Re: CC BY-SA announcement drafts (also: holy crap ian did something!)
What are our goals for this particular announcement? Made a ticket, set ianweller as the owner, and put my recommended answer to this question in the first comment: https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/31#comment:1 Docs, waiting on y'all to tell us what you want from us. ;) --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedoracommunity.org index page
Having said that, I'd propose that we get in touch with the groups using the fedoracommunity.org domain (#3) to find out to what extent a renaming would hamper their community efforts. I'd like to do that with a Cc: of an appropriate list -- Marketing? Websites? Logistics? Other? I think Logistics is the right list for this, since it involves Websites, Infrastructure, and (eventually, when we need to do a marketing campaign for whatever new names go out there) Marketing, so I'd start a thread there and send a message to each list saying hey, this discussion is happening in Logistics, link. /me is also happy to do the legwork on this if desired. ;) --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedoracommunity.org index page
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 01:55:13PM -0400, Mel Chua wrote: Having said that, I'd propose that we get in touch with the groups using the fedoracommunity.org domain (#3) to find out to what extent a renaming would hamper their community efforts. I'd like to do that with a Cc: of an appropriate list -- Marketing? Websites? Logistics? Other? I think Logistics is the right list for this, since it involves Websites, Infrastructure, and (eventually, when we need to do a marketing campaign for whatever new names go out there) Marketing, so I'd start a thread there and send a message to each list saying hey, this discussion is happening in Logistics, link. /me is also happy to do the legwork on this if desired. ;) Heherson from the ph.fc.o-using community got in touch with me just a few minutes ago -- yay list email! -- and had this to say: azneita ping stickster stickster azneita: pong Hi azneita, what can I do for you? azneita about the ph.fedoracommunity.org domain on the list what are the current plans for it? stickster So there was a ticket filed for that -- https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1221 Ah, sorry: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/946 azneita: So the DNS entry exists for that host azneita nah. about the branding conflict with fedora community app stickster azneita: There's been a discussion on Websites list (and Markeing) azneita: Heh, yeah -- just getting to that I think one of the questions we have to answer is, how much pain does renaming either of these properties cause azneita: Since I have you here... :-) What can you tell me about how that would affect ph.fc.o? azneita for our case, we pretty much maintains two dns entries for the sites - ph.fc.o and fedora.bluepoint.com.ph stickster In other words, if we were to move the 2nd level domain to, say, fedoralocales.org (just an example, not really a name yet) -- what kind of problems would that cause for your community in the Phillipines? azneita pretty much little just a bunch of link rots but they are minimal -- k0k (n=...@fedora/k0k) has joined #fedora-ambassadors azneita that's only for us though -- don't know about the other guys we sort of liked fedoracommunity though :D -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
A group/workflow for regularly poking the magazine contacts and writers.
Hi, This came out accidentally during this FAmSCo meet. We have a lot of contacts in different linux mags https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications Can we act as a liaison between the mags and interested in-house writers so that we can promote fedora better? For example, we have a list of topics here http://www.linuxjournal.com/xstatic/author/topicsdue So if we publish one or two articles on each relevant topic (relating fedora with it) and if we repeat it for most of the mags, we will have a lot of articles in no time. The basic idea is to poke the contacts about what they need and poke the writers to write on it keeping a focus on promoting fedora. What's say? Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. = ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit = Sent from Calcutta, WB, India -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedoracommunity.org index page
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:58:58AM -0400, Mel Chua wrote: I'm going to try to chime in from a Marketing standpoint as best I can, and am Ccing the Marketing list in the hopes that Those Who Know More Than I can speak about branding here. To summarize the conversation to date, both to catch up newcomers tothe conversation and to try and form a better understanding of this for myself: we have a naming collision problem. (The thread is at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2009-September/msg00010.html , please correct me if I've missed/mis-stated anything.) The term Fedora Community currently refers to three things. 1. The community of contributors working on the Fedora Project (in other words, us). 2. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/, a site that helps keep track of who is packaging what, and what state those packages are in. 3. http://fedoracommunity.org, the top-level domain for a few (only 2 so far, it sounds like) local group homepages (such as http://ph.fedoracommunity.org/ for the Philippines). http://fedoracommunity.org itself is not up and running, but was supposed to be a directory for all such homepages. Needless, to say, this is confusing, particularly in the case of the two websites. What should we do? Should one or both of the websites be renamed/rebranded? If so, which one(s), and what to? How can we adjust? Some solutions proposed on the list so far: One way we could solve this would be to simply include the page listing at the Fedora Community portal site somewhere, as static content. Ugh. Renaming fedoracommunity.org is very ugly because people have been accumulating subdomains there for months. Plus, the domain name was blessed by Legal last year (when we were still talking about MyFedora) because the domain name helps make it clear that we don't own the site, and aren't responsible for content. So it seems the only choice is to rename Fedora Community. I have no idea what it could be renamed to. Right now it's focused on package maintainers but we're hoping to expand it out more... developers.fedoracommunity.org ? makeit.fedoracommunity.org? I think it would be a branch from the overall fedora community. My thoughts at this point are mainly questions - some of which have partially been answered in the discussion above. 0. What is the purpose of each website being discussed? (#2, admin.fedoraproject.org/community and #3, fedoracommunity.org) #2 - the portal project using the Moksha framework for roughtly real-time, interactive collaboration between contributors; right now it serves mainly packagers but the plan is to drastically increase its coverage beyond that group #3 - a domain used to provide subdomains for local communities at which localized (translated) original content, forums, etc. are provided and maintained outside the Fedora Project; offers both appeal from the perspective of native language, and the ability to discuss and provide solutions outside Fedora's mission and scope 1. For each of the websites being discussed, what were the historical reasons for choosing that name? (Pointers to wiki pages, list archives, or IRC logs would be great.) [[Local_community_domains]] is probably the most important from the perspective of the fedoracommunity.org domain (#3). 2. For each of the websites being discussed , what would the cost of renaming it be? (What effort would we have to go through, and how many people would be affected, in what way?) If #3 is only being used by two groups thus far, and if neither has spent considerable money producing literature or publicity, renaming that one is probably the better option. If we really want to know how did this happen?, my feeling is that I'm the person at fault here. I recall being not bowled over by the naming of the portal project (#2) to Fedora Community, but I couldn't think of why, and I simply failed to put 2 and 2 together with the fedoracommunity.org domain name. I would say that there wasn't enough interplay between the FAB list and Infrastructure, where #3 was discussed and implemented, and Marketing/Moksha, where #2 was going through that process. And putting those pieces together really is an FPL responsibility. We have the Logistics list now to coordinate such things, but didn't back in the winter when #3 was happening (and probably #2 too). Having said that, I'd propose that we get in touch with the groups using the fedoracommunity.org domain (#3) to find out to what extent a renaming would hamper their community efforts. I'd like to do that with a Cc: of an appropriate list -- Marketing? Websites? Logistics? Other? I believe all of the other Filipino Fedora Ambassadors will agree on me on this - we're agreeable to anything the Board deems fit
Re: Fedoracommunity.org index page
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Heherson Pagcaliwagan her...@azneita.orgwrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:58:58AM -0400, Mel Chua wrote: I'm going to try to chime in from a Marketing standpoint as best I can, and am Ccing the Marketing list in the hopes that Those Who Know More Than I can speak about branding here. To summarize the conversation to date, both to catch up newcomers tothe conversation and to try and form a better understanding of this for myself: we have a naming collision problem. (The thread is at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2009-September/msg00010.html , please correct me if I've missed/mis-stated anything.) The term Fedora Community currently refers to three things. 1. The community of contributors working on the Fedora Project (in other words, us). 2. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/, a site that helps keep track of who is packaging what, and what state those packages are in. 3. http://fedoracommunity.org, the top-level domain for a few (only 2 so far, it sounds like) local group homepages (such as http://ph.fedoracommunity.org/ for the Philippines). http://fedoracommunity.org itself is not up and running, but was supposed to be a directory for all such homepages. Needless, to say, this is confusing, particularly in the case of the two websites. What should we do? Should one or both of the websites be renamed/rebranded? If so, which one(s), and what to? How can we adjust? Why don't we just add a list of *.fedoracommunity.org sites on the sidebar of Fedora Community Portal which resides on fedoracommunity.org. The portal already caters to our developers and blogging contributors, can't we do the same for our local communities. Likewise, it will make the portal more like a one-stop showcase of what Fedora have - fantastic developers, energetic contributors and vibrant local communities. That's already Features, Friends, Freedom, and First for you. Some solutions proposed on the list so far: One way we could solve this would be to simply include the page listing at the Fedora Community portal site somewhere, as static content. Ugh. Renaming fedoracommunity.org is very ugly because people have been accumulating subdomains there for months. Plus, the domain name was blessed by Legal last year (when we were still talking about MyFedora) because the domain name helps make it clear that we don't own the site, and aren't responsible for content. So it seems the only choice is to rename Fedora Community. I have no idea what it could be renamed to. Right now it's focused on package maintainers but we're hoping to expand it out more... developers.fedoracommunity.org ? makeit.fedoracommunity.org? I think it would be a branch from the overall fedora community. My thoughts at this point are mainly questions - some of which have partially been answered in the discussion above. 0. What is the purpose of each website being discussed? (#2, admin.fedoraproject.org/community and #3, fedoracommunity.org) #2 - the portal project using the Moksha framework for roughtly real-time, interactive collaboration between contributors; right now it serves mainly packagers but the plan is to drastically increase its coverage beyond that group #3 - a domain used to provide subdomains for local communities at which localized (translated) original content, forums, etc. are provided and maintained outside the Fedora Project; offers both appeal from the perspective of native language, and the ability to discuss and provide solutions outside Fedora's mission and scope 1. For each of the websites being discussed, what were the historical reasons for choosing that name? (Pointers to wiki pages, list archives, or IRC logs would be great.) [[Local_community_domains]] is probably the most important from the perspective of the fedoracommunity.org domain (#3). 2. For each of the websites being discussed , what would the cost of renaming it be? (What effort would we have to go through, and how many people would be affected, in what way?) If #3 is only being used by two groups thus far, and if neither has spent considerable money producing literature or publicity, renaming that one is probably the better option. If we really want to know how did this happen?, my feeling is that I'm the person at fault here. I recall being not bowled over by the naming of the portal project (#2) to Fedora Community, but I couldn't think of why, and I simply failed to put 2 and 2 together with the fedoracommunity.org domain name. I would say that there wasn't enough interplay between the FAB list and Infrastructure, where #3 was discussed and implemented, and Marketing/Moksha, where #2 was going through that process. And putting those pieces together really is an FPL
Re: A group/workflow for regularly poking the magazine contacts and writers.
We have a lot of contacts in different linux mags https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications Can we act as a liaison between the mags and interested in-house writers so that we can promote fedora better? snip The basic idea is to poke the contacts about what they need and poke the writers to write on it keeping a focus on promoting fedora. I think this is a great idea - to me, it sounds like the NDN (News Distribution Network), which Steven Moix (on the Marketing list, and cc'd) has been driving forward. Susmit, does https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_news_distribution_network_%28NDN%29 sound like the idea that came up at FamSCo? If so, do you think you could work with Steven to make this something that Ambassadors could use and help with more as well? (If not, what's missing?) --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Red Hat Delivers Grant To Carnegie Mellon University's School of Computer Science
Red Hat Summit – Chicago – Sept. 1, 2009 – Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE: RHT), the world's leading provider of open source solutions, today announced that it has gifted a grant to Carnegie Mellon University’s School of Computer Science (SCS) to create a state-of-the-art, open source computer laboratory. The laboratory, which will be officially dedicated later this year, will be available to all students, faculty and staff to promote the development and use of free and open source software. http://news.cs.cmu.edu/article.php?a=1029 As a CMU student, this (and what the plans are for this lab) are all of great interest to me, so if anybody knows who's driving this, I'd really love to hear more information about this! Thanks, Ricky pgpgBeydIaoIu.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Red Hat Delivers Grant To Carnegie Mellon University's School of Computer Science
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Ricky Zhou wrote: http://news.cs.cmu.edu/article.php?a=1029 As a CMU student, this (and what the plans are for this lab) are all of great interest to me, so if anybody knows who's driving this, I'd really love to hear more information about this! That's me, and when we have more news (which we will), you'll see it on my blog, and several other public places. Glad you're excited, Ricky. We are too! --Max -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing research drafts (thanks, Robyn!)
The amazing Robyn Bergeron strikes again - we have the beginnings of a Real Market Research Strategy. Woo! See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_research for the good stuff, and help fill in the stubs if you can. In particular, we're looking for answers to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_research#Questions_to_Answer. Thanks, Robyn! --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Marketing research drafts (thanks, Robyn!)
Thanks Mel! I'm still adding things myself - so definitely keep an eye out (you know, goals seemed like a good thing to fill in still :) ). I'll send out more info as things progress. Robyn On 9/10/09, Mel Chua m...@redhat.com wrote: The amazing Robyn Bergeron strikes again - we have the beginnings of a Real Market Research Strategy. Woo! See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_research for the good stuff, and help fill in the stubs if you can. In particular, we're looking for answers to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_research#Questions_to_Answer. Thanks, Robyn! --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Red Hat Delivers Grant To Carnegie Mellon University's School of Computer Science
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Max Spevack mspev...@redhat.com wrote: That's me, and when we have more news (which we will), you'll see it on my blog, and several other public places. Glad you're excited, Ricky. We are too! You and I need to talk about the far reaching long term positive impact of a Red Hat grant for an espresso machine in a certain Alaskan research institution. -jef -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Red Hat Delivers Grant To Carnegie Mellon University's School of Computer Science
- Max Spevack mspev...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Ricky Zhou wrote: http://news.cs.cmu.edu/article.php?a=1029 As a CMU student, this (and what the plans are for this lab) are all of great interest to me, so if anybody knows who's driving this, I'd really love to hear more information about this! That's me, and when we have more news (which we will), you'll see it on my blog, and several other public places. Also on my blog. Glad you're excited, Ricky. We are too! Great to hear this. Hope this could happen in Vietnam soon :) Kind regards, Tuan -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Zikula theme status
• Images - This is my biggest concern right now. If you want to post an image in an article, you can't. It won't let you. It just spits out the img tag in plain text. :( I've fixed this - it's normally a security precaution (for the technical amongst you, think CSRF/Cross site scripting). Doesn't apply here, because we have limited admin access. • Comments - I don't know how to get comments forms to appear beneath articles. From searching the Zikula forums, I found out thatEZcomments is a plugin that does it, but we don't seem to have it installed and I'm not sure if it's okay to install. We should have this packaged - if not, it's an easy one to add • RSS - I don't know how to do this. We need one feed for all articles and ideally at some point in the future a podcast and vodcast feed. So this is the RSS module, which has been packaged. • Author names - I can't figure out how to get real human names :( not sure how. Also my method of linking to the author's profile is rather hacky. You can do this via the template - if I can catch you on IRC I can take you through it. • Links for sidebar articles - can't get them, variable is a mystery. When I use the usual variables all the sidebar article links (e.g., individual event details links) come up blank or point to the main article being displayed. In the blocks? I'll have to go through this one on IRC as well. * Feature story - I'd like to have one story displayed in full blinginess on the front page, it seems the news module has a way to do this but I can't figure out how to make it work (how do you assign 'today's feature' to an article?) So this is slightly counter-intuitive, and complicated (unnecessarily so, I smell a feature request...) Another thing I'll take you through on IRC. Any help is greatly appreciated! I hope you like the progress so far. I think it looks *great*. Thanks for all your work, and figuring this stuff out on your own :) Simon -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: A group/workflow for regularly poking the magazine contacts and writers.
I think this is a great idea - to me, it sounds like the NDN (News Distribution Network), which Steven Moix (on the Marketing list, and cc'd) has been driving forward. Susmit, does https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_news_distribution_network_%28NDN%29 sound like the idea that came up at FamSCo? No, not entirely. I was not talking about news. I was talking about technical/non-technical articles, though news and articles can be distributed through the same channel. Also, this need not be confined to ambassadors only. The idea was like this: For example, If a magazine is going to have an issue on Localisation, the team will ensure there is an article on Transifex if someone is interested to write it. (I bet there will be :)) Or if a magazine is going to roll out an issue on IT infrastructure, the team will ensure that someone writes about puppet and so on. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. = ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit = Sent from Calcutta, WB, India -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Call for release slogan suggestions
(Marketing folks - please take this out to other lists and teams you think would be interested! I'd like to have a Marketing liason driving this discussion in every other list.) We need a slogan for the F12 release. It will be chosen one week from now on 9/17. A release slogan is a short call-to-action that fits the artwork theme from Design, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan#Themes. (F11's slogan was Reign, F10's was Fire it up!) Please put your slogan ideas here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan#New_slogan_ideas. Feel free to discuss slogan ideas on this and other mailing lists - but also make sure to put your ideas in that table on that wiki page so they'll be counted. The deadline for submissions is Tuesday 9/15 at 20:00 UTC, which is our next Marketing meeting (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings). We'll be discussing submissions there, and then Mo Duffy will take that input and select the final slogan on behalf of the Design team on Thursday 9/17. Let me know if you have any questions/comments/concerns - and let the wiki table know if you have any ideas! Go! --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
