Re: Video: 5 Fun Things in Fedora 12
On 12/02/2009 04:18 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: Unfortunately, good A/V production tools are not a strong point in FOSS, although there are several notable projects in progress to try and correct them. I'm concerned about the encoding stuff in particular, though -- I hate to ask, Mo, but did you get a chance to file a bug about the encoding problems you faced? If not, maybe someone here who's got a keen interest in moving the free-software-top-to-bottom stack forward would ilke to reproduce from your description earlier in the thread, and then handle the filing of the bug(s) and follow-up. That seems like a very constructive way forward. A problem is, in F12 we seems to have some regressions making the things worse, for example I am unable to record any usable screencast due to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525155 And PiTiVi, which is out best option as a video editor, is in such a sore state, despite being under development for years... Maybe is the time for us as a community to do something about that. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Post FUDCon Survey
Hey List, Has there been some thought given to doing a post FUDCon survey like we've done in the past? I asked Mel about this, but she wasn't sure what the status of implementing some survey software was. If possible, i would like to be able to run a small survey (5 questions) about Fedora Live after FUDCon so we can see where it was most effective and where it fell flat. Cheers, Yaakov signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Video: 5 Fun Things in Fedora 12
On 12/01/2009 12:04 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: It took around 12 hours, but it could have taken 6 or less if I didn't end up having so many problems encoding it and uploading it. Everything through editing the clips together and adding titles was very straightforward. But it was extremely painful and time-consuming to render them, and very difficult to upload them. (Even YouTube failed the first 3 tries. The first try because the video was over 10 minutes, so I had to split it and re-render it, then upload again.) Just an interlude: I am not sure about PiTiVi, but usually when you split a video (mencoder, avidemux, whatever...) you don't need to re-render it, saving a segment with the same encodings should be *very fast*. If we want to make a drive for this I think we need to get the bugs in the encoders fixed, and we should also decide on a proper place to host the videos (I will say YouTube's caption feature is great - I didn't have to set up time stamps at all and it's very close to being in-sync) and have some documentation for getting the uploaded and working with some troubleshooting information. Maybe we can get them hosted somehow on our servers, we don't need streaming or Flash, people with HTML5-enabled browsers should be able to see them. Note: I agree is important to put the videos where the viewers are, so upload copies on YouTube, Vimeo, Blip.tv, etc. but would like to have also the original somewhere is a Free format. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Uploading own work
Hi All I couldn't join the marketing meeting because it was 12am in my local time I wanted to discuss this http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-01/fedora-meeting.2009-12-01-20.02.log.html#l-147 I thought about the same last week. I've found a better way for anyone to upload his work, My Idea is to have a site similar to the sites: linuxmint-art.org and ubuntu-art.org... I've contacted someone from Mint and he told me that the site is maintained by opendesktop.org . He also told me that he thinks that they'll be happy to maintain a similar site for Fedora, and suggested that i contact them through the form on their site. So I did, but till now i got no response. Regards -- Tareq Al Jurf Fedora Ambassador Riyadh, Saudi Arabia talj...@fedoraproject.org -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Uploading own work
On 12/02/2009 12:39 PM, Tareq Al Jurf wrote: I thought about the same last week. I've found a better way for anyone to upload his work, My Idea is to have a site similar to the sites: linuxmint-art.org http://linuxmint-art.org and ubuntu-art.org... We at the Design Team are looking for la long time for a way to easily share the work, evaluated a number of options and were not happy with any of them. At first we tried to use the wiki, but is hard to navigate and it won't scale: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Wallpaper_Extras Then we had a running instance of Gallery 2 and it lacks a lot of needed features: http://publictest7.fedoraproject.org/gallery2/main.php There are also a good deal of other galleries (like ccHost) but all of them are far from perfect. Oh, and there is this test instance of Plogger, from marketing/ambassadors: http://publictest16.fedoraproject.org/plogger/ I've contacted someone from Mint and he told me that the site is maintained by opendesktop.org http://opendesktop.org . He also told me that he thinks that they'll be happy to maintain a similar site for Fedora, and suggested that i contact them through the form on their site. So I did, but till now i got no response. I am not thrilled about running any part of our infrastructure on a closed platform hosted on a 3-rd party site. Duh! Copyright 2007-2009 openDesktop.org Team -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Uploading own work
Maybe we can establish and host our own similar site using the same (open source) code they're using. What do you think of it? 2009/12/2 Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro On 12/02/2009 12:39 PM, Tareq Al Jurf wrote: I thought about the same last week. I've found a better way for anyone to upload his work, My Idea is to have a site similar to the sites: linuxmint-art.org http://linuxmint-art.org and ubuntu-art.org... We at the Design Team are looking for la long time for a way to easily share the work, evaluated a number of options and were not happy with any of them. At first we tried to use the wiki, but is hard to navigate and it won't scale: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Wallpaper_Extras Then we had a running instance of Gallery 2 and it lacks a lot of needed features: http://publictest7.fedoraproject.org/gallery2/main.php There are also a good deal of other galleries (like ccHost) but all of them are far from perfect. Oh, and there is this test instance of Plogger, from marketing/ambassadors: http://publictest16.fedoraproject.org/plogger/ I've contacted someone from Mint and he told me that the site is maintained by opendesktop.org http://opendesktop.org . He also told me that he thinks that they'll be happy to maintain a similar site for Fedora, and suggested that i contact them through the form on their site. So I did, but till now i got no response. I am not thrilled about running any part of our infrastructure on a closed platform hosted on a 3-rd party site. Duh! Copyright 2007-2009 openDesktop.org Team -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Tareq Al Jurf Fedora Ambassador Riyadh, Saudi Arabia talj...@fedoraproject.org -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: F13 goals and marketing objectives...
Hello all! :D I found this awesome test to choose your Linux Distribution and we could do something like this but to users choose which Fedora .iso download. Sound good? http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ 2009/12/2 Mel Chua m...@redhat.com Throwing some ideas for measurable-ish goals out there: Ported to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/F13_Brainstorm#Potential_goals as well. Ryan, thanks for aggregating and posting the notes! (And also inadvertently reminding me I didn't send out meeting minutes, which I'll do momentarily... I wonder what this email is going to remind somebody of?) --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 Be yourself... Don't be anyone else -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: F13 goals and marketing objectives...
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 08:54 -0430, María Leandro wrote: Hello all! :D I found this awesome test to choose your Linux Distribution and we could do something like this but to users choose which Fedora .iso download. This would be a really cool kind of thing to put on spins.fedoraproject.org to point people to a spin that fits them... ~m -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: F13 goals and marketing objectives...
Yes! and also a small link on get.fedora that could say: Still don't know which Fedora download? Take this test and figured out! (with a better english, of course) 2009/12/2 Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 08:54 -0430, María Leandro wrote: Hello all! :D I found this awesome test to choose your Linux Distribution and we could do something like this but to users choose which Fedora .iso download. This would be a really cool kind of thing to put on spins.fedoraproject.org to point people to a spin that fits them... ~m -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 Be yourself... Don't be anyone else -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Marketing responses to the user research plan
Thanks to Tatica for an awesome user research interview! (It was *so* much fun.) The super-short summary is on the table: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_Research_Plan#Stakeholders The longer summary is on the wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_Research_Plan#Marketing And the raw log is at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2009-11-29/fedora-design.2009-11-29-21.55.log.html. I've also linked it from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#2009. Chime in on the notes if you have anything else to add - I'd love for our stakeholder interview notes to represent as many of our voices as possible. --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Marketing responses to the user research plan
Was a complete pleasure :D 2009/12/2 Mel Chua m...@redhat.com Thanks to Tatica for an awesome user research interview! (It was *so* much fun.) The super-short summary is on the table: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_Research_Plan#Stakeholders The longer summary is on the wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_Research_Plan#Marketing And the raw log is at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2009-11-29/fedora-design.2009-11-29-21.55.log.html. I've also linked it from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#2009. Chime in on the notes if you have anything else to add - I'd love for our stakeholder interview notes to represent as many of our voices as possible. --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 Be yourself... Don't be anyone else -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Post FUDCon Survey
On 12/02/2009 03:25 AM, loupgaroubl...@gmail.com wrote: Hey List, Has there been some thought given to doing a post FUDCon survey like we've done in the past? I asked Mel about this, but she wasn't sure what the status of implementing some survey software was. If possible, i would like to be able to run a small survey (5 questions) about Fedora Live after FUDCon so we can see where it was most effective and where it fell flat. Cheers, Yaakov So, I found https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Archive:Marketing_surveys and noted that we've used email and keysurvey in the past, neither of which sound like actual good long-term solutions to me. I think Robyn was working on getting limesurvey up into our infrastructure, not sure what the status on that is or what remaining work needs to be done before limesurvey hits production. One temporary solution (just for the FUDCon survey) before that goes into production would be http://www.limeservice.com, which is a free hosted limesurvey service (well, the free part comes with usage limitations, but I think it might work as a temporary fix). I hesitate a little at temporary fixes because they have a way of becoming permanent, but if we're vigilant about it... perhaps we go with the temp solution now, and simultaneously schedule a get limesurvey up hackfest at some point? Any other thoughts? --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: F13 goals and marketing objectives...
On 12/02/2009 09:44 AM, María Leandro wrote: Yes! and also a small link on get.fedora that could say: Still don't know which Fedora download? Take this test and figured out! Added to brainstorm list, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/F13_Brainstorm#Spin_chooser. Now we just need to find someone interested in picking up on this. ;) --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Post FUDCon Survey
2009/12/2 Mel Chua m...@redhat.com: On 12/02/2009 03:25 AM, loupgaroubl...@gmail.com wrote: Hey List, Has there been some thought given to doing a post FUDCon survey like we've done in the past? I asked Mel about this, but she wasn't sure what the status of implementing some survey software was. If possible, i would like to be able to run a small survey (5 questions) about Fedora Live after FUDCon so we can see where it was most effective and where it fell flat. Cheers, Yaakov So, I found https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Archive:Marketing_surveys and noted that we've used email and keysurvey in the past, neither of which sound like actual good long-term solutions to me. I think Robyn was working on getting limesurvey up into our infrastructure, not sure what the status on that is or what remaining work needs to be done before limesurvey hits production. One temporary solution (just for the FUDCon survey) before that goes into production would be http://www.limeservice.com, which is a free hosted limesurvey service (well, the free part comes with usage limitations, but I think it might work as a temporary fix). I hesitate a little at temporary fixes because they have a way of becoming permanent, but if we're vigilant about it... perhaps we go with the temp solution now, and simultaneously schedule a get limesurvey up hackfest at some point? FUDCon comes with hackfests. No? -Yaakov -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Post FUDCon Survey
about it... perhaps we go with the temp solution now, and simultaneously schedule a get limesurvey up hackfest at some point? FUDCon comes with hackfests. No? Got time to run one? ;) Most of my energies on Sunday and Monday are going to be going towards getting Fedora Insight launched at the Zikula hackfest (WE WILL NEED HELP. COME HELP US!), so I can't chip in then... --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 12 hits the printed newpapers at Nicaragua
Em 22-11-2009 17:42, Neville A. Cross escreveu: Hello, I want to share that I wrote a few days ago to a technology columnist from El Nuevo Diario. In the mail I included the link to http://proyectofedora.org/wiki/Conoce_Fedora_12 This page is an effort to translate for latam the one page release note for Fedora 12. This effort was lead by Tatica, and I was honored to collaborate. Today, I was looking at the sunday newspaper, and I saw that my mail have a good response: (spanish) http://impreso.elnuevodiario.com.ni/2009/11/22/informatica/114077 I am looking to include this hit in the press archive. As Nicaraguan Launch party is due to December 3rd, I am hoping to have more press hits. Best regards Excellent Neville! Congratulation by the excellent job that Fedora Nicaragua is doing to promote Fedora 12. -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
LinkedIn: so many Fedora-related groups
I carved out some time to do some background on the current LinkedIn Fedora-related groups. As a starting point, I thought I would report out here what I found and suggest some next steps. Fedora (1,733 members) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=49737 Owners/Managers: Francesco Crippa, Paul W. Frields, Pascal Calarco, Jon Stanley Fedora Project (150 members) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=55981 Owner: Marek Mahut Fedora Ambassadors (90 members) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=118086 Owner: Magie Gaffud-Antonio Fedoraproject users (21 members) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=137626 Owner: Henrik Heigl Fedora Tunisia (8 members) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=74564 Owner: M'Barek Nihed The Fedora Project Community in India (8 members) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=715567 Owner: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay RPM Fusion (6 members) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=849277 Owner: Xavier Lamien Fedora Linux (5 members) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1576067; Owner: Naresh Kumar FZUG - Fedora Chinese User Group - Fedora 中文用户组 - Fedora 中文社群 (2 members) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1090317 Owner: Blue (Yijun) Yuan Fedora project (1 member) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2493009 Owner: Ilmars Dinbirs Fedora Bangladesh (1 member) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2102941 Owner: Ashiqur Rahman So there's some overlap in the general groups above. To what extent does everyone think we should try to reduce the number of these? I do think the regional groups are good and serve a different scope of purpose than the general group. If there are a number of us working on the social networking piece who will be at FUDCon, perhaps this might be a candidate for HackFesting Sunday/Monday. - pascal - Pascal Calarco Fedora Ambassador, Indiana, USA Editorial Team, Fedora Weekly News -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Video: 5 Fun Things in Fedora 12
El 30/11/09 13:57, Mel Chua escribió: Oh wow, I'm really glad I did this then - I think casual videos like this can be a really cool way for each of us to show off what we know, because I think everybody approaches Fedora a bit differently and discovers different things so we can learn a lot from each other. Sweet! :) MEME TIME! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ScreenCasting (I use Istanbul) Here is the raw English transcript to translate: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/blog/video/5funthingsf12/5funthingsinf12-transcript.txt So, ah... 0. It was great to see the one-page release notes get localized, and I've heard some requests to try to get the Marketing stuff more i18n'd 1. I'm trying to learn Spanish (and Chinese, for that matter, though it's harder for me to translate things into Chinese). 2. I figure this is as good a way as any to learn how to work with our translation workflow. So, with a lot of help from Google Translate, I took 15 minutes and have... http://mchua.fedorapeople.org/translations/es/5funthingsinf12-transcript-es.txt What should I do next? (Other than get someone to proofread/fix my Spanish.) Thanks for the transcript, Mo - as someone who needs them, I really appreciate subtitles/captions/transcripts. I reckon I should look into getting http://www.jubler.org/ and http://trans.sourceforge.net/en/presentation.php packaged sometime and going on a feedback/bug-reporting spree for both + similar projects. --Mel I'm going through what you wrote, the rough idea is there, but needs a bit of polish... I'm currently working on it and will post it somewhere once I've got it... I've been meaning to do some Spanish translation work for Fedora for years now, but being a physician, and now going through my residency is a bit difficult to find time to work on anything else. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
