Re: Fedora 9 Media Supplies
> Hi all, > Many of my class mates would like to get the Fedora 9 media, where can I > request the supplies for this? I'm happy that many of us are moving to > open > source! :) > > Thanks, > Grady Erm do you mean in with cd/dvd's? If so you will have to request it from the wiki. Do a search for freemedia. If you mean downloading the cd/dvd's from http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Red Hat's Challenge
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/Red-Hats-Challenge/ "While Linux is as good and perhaps better suited to the needs of knowledge workers who do not require Windows-only applications—a category into which I fall—the lack of an identity and management solution for Linux that's comparable to Microsoft's Active Directory and Group Policy is retarding Linux's growth. But based so far on my tests of Red Hat's Fedora 9, which is due in late April, the pieces required to fill this gap for Linux—namely, the PolicyKit management and FreeIPA identity components that make their debut in this Fedora—are starting to fall into place." It's mainly about Red Hat but it very much explains Fedora as an unstable Red Hat which to me does not credit Fedora sufficiently. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: naming discussion for Fedora community grid project (previously aka [EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 16:59 -0400, Bryan Che wrote: > Hi, as a follow-up to my proposal to create a Fedora community grid > project > (http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-March/msg00022.html) > > and our discussion at fedora-advisory-board regarding naming > (http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-March/msg00100.html), > > I asked John Adams and some of the creative people at Red Hat to help us > brainstorm names for this project. They did a great job, and I've > attached the output of their work. Note that these names are all just > suggestions and starting points for conversation. > > Please provide input on names. I'll let the conversation go for a week > and then put up a consensus vote on 4/4 as to what we will name this > project. > > Thanks, > > Bryan I like REM Cycle or the Fedora Dream Project Fedora Group Intelligence sounds sophisticated while I like it as well people might think they have nothing to offer. Also Turbine as well is good for me. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Introduction
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 09:48 -0700, Grady Laksmono wrote: > Hi all, > I'm Grady Laksmono, I'm an undergraduate Computer Science student at > California State University, Los Angeles. I'm also an independent web > developer and consultant. I use Fedora 8 in my PC, love it, and would > like to be involved with Fedora Project. I wanted to be active and > promote Fedora by becoming Ambassador and OS Developers. I'm quite new > with Linux kernel development, but I'm a quick learner. I always want > to learn more! > > Thanks, > Grady Laksmono > www.laksmono.com > Hi Grady and Welcome. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Aaron Yates
Welcome :) On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 15:46 +, Aaron Yates wrote: > Hello to all, > > I'd like to join the Fedora marketing team, and believe I have to > submit a self introduction, of which I have included bellow. > > Aaron Yates > > London, United Kingdom (BST, GMT+1) > > I am currently on my University placement in London with Siren World > Wide Ltd, a professional services company working in On Demand, > Digital Marketing and Telephony. My degree programme is BSc Digital > Art and Technology at the University of Plymouth, Devon, UK. > > As part of the Fedora project I'd ideally like to contribute to > expanding Fedora's user base via different mediums and channels, > whilst improving my knowledge of the OS and the community surrounding > and expanding Fedora. > > I have previous experience in Web development and design across the > typical platforms and mobile devices. Relevant experience pertaining > to this community is 4 years part time work during my schooling for an > Events company, based in the Midlands, UK, for a wide range of > charities, corporate events and weddings. By the end of my time with > this company I was regularly managing groups of up to 30 staff, as > part of a much larger team, to achieve a successful event for both the > client and the teams of staff involved. In my current position on > placement, I am a part of the creative team, but liaise closely with > the accounts department to visit clients to aide in presentations and > pitches. > > Thank you for your time, > > Best regards, > > Aaron Yates > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Meeting Minutes of Fedora EMEA NPO Meeting
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 22:00 +0100, Robert Scheck wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Obviously I'm unfamiliar with German law, but there *are* packages that > > handle invoicing, balancing, etc. And people say the American > > legal system is hostile to open source... > > Please be aware, that ERP/GnuCash etc. != NPO management software. Managing > regular memberships or similar things is not the goal the software you have > mentioned in your mails. > > A membership is a yearly fee, not a product. And if somebody has to add the > "membership product" to all of the members yearly, it isn't IMHO the target > audience - just to name an example. > > > Greetings, > Robert > If you are talking about a full fleshed out NPO Management software I would say that you would have to find one. I'm an accountant/auditor now as my full time job and personally GnuCash if you manipulate it or Kmymoney is very good. I say this because as an accountant it is pretty easy to set up. I'm not to sure what German Law has to abide but if it's documenting who has donated etc. then there is a notes section in both those software packages. Other packages which include a whole range of different things such as PHP CRM packages which have components for accounting and things like that. It's going to take a bit to set up, if you are going to purchase software well you are going to be paying for the software and also for the setting up. Any help that you want give me a yell offlist but I've had a good look at some of the packages around. Also actual knowledge of Gnucash apart from basic know how there is a guy on IRC who uses it for his business. Have a chat to him his IRC nick is "Southern Gentlemen" Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Beta Release Notes
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Jonathan Roberts wrote: Anybody able to give me a definition of exactly what the beta release is!? i.e. feature complete? targeted at which set of users?! Or if somebody could point me in the right direction.. Refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Schedule http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Schedule Beta is feature freeze and string freeze. Alpha is targeted for developers. Beta for early adopters and Release Candidate for full community participation. Rahul So whats going on with the single source summary then does that get replaced with the beta release notes? Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Beta Freeze - argh!
I have added some sections to it. I've tried to target it to the user experience and keep it simple. I've added links to more information if the user is interested. I hope I didn't go over the top but I've kept it as simple as possible while still trying to explain the benefit. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Beta Freeze - argh!
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 15:45 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Argh indeed - I'm worried I'm going down the wrong direction with > respect to the release overview and putting in too much information! > > After chatting to kanarip in IRC a bit about it, I think there are two > approaches I can see this going in myself. The first is the current > one: > > - > > Bluetooth > > Bluetooth is becoming an increasingly ubiquitous technology for > sharing information wirelessly across short distances: it's found in > mobile phones, games controllers, hands-free headsets and computers. > With this in mind, Fedora developers are working hard to make sure the > end-user experience is as pleasant an out of the box experience as > possible. Fedora 9 introduces a number of new capabilities: > > * work with a bluetooth printer as you would any local printer > * use mobile phones and PDAs as a remote control > * control a mobile's call and messaging functions from a computer > * contact and calendar information synchronisation > > More details and documentation can be found on the feature's wiki page. > > - > > And the second is the new option: > > - > > Bluetooth > > Fedora 9 will make it easy to use bluetooth in a large number of > different situations including working with your bluetooth printer and > synchronising all your contact and calendar information with mobile > devices. > > More details and documentation can be found on the feature's wiki page. > > - > > Maybe there's even room for both!? Or maybe there's a third way? All > this release overview/summary/notes stuff still makes my head spin! > Hopefully somebody can set me straight :) > > Best wishes, > > Jon > I like the second type personally with links to the more detailed summary pages. My $0.02 any suggestions from anyone else? Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Beta Freeze - argh!
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 19:52 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Argh all, the beta freeze is coming soon (next week according the > e-mail I just saw!) and so I'm thinking we really need to start work > on the release overview. > > If you want to start filling out and updating > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/SingleSourceSummary that would > be really super awesome! I'll do my best to get on with it as well, > though getting towards the end of term here isn't great timing :S > > Thoughts/ideas/feedback/questions?! > > Best wishes, > > Jon > Do we have anything up at all yet? Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: ubuntu marketing
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 12:30 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Valent Turkovic > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the idea: > > Can there be a script on Fedora desktop that says something like this: > > "Install Flash Player" that enables adobe yum repository, presents the > > licence and if users agree goes > > out and install the flash plugin. > > I will not support that. In fact I will actively lobby against > including a Fedora specific enhancement that directs people to > proprietary executable code. > > > -jef > I have to agree with Jef on this. +1 from me. Yes I use the ati drivers and the flash plugin but I make sure I use open source ones every release to see if it's fixed and post appropriate bugs. I did this with the ipw3945 iwl3945 and now I don't need the ipw3945 drivers. This is important because the bugs people report help the dev's fix the issues. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Best way to announce things?
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 11:38 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like some ideas from people. Fedora does *loads* of cool stuff > that isn't just development work, but community enabling work. While I > think the interviews work well to promote the development, and FWN > does a great job of documenting how the development happens and all > the internal goings on in the community, I think we need another > mechanism for letting people know about cool infrastructure and > community enabling stuff that goes on. > > Things I have in mind needing some kind of attention are the new > collaboration server; fedorapeople.org; the open build tools; > transifex; publican etc etc etc > > For publican we put up a "press release" on red hat's press blog, and > hopefully when we get news.fedoraproject.org sorted we can put those > sorts of announcements on there too. But is this the best way to do > things? Or is there another approach we could take? There's no need in > my mind for two approaches to be mutually exclusive either, one could > compliment the other. But I want to make sure we're doing the best we > can and getting the most attention we can for all the *awesome* > extra-development stuff that goes on! > > Hope everyone is having a nice day! > > Jon > I remember ages ago that there was discussion of a wiki page that pointed to a whole heap of e-marketing links or something. I'm not sure if that page has ever been created. Regards, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Windows -> Fedora -> Windows
> So probably the main reasons were: > - users familiar with Windo ws at home resist change; > - no laptops with Linux (Fedora in their case) pre-installed by the OEM. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > Yeah I got but then further on they complain about windows again. My question is that further on they start to complain about windows all over again so really what have they gained? Regards, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Windows -> Fedora -> Windows
This is a wierd article since I still don't understand why they switched back to windows. http://www.itwire.com/content/view/16721/1090/1/0/ "The move ended up saving a lot of money in licensing costs. Initially, the school used Red Hat Linux; later Fedora, Red Hat's community distribution, was used. The money saved was used to upgrade hardware at the school and also to provide for more PCs." Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Generic Fedora Poster Designs for Events
On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 12:51 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Feb 9, 2008 5:12 AM, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I've updated the posters using the color suggestions from John Adams and > > the text Paul Frields gave me in my blog [1] (with one minor mod) and > > some layout suggestions from Robin Norwood in IRC (the original design > > had the infinity sign flattened, it's readjusted to resemble its > > position in the logo and some of the sizing of the logo elements is > > changed.) I'm pretty satisfied with where they are at now, what do you > > think? > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral#head-3eacb7cfafb67dcefa9870863e51c8c16745db02 > > > > I think the copy is good enough now that if you'd like to translate the > > poster please feel free. The font that I created this with is MgOpen > > Modata which is OFL and available in Fedora, by the way. > > > > Thanks to everyone who helped out and provided feedback and > > encouragement, it is greatly appreciated! > > > > Thanks, > > ~m > > > > [1] http://mihmo.livejournal.com/52591.html?nc=14 > > You probably know what I'm about to say :) > I liked your lively colors, maybe some correction was needed but this > pallete makes it too "powerfull" ie. too dull for me, but I love the > design and I will translate it. > > Cheers, > Valent. > I love it. Damn good work as is all your work. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Generic Fedora Poster Designs for Events
On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 16:06 -0500, John Adams wrote: > Dull ... or powerful? :) At the very least, consistent. And > recognizable. > > http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/06/0628_reputation/source/2.htm > > http://www.moma.org/collection/printable_view.php?object_id=79809 > > I understand the concept of brand consistency and while I would love to have the art people create beautiful art and not be restricted, I personally think that keeping the brand colours is important. The link to Coca-Cola is one such example. The other is Dell who uses their name more so than their colours. Fedora has just recreated it's brand lets not give a different impression otherwise it will get confusing. > > Valent Turkovic wrote: > > On Feb 7, 2008 9:02 PM, John Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I think these look great. I really like the idea of breaking down the > >> message into the three distinct stories (although I admittedly haven't > >> read the copy too closely yet). From a brand manager's perspective, I > >> would agree with the suggestion to revisit the background colors. I > >> would recommend staying close to the Fedora "core" brand colors: blue, > >> black and white. If the intent is to use these at events, and it's > >> possible that the three posters would exist side-by-side, think about > >> the *STRONG* brand statement that would make ... even from far away / > >> across the ballroom. > >> > >> JQA > >> > > > > Please don't make it just blue, or bluish. if it is low contrast it > > won't catch peoples eyes. I personally like colors Mairin choose, and > > I understand your brand color issue but too strict branding rules > > sometimes have opposite effect to the brand (dull looking) IMO. > > > > Cheers, > > Valent. > > > > > > -- > John Q. Adams > Brand Manager | Red Hat > Brand Communications + Design > 919.754.4471 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Alpha Release Day Metrics
On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 10:48 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > > We've also got some nice social networking tools we can use: > > > > * At any given moment there are 200+ people logged in to #fedora-devel. > > If we dropped in one or two digg requests a day it might not be annoying > > > > * There are a few Fedora groups in Mugshot > > > > Of course, at some point this is all annoying for everyone to be > > barraged with "digg this" requests. > > > > One place that it might make sense to send digg requests is fedora-list. > > However, I don't see any such requests (at least, not with 'digg' in the > > subject) for the last four or five months. > > > > Maybe if a few times a week we pick one of the items sent to > > f-marketing-l and make it a digg request on fedora-list? > > The one thing I'm always aware of with this is to emphasise that they > read the article first and digg if they enjoy it. I know it sounds > silly, and I'm sure many will just digg without reading, but otherwise > it's not so in the spirit of sites like digg :) > +1 I like this idea > But besides that, I like this idea... > > Best wishes, > > Jon > Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 9 KDE Live Screenshots
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 21:15 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > "With Fedora living on the front-line of Linux technologies, Fedora 9 > Sulphur will be shipping with KDE 4.0 as opposed to holding off until > KDE 4.1 with Fedora 10." > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=992&num=1 > > I thought Fedora 9 will be shipping KDE 4.0.x? > > Cheers, > > Marc > http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Screenshots_Fedora_9_KDE_Live_Alpha If your bored :) Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora 9 KDE Live Screenshots
"With Fedora living on the front-line of Linux technologies, Fedora 9 Sulphur will be shipping with KDE 4.0 as opposed to holding off until KDE 4.1 with Fedora 10." http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=992&num=1 I thought Fedora 9 will be shipping KDE 4.0.x? Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
We suck at explaining stuff
http://mugshot.org/visit?post=A4qnm617gmRBRx Interesting post. Do you think he has a point. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Marketing Idea
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 09:26 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 03:20 +0300, Zhukov Pavel wrote: > > On Feb 3, 2008 3:13 AM, Marc Wiriadisastra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 02:59 +0300, Zhukov Pavel wrote: > > > > One of the major reasons of ubuntu success it's free cd-shipping > > > > (especially in Russia, where many people have no fast/unlimited > > > > Internet access). So I'm start to thinking about something like > > > > "Fedora Exchange" project. It can be system that can help people to > > > > find nearest fedora-user who can copy > > > > install-media/packages/local-repositories. > > > > > > > > It also can help people to find nearest linux/feodra gurus for help :) > > > > > > > > > > Do you mean something like the freemedia program. > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia?highlight=% > > > 28freemedia%29 > > > > > > It's done by volunteers such as tchung, me and a heap of others we all > > > try and get as many pieces of media out but it's still limited. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > -- > > > > No. I mean something like a global map, where people can post their > > locations. > > > > For example, i have f8 media and live in Russia. People from my city > > can have no fast/unlim lines so they can go to "Fedora exchange" page, > > locate our city and just get copies from me. > > > > It's the same thing. The only difference is that you are mailing it. > > I understand what you are saying, but we would need a significant amount > of people to carry this out. At the moment we do not have this amount of > people, we do the best we can. > > If you wanted to help people in Russia just accept requests from Russia. > I do that in Australia where I will mail only people in Australia and > because of that it works out easier for everyone else. > > The biggest number at the moment is from the USA so really if we had > another 3-4 people in the USA distributing Fedora that would lighten the > load. > > Cheers, > > Marc > India needs help as well. There used to be a few people but for some reason thats dropped off which is disappointing. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Marketing Idea
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 03:20 +0300, Zhukov Pavel wrote: > On Feb 3, 2008 3:13 AM, Marc Wiriadisastra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 02:59 +0300, Zhukov Pavel wrote: > > > One of the major reasons of ubuntu success it's free cd-shipping > > > (especially in Russia, where many people have no fast/unlimited > > > Internet access). So I'm start to thinking about something like > > > "Fedora Exchange" project. It can be system that can help people to > > > find nearest fedora-user who can copy > > > install-media/packages/local-repositories. > > > > > > It also can help people to find nearest linux/feodra gurus for help :) > > > > > > > Do you mean something like the freemedia program. > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia?highlight=% > > 28freemedia%29 > > > > It's done by volunteers such as tchung, me and a heap of others we all > > try and get as many pieces of media out but it's still limited. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Marc > > > > -- > > No. I mean something like a global map, where people can post their locations. > > For example, i have f8 media and live in Russia. People from my city > can have no fast/unlim lines so they can go to "Fedora exchange" page, > locate our city and just get copies from me. > It's the same thing. The only difference is that you are mailing it. I understand what you are saying, but we would need a significant amount of people to carry this out. At the moment we do not have this amount of people, we do the best we can. If you wanted to help people in Russia just accept requests from Russia. I do that in Australia where I will mail only people in Australia and because of that it works out easier for everyone else. The biggest number at the moment is from the USA so really if we had another 3-4 people in the USA distributing Fedora that would lighten the load. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Marketing Idea
On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 19:12 -0500, Jon Stanley wrote: > The FreeMedia program already exists - but it's completely volunteer > based. Last month, the first month that I participated in the > program, we got around 700 requests in a 2-day period where we were > accepting requests for the month. > > The problem that we have is a lack of resources to ship out these > DVD's for free. I restrict myself to the US, and even that costs me > $1.31 per DVD to ship via first class mail, in addition to the cost of > the media itself, and the padded mailers that I use ($1+ apiece). > > Such a program is not cheap, and I'm not sure how Ubuntu sustains it > (unless it;s similar to ours, where we will send out the first 200 > requests in a month or so). It's done volume based because the cd's are not that expensive. As an example for me a dvd will cost $0.50 AUD shipping it will cost me $0.50 AUD locally anywhere in Australia. The most expensive is the special envelopes which are made for cd/dvd's which cost $1.00 each. Karlie will be able to explain more about volume since she is involved with the sponsored media aspect of freemedia. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 9 Marketing plan?
On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 19:05 -0500, Jon Stanley wrote: > On Feb 2, 2008 6:59 PM, Zhukov Pavel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > KDE 4.0.1 already in rawhide AFAIK. > > Yep, kdebase-4.0.1-1.fc9.i386.rpm is in the tree that I'm installing > from. That's something of a major change, right? Should I point that > out if I show KDE stuff? Or is the "these bits are newer than alpha" > disclaimer good enough? > If it is basically it's kde4 with lots of bug fixes. When I last used KDE it was 4 so it was pretty buggy. 4.0.1 is a bug fix release on 4 so there are no new bits just bug fixes. Quite important. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Marketing Idea
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 02:59 +0300, Zhukov Pavel wrote: > One of the major reasons of ubuntu success it's free cd-shipping > (especially in Russia, where many people have no fast/unlimited > Internet access). So I'm start to thinking about something like > "Fedora Exchange" project. It can be system that can help people to > find nearest fedora-user who can copy > install-media/packages/local-repositories. > > It also can help people to find nearest linux/feodra gurus for help :) > Do you mean something like the freemedia program. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia?highlight=% 28freemedia%29 It's done by volunteers such as tchung, me and a heap of others we all try and get as many pieces of media out but it's still limited. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 9 Marketing plan?
On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 18:52 -0500, Jon Stanley wrote: > Unfortunately, I'm not @redhat.com and don't have access to the Alpha > bits quite yet. What I do have, though, is the rawhide bits, and I am > currently running through an install in VMWare to highlight some of > the important installer features, such as the ability to setup proxies > for a network install, the presence of encrypted partitions by default > (thus strengthening our security stance), and probably some other > things. I'll write about this on my blog, the caveat there being that > this was done off a newer tree than alpha. > > I'll probably hit on FF3 and KDE4 as well (though I don't know > anything about KDE3, let alone KDE4 :) ). > KDE 4 is still a bit buggy but it looks really really nice. I believe Fedora will have KDE4.0.x so that will be a big plus. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Tasks set by Marketing Meeting on IRC
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 18:27 -0500, Colby Hoke wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks > > Just updated this - feel free to add anything I may have missed. > > We'll announce the next meeting soon - for those that could not join us, > I hope to have a meeting late at night (for me) where we can discuss any > ideas you folks around the world have. > > Also, look for the IRC log to be up soon. > > We'll be discussing more this week on-list. > > > Thanks to everyone that showed up! > > -- > Colby A. Hoke > > Corporate Marketing > [ Producer ] > > 919.621.8802 > It seems like a lot of things are starting to get going it's great to see. Thanks for the link it's great to see whats going to happen. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: agenda for SIG meeting
On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 15:10 -0500, Colby Hoke wrote: > Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > What would we like to discuss at tomorrow's meeting? > > > > We can populate this page ... > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Meetings#Next_Meeting > > > > Some topics that have been open recently: > > > > * Report on state of Fedora's marketing needs from available marketing > > professionals > > > > * What is the Fedora brand? > > > > * Work on the Marketing Messaging Guide (due March 2008) > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/MarketingMessagingGuide > > > > * Marketing Plan (due March 2008) > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Plan > > > > * Task tracking for Marketing > > * Would we benefit from Trac? > > * Or should we start with the lighterweight wiki approach? > > * Comments from the list: > > * RahulSundaram: "Yep. Trac is definitely better than a wiki for > > tracking things that need to be completed within a deadline." > > > > * What else? > > > > - Karsten > > > That looks all good to me, we're free to accept any more ideas during > the meeting as well. > > It's still set for 1900UTC in #fedora-meeting > > -- > Colby A. Hoke > > Corporate Marketing > [ Producer ] > > 919.621.8802 > For those other people that want to know what time UTC is in local time. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=30&year=2008&hour=19&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 Also sadly I can't make it since it's 4am my time. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 9 name
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 18:23 -0600, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote: > Rahul Sundaram escribió: > > All of the codenames are those suggested in the fedora-devel thread. > > Read it if you want the details. > > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-December/msg01000.html > > > > > > > > Rahul > > > > > Ok, so since pretty much this time around there was a total > dis-coordination between -devel and -marketing, how about, in the > future, have an IRC meeting or two simultaneous threads in -devel and > -marketing to propose codenames, and then the usual process could > continue? I mean I know the names have to cleared by legal and all, but > in the end, the codename is ultimately also a marketing "jingle", so I > don't see why -devel and -marketing lists should antagonize on it. > Last time something came to marketing such as the slogan there was mass communication from a significant number of people and yet nothing happened. We are still without a slogan as of now. I would prefer it if devel put up names at least from recent history devel get things done while marketing seems to be at a stand still. I'm a member of both devel and marketing I didn't propose any names. I would prefer it if it was a marketing effort but in the current form marketing is just a news list without any direction sadly. I'm hoping this will change now with the new influx of people who know about marketing (RH Folks) and some direction from our current and past fearless leaders. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Self-Introduction | John Adams, Red Hat Brand Manager
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 14:46 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > On 22/01/2008, John Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greetings, Fedora Marketing List! > > > > My name is John Adams, and I joined Red Hat in July 2007 as Brand > > Manager in the Corporate Marketing group. In my role, I help to define > > brand strategies both for the corporate brand itself (Red Hat) as well > > as our portfolio of product brands. Prior to joining Red Hat, I spent > > several years managing brands in the snack food, apparel and retail > > industries, most recently as a Brand Manager at Lowe's Home Improvement > > (where I developed and managed a portfolio of 50+ private label brands). > > > > The reason I am telling you this? I am eager to get involved with > > Fedora and leverage my skill set to help out however I can with Fedora > > brand management. My relevant experience is in the areas of brand > > positioning development, brand strategy, brand architecture, naming, > > trademark management, and the evaluation of brand design elements > > (including logo, package design, and marketing collateral). > > > > Please know that I am a resource for the community and look forward to > > helping out however I can. Feel free to email me directly ... my > > contact info is below. > > > > Thanks! > > John > > > > -- > > John Q. Adams > > Brand Manager | Red Hat > > Brand Communications + Design > > 919.754.4471 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank you John, > We're so glad you're available to us as a valuable resource. > I'm sure some of us are looking forward to working with you. :) > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > +1 Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: introduce myself
Welcome Aboard!!! On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 23:39 +1300, brendon wrote: > Hi there one and all, I am emailing the mailing list to introduce > myself. > > My name is Brendon Toogood, I come from new zealand, my main aim is to > get Linux/open source more out to the general public and in to the > business sector. I am running FC8 but in the past i have used FC2,3,4 > for a few years after I used a couple of other distributions to see what > they were like and compare them. (there were debian based and that is as > far as I will go on the list). > > I would like to do my part in the marketing of the Fedora project so > that is why I am here in this mailing list to see in any way in which I > can help, and do my part. > > yours > Brendon Toogood > Linux consultant > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: revitalize, FUDCon results, and an RFC
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 14:26 -0800, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > We had a great marketing session[0] with Leigh Day at FUDCon, and one of > the results is a plan to create a sustainable Fedora marketing plan by > March. This gets us ready for Fedora 9. > > Work can commence here: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/MarketingMessagingGuide > > To get things started I'm taking on a lead wrangler role for that guide. > > We also agreed in that meeting that we're going to more carefully > enforce on-topic and off-topic for this mailing list. This means some > discussions are requested to go to other lists. This will help our > collaboration with some of the marketing professionals we've invited to > work on Fedora marketing. > > Finally, I'm proposing that we form a Marketing SIG and have regular IRC > meetings to help our collaboration move rapidly. > > Once we've completed our marketing plan, it should be relatively stable > for some time. We can then evaluate maintaining or disbanding the SIG. A bit of light reading with a general idea.[0] I personally believe this process while is helping marketing should take on a significant portion of the SIG's and groups within Fedora. You might say why? Well from my opinion and my knowledge from marketing that I've done (very small) and from friends who are in marketing already they believe it should be wide ranging.(I'm hoping for RH wise people to speak up at this point) If we are going to come up with a marketing plan and direction we will need to have input from all sources within this great distribution. We need to know what messages people are trying to portray, what we want to get across, what we stand for and who our customers are. I would like the Fedora board to get involved in the process just like any committee involved in marketing their business/product. Cheers, Marc [0] http://www.business.gov.au/Business+Entry+Point/Business +Topics/Market+research+statistics/How+do+I+write+a+marketing+plan.htm [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketing_plan [2] http://www.businessplans.org/Market.html This goes a bit to far but you get an idea. Very far reaching, if done effectively it can galvanize a firm into action and direction. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: ambassadors, marketing, etc
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 22:14 -0800, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 20:21 -0500, John Poelstra wrote: > > > I think this list should be more about marketing activities and less > > about news stories about Fedora. If we want a place to collect news > > stories about Fedora I think those should go to a separate list... > > something like fedora-news-monitor. > > +1 > > We have something similar at Red Hat, which gets a fair amount of press, > and I'm always glad that I can go to that list to read about it without > having to fill a more general discussion list with news items. > > Oddly, here are the solutions in the air: > > A. Merge f-m-l and f-a-l > B. Leave f-m-l and f-a-l as they are with topic enforcement > C. Leave f-m-l and f-a-l as they are with topic enforcement, and peel > news items and discussion of same off to a new list > > So, either one, two, or three lists. :) > > - Karsten I pick C :) -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: comparison of ambassadors list and marketing list
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 22:49 +0100, Gerold Kassube wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 15.01.2008, 16:38 -0500 schrieb Max Spevack: > > For what it's worth: > > > > ambassadors-list == 272 members > > marketing-list == 393 members > > > > 202 people are on both lists. > > > > I do not attempt to draw any conclusions from this data. I will leave > > that to others. > ^^ > maybe "every Ambassador does marketing but not every marketing is an > Ambassador"? > > Just an idea :-) > > Gerold > Thats a fair assumption. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: revitalize, FUDCon results, and an RFC
> We had a great marketing session[0] with Leigh Day at FUDCon, and one of > the results is a plan to create a sustainable Fedora marketing plan by > March. This gets us ready for Fedora 9. > > Work can commence here: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/MarketingMessagingGuide > > To get things started I'm taking on a lead wrangler role for that guide. > > We also agreed in that meeting that we're going to more carefully > enforce on-topic and off-topic for this mailing list. This means some > discussions are requested to go to other lists. This will help our > collaboration with some of the marketing professionals we've invited to > work on Fedora marketing. > > Finally, I'm proposing that we form a Marketing SIG and have regular IRC > meetings to help our collaboration move rapidly. > +1 > Once we've completed our marketing plan, it should be relatively stable > for some time. We can then evaluate maintaining or disbanding the SIG. > +1 definitely I was going to put a proposal specifically for this but no need now. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 9
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 10:56 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 19:46 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > I know there was discussions about what was going to occur by Fedora 9. > > Sorry Marc, could you be more specific about which discussions you were > referring to? My memory is stretched at the minute with revision :( > > Best wishes, > > Jon Well we know you are doing interviews on areas in Fedora :) Maybe add that to the page. There was discussions I just can't remember the specifics sadly :( I'll search through the list and post back if I find it. Can we also have ideas as to what to do for release? Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora 9
I know there was discussions about what was going to occur by Fedora 9. Can we add some content to here. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Schedule Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: ambassadors, marketing, etc
> (3) For the marketing guys, the same general theme that is expressed > above is true for the non-Ambassador marketing parts of Fedora. We want > Jack to be a facilitator, a liason between the community and Red Hat, > and to work alongside the community leaders to make Fedora marketing > more efficient, more on-message, etc. > > I expect Jack to attend Marketing and Ambassadors meetings, and the > Fedora Board should ask Jack for frequent updates on these two critical > parts of the Fedora Project. > > Any questions -- feel free to email. Let's try to have the discussion > on-list. > > Regards, > Max I think the marketing list needs to figure out what it is going to do as in direction wise. I'm not to sure that it is an effectively used medium and or used effectively. Thats not to say it should be shut down rather maybe there should be a discussion on how to improve it. I would love input from Red Hat to see where we can improve I believe there is someone on list. I personally welcome someone from Red Hat being the go-to person since at least there is a presence and discussions can improve the cooperation between Fedora and Red Hat. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: StoreSIG: Moving Forward
On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 16:05 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 16:37 -0500, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > > And this brings us to where we left off before the holidays. From > > where I type I see the following as the things we need to work on in > > order to continue forward. > > > > - We need a mockup of the portal page. Some basic requirements of the > > page are listed in this email. We have two names associated with the > > task now, one of which is Max who I am sure is swamped. My mockup > > skills are near non-existent, but I can work on getting the general > > requirements up on the Wiki for reference. If anyone wants to jump in > > and help with a basic mockup, that would be much appreciated. > > You could try contacting the Artwork team, which has a design service > for just this need: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService > > I'm cc'ing their list with followups here to f-marketing-l. > I thought Mizmo was a part of this SIG anyways? Cheers, Marc P.S. Sorry Mairin but I don't know how to set the accent -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: "For 2008 media will create Red Hat-Ubuntu war"
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 14:13 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Thanks Rahul, it all looks like it's interesting and should be useful at > some point in the future :) Anybody got any ideas on how we can make use > of this info? Maybe in the proposed Press Kit and the history section > even?! > > Best wishes, > > Jon The overview page is quite good as well. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora Core (doing time)
Quite a funny read. http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Fedora_Core If you have time and have a sense of humor read the bits about other distro's as well. Especially Debian's one. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: dormant bugs and our perception
On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 19:41 -0500, William Cattey wrote: > I too have been disheartened to hear nothing for months and often > more than a year for problems I have reported. > > It is impossible to give every submitted a bug detailed and rigorous > attention. There are just too many bugs and not enough people. > > It seems to me, however, that if those in the know could manage to > triage each incoming bug within a few days, and answer the submitter > doing four simple things, the people submitting the bugs would feel > more strongly motivated to stay involved and to grow into people who > could help out in future. What four things: > > 1. Acknowledge the submission. > 2. Identify if it is an already known bug, and if so, connect the > new bug to the known bug. > 3. If it can be done with a few minutes work, provide the submitter > with something to do to get them moving forward on isolating and > fixing the bug. > 4. If possible, give a sense of when to expect further help: If the > bug is difficult to deal with, and in a low importance subsystem, say > so. If it is easy to fix, give the submitter help in trying to > submit a fix. > > Leaving people hanging for months and years has consequences. For > example: I got bit in August by Red Hat bugzilla bug 240326. In > DECEMBER that bug was flagged as a duplicate of Red Hat bug 222327 > detected by Red Hat internally and opened in January. The lack of > timely triage meant that nobody realized this EASY bug to fix was > actually affecting real customers. Although this bug is Red Hat, not > Fedora, the principle is the same. > > If you at least respond, and respond quickly, you motivate people to > do more work and join the ranks of those helping out. If you allow a > one-year backlog to come into existence, you look bad, you de- > motivate potential good new people, and you cheat yourself out of > useful information and forward progress on the code base. > > Bottom line: Every bug deserves 15 minutes of triage. The value > produced is measurable and significant. > > -Bill > > > > William Cattey > Linux Platform Coordinator > MIT Information Services & Technology > > N42-040M, 617-253-0140, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://web.mit.edu/wdc/www/ > > > On Dec 31, 2007, at 7:22 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: > > > I was triaging old bugs in the FC6 kernel, and got this back form a > > reporter.While I agree that a lack of response can be frustrating > > to a reporter, I'm not entirely sure what (if anything) we can do > > about it.- I'm sending this to marketing-list since it seems to be a > > problem for us rather than QA - though probably both, and I'm sure > > alot of us are on both. > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Dec 31, 2007 5:48 PM > > Subject: [Bug 204883] Boot fails in insmod after upgrade from fc5 > > (x86) to fc6t2 (x86_64) > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional > > comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. > > > > Summary: Boot fails in insmod after upgrade from fc5 (x86) to fc6t2 > > (x86_64) > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204883 > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: > > > >What|Removed |Added > > -- > > -- > > Status|NEEDINFO|NEW > >Flag|needinfo?([EMAIL PROTECTED])| > > > > > > > > > > --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-12-31 > > 18:48 EST --- > > Jon, > > > > Thanks for your input. > > > > I've pretty much given up with my efforts to further the Fedora > > cause. Here are > > my reasons: > > > > 1) I opened this case OVER a year ago. NO responses til now. Not > > exactly what I > > would call a timely response I'm sure you'll agree. > > > > 2) I have joined several of the fedora lists (fedora-dev comes to > > mind off the > > top of my head. I have posted to the list several times but have > > NOT received > > any responses except from Rahul. > > > > I'm NOT a developer but I HAVE a lot of experience working with > > systems (> 40 > > years) of all kinds. I will NEVER tell anyone that I know it all > > because I just > > don't. I do expect to be listened to when I request info or make a > > suggestion. > > EVEN if it's just to tell me to go to hell. This is not > > unreasonable, I do > > listen AND reply to other people when they address me. I just > > expect the same > > treatment. > > > > Regards, > > > > George... > > > > > > > > - Yep I've seen that a lot. Dev's are busy and generally can't respond I'm not to sure if this does not occur in other projects but I know when I post a bug to wine I get a response in close to 24-48 hours even if it is just an acknowledgment of the bug. Me personall
Re: Fedora News site: Help Needed
> Thomas Chung used to setup and administrate drupal in fedoranews.org > before it was disbanded by him and he has now volunteered with the > infrastructure team to lead the effort which is probably the ideal thing > to have happened and you can work with him and help out on whatever > activities that are happening in there. > > Rahul > Thanks Rahul Do I just get in contact with Thomas then? Is he on holidays since FWN is taking a break? Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora News site: Help Needed
On Sat, 2007-12-22 at 05:11 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Fedora infrastructure is looking for a person to manage a new news site > for Fedora which is currently planned to be a drupal instance. If anyone > wants to volunteer to lead that effort or help coordinate with others, > please contact the infrastructure team. > > Rahul > I'm interested since however I would need guidance on it. I can do a local install but if someone can mentor me with problems that would be great. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: First public speech as a Fedora ambassador
On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 13:27 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 18:54 +0530, Satyajit Ranjeev wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am currently a Linux Trainer in a reputed organization in Chennai, > > India and recently had the opportunity to address 30 students on Fedora > > who had actually come in for a lecture on Oracle. > > > > The remarkable thing was that instantaneously 8 of them requested for > > cds and dvds and had a wide range of queries regarding Fedora. This > > definitely shows that fedora is in a high level of acceptance over here > > too. > > > > All of them enjoy working on it with the compiz window manger and all > > the extra graphical features added in this release. The virtualization > > with qemu was another component which stole the show. > > > > I was very pleased with myself about the outcome of the small talk > > which showed a lot of positive acceptance. I'm sure that I will be able > > to spread the Fedora philosophy in a wide way. > > Congratulations :) Sounds like you did a great job!! > > Best wishes, > > Jon > > +1 Did you make slides up? If you did do you mind uploading them somewhere fp.o maybe so other people can see what you talked about? Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 9 Interview series
On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 09:14 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Jonathan Roberts wrote: > > I was thinking about starting to get organised for the Fedora 9 > series > > of interviews soon. I probably won't start drawing up questions for > > these until the new year as I'm not going to have much net access > for > > the next few weeks, but I figure I'd draw up a hit list of > interviews > > that would be cool to do. If anyone wants to pick any of them up > that > > would be awesome - and if anybody is interested but would like some > > advice, I can probably help out here too (there's probably people on > the > > list who can do a better job at this than me!!)... > > How about an interview about games and the games spin? F8's Games Spin > totally kick ass and F9 should kick even more. On top of that, games is > a topic with huge potential to score big time to readers on places like > digg. +1 Regards, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora more successful, developer-wise, than Ubuntu
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 16:06 +0300, Zhukov Pavel wrote: > On Dec 20, 2007 3:20 PM, Marc Wiriadisastra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting post about whether Fedora is more popular for dev's than > > Ubuntu. > > > > http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2007/12/18/fedora-more-successful-developer-wise-than-ubuntu > > > > I personally don't think it's a fair comparison because Ubuntu is > > derived from Debian and there is cross over. What I would like to see > > is a comparison with Debian and Fedora to see what the actual numbers > > are. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Marc > > > > -- > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > Fedora project managed by RH. It means strict roadmap, defined > chekpoints, clear release cycle. > Debian on the other hand, fully community driven. no checkpoints, no > erelease cycle, no "head": Debian Project Leader have very limited > premissions. > I disagree while Fedora project is sponsored by RH the majority of the contributors are from the community. Max blogged about this the other day if I remember correctly. I'm not to sure what the definition of a community project is but I would have thought more than 50% constitutes a community project? My point related mainly to developer-wise which translates to packagers and docs I think. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora more successful, developer-wise, than Ubuntu
Interesting post about whether Fedora is more popular for dev's than Ubuntu. http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2007/12/18/fedora-more-successful-developer-wise-than-ubuntu I personally don't think it's a fair comparison because Ubuntu is derived from Debian and there is cross over. What I would like to see is a comparison with Debian and Fedora to see what the actual numbers are. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: What would a Fedora Store sell?
Computer hardware that supports Fedora. I say in the sense that maybe laptops/video cards sata that is known to not have issues. (No need to keep stock just resell from other people) Linux games since there is a burgeoning linux gaming industry and it's starting to improve. The problem with those two ideas is a risk of performing because of propietary actions. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 8 Review
On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 09:37 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > "Red Hat ruled the Linux distribution world, before Ubuntu came and took > over. With the current release for Fedora, it seems that Red Hat is > fighting really hard to control the lost ground. The intense effort is > clear from the current release. If we ignore minor hick-ups, werewolf is > one of the best releases from Fedora. With this release Fedora is > returning to my workstation as distribution of choice, after a long > time." > > http://simplyjat.blogspot.com/2007/11/fedora-8-review.html > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Review > > > Cheers, > > > Marc > Looks like my emails finally got through. Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora 8 Review
"Red Hat ruled the Linux distribution world, before Ubuntu came and took over. With the current release for Fedora, it seems that Red Hat is fighting really hard to control the lost ground. The intense effort is clear from the current release. If we ignore minor hick-ups, werewolf is one of the best releases from Fedora. With this release Fedora is returning to my workstation as distribution of choice, after a long time." http://simplyjat.blogspot.com/2007/11/fedora-8-review.html http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Review Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
DVD-Guides.com - Fedora Review
"Usage First impression / Looks The first think I noticed after booting Fedora for the first time is the amazing new look. Fedora is one of the distros that didn't care about looks originally but with the two last releases they have done a great job." http://www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/224/104/ Quite a nice review. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora 8 Review on Dell D620
"I have 2 Pentium D PC's running FC7 and DELL D620 Laptop running Ubuntu in dual boot. I'm so satisfied with the configuration and performance of FC7 that as soon as I heard FC8 was available I went ahead and tried to blast away Ubuntu from my laptop and replace it with FC8." http://cabazorronews.blogspot.com/2007/11/fedora-core-8-review-on-dell-d620.html http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_Core_8_Laptop_Installation_Review Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Does Fedora 8 deserve intellectual welfare
"Fedora 8 came out today and quite frankly, it sucks. I’m a Fedora user and I run Fedora on about 10 servers right now, including this one that hosts Dvorak Uncensored. But even though I’m a fan I think that it’s time to end the intellectual welfare that all the Linux reviewers give it and raise the bar to the same standards that commercial software is judged by. What is that standard you ask? It’s the standard of “does it work”. My conclusion - no - it doesn’t. Fedora 8 is broken." It seems like a rant more than anything from my point of view. Some valid points but overall a rant. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=14453 http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Dvorak_Uncensored_Fedora_8_Sucks Cheers Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: 3 new introductions
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 22:15 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Welcome to you all :D > > Best wishes, > > Jon I agree with Jon :) Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Easily Contribute to Fedora and Open Source
"I was looking over the Fedora website today as I was downloading the just released Fedora 8 Werewolf, and noticed that they have a free media program. This is intended for people who don't have the bandwidth to download Fedora, or those who can't afford it. It can be found here." http://happylinuxthoughts.blogspot.com/2007/11/easily-contribute-to-fedora-and-open.html Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Easily_Contribute_to_Fedora_and_Open_Source Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora 8 Preview: Werewolf Unleashed
"So its here .. The Werewolf unleashed and the oldest company in Linux world Red Hat has launched a new version of Fedora ..So lets take a quick view of it …" http://tuxenclave.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/fedora-8-preview-werewolf-unleased/ Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Preview_Werewolf_Unleased Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
fedora-8-review: Lunapark 6
"The most disappointing aspect about the release would be its finicky installer. Sure if you have certain hardware, you may never go through the troubles I encountered, but my setup is hardly what you would call esoteric. Yet, I did have to jump through hurdles just to get the system up and running. Both of my test computers, Big Bertha (AMD 64 +3000, Nvidia 6600, 2 GB RAM, 19” Samsung 192n monitor and Soundblaster Audigy) and Mount Doona (AMD X2 +4400, 2 GB RAM, 24” Samsung 244T), were unable to install via the normal installation mode and had to use the text installation mode. Furthermore, once the main text installation was completed, the final stage (where normal users are added) were not available for me." http://lunapark6.com/fedora-8-review.html Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Review_of_Fedora_8_with_install_notes_for_Compiz_Fusion Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 8 (Werewolf) Shows it's Fangs
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 13:26 +, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Do we have a page on the wiki for collating press reports like this? > We used to? Rahul? > Jon > On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 22:16 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > "Red Hat's Fedora today debuted a major new release that in many ways > > offers more than any previous version of the community Linux effort. > > > > That's because Fedora 8, codenamed "Werewolf," is actually more than > > just a single release of a single distribution. In addition to a myriad > > of new features, the release offers at least four different custom > > versions, or "spins" as Fedora calls them. The spins included in the > > Fedora 8 release offer packages targeted to specific users like > > developers and even game players." > > > > http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3709946 > > > > Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Werewolf_Shows_Its_Fangs > > > > Cheers, > > > > Marc > > > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Werewolf: Fedora's Redeemer?
"To those who doesn’t know, Fedora was once considered the most important and popular Linux distribution before PCLOS and Ubuntu. However, a series of unpopular releases evidently affected its excellent reputation. Even Eric S. Raymond, one of the most famous hacker and author publicly expressed his disgust with Fedora by sending the infamous “you blew it” letter to a number of Linux-related publications and mailing lists. It certainly added insult to injury." http://junauza.blogspot.com/2007/11/werewolf-fedoras-redeemer.html Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Werewolf_Fedora_s_Redeemer Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) Shows it's Fangs
"Red Hat's Fedora today debuted a major new release that in many ways offers more than any previous version of the community Linux effort. That's because Fedora 8, codenamed "Werewolf," is actually more than just a single release of a single distribution. In addition to a myriad of new features, the release offers at least four different custom versions, or "spins" as Fedora calls them. The spins included in the Fedora 8 release offer packages targeted to specific users like developers and even game players." http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3709946 Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Werewolf_Shows_Its_Fangs Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora 8 is out - Inquirer
"RED HAT'S community-driven Linux distribution Fedora 8 has been released today and comes with a bit more eye-candy and sound gear to tart itself up. Codenamed Werewolf, Fedora Core 8 comes with the PulseAudio sound daemon, which will allow users to set the volume for each application. It can move streams between devices, redirect audio streams to other computers on the local network." http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/09/fedora Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_is_out Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 8 CD Sets Released
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 23:26 +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Fedora Unity has released Fedora 8 CD Sets. > > http://fedoraunity.org/news-archives/fedora-8-cd-sets-released > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_CD_Sets_Released > > To download, launch your favorite Jigdo client against: > > http://jigdo.fedoraunity.org/templates/Fedora-8-CD/Fedora-8-CD.jigdo > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > Nice work :) Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 8 PDF.
On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 18:21 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: > This is a mass preliminary e-mail to three mailing lists. > > What I have done so far with the marketing PDF is get the content and > images laid out and desiring feedback for it at this stage. After I get > some technical critique and suggestions, I'll go ahead and work on > visual presentation. > > Some notes that I have that I have seen is: > > -a need to seperate some of the feature paragraphs with a line or some > sort of visual blockage so people know where to stop. > -locate where "word divisions" is so that the justification of the text > doesn't string out so much of the words in some areas. > -decorate and also fill the 9th page with technical information. > -find some image to use on the 1st page at the top. A header is needed. > > latest PDF: http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/11-7.pdf > tarball with all files: > http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overview/F8-Press-Release.tar.gz > I agree with your points above but I would add a picture of a few more bits. Like eclipse. Maybe around the pictures but extra spaces and put a subtitle under each one. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Max Spevack speaks about the release
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2007-November/msg3.html "On Thursday November 8th (about 3:00 PM GMT), Fedora 8 will go live to the world, and you will be able to download it at http://fedoraproject.org. The bits are all finalized, the mirrors are synced, and the torrents are primed. But until we flip the switch, you will have to tide yourself over with this -- my personal Fedora 8 release announcement. Fortunately, it's pretty long, so if you read it all, Fedora 8 might be released by the time you have finished!" Already up on Digg http://digg.com/linux_unix/Max_Spevack_s_Fedora_8_pre_release_announcement Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Can Red Hat ever make open source advocates happy?
http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=1648 "Red Hat has joined Sun’s OpenJDK project, aligning its IcedTea project with it. (Should that now be IcedCoffee?) The reaction of open source bloggers to this news? Finally, wrote our own Stephen Shankland. What was the hold-up, asked EnterpriseLinux. What took you, asked Business Review Online." Interesting article. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Red Hat legal speaks
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 03:36 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > The question on DMCA and iPod's and linking to third party repositories > has been answered and we indeed can now do that if we wanted to, with > some caveats. Can't use this as a alternative source for codecs in codec > buddy in a direct way but getting this clarification does help. Thanks > to Spot for running my questions through Red Hat Legal. > > http://lwn.net/Articles/257559/rss > > "The Fedora advisory board has just been updated on a couple of > conclusions reached by the Red Hat legal department. It has been > determined that support for current iPod devices can be provided by > Fedora - getting around Apple's obfuscation is not seen as a DMCA > violation. The rules on linking to encumbered software have also been > loosened" > > Rahul > Dig http://digg.com/linux_unix/Red_Hat_Legal_Speaks_about_MP3_s Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora 9 Features List Unveiled
http://paulsdigitalworld.wordpress.com/2007/11/06/fedora-9-features-list-unveiled/ "I’m not kidding. Yeah, fedora 8 dawning upon us but fedora 9 is being conceived. Let’s make some comments and help. This is my first class at the features list, I’ll probably go deeper into it. New GNOME Display Manager Much enhanced rewrite of GNOME Display Manager This is kind of nice. In each new release, fedora updates the GNOME desktop and makes it better. But what’s going to happen with KDE? Fedora seems to have a intimate relation with GNOME. But I hope the fedora team keeps themselvs away from the fire that one OS has one desktop and that’s it. Fedora should always offer the best variety." http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/fedora_9_feature_list_3 Enjoy Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Red Hat signs on to Sun's open-source Java project
On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 08:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/11/05/red-hat-helps-advance-open-source-java/ > > http://www.linuxworld.com.au/pp.php?id=1682397900&fp=2;fpid=1 > > "Red Hat has signed Sun's OpenJDK contributor agreement and will now > align the work its done on its IcedTea project, which was its own > implementation of some parts of the Java SE JDK, with OpenSDK, said > Shaun Connolly, vice president of product management for JBoss. > > IcedTea brought together the Fedora project with key Java technologies > in a Linux environment, and currently provides open-source alternatives > for the few remaining proprietary sections in the OpenJDK project, he > said. Fedora is a Red-Hat sponsored Linux project." > > Rahul > Some more here and it's on digg as well. http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15220/ http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Red_Hat_signs_on_for_open_source_Java_development Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: [Fwd: Questions of www.silicon.de]
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 23:31 +0100, Fabian Affolter wrote: > Hi all, > > Are we interested in such a publicity thing? Is anybody willing to do > something? > > Regards, > > Fabian > I would think this is a great idea. The more people hear about Fedora the better. I'm not to sure of the process that they require but definitely. Cheers, Marc > Original Message > Subject: Questions of www.silicon.de > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:13:11 +0100 > From: Lutz Poessneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Dear Fabian, > > I'm an editor with www.silicon.de, a leading German news service for > IT-professionals, part of CNET Networks (www.cnet.com). > > We are planning to publish a photo gallery to deal with the topic 'What > for and why I'm using Fedora'. > > The aim of the photo gallery is to inform our readers about Fedora and > to give examples how to use it. > > Ideally the gallery may have such a structure: a photo of a certain > Fedora-user with some information about himself (for instance: > profession, employer), then some photos, indicating what for and why he > uses Fedora (for instance: screenshots of his favourite > Fedora-applications, screenshots of applications, which he dislikes at > Windows or another creative image-idea), then the photo of the next > Fedora-user, then photos of his favourite Fedora-applications ... and so > on. > > To give you an example, a photo gallery on www.silicon.de looks like > this: > > 160 years of Siemens > http://www.silicon.de/enid/client_server_host/30233 > > Can you help me to get in contact with Fedora-users, who are willing to > show their passion in a photo gallery? > > I'm interested in any information. If we can find many interested users, > we may also publish a serial. > > Also: Another topic for a photo gallery would be 'The history of Fedora > ' - do you know, where to get corresponding photos? > > Possible also: 'Fedora in use' (for instance in a project) - these > photos should be up to date. > > > If you come up with an idea for a photo gallery - you are welcome. > > I'm looking forward to hearing from you. > > With kind regards > > Lutz Poessneck > > > Editor > CNET Networks Germany > Silicon.de > Willy-Brandt-Allee 2 > 81829 Munich, Germany > Phone: 0049-89-25 555 632 > Fax: 0049-89-25 555 750 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.silicon.de > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: The unabated development of Fedora Linux
On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 02:11 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > A older look at Fedora which has now been updated to cover recent > > releases including Fedora 8 after a little prodding from me. There is > > another separate review planned too. > > > > http://linux-noob.com/review/fedora/development/ > > Digg it up: > > http://digg.com/software/The_unabated_development_of_Fedora_Linux > > Rahul > Why would it be put under Software why not under linux/unix? Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: give fedorapeople.org and other parts of fedora some press
+1 Cheers, Marc On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 22:57 -0800, John Poelstra wrote: > The ReleaseSummary page is great! The screenshots really add a lot and > make the page interesting. > > How about bragging about the new fedorapoeple infrastructure and how > this distinguishes Fedora from other projects at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/ReleaseSummary ? Also talk > about other improvements to our processes and infrastructure project wide? > > What about expanding the Release Summary to talk about changes across > the Fedora project... not just what is new with the bits? There are a > lot other things project wide we could trumpet as well--the art process, > docs improvements, infrastructure, release engineering, etc. It could > even be a short summary from each group of what they accomplished during > the F8 cycle. > > If we are going to get press attention on release day on this page... > why give the press more things to write about and more insight into all > the great things Fedora is doing in one central page? > > And... I realize some in particular are likely to suggest that I do it > all myself because "that is how all this works, etc., etc., etc." :) I > am not able to do it at this time. So if what I am suggesting is is not > possible I understand. > > If we planned some of this in advance we could create a serious drum > beat with the press and news outlets for F9--Red Hat Communication said > they would help, but need lead time. This makes me think it would be a > good thing to put on a schedule to remind ourselves to do in advance ;-) > I am able to help with that. > > John > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora Linux Rave
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:24 +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > "Except for a very minor issue with my Network Card (NIC), it just plain > > installed and worked!" > > > > Let me guess, he had a broadcom? ;-) > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > Sadly he didn't put his hardware up there. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora Linux Rave
"Today just for grins, I loaded a computer with Fedora Linux 7 and was very pleasantly surprised. Except for a very minor issue with my Network Card (NIC), it just plain installed and worked!" http://www.americandaily.com/article/20822 http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_Linux_Rave Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora 8 RC3
http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/11/03/fedora-8-rc-3/ "Fedora 8 RC 3 was released three days ago. This RC shows what users can expect from the upcoming Fedora 8. It comes along with a huge list of new features and bug features. Among them are a KDE 3.5.8, a new NetworkManager core, PolicyKit, PulseAudio and RandR 1.2 support for the open ATI drivers." Cheers, Marc It's also on digg. http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_RC_3_Really_Good_Preview -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: graphics
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 05:00 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > > Only thing though is that I love how the desktop background changes > > colours in F8 so I'm not to sure if we would lose that if we switched > > backgrounds. > > You will unless you create a animated version of it. Details of that > were posted to fedora-art list earlier by Mo. > > Rahul > A crazy thought to differentiate Fedora more from the others could be (sorry art-list) a release of new backgrounds to represent different times of the year with an opt out clause. What I mean is the following. Halloween Graphics Christmas graphics Ramadan(sp?) graphics The Jewish one (sorry I don't know what it is called) They get installed by default at different times of the year so you have evolving desktops overtime. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
graphics
I was just browsing mugshot as I do. I know Nicu has some dvd/cd covers and other graphics on his site which are brilliant. I just wanted to say I found these today as well and I have to say all this art is brilliant. http://www.molaora.com/index.php/blog/show/CD-cover.html There are other bits and pieces on the site so have a look around. Maybe we need to create a fedora art pack of sorts? Cause I'm really liking all the graphics being released from Nicu and others. Only thing though is that I love how the desktop background changes colours in F8 so I'm not to sure if we would lose that if we switched backgrounds. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Second- life in the Fedora repo's?
"My ultimate goal is to make the Second Life client available in the official Fedora repository. This is made difficult by the client's dependence on some closed-source libraries," Lerwick says. http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/103107-second-life.html?page=1 Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: OLPC makes it to India
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 21:25 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > Hey All, > > Just thought I would post this reference for Fedora being the base for > OLPC. > > http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/11/olpc-makes-its-entry-into-india-finally.html > > When the OLPC first made news, a prominent official in the HRD ministry > of the Indian government had gone on record snubbing the OLPC project > ($100 laptop), even making a preposterous claim that work was under way > to create India's own $10 laptop. But as things have worked out, OLPC > has already made an entry into India in the form of a pilot project in a > rural primary school in a village in the state of Maharasthra. > > Cheers, > > Marc > A bit more info. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Khairat_Chronicle While I had nothing to do with OLPC I think this is a great news story for how Fedora has helped bring Linux to more users. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
OLPC makes it to India
Hey All, Just thought I would post this reference for Fedora being the base for OLPC. http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/11/olpc-makes-its-entry-into-india-finally.html When the OLPC first made news, a prominent official in the HRD ministry of the Indian government had gone on record snubbing the OLPC project ($100 laptop), even making a preposterous claim that work was under way to create India's own $10 laptop. But as things have worked out, OLPC has already made an entry into India in the form of a pilot project in a rural primary school in a village in the state of Maharasthra. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Website selling linux computers
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 05:16 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 04:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > >>> We had a list a long time ago on companies that sell linux > >>> computers/laptops on the wiki. I have just found this website and it > >>> looks quite cheap compared to where I live. > >>> > >>> http://www.fc64.org/ > >>> > >>> Can we update the list on the wiki? > >> Someone needs to confirm how authentic they are first I think. > >> > >> Rahul > >> > > How would we go about doing that? > > Contact them for more details. Enquire if anyone has successfully done > business with them. See if we can improve the OEM relationship. > > Rahul > I have done that and I'll wait for their response. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Website selling linux computers
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 04:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > We had a list a long time ago on companies that sell linux > > computers/laptops on the wiki. I have just found this website and it > > looks quite cheap compared to where I live. > > > > http://www.fc64.org/ > > > > Can we update the list on the wiki? > > Someone needs to confirm how authentic they are first I think. > > Rahul > How would we go about doing that? Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Website selling linux computers
We had a list a long time ago on companies that sell linux computers/laptops on the wiki. I have just found this website and it looks quite cheap compared to where I live. http://www.fc64.org/ Can we update the list on the wiki? Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 8 Werewolf Screenshots
Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/21448 The release of Fedora 8 (codenamed Werewolf) is due out for release in less than two weeks and comes with a host of new features. Fedora 8 will offer a Codec Buddy for installing audio/video codecs, an open-source Java stack now based upon IcedTea, improved laptop support, the Pulse Audio sound server, remove virtualization support, and much more. One more thing. I have just created a digg. http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_8_Werewolf_Screenshots_2 Linking to the Phoronix article directly since clicking on multiple links is not my idea of fun. Let's digg it!!! Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 8 Werewolf Screenshots
Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/21448 The release of Fedora 8 (codenamed Werewolf) is due out for release in less than two weeks and comes with a host of new features. Fedora 8 will offer a Codec Buddy for installing audio/video codecs, an open-source Java stack now based upon IcedTea, improved laptop support, the Pulse Audio sound server, remove virtualization support, and much more. I should have clicked on the link it links directly to this article. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=895&num=1 which I think has been sent before. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora 8 Werewolf Screenshots
http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/21448 The release of Fedora 8 (codenamed Werewolf) is due out for release in less than two weeks and comes with a host of new features. Fedora 8 will offer a Codec Buddy for installing audio/video codecs, an open-source Java stack now based upon IcedTea, improved laptop support, the Pulse Audio sound server, remove virtualization support, and much more. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: [Fwd: Re: Get Fedora]
> Both > > Mike McGrath wrote: >> Please vote on this: >> >> options are: >> >> Both >> >> Just gnome >> >> You've got till wed. :) >> >>-Mike > > Both Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Fedora Weekly News 106
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue106 http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_Weekly_News_Issue_106 A bit of news about what is coming up. Most people would have read it but in the lead up to F8 we should be starting to push the benefits of what is there in F8. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Feature previews
On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 18:06 +0630, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Jonathan Roberts wrote: > > Hey again, > > > > Needed a new subject :p > > > > Anybody got any suggestions about the best way to get previews of > > codec buddy and iced tea put together? I think these two are really > > cool features and definitely need to be made more public, but I'm not > > sure who the developers are/where to contact them etc... > > For Codec Buddy, it is Bastien Nocera, bnocera AT redhat.com who did the > packaging and integration. Gstream developer and Fluendo guy, Thomas > Vander Stichele, thomas AT fluendo.com who developed the wrapper. > > The questions surrounding this are: > > How did the work start? > > Is Fluendo contributing back anything back to Fedora or gstreamer? > > Pointing to other sources besides Fluendo including a third party > repository for those in regions that don't enforce software patents? > > Why just totem? What about other gstreamer applications? > > Packaged application instead of a tarball > > What are the future plans? > > > Perhaps it might be an idea to just put together a screencast of eac, > > in use; codec buddy this is simple to imagine, but iced tea? Maybe a > > demo of a java web application being used or something? > > For Iced Tea, I believe the lead Red Hat developer who did the original > work was Thomas Fitzsimmons fitzsim AT redhat.com. Just a good > explanation of the feature along with a screecast/ some screenshots > should work well. > > Questions surrounding this are: > > How much work was involved? > > Integration between GCJ applet and Iced tea in Fedora 8 > > Porting Iced Tea to other architectures > > Collaboration with Sun? > > What is the future of a liberated Java? > > What other Java related work is going in Fedora? > > Rahul > yum-utils with the additional packages. Yum addon's namely yum-cron and yum-presto Changing desktop (can't remember what it is called) New 2.6.23 kernel what changes improvements. Thats just off the top of my head there are a few more things I have thought wow these are great. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: metrics and transparency
On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 22:21 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote: > On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 02:19 +0630, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Hi > > > > Metrics can be fuzzy ... > > Right, and let's keep things in perspective: > > http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2Cfedora%2Csex To true. It seems that ubuntu and fedora are losing to sex who would have thought. Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora Marketing Meeting Tomorrow
On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 19:20 +0630, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Hi > > > > > > In #fedora-mktg Freenode IRC channel. Be there at 11 AM UTC. > > > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=20&year=2007&hour=11&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 > > > > I ran into other issues and couldn't make it to the meeting. Sorry. Did > anyone go ahead? > > Rahul Nope. No discussion in the fedora-mktg channel. Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora Marketing Meeting Tomorrow
> Hi > > > In #fedora-mktg Freenode IRC channel. Be there at 11 AM UTC. > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=20&year=2007&hour=11&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > I'm there. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Linux vs. Windows Power Usage
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=880&num=1 "While idling, Ubuntu 7.10 was consuming the most power with 41 Watts while Fedora 8 Test 3 had consumed the least amount of power at 38 Watts. Both Windows XP and Vista were consuming 39 Watts while idling. As this system was using SiS Real 256 graphics, Compiz Fusion was not enabled by default for Ubuntu 7.10, yet it had consumed the most power." -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.
On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 22:25 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 10/15/07, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > The fact that Ubuntu has bigger numbers is due in part to the fact that > > it is easier to install than Fedora although that is changing. > > Haha this is funny. I know many ubuntu/kubuntu users with more than 5 > unofficial repositories. Is this simple ??? > > Please define a time when it was "simple". > Before FC1 ? > > Chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > It is simple Chitlesh in the sense that you can install ubuntu from windows. Someone puts in the CD and it sets up the installation of linux. The non-free stuff is out of the box. Generally makes life easier. The 5 unofficial repositories I've only heard of 1 thats not to say that there aren't more but those users are a rarity I think. I can setup 4 extra repositories in Fedora as well but I would be a rarity. Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.
M Daniel R Magarzo wrote: El dom, 14-10-2007 a las 17:44 -0400, jkeating escribió: If this were really true, they wouldn't use Fedora at all, they would use something else that has this software already in it or easier to obtain. Why not? It's easier to put a vendaje over your eyes than digest the reality fro some people.. The last is harder indeed. Daniel Do you seriously think that the only reason people install Fedora is because of Livna. That thought is ludicrous Livna is an addon repository that supports non-free software. While not degrading what they do since some contribute to Fedora as a whole. They do not create the distribution at all. The majority of the distribution is created by people who work for RedHat (I think) a lot also from the community. The fact that Ubuntu has bigger numbers is due in part to the fact that it is easier to install than Fedora although that is changing. They also offer non-free software as default. I'm not to sure about PCLinuxOS but they are making a charge. One thing that Fedora does which is similar in nature to Debian is that 'we' are the base for other distro's. Ubuntu get there software from Debian. We are the equivalent to Debian. The big difference is that we are totally non-free in the sense that no repositories that are under the control of Fedora have non-free software. That is a bold statement and one that deserves credit. Fedora takes opensource software and improves it and takes it to another level. Make no mistake if Fedora didn't exist the world would be worse off. While Fedora can go down the path of offering non-free software I think I would be disheartened by this action and to me Fedora would lose what it stands for. Fedora is making significant contributions to the opensource community in ways that should be advertised a lot more. I for one have a lot of respect for the devs that contribute and while there are problems the dev's work hard and with little respect or thanks from the community. The other fact is people say that well most of the devs are employed. I didn't know Rahul or Jesse's job entailed working 7 days a week late at night all the time. These guy's go above and beyond what the average person does such is their love for the distribution. I was talking about it the other day I would hate having a job in the opensource industry because I would probably lose my family because I would work on it at work and then head home and work on it again. My family would hate me. (I suck at time management) Above all your criticism is welcome but your opinions should be tempered with respect for the people that give you a product that is FREE and they (the devs) strive hard to improve it. While it may not be perfect they are doing the best that they can and helping them improve it is more helpful than saying what you product sucks I'm going to Livna. Every new kernel I test out the wireless iwl3945 driver to see if its improved on my laptop. It hasn't got the range as what the ipw3945 driver does however I'm hopeful that it's fixed in F8. The reason I test it is so I can offer feedback to the devs who strive hard to fix the issues. Spend a bit of time on the fedora-devel list to see how active they all are and you might understand why I support this distro so much. I have tested a heap of different versions of linux but overall I have stuck with Fedora since Fedora Core 1 because it was noticeable that overall the people cared about what they did. It was like a badge of honour that they put out a quality product. Thanks Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora Marketing Meeting Sat Oct 13 UTC 11 AM
On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 13:35 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > Scheduled meeting time. Hopefully that's more acceptable to most people. > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2007&month=10&day=13&hour=11&min=0&sec=0&p1=1038&p2=43&p3=152&p4=136 > > Rahul I'll be there as well :) Sorry for the double post relating to time. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Interested in a Fedora Marketing Meeting?
On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 08:02 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > >> > > Very interested just take into account I live in Australia :) +8 GMT or > > +8 UTC. > > I don't think we can find a ideal time for everyone involved but is this ok? > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2007&month=10&day=13&hour=2&min=0&sec=0&p1=1038&p2=43&p3=22 > > Rahul > That would be fine no issue for me. It's 10am so it's all good :) Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Interested in a Fedora Marketing Meeting?
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi Long long ago, we used to have regular marketing meetings which died down when Colin Charles went off to become MySQL community manager instead of doing his duty as the Fedora marketing lead ;-) but that is the past. Now that we have some good amount of interest in marketing Fedora, it might be a good time to start those meetings again, plan, schedule and DO important things. I was hoping we could do one coming Oct 13 Saturday whatever time that is preferable to folks and see what pans out. The agenda would be come up with a proper marketing plan ahead of the Fedora 8 release. Let me know who is interested and what time would be appropriate for you. Rahul Very interested just take into account I live in Australia :) +8 GMT or +8 UTC. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Microsoft possibly to sue RedHat?
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2200717/microsoft-sharpens-aims-patent "People who use Red Hat, at least with respect to our intellectual property, in a sense have an obligation to compensate us," Ballmer said last week at a company event in London discussing online services in the UK. Is this going to affect Fedora indirectly? (Speaking for myself) We can only speculate on what is planned. Depends on whether this is marketing FUD or legal action, it can affect everyone involved and not just Fedora. Note the careful use of "People who use Red Hat" and not Red Hat itself. Also the comments were made in London and not U.S and that's important because different regions have difference laws on what constitutes false advertising. This one has the entire talk and you can see for yourself how well this plays into the Microsoft Novell patent deal earlier. http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft_Scrambling_to_Explain_Ballmer_Comment_on_Red_Hat_Linux/1191963805 Some other relevant links http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/10/10/on-joe-on-patents/ http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2193713,00.asp http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/05/14/deploy-with-confidence/ Rahul My understanding is that the UK would still have Trade Practices Law (I study it at uni atm) which would constitute Misleading conduct on Microsoft's behalf. It could also be construed as Defamatory or Libel since he is defaming RedHat before you couldn't really question it because he was labeling Linux users very broad. In this speech he singled out RedHat. I know you guys at RedHat Legal will look at it but yeah it was something I was shocked about when I read it. Cheers, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Microsoft possibly to sue RedHat?
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2200717/microsoft-sharpens-aims-patent "People who use Red Hat, at least with respect to our intellectual property, in a sense have an obligation to compensate us," Ballmer said last week at a company event in London discussing online services in the UK. Is this going to affect Fedora indirectly? Regards, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
