Re: Marketing logo/icon has been requested
Thank you nicu, I'm getting crazy with so many fonts in my pc :D team work hoa! 2009/12/16 Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro On 12/15/2009 11:09 PM, Mel Chua wrote: Tatica made us a logo, which you can see on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing - it's actually from a logo she created for the LATAM Marketing group (we have one of those? sweet!), http://proyectofedora.org/wiki/Mercadeo last month. Tatica is doing a lot of awesome stuff on the LATAM community. Source at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:FedoraMarketing.png and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:FedoraMarketing.svg. I updated the ticket with a couple of small improvements (changed the font from URW Gothic to Mgopen Modata and used the actual wordmark for fedora), If you like the modification just update the wiki attachments. To use it, include this text at the top of a wiki page: {{header|marketing}} Enjoy - and thanks, Tatica! Less than two hours from idea to execution, if you look at the timestamps on the ticket. Woo! Agree, she is totally kicking. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 Be yourself... Don't be anyone else -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
[in the news] Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users
Computerworld 12.16.09 Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols [clip] Paul Frields, Red Hat's Fedora Project Leader, described Fedora to me as being first and foremost for users interested in and capable of contributing to open source. So if you're a Linux power user, you're going to love Fedora. If you're not, this probably isn't the distro for you. It's not that Fedora is hard to use. While it's not as beginner-friendly as Ubuntu, most Linux users shouldn't have any trouble working with Fedora even if they're not developers. [clip] For all of its many excellent features, Fedora isn't the best distribution for new or business users. But if you're a user like me who already lives his computing life on Linux, it's a great choice. Full post: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142148/Review_3_top_Linux_distros_go_for_different_users?taxonomyId=18pageNumber=1 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Zikula Weekly Meeting
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:47:27PM -0500, Mel Chua wrote: If you'd like to help, don't know how to package, but want to learn, there are a bunch of us in the same or close-to-the-same situation (me, Karsten, Matthew Daniels, Aaron Clark, etc...) trying to get a Learn To Package! week together - join us on the Classroom (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/classroom, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom) mailing list if you're interested, I'm going to start a thread there now. We were discussing what to tackle, since doing actual classroom work on a package we need makes even more sense, and I'm thinking we should (try) to do a Zikula package; maybe an easier one? Still, though, the week of 4 Jan is awful late for that, I should hope we'd have them all in by then. Can we get a few of y'all to list out to Fedora Planet, maybe fedora-devel-list the specific needs we have? I.e., not just HALp!1! but specific lists of what we know we need so far. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpmxd5px2qv3.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: [in the news] Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 09:03:41AM -0500, Kara Schiltz wrote: Computerworld 12.16.09 Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols [clip] Paul Frields, Red Hat's Fedora Project Leader, described Fedora to me as being first and foremost for users interested in and capable of contributing to open source. So if you're a Linux power user, you're going to love Fedora. If you're not, this probably isn't the distro for you. Hm, that's an interesting takeaway from my quote. Aren't non-power users capable of contributing to FOSS? Aren't non-power users interested in contributing too? I'll endeavor to make that distinction clearer in future interviews -- I usually do so but apparently it wasn't clear in this one. :-) It's not that Fedora is hard to use. While it's not as beginner-friendly as Ubuntu, most Linux users shouldn't have any trouble working with Fedora even if they're not developers. Well, that's nice to hear in any case! Does it partially contradict the assertions above though? [clip] For all of its many excellent features, Fedora isn't the best distribution for new or business users. But if you're a user like me who already lives his computing life on Linux, it's a great choice. Full post: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142148/Review_3_top_Linux_distros_go_for_different_users?taxonomyId=18pageNumber=1 There are a couple of puzzlers in this article, such as the implication that being able to find lesser-known utilities makes a distribution more suitable for the masses. I would argue that the masses don't care about such things. What's most important is a working set of well-integrated functionality that behaves consistently and predictably. The ability to fine tune that later is certainly great, but the average user isn't interested in spending time finding and learning new, off-the-beaten-path utilities. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: [in the news] Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users
On 12/16/2009 05:49 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols [clip] Paul Frields, Red Hat's Fedora Project Leader, described Fedora to me as being first and foremost for users interested in and capable of contributing to open source. So if you're a Linux power user, you're going to love Fedora. If you're not, this probably isn't the distro for you. It's not that Fedora is hard to use. While it's not as beginner-friendly as Ubuntu, most Linux users shouldn't have any trouble working with Fedora even if they're not developers. Well, that's nice to hear in any case! Does it partially contradict the assertions above though? No, I think his idea is something like: if you are a Linux user, you will find Fedora familiar, if you are a Linux *power* user, you will *love* it. There are a couple of puzzlers in this article, such as the implication that being able to find lesser-known utilities makes a distribution more suitable for the masses. I would argue that the masses don't care about such things. What's most important is a working set of well-integrated functionality that behaves consistently and predictably. The ability to fine tune that later is certainly great, but the average user isn't interested in spending time finding and learning new, off-the-beaten-path utilities. Trying to decipher, I think the meaning here is: an user who know little stuff and want to learn as little as possible, will do a Google search, end on some forum, copy/paste a few commands he does not understand and bang! everything is working. I am not sure we want to paint such image about ourselves. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: [in the news] Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 09:03 -0500, Kara Schiltz wrote: Computerworld 12.16.09 Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols [clip] Paul Frields, Red Hat's Fedora Project Leader, described Fedora to me as being first and foremost for users interested in and capable of contributing to open source. So if you're a Linux power user, you're going to love Fedora. If you're not, this probably isn't the distro for you. Whoah that's a leap in logic. ~m -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
FUDCon survey draft - last call for feedback
Robyn put in the survey questions last night (THANK YOU ROBYN!) and I made a couple edits just now and attached the printable version so you can see the questions we're asking so far (the same file is also temporarily up at http://mchua.fedorapeople.org/fudcon-survey-draft.html). Thoughts? Here's what I did just now... * Added a have you been to a FUDCon before? question * Added Tuesday/after-Tuesday as leave-date options since most people left on Tuesday morning. * Added Other suggestions? option for FUDCon Live Other things I can think of... * do we want to add a text box so people can post the URLs of any blog posts/etc they may have written about FUDCon? * should we plug the Events FAD (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events_FAD_2010) and/or the fudcon-planning list (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fudcon-planning) at the end? * I'd like to put some sort of link to the Marketing Research page so folks can see how we put this survey together and that they can help us with it (can haz limesurvey library packagers plz), but that page needs a *lot* of cleanup first. Robyn's on the road right now but we'll be in #fedora-mktg finishing this up and launching it out, probably in something like 1.5 hours (1900 UTC, which is ~2pm EST for me). --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: FUDCon survey draft - last call for feedback
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:37:13PM -0500, Mel Chua wrote: Robyn put in the survey questions last night (THANK YOU ROBYN!) and I made a couple edits just now and attached the printable version so you can see the questions we're asking so far (the same file is also temporarily up at http://mchua.fedorapeople.org/fudcon-survey-draft.html). Thoughts? Here's what I did just now... * Added a have you been to a FUDCon before? question * Added Tuesday/after-Tuesday as leave-date options since most people left on Tuesday morning. * Added Other suggestions? option for FUDCon Live In question 26, I think microblogs + Facebook + LinkedIn could be effectively combined as Status updates via Twitter, Identi.ca, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.. I think a lot of people probably use status-spraying tools that update all of them at once. (That's the if Paul has figured that out, probably lots of other people have too theory.) Other things I can think of... * do we want to add a text box so people can post the URLs of any blog posts/etc they may have written about FUDCon? * should we plug the Events FAD (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events_FAD_2010) and/or the fudcon-planning list (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fudcon-planning) at the end? Yes. * I'd like to put some sort of link to the Marketing Research page so folks can see how we put this survey together and that they can help us with it (can haz limesurvey library packagers plz), but that page needs a *lot* of cleanup first. Robyn's on the road right now but we'll be in #fedora-mktg finishing this up and launching it out, probably in something like 1.5 hours (1900 UTC, which is ~2pm EST for me). -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: FUDCon survey draft - last call for feedback
In question 26, I think microblogs + Facebook + LinkedIn could be effectively combined as Status updates via Twitter, Identi.ca, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.. I think a lot of people probably use status-spraying tools that update all of them at once. (That's the if Paul has figured that out, probably lots of other people have too theory.) Done, thanks! * do we want to add a text box so people can post the URLs of any blog posts/etc they may have written about FUDCon? * should we plug the Events FAD (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events_FAD_2010) and/or the fudcon-planning list (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fudcon-planning) at the end? Yes. Done, except the blog posts are an edit this wiki page! thing now since we're already gathering it elsewhere. Launching in a moment... --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
FUDCon survey: how it was/will be publicized
For future reference, here's what I did/am about to do. * Made a big red take this survey! box on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009 and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009_BarCamp_Schedule so people looking for FUDCon Toronto information will find it (this will have to be updated when the survey closes, btw) * Added it to the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_research#FUDcon_survey section so we can keep track of it * emailed the take this survey please! announcement to fedora-devel-announce, fedora-announce-list, fedora-advisory-board, and fudcon-planning (being sent immediately after this email) * blogged it to Planet (coming momentarily) Time will tell if this was enough. In the meantime, please take the survey and blog it up and such. :) --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: FUDCon survey: how it was/will be publicized
* blogged it to Planet (coming momentarily) So, I made a version with a quickie shiny picture, to test Mo's suggestion of if you want something to get responses, put visuals in it. http://blog.melchua.com/2009/12/16/fudcon-toronto-its-survey-time/ Clearly my adcopy writing skills need work, but it's a start. I'm looking forward to our infrastructure projects being done, because marketing research surveys are probably the sorts of thing we'd like to put out please take me! articles for on Fedora Insight. --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: FUDCon survey: how it was/will be publicized
Re: the picture If you don't recognize the room, but wish you did, or if you heard in a live session that the room was really big but you haven't seen a photo until now... Please take the survey! I'll blog tonight about the writing of the survey :) -robyn On 12/16/09, Mel Chua m...@redhat.com wrote: * blogged it to Planet (coming momentarily) So, I made a version with a quickie shiny picture, to test Mo's suggestion of if you want something to get responses, put visuals in it. http://blog.melchua.com/2009/12/16/fudcon-toronto-its-survey-time/ Clearly my adcopy writing skills need work, but it's a start. I'm looking forward to our infrastructure projects being done, because marketing research surveys are probably the sorts of thing we'd like to put out please take me! articles for on Fedora Insight. --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Sent from my mobile device -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Zikula Weekly Meeting
Can we get a few of y'all to list out to Fedora Planet, maybe fedora-devel-list the specific needs we have? I.e., not just HALp!1! but specific lists of what we know we need so far. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Packaging is what I know about, which mostly links to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status. At our first meeting we should go through and make sure that list is up to date, and then go HALP! --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Marketing logo/icon has been requested
I updated the ticket with a couple of small improvements (changed the font from URW Gothic to Mgopen Modata and used the actual wordmark for fedora), If you like the modification just update the wiki attachments. Updated, thanks! Ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/110#comment:4 See the difference in the logos: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:FedoraMarketing.png https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:FedoraMarketing.svg Revised logo in action: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list