[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Fedora in Numbers!
Hi Chitlesh!! In Brazil(Fedora Users) the most used confgurations are: Window decoration: Plastik Style: Plastik Icons: Crystal Colors: KDE Defatult This is the best configuration!!! The Fedora KDE defaults are very bad. ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Fedora in numbers, kde defaults in future Fedora releases
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For me it's nearly the same way. I've started with kde but realized shortly the gnome is the better one. for me kde is for the "kids" Am Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:00:46 +0200 schrieb "Francesco Ugolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've started my linux experience using kde but after few months i > realize that gnome is the best window manager becuase it is faster > than kde and more acessibile and less *dos like. > > 2006/9/27, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > > > > On 9/27/06, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> You betcha! (: > > >> > > >> Personally, I'm of the mind to go KISS (keep it simple, stupid) > > >> and recommend going with kde default > > >> crystal(icon)/plastik(widgets). > > > > > > It depends simple for whom ? > > > > I'm speaking in the context of look-n-feel, icons/widgets. > > > > > I don't think our KDE is "Simple" with : > > > - long Kmenu (2 menus which basically say the same thing, (e.g > > > Administration and Settings) > > > > Administration -> system administration. > > Settings -> User-specific preferences > > > > Not really the same thing, imo. > > > > Besides, placement of apps in the menus is not a "KDE" thing, it's > > controlled by the apps themselves via what > > Categories=... > > are listed in their .desktop files. > > > > > - software confusion, 2 or more software which do the same thing > > > (e.g kwrite, kate, kedit) > > > > Not *exactly* the same thing. Each has different target audiences > > with different feature-sets. > > > > > It's hard, as an ambassador to convince people that you might use > > > KDE with fedora. > > > A screenshot of fedora's Kmenu is enough to frighten any newbie. > > > > Regardless, imo, this discussion is quickly moving off-topic for > > fedora-marketing. Followup on fedora-list. > > > > -- Rex > > > > -- > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFGt35Fs/JPNR65YARAgWWAKClXz0F0OKLiXFKT7CqvlK2fp85ZQCgrOOF ONFPoJIFrX2aUYUzfyvOd+s= =b7Nn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Fedora in numbers, kde defaults in future Fedora releases
I've started my linux experience using kde but after few months i realize that gnome is the best window manager becuase it is faster than kde and more acessibile and less *dos like.2006/9/27, Rex Dieter < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 9/27/06, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> You betcha! (: Personally, I'm of the mind to go KISS (keep it simple, stupid) and >> recommend going with kde default crystal(icon)/plastik(widgets).>> It depends simple for whom ?I'm speaking in the context of look-n-feel, icons/widgets.> I don't think our KDE is "Simple" with : > - long Kmenu (2 menus which basically say the same thing, (e.g> Administration and Settings)Administration -> system administration.Settings -> User-specific preferencesNot really the same thing, imo. Besides, placement of apps in the menus is not a "KDE" thing, it'scontrolled by the apps themselves via whatCategories=...are listed in their .desktop files.> - software confusion, 2 or more software which do the same thing ( e.g> kwrite, kate, kedit)Not *exactly* the same thing. Each has different target audiences withdifferent feature-sets.> It's hard, as an ambassador to convince people that you might use KDE > with fedora.> A screenshot of fedora's Kmenu is enough to frighten any newbie.Regardless, imo, this discussion is quickly moving off-topic forfedora-marketing. Followup on fedora-list.-- Rex --Fedora-marketing-list mailing listFedora-marketing-list@redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Fedora in numbers, kde defaults in future Fedora releases
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 9/27/06, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You betcha! (: >> >> Personally, I'm of the mind to go KISS (keep it simple, stupid) and >> recommend going with kde default crystal(icon)/plastik(widgets). > > It depends simple for whom ? I'm speaking in the context of look-n-feel, icons/widgets. > I don't think our KDE is "Simple" with : > - long Kmenu (2 menus which basically say the same thing, (e.g > Administration and Settings) Administration -> system administration. Settings -> User-specific preferences Not really the same thing, imo. Besides, placement of apps in the menus is not a "KDE" thing, it's controlled by the apps themselves via what Categories=... are listed in their .desktop files. > - software confusion, 2 or more software which do the same thing (e.g > kwrite, kate, kedit) Not *exactly* the same thing. Each has different target audiences with different feature-sets. > It's hard, as an ambassador to convince people that you might use KDE > with fedora. > A screenshot of fedora's Kmenu is enough to frighten any newbie. Regardless, imo, this discussion is quickly moving off-topic for fedora-marketing. Followup on fedora-list. -- Rex -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora in numbers!!!
On 9/27/06, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You betcha! (: Personally, I'm of the mind to go KISS (keep it simple, stupid) and recommend going with kde default crystal(icon)/plastik(widgets). It depends simple for whom ? I don't think our KDE is "Simple" with : - long Kmenu (2 menus which basically say the same thing, (e.g Administration and Settings) - software confusion, 2 or more software which do the same thing (e.g kwrite, kate, kedit) Definitely, a newbie who wants to use KDE with fedora will have to spend more time to understand what is what in fedora's KDE. As an ambassador in Strasbourg, I've seen many former Mandriva users (kde), migrating to KUbuntu. If you say KUbuntu(with the default theme) is simple, I might agree. It's hard, as an ambassador to convince people that you might use KDE with fedora. A screenshot of fedora's Kmenu is enough to frighten any newbie. The question which must be taken into consideration is: Vista is coming out soon, Ubuntu(and KUbuntu) is making thing more simple with XGL. Fedora with KDE, how will it look like with aiglx ? Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora in numbers!!!
Rahul wrote: > Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >> On 9/27/06, Rahul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Theme for KDE? GNOME? both? Icons or Window manager? What are the other >>> alternatives recommended? >> >> >> I mean KDE. I've noticed no change of kde theme or icon sets since >> FC3, but gnome did have clearlooks and so on. >> >> Well, I think for alternatives we can have alook at what we have in FE >> already: >> tango-icon-theme >> kdeartwork-icons >> crystal > Suggest this as a RFE early soon after FC6 is released. I believe there > is a extras hand-off planned too. So there would be developer momentum > to do things that improve the KDE experience in Fedora. Jump on that > bandwagon and you should be able to get more things done. You betcha! (: Personally, I'm of the mind to go KISS (keep it simple, stupid) and recommend going with kde default crystal(icon)/plastik(widgets). -- Rex -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: false fedora mirror...
Nicola Losito wrote: Hi, i'm italian too, i'm not an NGI customer but i don't see the point in taking any action against them, because i don't think that excluding them from the mirrors list would make any difference for the better. It would be more efficient if yum didnt check for non accessible mirrors. So it indeed makes it better for end users. Maybe we could "advice" them to declare clearly that their mirror is only for they customers, as it is probably a plus to their customer and in this way thay are able to give them a better download experience ... We dont include mirrors in the mirror list unless they are publicly accessible and meet the bandwidth requirements. Rahul -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: false fedora mirror...
Il giorno 23/set/06, alle ore 18:27, Max Murdock ha scritto:I'd like to make you notice a thing, maybe you can't see it becauseyou're not Italian...I had to download the cd isos this week so I went to look for someitalian mirrors and I found that the one of ngi is RESTRICTED!...http://fedora.ngi.it/ redirects tohttp://gaming.ngi.it/mirror_maintenance/where you find this notice:"Dear user,our mirrors are currently available only for users connecting fromNGI's IP addresses."Currently? To me it's an excuse: it's been at least months of thissituation lasting...I took a look and discovered the same page just some months ago, but Ididn't write to you to report this. I'm doing it now to ask you tothink about and maybe reconsider their presence in Fedora mirrirs pagebecause actually theirs is NOT a mirror. It's not public as you cansee!Hi, i'm italian too, i'm not an NGI customer but i don't see the point in taking any action against them, because i don't think that excluding them from the mirrors list would make any difference for the better.Maybe we could "advice" them to declare clearly that their mirror is only for they customers, as it is probably a plus to their customer and in this way thay are able to give them a better download experience ...Just my 0,02€ -- Nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. Lositohttp://koolinus.wordpress.comITA => http://www.koolinus.net -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
