Re: F13 Schedule - question!
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:02:36AM -0500, Mel Chua wrote: > On 12/21/2009 03:01 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > >On poelcat's F13 draft schedule (see: > >http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13-draft/f-13-marketing-tasks.html), > >tasks 13 and 15 are to update / freeze the Fedora tour page. Since > >we're doing the one-page release notes in lieu of the Fedora tour > >page, should we remove those tasks from the schedule (I'm assuming > >so...)? > > Yes. > > >Should the one-page release notes draft / completion dates be > >rearranged to be more in line with when the Fedora tour pages were > >done, or are we comfortable with those dates and how they fall into > >the grander scheme of things? > > The completion dates for the one-page/tour as we have them right now > are good, but this was a good sanity check to run. > > >Also - shall we put a note on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tours > >reflecting that we now do one-pg release notes instead of Tours, so > >that anyone looking for a Tour isn't wondering why the heck we didn't > >have one for F12 (or F13, and so forth)? > > Yes! We should do this when we revise the SOPs. > > Thanks for bringing this up, Robyn - I think we're shaping up to > have a really solid F13 schedule. Now all we have to do is clean up > Trac. :) Late, but +1 to Robyn's suggestion on eliminating confusion with a link. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Openoffice.org EOL announcement
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 07:47:00PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > I like the FAQ they have in the EOL announcement. Fedora could learn > from this. > > http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announce&msgNo=407 I added this link to the EOL SOP currently under development: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life_SOP I also added a link to that page on the main EOL page so it would be easier for you or anyone else to help contribute directly to it. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Thanks to David Ramsey for starting a F13 Slogan page!
(from https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-December/msg00327.html) On 12/29/2009 12:03 AM, David Ramsey wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings. :) > > = > > I like this "Fedora 12 one page release notes" - > > A very professional looking page. :) > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes > > = > > I like the Fedora 12 'Constantine' "F12 release slogan" - > > Unite. :) > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan > > = > > I have made an update for Fedora 13 "Goddard" - > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables > > for the "F13 release slogan" - > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan Thanks for making the page, David! We'll be making the big "help us pick a slogan!" public call for participation in February (see task #5 in http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-marketing-tasks.html) but starting early is almost never a bad idea. ;) --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fwd: Re: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users
Forwarded with Michael Tiemann's permission. The short version: should we look into (1) figuring out an optional (opt-in, I'd suggest) tweak to get Fedora-specific search results when looking for Linux howtos, and/or (2) SEO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization) at some point? --Mel Original Message Subject: Re: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:13:05 -0500 From: Michael Tiemann Kara Schiltz wrote: Computerworld 12.16.09 Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols [clip] Paul Frields, Red Hat's Fedora Project Leader, described Fedora to me as being "first and foremost for users interested in and capable of contributing to open source." So if you're a Linux power user, you're going to love Fedora. If you're not, this probably isn't the distro for you. I just installed Fedora 12 (DVD iso x86_64) this past weekend on a very hostile piece of hardware: an old MacBookPro version 2,1. By hostile I mean that it's now old enough to reject the installation of modern versions of Mac OSX. The installation process went perfectly smoothly until it was time to reboot, and that failed because the MBR and/or the GPT has a "bootable" flag that needed to be reset. I reset the flag, and then grub failed. Some googling led me to question whether my ext4 boot partition was really a proper choice, and when I backed up /boot to some temp space in my rescued filesystem image, reformatted /boot as ext2, and restored the contents, everything worked perfectly thereafter. WIN! What does this have to do with Ubuntu, the implied distro for non-power users, you might ask? I have yet to find a way to search via Google for answers to my Fedora problems without Ubuntu being a prominent, if not nearly exclusive search result. Well, that's not quite true...by adding +fedora -ubuntu I start to get the kinds of results I'm looking for, but by golly for all that Google is supposed to be my Big Brother, it keeps trying to lead me away from Fedora and over to Ubuntu. If there were some way to make technical support help focus on the OS installed on one's machine, I think we'd find at least a level playing field. Any way we could set up Mozilla preferences (and other browsers) to treat "Linux" like Fedora? M -- GPG Key: F0AD 3368 D24A 56CD A2AD 6A12 CAB3 2E89 EA0A C0E4 The structure of world peace cannot be the work of one man, or one party, or one nation...it must be a peace which rests on the cooperative effort of the whole world. -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt Part of the tragedy is of the artist is that there is no real goal in achieving what you are naturally good at. The real satisfaction lies in the things you accomplish by practice and effort. -- Joris van den Berg, commenting on the death of H. Cartier Bresson Dream so big you can share -- me -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Thanks to David Ramsey for starting a F13 Slogan page!
Fun! I filled in my placeholder for my idea from when I built the template page, since I couldn't contain it anymore. "Rock it!" ;) On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Mel Chua wrote: > (from > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-December/msg00327.html) > > On 12/29/2009 12:03 AM, David Ramsey wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Greetings. :) >> >> = >> >> I like this "Fedora 12 one page release notes" - >> >> A very professional looking page. :) >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes >> >> = >> >> I like the Fedora 12 'Constantine' "F12 release slogan" - >> >> Unite. :) >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan >> >> = >> >> I have made an update for Fedora 13 "Goddard" - >> >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables >> >> for the "F13 release slogan" - >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan > > Thanks for making the page, David! > > We'll be making the big "help us pick a slogan!" public call for > participation in February (see task #5 in > http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-marketing-tasks.html) > but starting early is almost never a bad idea. ;) > > --Mel > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Re: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users
A few "first blush" thoughts, I'll think more on this though: 1) Tiemann's idea on setting preferences to treat "linux" as "fedora" is interesting. One problem I can see with that is that if the browser with the preferences is, say, not yet installed because the user is going through some process similar to what he's went through below, and they happen to be a first-time user or this is (or going to be) their only Fedora machine, then they're defaulting to going and using google on their "other" machine, which isn't going to have those preferences anyhow. 2) Unless we make the distinction -VERY VERY- clear when people are installing that we are going to be slightly altering their google results via some set preference, I could see a lot of community uproar over this, particularly from developers who are developing / testing on multiple platforms, who don't necessarily want to have fedora-tuned results. 3) All that said - rather than changing preferences, doing something like a Fedora toolbar that is a plug-in to the browser might be a better idea. We could probably include a google search box that would tune search results, links to community "stuff" like mailing lists and documentation, etc. (And Fedora Insight!) We could recommend that people install it (a) when they're installing the Fedora OS, and/or (b) when they're downloading it, quite possibly from a machine that is -not- the machine they will be installing it on, and would be the machine they would be consulting in the very unlikely situation that they do not have a flawless installation. :) ie: "Installing Fedora? We don't anticipate that you'll need our help. But if you do, this toolbar has the magic." 4) SEO -never- hurts. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mel Chua wrote: > Forwarded with Michael Tiemann's permission. The short version: should we > look into (1) figuring out an optional (opt-in, I'd suggest) tweak to get > Fedora-specific search results when looking for Linux howtos, and/or (2) SEO > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization) at some point? > > --Mel > > Original Message > Subject: Re: Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users > Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:13:05 -0500 > From: Michael Tiemann > > Kara Schiltz wrote: >> >> Computerworld >> 12.16.09 >> >> Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users >> By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols >> >> [clip] >> >> Paul Frields, Red Hat's Fedora Project Leader, described Fedora to me >> as being "first and foremost for users interested in and capable of >> contributing to open source." So if you're a Linux power user, you're >> going to love Fedora. If you're not, this probably isn't the distro >> for you. > > I just installed Fedora 12 (DVD iso x86_64) this past weekend on a very > hostile piece of hardware: an old MacBookPro version 2,1. By hostile I > mean that it's now old enough to reject the installation of modern > versions of Mac OSX. The installation process went perfectly smoothly > until it was time to reboot, and that failed because the MBR and/or the > GPT has a "bootable" flag that needed to be reset. I reset the flag, > and then grub failed. Some googling led me to question whether my ext4 > boot partition was really a proper choice, and when I backed up /boot to > some temp space in my rescued filesystem image, reformatted /boot as > ext2, and restored the contents, everything worked perfectly > thereafter. WIN! > > What does this have to do with Ubuntu, the implied distro for non-power > users, you might ask? > > I have yet to find a way to search via Google for answers to my Fedora > problems without Ubuntu being a prominent, if not nearly exclusive > search result. Well, that's not quite true...by adding +fedora -ubuntu > I start to get the kinds of results I'm looking for, but by golly for > all that Google is supposed to be my Big Brother, it keeps trying to > lead me away from Fedora and over to Ubuntu. > > If there were some way to make technical support help focus on the OS > installed on one's machine, I think we'd find at least a level playing > field. Any way we could set up Mozilla preferences (and other browsers) to > treat "Linux" like Fedora? > > M > > -- > GPG Key: F0AD 3368 D24A 56CD A2AD 6A12 CAB3 2E89 EA0A C0E4 > > The structure of world peace cannot be the work of one man, or one > party, or one nation...it must be a peace which rests on the cooperative > effort of the whole world. -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt > > Part of the tragedy is of the artist is that there is no real goal in > achieving what you are naturally good at. The real satisfaction lies in > the things you accomplish by practice and effort. > -- Joris van den Berg, commenting on the death of H. Cartier Bresson > > Dream so big you can share -- me > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fed
