RE: Fedora Insight: Remaining items
I've updated the Zikula sandbox guide at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox In theory, the first half or so should be enough to completely replicate the pt6 instance on a different machine. Its not too complicated as a process, fortunately. As far as I can tell, our major remaining item(s) is the template/design work which will require input from me as in places we will need some advanced template logic. We're very close, but we'll need some bandwidth from both me and the design team to get us over the finishing line. Simon -Original Message- From: Pascal Calarco [mailto:pcala...@nd.edu] Sent: 09 December 2009 00:56 To: Simon Birtwistle; For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base Subject: Fedora Insight: Remaining items Hi all -- Simon made excellent progress on Monday resolving most of the errors on publictest6 for Fedora Insight. Xinhua works nicely and I am able to submit, decision, and publish articles with the workflow we designed for FWN. However, we are not ready to launch yet. We still need to cluster individual FWN beats into a single issue. When I publish items, they aren't showing up on the interface yet, as the design needs to get synched with the templates that we worked on at FUDCon. There are a number of design tickets open that Mo was working on. Diana made good progress on some of these, and we should get the detail for these tickets updated, but there are a number of tickets that we need Mo or someone else on the design team to document and work on. We also did not quite get to the staging server, AFAIK. Perhaps we could meet on IRC sometime later this week to discuss further? Thanks! - pascal No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.100/2554 - Release Date: 12/09/09 07:32:00 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Zikula hackfest details
We're now hanging out in #fudcon-room-4 on freenode, and logging the whole day's conversation with zodbot. Simon -Original Message- From: fedora-docs-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-docs-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mel Chua Sent: 06 December 2009 15:36 To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base; For participants of the Documentation Project; fedora-news- l...@redhat.com Subject: Zikula hackfest details https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula_hackfest If you're joining us online, look in #fedora-mktg for pcalarco (Pascal), itbegins (Simon) or mchua (myself) and we'll get you started. If you're joining us in person, head to room 4 in the SEQ building - we'll be there all day. Today's goal: get Fedora Insight up on staging and migrate FWN's workflow to it. Hoo-yah! --Mel -- fedora-docs-list mailing list fedora-docs-l...@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.95/2546 - Release Date: 12/05/09 08:13:00 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Fedora Insight HackFest @ FUDCon Toronto today!
This is a lib that needs packaging and deploying to /javscript - I don't know why it wasn't included in the pagemaster module... More details in a sec. -Original Message- From: fedora-marketing-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora- marketing-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Dale Bewley Sent: 06 December 2009 17:54 To: fedora-news-l...@redhat.com Cc: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base Subject: Re: Fedora Insight HackFest @ FUDCon Toronto today! - Pascal Calarco pcala...@nd.edu wrote: From now through 6:00 pm (01:00 UTC) today, we'll be working on Fedora Insight on Zikula here at FUDCon Toronto, and you can join us online at irc.freenode.net in #fudcon-room-4 There are three basic categories of work, including: 1) Infrastructure (lead: Simon Birwhistle) * packaging remaining items (xinhua, etc.) * installing PageMaster add-on for Zikula for workflow engine * resolving other issues 2) Workflow (lead: Pascal Calarco) * documenting how roles are handled in Zikula and in FAS * documenting revised workflow for Fedora Weekly News in Zikula 3) Content (lead: Mel Chua) * what content categories will be targeted for inclusion in Fedora Insight * plan for translation * handling multimedia hosting Come join us online! We'll also be working on this tomorrow, Monday, December 7th through the same time. - pascal Hello, I've been trying to sort of trudge through and implement some of the workflow objects, and I've run into a couple of errors within the Pagemaster module. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dale/Zikula_FWN_Testing#Zikula_Modu les After creating a Pub Type while proceeding to create a Pub Field, one is presented with several PHP warnings along this line: Warning: Call-time pass-by-reference has been deprecated - argument passed by value; If you would like to pass it by reference, modify the declaration of [runtime function name](). If you would like to enable call-time pass-by-reference, you can set allow_call_time_pass_reference to true in your INI file. However, future versions may not support this any longer. in /usr/share/zikula/modules/pagemaster/classes/FormPlugins/pmformlistinpu t.class.php on line 71 Those are not a hindrance. However, after creating a Pub Type called Beats with a Fieldtype of List there is a blocker. You can see the result here or in the screenshot on my scratch page above. https://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/index.php?module=pagemaste rtype=adminfunc=editpubfieldsid=1tid=1#newpubfield The form snippet for editing the list is drawn off to the left of the screen. This may be due to the following error which is triggered when clicking the Pubtype form link in the toolbar. Javascript livepipe package was not found or it's incomplete. It's required for the plugin configuration modalbox. Please download it and copy into your site. The download link leads to here, but there is no livepipe. Only Pagemaster releases from 1 year ago. http://code.zikula.org/pagemaster/downloads -- Dale Bewley - Unix Administrator - Shields Library - UC Davis GPG: 0xB098A0F3 0D5A 9AEB 43F4 F84C 7EFD 1753 064D 2583 B098 A0F3 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.95/2546 - Release Date: 12/06/09 07:30:00 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Post FUDCon Live Survey
It's possible we could get a survey sorted in the Zikula hackfest and host it from Fedora Insight - bit of uncertainty about whether we'll finish everything by the end of the weekend though! -Original Message- From: fedora-marketing-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora- marketing-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Robyn Bergeron Sent: 05 December 2009 12:56 To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base Subject: Re: Post FUDCon Live Survey I'll add these, or mix them in, with the existing question set from previous fudcons, and post the list later today. -robyn On 12/5/09, Yaakov Nemoy loupgaroubl...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/5 loupgaroubl...@gmail.com: Hey List, I've been asked to put up a list of questions for Post FUDCon Survey goodness. I basically want to know the following, so feel free to interpret the questions if you know better than i: I want to know, in no particular order: How useful FL was to the surveyee How many channels did they sit in at once Did they use it from home or from FUDCon Did they follow other feeds like video and audio Did they follow other feeds like social media Did they blog about their experience or create their own items on of FL Did they participate in the channels or did they just sit and watch. How many sessions did they follow What timezone they are in Did they find IRC easy to use, and easy to navigate How long have they been using Fedora How long have they been using Linux How long have they been a member of the Fedora Project (if at all) If they didn't follow the channels, how valuable are the logs after the fact Most of these translate to single questions, i'm going to refine this list further, it might be useful to put this up on the wiki. Let me add a few more: Did you transcribe a session? How many? Was the documentation clear what you were supposed to do? Did you feel like there was alot of interaction on the IRC channel? Did you take any questions from IRC? If so, how many? Did you volunteer to transcribe a session? Did the session leader openly ask for a transcriber? How many people in your session volunteered to transcribe. Is English your native tongue? -Yaakov -- Sent from my mobile device -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.95/2546 - Release Date: 12/05/09 08:13:00 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Fedora Insight: FWN experimentation
1. A WYSIWYG is in the works, but I don't know where packaging has got to. 2. This can easily be changed - just let me know what you would consider a sensible value and I'll change it. 4. Categories admin is site wide, so done through a different admin interface. Check out the categories module (I forget which sub panel it's in). 5. Actually, you can do either. If you're an admin, and you add articles through the admin interface, they go live immediately (unless you select 'Pending' as the status). If you're an ordinary user, there's a subtlety different URL to go to, and anything submitted through there ends up in the approval queue. -Original Message- From: fedora-marketing-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora- marketing-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Pascal Calarco Sent: 29 September 2009 14:54 To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base; fedora-news-list Subject: Fedora Insight: FWN experimentation After resolving an issue with Zikula on publictest6 kindly resolved by Simon, I've been putting some of the content into the test instance of Zikula for Fedora Insight, and have a few comments. 1) Stories need to be marked up in HTML to get the same linkback functionality we currently have with the wiki version, so one decision point is whether we do this markup within Zikula or if we have writers externalize this and use an HTML editor of their choice and then paste in the news story in FI, or whether we want to try to integrate a WYSIWYG editor into Zikula. There are pros and cons to both, but I might suggest external editors, for the reason below. 2) The timeout value on Zikula is too short. In trying to enter the news story for FWN 195 announcements, after finishing the news item my session timed out and all my work was lost. It would be easier to edit this locally and then just create the news story when I am done. 3) We need to decision what level to create news items at. If there is a desire to continue FWN as a identifiable entity, there would be value in presenting news stories at the beat[1] level, and marked and tagged as such. People could subscribe to FWN content by subscribing to anything tagged as FWN, and using the categories, people could do the same as well [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats 4) I was not able to create child categories from the FWN category, which would be useful if people want to subscribe at the beat level, say if they only care about Marketing, for example. How do I do this? 5) It is possible to retain the editorial workflow within FI, since content creators can submit their news items for review before they are published. This isn't the default right now though, so I might suggest having Zikula set up so that it doesn't publish the item right away, at least from an FWN perspective. Okay, that's enough to get discussion started. Comments most welcome! I plan to attend FUDCon Toronto in December and hopefully we can spend some quality time hacking on this on the Sunday and Monday. - pascal Fedora Ambassador, Indiana USA Fedora Weekly News editorial team -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2401 - Release Date: 09/28/09 17:53:00 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Fedora News on Zikula
Sorry for top-post, on my mobile. An editor is awaiting packaging, as our first efforts ran into licensing issues. The plan is to get FI up and running asap with a basic news service, and we'll look into more complex workflows (including notification/category based permissions) post Fedora 12. We've been hitting some fairly hard scheduling requirements for FI, and we've done well to get as far as we have in the time so far. Simon -Original Message- From: Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org Sent: 16 September 2009 14:55 To: fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com; fedora-news-l...@redhat.com Subject: Re: Fedora News on Zikula On 09/16/2009 09:18 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: Agreed, no one should have to hand code HTML to do this work! The way Zikula works on pt6 right now, they are going to have to hand code HTML when posting an article if they are linking images and linking within the document and out to other documents. I'd imagine there are WYSIWYG editors available for Zikula but we don't have any installed. ~m -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Zikula theme status
• Images - This is my biggest concern right now. If you want to post an image in an article, you can't. It won't let you. It just spits out the img tag in plain text. :( I've fixed this - it's normally a security precaution (for the technical amongst you, think CSRF/Cross site scripting). Doesn't apply here, because we have limited admin access. • Comments - I don't know how to get comments forms to appear beneath articles. From searching the Zikula forums, I found out thatEZcomments is a plugin that does it, but we don't seem to have it installed and I'm not sure if it's okay to install. We should have this packaged - if not, it's an easy one to add • RSS - I don't know how to do this. We need one feed for all articles and ideally at some point in the future a podcast and vodcast feed. So this is the RSS module, which has been packaged. • Author names - I can't figure out how to get real human names :( not sure how. Also my method of linking to the author's profile is rather hacky. You can do this via the template - if I can catch you on IRC I can take you through it. • Links for sidebar articles - can't get them, variable is a mystery. When I use the usual variables all the sidebar article links (e.g., individual event details links) come up blank or point to the main article being displayed. In the blocks? I'll have to go through this one on IRC as well. * Feature story - I'd like to have one story displayed in full blinginess on the front page, it seems the news module has a way to do this but I can't figure out how to make it work (how do you assign 'today's feature' to an article?) So this is slightly counter-intuitive, and complicated (unnecessarily so, I smell a feature request...) Another thing I'll take you through on IRC. Any help is greatly appreciated! I hope you like the progress so far. I think it looks *great*. Thanks for all your work, and figuring this stuff out on your own :) Simon -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Fedora Insight update - finally up to date!
On 09/06/2009 08:22 PM, Mel Chua wrote: After multiple failed attempts to keep the FI wikipage up to date, I finally realized the way to keep it up to date was to link to our ticketing system, since *that* is up to date. https://fedorahosted.org/marketing- team/query?status=newstatus=assignedstatus=reopenedcomponent=Fedora+ Insightorder=priority (from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#What.27s_happening) Everything seems to be going along pretty well - there's one infra-related thing that we're blocking on and need to resolve soon, which is repackaging fasauth (which is now useful for all zikula instances rather than specifically tuned to what FI needs - docs folks, I think it's ready for you now). I've been told this should be pretty easy for someone who Knows Packaging. https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/26 One of the packages I submitted is still waiting on review. Considering the urgency expressed in the request to the mailing list, that seems unusual. Status? So pagemaster has a bundled library, FilterUtil, which needs to be separated to a different package. This isn't quite as simple as it sounds, as the FilterUtil package needs to install to a different directory, and requires a minor code change. In short, the following needs to happen to pagemaster: Strip out classes/FilterUtil And the following needs to happen FilterUtil must be packaged as a separate class, installing to the config/classes directory in a Zikula installation. The source for this is here: http://code.zikula.org/filterutil/browser/trunk/ This file: http://code.zikula.org/filterutil/browser/trunk/FilterUtil.class.php Must be modified, on line 16, to change the path from the current 'includes/pnobjlib/FilterUtil' to 'config/classes'. The package needs to be submitted for approval. There is one further change to make. We need to choose between modifying the code to pagemaster (in at least one location: http://code.zikula.org/pagemaster/browser/trunk/modules/pagemaster/pnuserapi .php lines 303-306) or creating a symlink from config/classes/modules/pagemaster/classes/FilterUtil to config/classes/FilterUtil. Sadly, this is more complicated than it at first seems because no one ever expected FilterUtil to come up against Fedora packaging guidelines :) Simon -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Zikula questions at this week's Marketing meeting
Sorry for my disappearing this week, been a bit crazy (I didn't get away from work until 1am last night, and 11pm today). So Zikula 2 is our long term, major change developmental branch. We're moving to a fully object oriented codebase, reducing code size while keeping functionality and improving performance. Along the way we should pick up a few features. But, by its nature, development of Zikula 2 is a pretty slow process, so we're talking 1 year plus before I predict it hitting stable. The good news is we maintain backwards compatibility in our APIs and so on, so all the modules we set up now should work fine. In the case of pagemaster, they are including the library precisely because Zikula 2 is so far off. When it gets nearer (probably release candidate stage), there will be a new version of pagemaster without the FilterUtil library bundled. Sorry for missing the meeting, but thanks for sending me this email direct so I saw it :) Simon -Original Message- From: Mel Chua [mailto:m...@redhat.com] Sent: 01 September 2009 20:14 To: Simon Birtwistle Cc: Toshio Kuratomi; Fedora Marketing; logist...@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Zikula questions at this week's Marketing meeting Toshio had some questions about some of the module packages (context pasted below). abadger1999 mchua: So for the secondary package (pagemaster) -- I'm not happy approving it with the bundled filterutils abadger1999 mchua: I've been trying to catch itbegins on irc to ask him about when zikula2 will be out/whether we can upgrade to that in FI/EPEL or if it's incompatible, etc. abadger1999 mchua: There are cases where other packages had contained backports -- but to things from the Core language (python stdlib stuff is what I'm thinking) not to addons. abadger1999 mchua: Anyhow -- If someone else wanted to review and approve that module, we'd want to make sure that it used the zikula-2 library i available and the backport if not... but I'm not sure how to do that in php. Simon, in case you see this in the next 50 minutes - were you planning on coming to the Fedora Marketing meeting today? I'm going through the agenda now and it looks like FI should be most of it. (If not, no worries, I'll keep logistics up to date on zikula and marketing up to date on FI, and keep chasing these answers down.) --Mel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.72/2337 - Release Date: 08/31/09 05:50:00 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Fedora Insight Zikula Instance - please help us find a packager
On 08/26/2009 03:30 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: Hello Mel and Bob again, I got some time to improve the srpms http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/zikula/ I am not familiar with zikula so I can't file package reviews for these. Hence either * you find someone who can maintain them * or you can co-maintain them with me and I will guide/mentor you through the process, but you will still need another reviewer Thanks Chitlesh. Made some minor changes and submitted them for review https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519483 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519482 This sort of reply to an urgent request of Fedora volunteers continues to amaze me. Thanks all of you for stepping up to be counted. Simon -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Temporary FI platform
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Mel Chuam...@redhat.com wrote: Yes. Let me know when you get something up, I will get familiarized and then we can get something going for people to start throwing darts at :) It's up - http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula - have fun! I registered, but the mail with my password was never received.. :) You'll probably find that publictest machines don't have a mailserver installed. An admin will need to set you up with a default password. Also, registration shouldn't be necessary with the fasauth module I built - but it does need to be installed. Simon -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
AuthFAS Zikula Patch
One patch file. Warning: developed entirely without testing, but in theory it should work... Simon 0001-Two-changes.patch Description: Binary data -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: Temporary FI platform
I'd definitely like to see the code for that somewhere though :-) Oops, and just a few seconds later, I discover https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-zikula/ with its git repo at git://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-zikula.git. And if that wasn't enough, it's already in the infrastructure repo, so you can just yum install zikula-module-fedora-fasauth when you set it up on a publictest machine. I am responsible for zikula-fasauth (yes, I'm lurking on most Fedora lists). FasAuth does the following: When you attempt to login it: 1. Checks you are a valid user in FAS 2. Checks that you are a member of a select few groups (CRA, cms-admin I think) 3. If you've been already, you get logged in 4. If you haven't been, you get a zikula mirror-account created 5. From here you are logged in Your password and username will always be controlled by FAS, and you have a shell account on the Zikula system for Zikula's access control and basic functionality. Access control and permissioning is handled by the Zikula system (we agreed with docs this would be better than adding loads of groups to FAS). I also recommend having a fallback vanilla Zikula admin account on the instance, so that should for any reason FAS go down (maintenance, error etc) we can still admin the website. Simon -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
RE: ETA on the CMS? (Was: Podcast feed)
I'm the Zikula guy, and I'm lurking waiting for packaging to complete :) I would learn to package myself, but I have final year exams for my degree in 2 weeks so it's currently a little low on my priority list. I'll have much more time to press on with this in 3 weeks or so. Simon -Original Message- From: fedora-marketing-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora- marketing-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Susan Lauber Sent: 14 May 2009 23:21 To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base Subject: Re: ETA on the CMS? (Was: Podcast feed) On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Jack Aboutboul j...@redhat.com wrote: Where is the documentation on whats going on with this, if any? What did we decide to use? The evaluation period was tracking on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CMS_solution_for_Fedora_Project_websites (a page that probably needs updates) The decision was zikula. Infrastructure has provided a test system but it needs to be redone with the fedora rpms The modules need to be packaged. The list of modules to package is is in this thread: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2009-May/msg00041.html At least one is started: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492091 There are a number of Docs Project members that want to learn to package but all need help (probably with more than just packaging) There may be a packaging class focusing on these modules at the FAD at SELF (I wish I could go). -Susan Jack David Nalley wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Ian Weller i...@ianweller.org wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 05:17:29PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: CMS coming soon Speaking of which, what's the ETA on this? Def. post-F-11 I honestly haven't had the time I wish I could dedicate to getting all of the modules packaged. In addition, Toshio pointed out several problems which have required packaging some additional php modules. I'd argue we are 2 months away at our current rate - and I am probably forgetting about some critical path stuff that needs to happen. -- Susan Lauber, (RHCX, RHCA, RHCSS) Lauber System Solutions, Inc. http://www.laubersolutions.com gpg: 15AC F794 A3D9 64D1 D9CE 4C26 EFC3 11C2 BFA1 0974 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.329 / Virus Database: 270.12.30/2115 - Release Date: 05/14/09 17:54:00 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
