr 1.3 versions are needed to make it work.

Craig


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Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 psmith :
> where's ajax when he's really needed?

1 - Scrubbing floors?
2 - Fighting Trojans?
3 - Playing Football?

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Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread psmith

Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

2009/4/10 Craig White :
  

On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:01 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:


2009/4/10 Craig White :
  

On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:


2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J :
  

2009/4/10 Craig White :


I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a
way that makes them answer but the idea is...

Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!)

If I manually execute the command...
xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024

I sort of get what I want...well, the background is tiled but my tiny
1024x600 screen becomes usable with panning and I can't understand why I
can't achieve this simply with xorg.conf.

Can anyone see what changes I need to make?
  



I know very little about this but I was keeping an eye on it for my eeePC 701.

The changelog for Xorg 1.5.99 says:

Matthias Hopf (5):
� � �randr: Add monitor option "Panning" for initial panning configuration

So that says to me that somewhere in your Xorg.conf Monitor section
you should have a Panning keyword - which you don't have.

Looks like you'll have to dig around in Google though as I haven't
seen any easy source of information about it,


Or you could look at the code:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=panning-for-server-1.6&id=44b89dc0a5aa23df69539754fb76c67c310530db

Looks to me like:

Section "Monitor"

� � �Panning � � � 1280x1024
EndSection

might do it...
  


death - death I say...

Parse error on line 44 of section Monitor in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
� � � �"Panning" is not a valid keyword in this section.


Have you tried:

Option "Panning" "1280x1024"

If you download the src.rpm for Xorg in F11b, Panning is definitely in
hw/xfree86/modes/xf86Crtc.c ... so it /should/ work...

  


In 'Monitor' section...it seems to be ignored.

# grep Panning /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(**) intel(0): Option "Panning" "1280x1024"
(WW) intel(0): Option "Panning" is not used

In 'Display' subsection of 'Screen' instead, likewise

# grep Panning /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(WW) intel(0): Option "Panning" is not used

It may not be compatible with one of the modules that I asserted but
X.org.0.log doesn't suggest that to be the problem.



Oh well, at least you've got some extra info to go back to bothering
the Xorg guys with ;o)

  

where's ajax when he's really needed?

phil

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Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 Craig White :
> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:23 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>> 2009/4/10 Craig White :
>> > On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:01 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>> >> 2009/4/10 Craig White :
>> >> > On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>> >> >> 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J :
>> >> >> > 2009/4/10 Craig White :
>> >> >> >> I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask 
>> >> >> >> in a
>> >> >> >> way that makes them answer but the idea is...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If I manually execute the command...
>> >> >> >> xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I sort of get what I want...well, the background is tiled but my 
>> >> >> >> tiny
>> >> >> >> 1024x600 screen becomes usable with panning and I can't understand 
>> >> >> >> why I
>> >> >> >> can't achieve this simply with xorg.conf.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Can anyone see what changes I need to make?
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I know very little about this but I was keeping an eye on it for my 
>> >> >> > eeePC 701.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The changelog for Xorg 1.5.99 says:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Matthias Hopf (5):
>> >> >> >      randr: Add monitor option "Panning" for initial panning 
>> >> >> > configuration
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So that says to me that somewhere in your Xorg.conf Monitor section
>> >> >> > you should have a Panning keyword - which you don't have.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Looks like you'll have to dig around in Google though as I haven't
>> >> >> > seen any easy source of information about it,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Or you could look at the code:
>> >> >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=panning-for-server-1.6&id=44b89dc0a5aa23df69539754fb76c67c310530db
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Looks to me like:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Section "Monitor"
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>      Panning       1280x1024
>> >> >> EndSection
>> >> >>
>> >> >> might do it...
>> >> > 
>> >> > death - death I say...
>> >> >
>> >> > Parse error on line 44 of section Monitor in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>> >> >        "Panning" is not a valid keyword in this section.
>> >>
>> >> Have you tried:
>> >>
>> >> Option "Panning" "1280x1024"
>> >>
>> >> If you download the src.rpm for Xorg in F11b, Panning is definitely in
>> >> hw/xfree86/modes/xf86Crtc.c ... so it /should/ work...
>> >>
>> > 
>> > In 'Monitor' section...it seems to be ignored.
>> >
>> > # grep Panning /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>> > (**) intel(0): Option "Panning" "1280x1024"
>> > (WW) intel(0): Option "Panning" is not used
>> >
>> > In 'Display' subsection of 'Screen' instead, likewise
>> >
>> > # grep Panning /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>> > (WW) intel(0): Option "Panning" is not used
>> >
>> > It may not be compatible with one of the modules that I asserted but
>> > X.org.0.log doesn't suggest that to be the problem.
>>
>> Oh well, at least you've got some extra info to go back to bothering
>> the Xorg guys with ;o)
> 
> I see what you're saying and I'm doubting that the committed code from
> December has actually made it into the 1.6 version of xserver in
> Fedora-11-Beta. I'm not using the lack of mention in the man page
> because that kind of thing can often be overlooked.

It definitely did make it. I checked the source RPM for f11b [1] -
it's definitely in the included tarball [2], so unless one of the
later patches takes it out (I did grep for OPTION_PANNING in the
entire SOURCES directory) it is there. I think I'm just clueless on
how to use it - or possibly it's not finished.

> As for xorg guys...I've sent 3 e-mails to the xorg list and all I get is
> crickets.

Oh well, Cricket's never been my thing. Rugby is better.

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[1] 
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/11-Beta/Fedora/source/SRPMS/xorg-x11-server-1.6.0-13.fc11.src.rpm
[2] $ grep OPTION_PANNING xorg-server-1.6.0/hw/xfree86/modes/xf86Crtc.c
OPTION_PANNING,
{OPTION_PANNING,"Panning",  OPTV_STRING,  {0}, FALSE },
char   *panning = xf86GetOptValString (output->options, 
OPTION_PANNING);

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Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:23 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> 2009/4/10 Craig White :
> > On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:01 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> >> 2009/4/10 Craig White :
> >> > On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> >> >> 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J :
> >> >> > 2009/4/10 Craig White :
> >> >> >> I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in 
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> way that makes them answer but the idea is...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If I manually execute the command...
> >> >> >> xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I sort of get what I want...well, the background is tiled but my tiny
> >> >> >> 1024x600 screen becomes usable with panning and I can't understand 
> >> >> >> why I
> >> >> >> can't achieve this simply with xorg.conf.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Can anyone see what changes I need to make?
> >> >> > 
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I know very little about this but I was keeping an eye on it for my 
> >> >> > eeePC 701.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The changelog for Xorg 1.5.99 says:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Matthias Hopf (5):
> >> >> >  randr: Add monitor option "Panning" for initial panning 
> >> >> > configuration
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So that says to me that somewhere in your Xorg.conf Monitor section
> >> >> > you should have a Panning keyword - which you don't have.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Looks like you'll have to dig around in Google though as I haven't
> >> >> > seen any easy source of information about it,
> >> >>
> >> >> Or you could look at the code:
> >> >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=panning-for-server-1.6&id=44b89dc0a5aa23df69539754fb76c67c310530db
> >> >>
> >> >> Looks to me like:
> >> >>
> >> >> Section "Monitor"
> >> >> 
> >> >>  Panning   1280x1024
> >> >> EndSection
> >> >>
> >> >> might do it...
> >> > 
> >> > death - death I say...
> >> >
> >> > Parse error on line 44 of section Monitor in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> >> >"Panning" is not a valid keyword in this section.
> >>
> >> Have you tried:
> >>
> >> Option "Panning" "1280x1024"
> >>
> >> If you download the src.rpm for Xorg in F11b, Panning is definitely in
> >> hw/xfree86/modes/xf86Crtc.c ... so it /should/ work...
> >>
> > 
> > In 'Monitor' section...it seems to be ignored.
> >
> > # grep Panning /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> > (**) intel(0): Option "Panning" "1280x1024"
> > (WW) intel(0): Option "Panning" is not used
> >
> > In 'Display' subsection of 'Screen' instead, likewise
> >
> > # grep Panning /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> > (WW) intel(0): Option "Panning" is not used
> >
> > It may not be compatible with one of the modules that I asserted but
> > X.org.0.log doesn't suggest that to be the problem.
> 
> Oh well, at least you've got some extra info to go back to bothering
> the Xorg guys with ;o)

I see what you're saying and I'm doubting that the committed code from
December has actually made it into the 1.6 version of xserver in
Fedora-11-Beta. I'm not using the lack of mention in the man page
because that kind of thing can often be overlooked.

As for xorg guys...I've sent 3 e-mails to the xorg list and all I get is
crickets.

Thanks

Craig


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Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 Craig White :
> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:01 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>> 2009/4/10 Craig White :
>> > On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>> >> 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J :
>> >> > 2009/4/10 Craig White :
>> >> >> I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a
>> >> >> way that makes them answer but the idea is...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If I manually execute the command...
>> >> >> xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I sort of get what I want...well, the background is tiled but my tiny
>> >> >> 1024x600 screen becomes usable with panning and I can't understand why 
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> can't achieve this simply with xorg.conf.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can anyone see what changes I need to make?
>> >> > 
>> >> >
>> >> > I know very little about this but I was keeping an eye on it for my 
>> >> > eeePC 701.
>> >> >
>> >> > The changelog for Xorg 1.5.99 says:
>> >> >
>> >> > Matthias Hopf (5):
>> >> >      randr: Add monitor option "Panning" for initial panning 
>> >> > configuration
>> >> >
>> >> > So that says to me that somewhere in your Xorg.conf Monitor section
>> >> > you should have a Panning keyword - which you don't have.
>> >> >
>> >> > Looks like you'll have to dig around in Google though as I haven't
>> >> > seen any easy source of information about it,
>> >>
>> >> Or you could look at the code:
>> >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=panning-for-server-1.6&id=44b89dc0a5aa23df69539754fb76c67c310530db
>> >>
>> >> Looks to me like:
>> >>
>> >> Section "Monitor"
>> >> 
>> >>      Panning       1280x1024
>> >> EndSection
>> >>
>> >> might do it...
>> > 
>> > death - death I say...
>> >
>> > Parse error on line 44 of section Monitor in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>> >        "Panning" is not a valid keyword in this section.
>>
>> Have you tried:
>>
>> Option "Panning" "1280x1024"
>>
>> If you download the src.rpm for Xorg in F11b, Panning is definitely in
>> hw/xfree86/modes/xf86Crtc.c ... so it /should/ work...
>>
> 
> In 'Monitor' section...it seems to be ignored.
>
> # grep Panning /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> (**) intel(0): Option "Panning" "1280x1024"
> (WW) intel(0): Option "Panning" is not used
>
> In 'Display' subsection of 'Screen' instead, likewise
>
> # grep Panning /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> (WW) intel(0): Option "Panning" is not used
>
> It may not be compatible with one of the modules that I asserted but
> X.org.0.log doesn't suggest that to be the problem.

Oh well, at least you've got some extra info to go back to bothering
the Xorg guys with ;o)

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Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:01 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> 2009/4/10 Craig White :
> > On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> >> 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J :
> >> > 2009/4/10 Craig White :
> >> >> I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a
> >> >> way that makes them answer but the idea is...
> >> >>
> >> >> Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!)
> >> >>
> >> >> If I manually execute the command...
> >> >> xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024
> >> >>
> >> >> I sort of get what I want...well, the background is tiled but my tiny
> >> >> 1024x600 screen becomes usable with panning and I can't understand why I
> >> >> can't achieve this simply with xorg.conf.
> >> >>
> >> >> Can anyone see what changes I need to make?
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> > I know very little about this but I was keeping an eye on it for my 
> >> > eeePC 701.
> >> >
> >> > The changelog for Xorg 1.5.99 says:
> >> >
> >> > Matthias Hopf (5):
> >> >  randr: Add monitor option "Panning" for initial panning 
> >> > configuration
> >> >
> >> > So that says to me that somewhere in your Xorg.conf Monitor section
> >> > you should have a Panning keyword - which you don't have.
> >> >
> >> > Looks like you'll have to dig around in Google though as I haven't
> >> > seen any easy source of information about it,
> >>
> >> Or you could look at the code:
> >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=panning-for-server-1.6&id=44b89dc0a5aa23df69539754fb76c67c310530db
> >>
> >> Looks to me like:
> >>
> >> Section "Monitor"
> >> 
> >>  Panning   1280x1024
> >> EndSection
> >>
> >> might do it...
> > 
> > death - death I say...
> >
> > Parse error on line 44 of section Monitor in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> >"Panning" is not a valid keyword in this section.
> 
> Have you tried:
> 
> Option "Panning" "1280x1024"
> 
> If you download the src.rpm for Xorg in F11b, Panning is definitely in
> hw/xfree86/modes/xf86Crtc.c ... so it /should/ work...
> 

In 'Monitor' section...it seems to be ignored.

# grep Panning /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(**) intel(0): Option "Panning" "1280x1024"
(WW) intel(0): Option "Panning" is not used

In 'Display' subsection of 'Screen' instead, likewise

# grep Panning /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(WW) intel(0): Option "Panning" is not used

It may not be compatible with one of the modules that I asserted but
X.org.0.log doesn't suggest that to be the problem.

Craig


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Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 Craig White :
> On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>> 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J :
>> > 2009/4/10 Craig White :
>> >> I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a
>> >> way that makes them answer but the idea is...
>> >>
>> >> Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!)
>> >>
>> >> If I manually execute the command...
>> >> xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024
>> >>
>> >> I sort of get what I want...well, the background is tiled but my tiny
>> >> 1024x600 screen becomes usable with panning and I can't understand why I
>> >> can't achieve this simply with xorg.conf.
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone see what changes I need to make?
>> > 
>> >
>> > I know very little about this but I was keeping an eye on it for my eeePC 
>> > 701.
>> >
>> > The changelog for Xorg 1.5.99 says:
>> >
>> > Matthias Hopf (5):
>> >      randr: Add monitor option "Panning" for initial panning configuration
>> >
>> > So that says to me that somewhere in your Xorg.conf Monitor section
>> > you should have a Panning keyword - which you don't have.
>> >
>> > Looks like you'll have to dig around in Google though as I haven't
>> > seen any easy source of information about it,
>>
>> Or you could look at the code:
>> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=panning-for-server-1.6&id=44b89dc0a5aa23df69539754fb76c67c310530db
>>
>> Looks to me like:
>>
>> Section "Monitor"
>> 
>>      Panning       1280x1024
>> EndSection
>>
>> might do it...
> 
> death - death I say...
>
> Parse error on line 44 of section Monitor in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>        "Panning" is not a valid keyword in this section.

Have you tried:

Option "Panning" "1280x1024"

If you download the src.rpm for Xorg in F11b, Panning is definitely in
hw/xfree86/modes/xf86Crtc.c ... so it /should/ work...

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Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J :
> > 2009/4/10 Craig White :
> >> I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a
> >> way that makes them answer but the idea is...
> >>
> >> Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!)
> >>
> >> If I manually execute the command...
> >> xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024
> >>
> >> I sort of get what I want...well, the background is tiled but my tiny
> >> 1024x600 screen becomes usable with panning and I can't understand why I
> >> can't achieve this simply with xorg.conf.
> >>
> >> Can anyone see what changes I need to make?
> > 
> >
> > I know very little about this but I was keeping an eye on it for my eeePC 
> > 701.
> >
> > The changelog for Xorg 1.5.99 says:
> >
> > Matthias Hopf (5):
> >  randr: Add monitor option "Panning" for initial panning configuration
> >
> > So that says to me that somewhere in your Xorg.conf Monitor section
> > you should have a Panning keyword - which you don't have.
> >
> > Looks like you'll have to dig around in Google though as I haven't
> > seen any easy source of information about it,
> 
> Or you could look at the code:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=panning-for-server-1.6&id=44b89dc0a5aa23df69539754fb76c67c310530db
> 
> Looks to me like:
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> 
>  Panning   1280x1024
> EndSection
> 
> might do it...

death - death I say...

Parse error on line 44 of section Monitor in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
"Panning" is not a valid keyword in this section.

nope - no workee - it's an X killer, and in the man page for xorg.conf
on Fedora-11-Beta (x-server 1.6), there is absolutely no mention of
Panning at all.

FWIW - you should be able to make 'panning' work via xrandr on your Asus
with what I gave you above (adjust for the name of your display) and I
suppose I could probably add the panning command to a startup script
after login but it seems neater/cleaner/ and an end to the regression
that I could accomplish so easily on Fedora Core 4.

Thanks

Craig


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Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J :
> 2009/4/10 Craig White :
>> I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a
>> way that makes them answer but the idea is...
>>
>> Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!)
>>
>> If I manually execute the command...
>> xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024
>>
>> I sort of get what I want...well, the background is tiled but my tiny
>> 1024x600 screen becomes usable with panning and I can't understand why I
>> can't achieve this simply with xorg.conf.
>>
>> Can anyone see what changes I need to make?
> 
>
> I know very little about this but I was keeping an eye on it for my eeePC 701.
>
> The changelog for Xorg 1.5.99 says:
>
> Matthias Hopf (5):
>      randr: Add monitor option "Panning" for initial panning configuration
>
> So that says to me that somewhere in your Xorg.conf Monitor section
> you should have a Panning keyword - which you don't have.
>
> Looks like you'll have to dig around in Google though as I haven't
> seen any easy source of information about it,

Or you could look at the code:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=panning-for-server-1.6&id=44b89dc0a5aa23df69539754fb76c67c310530db

Looks to me like:

Section "Monitor"

 Panning   1280x1024
EndSection

might do it...
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Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 Craig White :
> I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a
> way that makes them answer but the idea is...
>
> Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!)
>
> If I manually execute the command...
> xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024
>
> I sort of get what I want...well, the background is tiled but my tiny
> 1024x600 screen becomes usable with panning and I can't understand why I
> can't achieve this simply with xorg.conf.
>
> Can anyone see what changes I need to make?


I know very little about this but I was keeping an eye on it for my eeePC 701.

The changelog for Xorg 1.5.99 says:

Matthias Hopf (5):
  randr: Add monitor option "Panning" for initial panning configuration

So that says to me that somewhere in your Xorg.conf Monitor section
you should have a Panning keyword - which you don't have.

Looks like you'll have to dig around in Google though as I haven't
seen any easy source of information about it,

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xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Craig White
I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a
way that makes them answer but the idea is...

Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!)

If I manually execute the command...
xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024

I sort of get what I want...well, the background is tiled but my tiny
1024x600 screen becomes usable with panning and I can't understand why I
can't achieve this simply with xorg.conf.

Can anyone see what changes I need to make?

xorg.conf looks like this...(some clippage)
Section "ServerLayout" 
   Identifier "X.org Configured"  
   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0   
   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection   

Section "Files"
   ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
   FontPath "catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d"
   FontPath "built-ins"
EndSection  

Section "Module"
   Load  "dbe"
   Load  "extmod"
   Load  "dri"   
   Load  "dri2"  
   Load  "record"
   Load  "glx"   
EndSection

Section
"Monitor"   
 
   Identifier   "Monitor0"
   ModelName"LCD Panel 1280x1024" 
   Modeline "1024×600" 48.96 1024 1064 1168 1312 600 601 604 622 \
-HSync +VSync
EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Card0"
   Driver  "intel"
   VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
   BoardName   "Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller"
   BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device "Card0"
   Monitor"Monitor0"
   SubSection "Display"
   Viewport   0 0
   Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "1024x600"
   Depth 24
   Virtual   1280 1024
   EndSubSection
EndSection




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