Re: Store SIG meeting reminder

[Benjamin Lewis]

On Wednesday 14 November 2007 02:14:48 am Max Spevack wrote:
> The Store SIG will have its first meeting on Wednesday at 18:00 GMT in
> #fedora-marketing.  We are going to try to set some goals, and at the
> end of the meeting I want us to have a target in mind of "what we want
> to achieve by December 4th, which is 3 weeks away.
>

My apologies in advance: I cannot make the meeting this week.



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Re: Tour of GNOME Online Desktop

[Amitakhya Phukan]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> Digg This:
>
> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Tour_of_GNOME_Online_Desktop
>
> http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/11/13/tour-of-gnome-online-desktop/
>
> "Here?s a tour of the pre-alpha demo release of GNOME Online Desktop
> included in Fedora 8"
>
> Rahul
>
one thing i would like to know is : is there any way, i can play with
the position of the side bar or more like can i make the side bar behave
like a panel or something. i would definitely like to see that as a
panel than a "side-bar". by default, GNOME comes with a top and bottom
panel. once i login using the online desktop, i have the bottom panel
only. i would definitely like to "move" this "side bar" to the top
panel. don't know what ideas are going into the development of this
entire project but "moving" the side bar should definitely be a welcome.
:-) and yes, i have minimised the side bar for now :-)

all in all, a good experience though.

regards,
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Re: Tour of GNOME Online Desktop

[Amitakhya Phukan]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> Digg This:
>
> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Tour_of_GNOME_Online_Desktop
>
> http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/11/13/tour-of-gnome-online-desktop/
>
> "Here?s a tour of the pre-alpha demo release of GNOME Online Desktop
> included in Fedora 8"
>
> Rahul
>
absolutely smashing!!

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Fedora 8: out of range

[Luya Tshimbalanga]

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15299/1090/

Apparently, the author has a problem with the onboard Nvidia 6100. There are
some mistake made like Fedora claiming to be the second distribution to feature
LiveCD. I let you comment on these.
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Tour of GNOME Online Desktop

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi


Digg This:

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Tour_of_GNOME_Online_Desktop

http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/11/13/tour-of-gnome-online-desktop/

"Here’s a tour of the pre-alpha demo release of GNOME Online Desktop 
included in Fedora 8"


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Fedora Linux 8 hits back at Ubuntu

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi

Digg it:

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_Linux_8_hits_back_at_Ubuntu

http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1049814461;fp;16;fpid;0

"The Red Hat-sponsored Fedora Linux project has released version 8 of 
its operating system with a host of new features aimed at raising the 
bar over rival Ubuntu. Fedora 8 release demonstrates an ongoing high 
level of development activity and strong user following"


Rahul

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Spinning a New Kind of Distro

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi


http://blog.linuxtoday.com/blog/archives/071113-111653.html

"While talking with Fedora Project Leader Max Spevack yesterday, I 
increasingly got the sense that Fedora is positioning itself for 
something bigger.


The key, I believe, is the spin management technology that was 
implemented in Fedora 7 and has now come to maturity in Fedora 8. Spins, 
in Fedora-parlance, are customized versions of Fedora that users can 
create using Fedora's on-board mixing/package management tools. Right 
now, besides the two official KDE and GNOME spins from Fedora, the 
Fedora Spin site is host to Electronic Lab, Games, and Development spins."



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Re: Wireless Networking Problem / Fedora Store Ideas

[Paul Stauffer]

On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:32:43PM -0500, Markus McLaughlin wrote:
> to time.  I hope there is a good solution/workaround for this soon.  I

I hope you've checked Bugzilla, and filed a bug report if it's not already
there:   Be sure to be as specific as possible
about which wireless card it is.

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Wireless Networking Problem / Fedora Store Ideas

[Markus McLaughlin]

I hate to be a complainer BUT when I was using the PPC version of Fedora 8
Live CD, wireless networking didn't work on an older iBook I use from time
to time.  I hope there is a good solution/workaround for this soon.  I think
the bugs must be ironed out for a Re-Spin before Fedora 9 is ready.  But
other then that, Fedora 8 is the BEST OS yet!
As far as a Fedora Store : Book-Like Magazines with a FREE DVD attached are
a MUST. Also, why not sell USB Flash Drives with Fedora 9 already on it?!
 Or a $300 PC with Fedora 9 pre-installed!  Or $600 PC Laptops with Fedora
9.  Or Getting Started Books with a Live CD attached!  Or computer cases or
luggage with the Fedora Logo on it!  Or a Developer's Course with Fedora 9
SDK!!!

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Store SIG meeting reminder

[Max Spevack]

The Store SIG will have its first meeting on Wednesday at 18:00 GMT in 
#fedora-marketing.  We are going to try to set some goals, and at the 
end of the meeting I want us to have a target in mind of "what we want 
to achieve by December 4th, which is 3 weeks away.


Here's a few things to get us thinking -- we can talk about them on the 
list here, or in the meeting tomorrow.


(1) I'm glad that people took the contents of the What Should the Store 
Sell thread and transferred it to the wiki.  I would really like it if 
one or two people could volunteer to be the maintainer of the Store 
SIG's wiki space, and keep making sure that important things that are 
discussed over email can get back on the wiki for everyone to see, like, 
for example, getting tomorrow's IRC log up on the wiki, etc.


(2) Ambassador/Event kits.  There are two parts to these -- one part is 
having a way for actual hardware (computers, OLPCs, video cameras) to be 
sent from event to event.  That is a little bit outside the scope of 
this this SIG right now, because it requires money UP FRONT.  But from a 
swag perspective, what we want is a way for an event organizer to see a 
list of swag that is available, and buy a whole bunch of it in bulk 
(therefore getting a cheaper price) and have it shipped to some 
location.


(3) Quality.  Lots of complaints about CafePress sucking.  That's 
fine... we don't have to use them.  It was just an initial idea.  But we 
need to figure out a way that we can get the AUTOMATION that CafePress 
offers some other way -- and in a way that can be global.


Here is the important thing to remember, as it is the underlying 
question that we must ask at every step of this process:


IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AUTOMATED?  If the *entire* process cannot be 
achieved via the internet, then we are DOING IT WRONG.  All previous 
attempts at swag distribution have failed because they required people 
to go around mailing shirts and CDs all over the place.  No one wants to 
do that, and it doesn't scale.


The first thing that we have to identify is a vendor that can take our 
designs and handle the actual physical production and shipment of the 
goods, giving the profits to us and taking a cut for their trouble.  We 
need it to be automated, and high quality.


Maybe there are multiple vendors, and the "Fedora Store" just serves as 
a clearing house that points people in the right direction.


spreadshirt.net to me looks like it's exactly the same stuff that 
cafepress offers.  Red Hat uses Brand Fuel, but my main complaint with 
them is that there are too many middle-men between the designer and an 
actual product being sold.  It's not agile enough to serve the needs of 
our community.


The second thing we have to ask ourselves is "what should the process 
for creating a new product look like, from the designer's perspective?"


I want to make a product-creation process that is as easy as possible 
for someone like Nicu or Mairin.


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Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week

[Mauricio Pretto]

http://www.drm.info/

Pretto
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MauricioPretto



Davidson Rodrigues Paulo wrote:
> 2007/11/13, H. Guémar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles.
> 
> Why not automatically send profiles (if network is up and internet is
> reachable) after installation? Privacy issues?
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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[David Nielsen]

tir, 13 11 2007 kl. 19:26 +, skrev Duarte Diogo:
> Ter, 2007-11-13 às 10:33 +0100, David Nielsen escreveu:
> > man, 12 11 2007 kl. 17:10 -0700, skrev Clint Savage:
> > But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to
> > get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes.
> > Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a
> > nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish
> > - could we get something like that?
> > 
> > Something that promotes Fedora and is stylish yet discrete enough to
> > wear at work.
> > 
> > - David
> 
> Regarding the clothes, we need something global, not only in the EMEA or
> in the USA. If I buy something in USA, I pay a lot of money due to a
> import costs to Portugal (and also a lot of paper work).
> 
> I think that http://www.spreadshirt.net/en/ is a good solution, because
> they have a lot of offices in Europe and also in USA. I don't know the
> quality of the clothes, but for sure we have a German ambassador around,
> knowing the company and the products.
> 
> It's also possible to open a shop with the spreadshirt frontend or place
> bulk orders http://www.deutsche-druckservice.de/prices.141.0.html

Absolutely, I'm in Denmark and I hate paying customs not to mention
shipping for swag. 


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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[Michael Beckwith]

Definitely some stuff on there that I'd consider ordering, like a fedora 
business card holder, among other things


Fabian Affolter wrote:

Michael Beckwith wrote:
  

For now, I'll quote myself from last month when I suggested some, but
I'll keep with just the better ones, as well as add to it.

coffee and travel mugs
Fleece jackets
Beanie hat
messenger/tote bags
pin buttons
patches for jackets and whatnot.
keychain
handheld teddy bears with fedora shirts
calendars
fridge magnets
personal journals or daily planners
engraved flash drives
stress balls
bottle opener




A good start to see how merchandising stuff can look like is the Red Hat
Cool Stuff Store [1].  IMHO There are some very "cool" things with a
good price.  Example, Fedora 7 DVD for 0,90 EUR.  This is cheaper than
some other online vendors.

Regards,

Fabian

[1] https://www.redhat-coolstuff-store.com/index.php?o=516

  



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Fedora Membership/Fellowship

[Fabian Affolter]

Hi all,

A few months ago Gerold and I talked about a kind of Fedora Member- or
Fellowship.  This has included the webshop issue, too.  The membership
thing is a topic for the FAD [1] at the end of this month but perhaps
it's a good idea to publish our "brain dump" right now.  Because a
intensive discussion about a shop has started...

Some of you can surely remember the time when "Red Hat Magazin" has been
delivered (between summer 2003 and winter 2004) to the subscribers in
Europe.  It was the printed german pendant to the online version [2].
Every issue contained an up-to-date "respins" of Red Hat Linux 9 and
later Fedora Core.  With one issue they sent a mouse pad.  I believe
that most subscribers like this kind of goodie because it was exclusive.

But we don't want to focus to a magazine because there are already
enough computer-related magazines on the market.  Our focus will be the
 delivering of pressed and printed media with the newest release of
Fedora at the Release Day.  No waiting because the mirrors are slow or
down just take the disc and install it.  The goodies are the other part
of the subscription.

Basically we were just looking for something to get the people (most
will be end users...) closer to the project and a way to make the
customer relationship stronger.  Of course it's about money.  We hope to
finance the participation of Fedora at Events with the profit.

Check out your "brain dump" [3] and tell me your opinion, your ideas,
your reservations or what ever.

Kind regards,

Fabian

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[Fabian Affolter]

Michael Beckwith wrote:
> For now, I'll quote myself from last month when I suggested some, but
> I'll keep with just the better ones, as well as add to it.
> 
> coffee and travel mugs
> Fleece jackets
> Beanie hat
> messenger/tote bags
> pin buttons
> patches for jackets and whatnot.
> keychain
> handheld teddy bears with fedora shirts
> calendars
> fridge magnets
> personal journals or daily planners
> engraved flash drives
> stress balls
> bottle opener
> 

A good start to see how merchandising stuff can look like is the Red Hat
Cool Stuff Store [1].  IMHO There are some very "cool" things with a
good price.  Example, Fedora 7 DVD for 0,90 EUR.  This is cheaper than
some other online vendors.

Regards,

Fabian

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[Michael Beckwith]

I decided to make it easy for people to see everything that has been 
proposed so far, by putting the items up on the wiki:


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store

Although I admit I didn't heavily proofread it so if you see any double 
entries, feel free to remove one of them. Hope this helps everyone.


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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[JoergSimon]

Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 20:26:29 schrieb Duarte Diogo:

> I think that http://www.spreadshirt.net/en/ is a good solution, because
> they have a lot of offices in Europe and also in USA. I don't know the
> quality of the clothes, but for sure we have a German ambassador around,
> knowing the company and the products.
> It's also possible to open a shop with the spreadshirt frontend or place
> bulk orders http://www.deutsche-druckservice.de/prices.141.0.html

If Spreadshirt can provide all SWAG what we want - why not!

The french Team has already a spreadshirt shop - as i remember!

http://fedora-fr.spreadshirt.net

cheers Joerg


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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[Duarte Diogo]

Ter, 2007-11-13 às 10:33 +0100, David Nielsen escreveu:
> man, 12 11 2007 kl. 17:10 -0700, skrev Clint Savage:
> But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to
> get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes.
> Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a
> nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish
> - could we get something like that?
> 
> Something that promotes Fedora and is stylish yet discrete enough to
> wear at work.
> 
> - David

Regarding the clothes, we need something global, not only in the EMEA or
in the USA. If I buy something in USA, I pay a lot of money due to a
import costs to Portugal (and also a lot of paper work).

I think that http://www.spreadshirt.net/en/ is a good solution, because
they have a lot of offices in Europe and also in USA. I don't know the
quality of the clothes, but for sure we have a German ambassador around,
knowing the company and the products.

It's also possible to open a shop with the spreadshirt frontend or place
bulk orders http://www.deutsche-druckservice.de/prices.141.0.html

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Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week

[Roberto Mizuuti]

I agree in that point. But I don't think they'll really call anyone.
will they???

At least, never happened in Brazil...

:-P

regards



2007/11/13, hymno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Op dinsdag 13-11-2007 om 14:53 uur [tijdzone -0300], schreef Roberto
> Mizuuti:
> > What privacy issues? I mean, how could the knowledge of what hardware
> > you have on your box do any harm to you?
> >
> > PS: I take it as a end-user machine. If your box is the main firewall
> > of your network, I would agree.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Roberto Mizuuti
>
> It's a matter of principle.
> An OS ought not to be phoning home without specific user's knowlegde and
> permission.
> Doesn't matter if that OS is free software or proprietary.
>
> herman
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Re: [Phoronix] WereWolf Vs the Gutsy Gibbon: 1- 1

[Imtiaz Rahi]

Here is the digg
http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_7_10_Fedora_8_Performance_Compared

Cheers,
Imtiaz


On Nov 13, 2007 4:24 AM, H. Guémar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Phoronix has done some benchmarks on performancesbetween Fedora 8 and
> Ubuntu 7.10.
> "As would be expected, in the gaming benchmarks the two Linux
> distributions had performed about the same. In three of the
> benchmarks, however, Fedora 8 had the marginal lead over Ubuntu 7.10.
> Even though Fedora 8 was on top 60% of the time, the differences were
> so small that a Linux gamer would not notice a change while gaming."
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=912&num=1
>
> I am interested to know if SELinux was activated on the Fedora Box
> since it brings some overhead.
> I also shared the link in Mugshot.
>
>
>
> Phoronix had previously made benchmarks on power management between
> both distribution, Marc Wiriadisastra posted about it on this m-l.
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=880&num=1
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>
> Cheers.
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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[jbwillia]

3"x3" fedora bubble Stickers


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Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week

[hymno]

Op dinsdag 13-11-2007 om 14:53 uur [tijdzone -0300], schreef Roberto
Mizuuti:
> What privacy issues? I mean, how could the knowledge of what hardware
> you have on your box do any harm to you?
> 
> PS: I take it as a end-user machine. If your box is the main firewall
> of your network, I would agree. 
> 
> regards
> 
> Roberto Mizuuti

It's a matter of principle.
An OS ought not to be phoning home without specific user's knowlegde and
permission.
Doesn't matter if that OS is free software or proprietary.

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Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week

[Roberto Mizuuti]

What privacy issues? I mean, how could the knowledge of what hardware you
have on your box do any harm to you?

PS: I take it as a end-user machine. If your box is the main firewall of
your network, I would agree.

regards

Roberto Mizuuti

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Subject: Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week
To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base


2007/11/13, H. Guémar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles.

Why not automatically send profiles (if network is up and internet is
reachable) after installation? Privacy issues?

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Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week

[Benjamin Lewis]

On Tuesday 13 November 2007 09:32:28 am Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Digg it:
>
> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_sees_strong_adoption_in_first_week
>
> http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/11/12/fedora-8-sees-strong-a
>doption-in-first-week
>
> "The latest version of Fedora—codenamed Werewolf—was released last week.
> According to statistics released this morning by Red Hat, Fedora 8 has
> been already been installed over 54,000 times in only four days."
>
> Rahul

I know its becoming a regular event me posting these, but the numbers always 
make interesting reading!

http://diggometer.benl.co.uk/?mode=Tabular;input=4113416;method=Id


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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[CyberSpy]

I didn't see this listed, but, a nice Fedora Laptop Bag, standard
style and backpack style. I think that a laptop bag with the Infinity
logo on it would be nice. I know I'd buy one, the one I have now is
just a a simple black bag that came with my Dell and has the Infinity
logo airbrushed on it, but the colors are starting to fade away/bleed.

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:


Out-of-jail-Free Cards ;-)


LOL!  For those particularly rough FUDCons?

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Re: future of FUDCon proposal

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On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 01:52:57PM -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
> FUDCon a bigger and better thing is worth it.  Imagine if $someone were
> doing all the logistics and all we have to do is fill the whiteboard on
> the day of the talks? :)

Yeah, that was Pam Andrews. :)

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

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On Nov 13, 2007 8:57 AM, Greg DeKoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
> > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no idea
> > is too crazy:
> >
> > - professionally-printed blank DVDs/CDs you can use to burn Fedora to. Comes
> > with a nice blank space for you to write in the version number / arch /etc.
> >
> > - professionally-printed DVD/CD labels again with the blank write-in space.
>
> Fedora-branded USB keys, preloaded with Fedora.

This is a great idea. Definitely Fedora-branded preloaded USB keys.

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[Gerold]

> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
>> Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no
>> idea
>> is too crazy:
> Fedora-branded USB keys, preloaded with Fedora.
^^
+5





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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[Greg DeKoenigsberg]

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Máirín Duffy wrote:

Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no idea 
is too crazy:


- professionally-printed blank DVDs/CDs you can use to burn Fedora to. Comes 
with a nice blank space for you to write in the version number / arch /etc.


- professionally-printed DVD/CD labels again with the blank write-in space.


Fedora-branded USB keys, preloaded with Fedora.

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Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Davidson Rodrigues Paulo wrote:

2007/11/13, H. Guémar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles.


Why not automatically send profiles (if network is up and internet is
reachable) after installation? Privacy issues?



It is an opt-in mechanism, yes.

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Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week

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Davidson Rodrigues Paulo wrote:

2007/11/13, H. Guémar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles.


Why not automatically send profiles (if network is up and internet is
reachable) after installation? Privacy issues?


Yes. Privacy issues.

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Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week

[Davidson Rodrigues Paulo]

2007/11/13, H. Guémar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles.

Why not automatically send profiles (if network is up and internet is
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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[John Babich]

+1 on the quality polo shirts, similar to the European ambassador ones.

Best Regards,

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Gerold wrote:

Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 10:50:28 schrieb David Nielsen:
Not sure - someone proposed balloons?

^^
Do you mean the same shown in the theme of F7 *bg*

ok, just kidding :-)



Seriously though that would be a hell of a marketing stunt.

I can't wait to see the real life Fedora 8 promo materials ;-)

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[Gerold]

> Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 10:50:28 schrieb David Nielsen:
> Not sure - someone proposed balloons?
^^
Do you mean the same shown in the theme of F7 *bg*

ok, just kidding :-)

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

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Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 10:50:28 schrieb David Nielsen:

> Oh that looks good, I'd love one for when I go out promoting Fedora -
> any chance you would share information on where acquire one?

We produced this Polos for Ambassadors, so till we have generic Polos and a 
Shop, you should be a Ambassador - i know you are ;) 
The best way is to visit a FAD or FUDCON where many Ambassadors come together, 
then the chance is high that we produce some more for lower costs - For sure 
FOSDEM2008 and Linuxtag2008.
If you need them for your local event and need them before, contact me or 
Gerold. To produce them you should need at least 5 Polos - and i need the 
money before i give the order to produce them - this is neccessary because 
the last time i ordered them for another Ambassador he payed little more then 
a half of the bill. 

I think there must be a way to provide such Polos without Ambassador stitch - 
but i will wait to contact the vendor till the first SIG Meeting - with this 
topic.

Not sure - someone proposed balloons? 


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Fedora/Linux for Noobs

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi


http://blog.coffeedaze.com/?p=66

"While Fedora may not be the best starting point for someone with 
minimal computer knowledge, it is one of the most cutting edge flavors 
of Linux and has some amazing support"


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Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week

[Rahul Sundaram]

H. Guémar wrote:

Thanks, Rahul !

On Smolt, only 6,000 profiles have been sent. We should advertise
Smolt more aggressively.
There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles.


The count is likely misleading since there is a bug in Fedora 8 that 
causes firstboot to not show up in some instances when the network is 
down and Smolt server itself was running into some issues for a while 
but yes, promoting Smolt would be a critical factor for the success of 
not just Fedora but the Linux community on the whole. The potentials are 
growing steadily.


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Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week

[H. Guémar]

Thanks, Rahul !

On Smolt, only 6,000 profiles have been sent. We should advertise
Smolt more aggressively.
There are a lot of reason that people don't send their profiles.

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[H. Guémar]

+1 Ambassador Kit
* Fedora books
* baby clothes. Fedora babies are way cuter than others !
* Fedora pendentive or cheap jewelry.
* local store ie: EMEA) to avoid expensive mailing fees. ;-)

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[David Nielsen]

tir, 13 11 2007 kl. 10:38 +0100, skrev JoergSimon:
> Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 10:33:34 schrieb David Nielsen:
> > man, 12 11 2007 kl. 17:10 -0700, skrev Clint Savage:
> > > Polos would be good.
> > But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to
> > get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes.
> > Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a
> > nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish
> > - could we get something like that?
> 
> I agree, thats why the most European Ambassadors wear high quality Fedora 
> Polos with stitched Logos on events - maybe we can reuse the idea and colors 
> and maybe Stitchcards  in a more generic Polo.
> Some examples for polos that we have produced for FOSDEM and Linuxtag 2007.
> http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/lt07/page002.html

Oh that looks good, I'd love one for when I go out promoting Fedora -
any chance you would share information on where acquire one?

- David


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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

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Am Dienstag, 13. November 2007 10:33:34 schrieb David Nielsen:
> man, 12 11 2007 kl. 17:10 -0700, skrev Clint Savage:
> > Polos would be good.
> But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to
> get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes.
> Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a
> nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish
> - could we get something like that?

I agree, thats why the most European Ambassadors wear high quality Fedora 
Polos with stitched Logos on events - maybe we can reuse the idea and colors 
and maybe Stitchcards  in a more generic Polo.
Some examples for polos that we have produced for FOSDEM and Linuxtag 2007.
http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/lt07/page002.html

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Re: PolicyKit: looser limitations, tighter security for Linux applications

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

H

Check out this article which has some nice details on how PolicyKit is 
useful.


Digg it:

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_adds_PolicyKit_to_provide_best_proactive_security 



Dugg. ;-)

Thanks again.

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Re: Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi,

Digg it:

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_sees_strong_adoption_in_first_week

http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/11/12/fedora-8-sees-strong-adoption-in-first-week 



"The latest version of Fedora—codenamed Werewolf—was released last week. 
According to statistics released this morning by Red Hat, Fedora 8 has 
been already been installed over 54,000 times in only four days."


Rahul



Dugg, thanks Rahul.

I think we maybe could have more (of 'our own') people Digg stuff like this.

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

David Nielsen wrote:

But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to
get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes.


/me has bad experiences with Cafe Press T-Shirts as well


Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a
nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish
- could we get something like that?

Something that promotes Fedora and is stylish yet discrete enough to
wear at work.



The Fedora Ambassador Polos (in Fedora Blue) we have from LinuxTag 2007 
are of great quality. They stand out between the other (often) white 
T-Shirts, and they're discrete enough to wear at work (I've not had 
complaints yet ;p).


Just an example.

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[Gerold]

imho we need two kind of "groups" of articles ...

first
-
mass production like stickers, banners, posters a.s.o.

second (more important)
--
quality stuff
e.g. stiched Polos in a quality which you can use for years, by daily wear
;-)
special and exclusive things e.g. the slider (maybe the same as RH Store)
or blue Shoes *bg* another idea which FabianAffolter and we are working on
(also topic at the EMEA FAD in two weeks) is a "membership" with a special
value ...

Regards

gerold

>
> man, 12 11 2007 kl. 17:10 -0700, skrev Clint Savage:
>> Máirín Duffy wrote:
>> > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no
>> > idea is too crazy:
>> >
>> > - professionally-printed blank DVDs/CDs you can use to burn Fedora to.
>> > Comes with a nice blank space for you to write in the version number /
>> > arch /etc.
>> >
>> > - professionally-printed DVD/CD labels again with the blank write-in
>> space.
>>
>> Prepressed Live CDs are very important.  Mass production could yield us
>> a lower cost so we can give
>> them out.  Whenever I run an installfest, I clear easy 20-30 LiveCDs.
>> Having the ability to obtain
>> a few hundreds pressed CDs would help us get people more interested.
>> >
>> > - at least 5 or 6 different tshirts that are stylish, not just a logo
>> > and a slogan but something your non-geek friends would actually think
>> > looked cool even if they didn't understand what Fedora was. They would
>> > pave the way for folks to ask what it is and for you to spread the
>> good
>> > word :)
>>
>> Polos would be good.
>
> But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to
> get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes.
> Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a
> nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish
> - could we get something like that?
>
> Something that promotes Fedora and is stylish yet discrete enough to
> wear at work.
>
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Fedora 8 sees strong adoption in first week

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi,

Digg it:

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_sees_strong_adoption_in_first_week

http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/11/12/fedora-8-sees-strong-adoption-in-first-week

"The latest version of Fedora—codenamed Werewolf—was released last week. 
According to statistics released this morning by Red Hat, Fedora 8 has 
been already been installed over 54,000 times in only four days."


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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[David Nielsen]

man, 12 11 2007 kl. 17:10 -0700, skrev Clint Savage:
> Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no
> > idea is too crazy:
> > 
> > - professionally-printed blank DVDs/CDs you can use to burn Fedora to.
> > Comes with a nice blank space for you to write in the version number /
> > arch /etc.
> > 
> > - professionally-printed DVD/CD labels again with the blank write-in space.
> 
> Prepressed Live CDs are very important.  Mass production could yield us a 
> lower cost so we can give
> them out.  Whenever I run an installfest, I clear easy 20-30 LiveCDs.  Having 
> the ability to obtain
> a few hundreds pressed CDs would help us get people more interested.
> > 
> > - at least 5 or 6 different tshirts that are stylish, not just a logo
> > and a slogan but something your non-geek friends would actually think
> > looked cool even if they didn't understand what Fedora was. They would
> > pave the way for folks to ask what it is and for you to spread the good
> > word :)
> 
> Polos would be good.

But please none of the cafeexpress shit, I'd like at least one option to
get a polo or t-shirt that matched the quality of the OS it promotes.
Cafeexpress' print are horrible, they degrade fast, I saw Ubuntu sold a
nice polo with an embroided logo, that was both high quality and stylish
- could we get something like that?

Something that promotes Fedora and is stylish yet discrete enough to
wear at work.

- David


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Re: Fedora Store special interest group

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Max Spevack wrote:
I have created a new SIG (Special Interest Group) to try to solve, this 
time in a more formal way, our swag problems.  A basic page is up on the 
wiki that talks about some initial workflow questions, etc.


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store



I'm in.

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Máirín Duffy wrote:
Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no 
idea is too crazy:




An official Fedora (Hat). I've been looking for these.

Out-of-jail-Free Cards ;-)

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Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?

[Nicu Buculei]

Máirín Duffy wrote:
Some ideas, let's brainstorm like mad and see what we come up with, no 
idea is too crazy:


I think nobody mentioned yet mouse pads. Not only classic, rectangular 
pads, we can have one shaped like the infinity bubble.


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