Re: Summit USB key doco
Forwarded Message From: Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Summit USB key doco Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:39:27 -0400 On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 19:10 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: I posted the document here, and if you see something vital missing please let me know. The finished product is due shortly. w Scribus :) I copied the files into the design team collateral dir, I hope you don't mind! http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Fedora%20Collateral/USB%20Key% 20Documentation/ Also, some quick feedback, take it or leave it :) None of it is critical, more stylistic so it may not be worth changing: You can even make changes as you go to make Fedora suit your needs. there's two makes here, maybe instead You can even make changes as you go to adapt Fedora to your needs. PowerPC based maybe should be PowerPC-based check out all the latest summit information through our handy download page. might want to capitalize - Summit Just doubleclick the Red Hat Summit 2009 icon on the desktop. might be cool to throw a screenshot of the icon in so it's blazingly obvious ~m -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Temporary FI platform
The short: It looks like zikula isn't going to make it in time for us to use it as a platform for FI for the F12 cycle. Therefore, proposal: Temporarily use wordpress as a quick-and-dirty FI platform for this release cycle only, designing the workflow for zikula so that we have a constant motivation (argh, this workflow isn't made for this software!) to drive the zikula stuff forward and migrate to it ASAP. The extra work this would create is not too bad. * migrating articles from wp to zikula when zikula is ready (we'd choose persistent URLs that work for both platforms) * manual cross-linking of translations while using wp (one wp instance per language) * Design's design for FI wp would have to be readapted to fit zikula when the time comes. Rationale: We have people who know wp and can make it function fast; wp was a runner-up during platform comparison (iirc), it's sufficiently feature-limited for the things we want that we'll be dissuaded for using it for way too long, and the number of published items that will go out over FI in the next 6 months is manageable (even if we average one item per day, that's 182.5 items; 200 is small enough to manually migrate if absolutely need be). Question: Can you spot any flaws in this idea? Rip it apart! If there aren't any gaping holes by the weekend, I'll ask Infrastructure to get us up a quick test instance to start with, so we can begin publishing finished material being created right now, like Paul's Summit usb key doco. Help needed: Ian is out of commission for a few weeks as the school year starts, so we're looking for someone to step up to get the infrastructure for an FI platform going. Any takers? (We'll know by this weekend whether it's wordpress or not; if wordpress, it'll be easy.) Context: see log below (slightly edited for relevance). --Mel ianweller mchua: i have some bad news about FI mchua ianweller: just saw the email thread - not going to make it in time for F12? ianweller mchua: correct mchua ianweller: I'm reading through and trying to understand what the blockers are. mchua ianweller: I've got my heart set on having an FI feed live for Ambassadors to use for the F12 cycle by the time beta goes out mchua ianweller: (...though I could be convinced of the impossibility of this) ianweller well, all the luck in the world to you :) mchua ianweller: can you tell me why the following is a terrible idea: mchua ianweller: wordpress as temporary F12 FI feed. ianweller none of these reasons might be blockers, i'm playing devil's advocate... ianweller 1) may be difficult to import back into zikula. mchua ianweller: quick, dirty, content goes up somewhere; it's tagged, feeds automagically exist, we can pick URLs so that they'll be persistent when we move to zikula. * mchua nods ianweller 2) less workflow management. mchua Definitely less workflow management. ianweller 3) dirty kludge for the time being that may accidentally become permanent. mchua 3) is what worries me. mchua ...though I am willing to sit down every week and manually crank through workflow, and sit down when zikula comes up and manually port over every article, if need be. ianweller that's all i can think of. :) mchua (the latter will actually be 'write a python script that...') ianweller python is like crack mchua and if marketing and news folks are gritting their teeth through using wordpress every week, zikula will get up in a freakin' hurry mchua I want wordpress to be functional, but to be functional *with pain* so that we don't get complacent and use it for F13 as well, basically. mchua ianweller: but it's *happy* crack! ianweller lol mchua ianweller: i sampled everything in the medicine cabinet for comparison. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Summit USB key doco
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:55:17AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Forwarded Message From: Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Summit USB key doco Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:39:27 -0400 On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 19:10 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: I posted the document here, and if you see something vital missing please let me know. The finished product is due shortly. w Scribus :) I copied the files into the design team collateral dir, I hope you don't mind! http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Fedora%20Collateral/USB%20Key% 20Documentation/ Also, some quick feedback, take it or leave it :) None of it is critical, more stylistic so it may not be worth changing: You can even make changes as you go to make Fedora suit your needs. there's two makes here, maybe instead You can even make changes as you go to adapt Fedora to your needs. PowerPC based maybe should be PowerPC-based check out all the latest summit information through our handy download page. might want to capitalize - Summit Just doubleclick the Red Hat Summit 2009 icon on the desktop. might be cool to throw a screenshot of the icon in so it's blazingly obvious Thanks Mo, I'm going to see if I can get the fixes in before press time! -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Temporary FI platform
SoI could theoretically take on this task. By theoretically, I mean that, ...get the infrastructure for an FI platform going... sounds fairly benign, but if it involves actual installation and whatnot, I may not be your girl. Feel free to ping me with more details offline... or on-list, in case anyone else is interested in hearing about the nitty-gritty. Or I can get on irc and discuss if that is better. :) Cheers- Robyn On 8/12/09, Mel Chua m...@redhat.com wrote: The short: It looks like zikula isn't going to make it in time for us to use it as a platform for FI for the F12 cycle. Therefore, proposal: Temporarily use wordpress as a quick-and-dirty FI platform for this release cycle only, designing the workflow for zikula so that we have a constant motivation (argh, this workflow isn't made for this software!) to drive the zikula stuff forward and migrate to it ASAP. The extra work this would create is not too bad. * migrating articles from wp to zikula when zikula is ready (we'd choose persistent URLs that work for both platforms) * manual cross-linking of translations while using wp (one wp instance per language) * Design's design for FI wp would have to be readapted to fit zikula when the time comes. Rationale: We have people who know wp and can make it function fast; wp was a runner-up during platform comparison (iirc), it's sufficiently feature-limited for the things we want that we'll be dissuaded for using it for way too long, and the number of published items that will go out over FI in the next 6 months is manageable (even if we average one item per day, that's 182.5 items; 200 is small enough to manually migrate if absolutely need be). Question: Can you spot any flaws in this idea? Rip it apart! If there aren't any gaping holes by the weekend, I'll ask Infrastructure to get us up a quick test instance to start with, so we can begin publishing finished material being created right now, like Paul's Summit usb key doco. Help needed: Ian is out of commission for a few weeks as the school year starts, so we're looking for someone to step up to get the infrastructure for an FI platform going. Any takers? (We'll know by this weekend whether it's wordpress or not; if wordpress, it'll be easy.) Context: see log below (slightly edited for relevance). --Mel ianweller mchua: i have some bad news about FI mchua ianweller: just saw the email thread - not going to make it in time for F12? ianweller mchua: correct mchua ianweller: I'm reading through and trying to understand what the blockers are. mchua ianweller: I've got my heart set on having an FI feed live for Ambassadors to use for the F12 cycle by the time beta goes out mchua ianweller: (...though I could be convinced of the impossibility of this) ianweller well, all the luck in the world to you :) mchua ianweller: can you tell me why the following is a terrible idea: mchua ianweller: wordpress as temporary F12 FI feed. ianweller none of these reasons might be blockers, i'm playing devil's advocate... ianweller 1) may be difficult to import back into zikula. mchua ianweller: quick, dirty, content goes up somewhere; it's tagged, feeds automagically exist, we can pick URLs so that they'll be persistent when we move to zikula. * mchua nods ianweller 2) less workflow management. mchua Definitely less workflow management. ianweller 3) dirty kludge for the time being that may accidentally become permanent. mchua 3) is what worries me. mchua ...though I am willing to sit down every week and manually crank through workflow, and sit down when zikula comes up and manually port over every article, if need be. ianweller that's all i can think of. :) mchua (the latter will actually be 'write a python script that...') ianweller python is like crack mchua and if marketing and news folks are gritting their teeth through using wordpress every week, zikula will get up in a freakin' hurry mchua I want wordpress to be functional, but to be functional *with pain* so that we don't get complacent and use it for F13 as well, basically. mchua ianweller: but it's *happy* crack! ianweller lol mchua ianweller: i sampled everything in the medicine cabinet for comparison. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Temporary FI platform
On 2009-08-13 12:48:14 AM, Mel Chua wrote: The short: It looks like zikula isn't going to make it in time for us to use it as a platform for FI for the F12 cycle. Therefore, proposal: Temporarily use wordpress as a quick-and-dirty FI platform for this release cycle only, designing the workflow for zikula so that we have a constant motivation (argh, this workflow isn't made for this software!) to drive the zikula stuff forward and migrate to it ASAP. Are the same things that were blocking zikula for the docs team blocking zikula for marketing? Would it be that hard to get even an initial, relatively blank zikula instance on servers that are not covered by the Infrastructure change freeze and then work on polishing that? I'm asking because this is almost making it seem like we have the ability to easily setup and play with a wordpress instance while somehow being unable to do this with zikula, which doesn't make all that much sense to me (although I am totally unfamiliar with the specifics here) - are there any specific things that are blocking marketing from working on an initial zikula instance at the moment? Thanks, Ricky pgpBZDuhU3CnL.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
