Re: distributor spin

2008-09-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Arnav Kalra wrote:
I want help on how to do it as i do not know how to create apps. so help 
please


There isn't any need to create new applications for creating a spin.

Refer

http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/05/31/remixing-fedora-7/

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Re: Distributor Spin

2008-09-16 Thread Arnav Kalra
It will look like fedora in most of cases except when the maker
wants too much customization. It will include RPMs from all repos.
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Re: Distributor Spin

2008-09-16 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
 It will look like fedora in most of cases except when the maker

If you are making a spin, then you are the maker.

If you want to provide an app for everyone to create its own spin, you're
too late, Revisor is already there (and you should contribute to it :)

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Re: Distributor Spin

2008-09-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Arnav Kalra wrote:
It will look like fedora in most of cases except when the maker 
wants too much customization. It will include RPMs from all repos.


Go ahead and do it. Repeatedly discussing it here won't accomplish much.

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Re: distributor spin

2008-09-15 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen

Arnav Kalra wrote:
i hope to create a distributor spin. in this spin i hope to add a 
software with which we can make any type of spin with that software in 
conjunction with the everything spin package tree.we could also add 
packages from other repos and apps




Hi Arnav,

Could you contact the Spin SIG with this particular use case? We love 
use-cases, you know ;-)


https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-spins

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Re: Fedora Distributor Spin

2008-09-15 Thread Arnav Kalra
It is just like fedora spins except the following main differences :

   - Inclusion of all RPM repos.
   - Custom Artwork
   - Support for all media types
   - can include any RPM
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Re: Fedora Distributor Spin

2008-09-15 Thread Pierre-Yves

Arnav Kalra wrote:

It is just like fedora spins except the following main differences :



   - can include any RPM


As far as I know, any of the RPM present in the official repositories, 
not from other repositories.


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Re: Fedora Distributor Spin

2008-09-15 Thread Nicu Buculei

Arnav Kalra wrote:

It is just like fedora spins except the following main differences :

* Inclusion of all RPM repos.
* Custom Artwork


Why? I think if it is Fedora then it should look and feel like Fedora.


* Support for all media types
* can include any RPM



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Re: distributor spin

2008-09-14 Thread Jason Benedict

Arnav Kalra wrote:
this is not going against FOSS it is spreading FOSS to all and if the 
creator wants to have something closed source in his OS he has full 
freedom. I only want this not to have a patented spin but to customize 
fedora according to one's needs.
Isn't Fedora already doing it? There's also Fedora Spin, 
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ . If you are talking about like eeeDora 
type? or you are talking about a spin like centOS off Redhat type? . 
May be you describe a little more of what is in your mind of this 
distributor spin or you talking about tools to create distributor spin 
whereby allow  any creator  have the freedom to place custom proprietor 
software of his choice?


My opinion is, any created spin based on fedora core that consisted 
closed source or propietor software should not e Fedora Distribution 
anymore.


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Re: distributor spin

2008-09-14 Thread Leo Jackson
Jason B,
I think what you want in not here if you want to market Fedora under your own 
ideas for consumers to pick and choose what they want like Slax and you sell 
it, well you would need a core and a auto build system for compiling and then 
have a web site to link people to there wants let them view all packages pick 
and choose. Or offer your services to choose for them. And sell the ISO or disk 
through the mail. Then your not actually charging for the OS, but for the job 
of getting all together.

EX:: Graphics programs for artists
3d Software Ink scape, Gimp, Blender, Synfig etc for animators.

Leo Albert Jackson Jr
Owner Head Programmer
LJ's Electronics and Software


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 From: Jason Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: distributor spin
 To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base 
 fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com
 Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 7:07 AM
 Arnav Kalra wrote:
  this is not going against FOSS it is spreading FOSS to
 all and if the 
  creator wants to have something closed source in his
 OS he has full 
  freedom. I only want this not to have a patented spin
 but to customize 
  fedora according to one's needs.
 Isn't Fedora already doing it? There's also Fedora
 Spin, 
 http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ . If you are talking about
 like eeeDora 
 type? or you are talking about a spin like centOS off
 Redhat type? . 
 May be you describe a little more of what is in your mind
 of this 
 distributor spin or you talking about tools to create
 distributor spin 
 whereby allow  any creator  have the freedom to place
 custom proprietor 
 software of his choice?
 
 My opinion is, any created spin based on fedora core that
 consisted 
 closed source or propietor software should not e Fedora
 Distribution 
 anymore.
 
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Re: distributor spin

2008-09-13 Thread Jason Benedict Low

Frank Murphy wrote:


https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-August/msg00133.html

Basically wants to use Fedora as a base for his patented s\w.
Which I think goes against all gpl stands for.


Frank
  

noted. I think goes against FOSS stands well.

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Re: distributor spin

2008-08-24 Thread Max Spevack

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008, Jason Benedict wrote:

you can read out linuxfromscratch to learn all out how you can build 
a Linux from ground zero. With that know-how, then you can see how you 
want to do a package management system and update system and etc for 
your distro .


i had created many distro(out of fun and learning)  from scratch 
myself and even had stripped RH8/9 or have rebuild with uclibc 
etcbut patented kinda not viable with all opensource GPL and alike 
licensing  maybe only your invented propietary package management 
system and update system and system magement application



I'm confused, is the parent trying to make a new distro, or to make a 
custom respin of Fedora?


The first is hard, the second allows you to leverage our 
already-existing infrastructure.


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo
https://fedorahosted.org/revisor

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Re: distributor spin

2008-08-24 Thread Jason Benedict Low
no idea as i just reply to his phrase well that spin would be patented 
and it would not be fedora


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Max Spevack wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008, Jason Benedict wrote:

you can read out linuxfromscratch to learn all out how you can 
build a Linux from ground zero. With that know-how, then you can see 
how you want to do a package management system and update system and 
etc for your distro .


i had created many distro(out of fun and learning)  from scratch 
myself and even had stripped RH8/9 or have rebuild with uclibc 
etcbut patented kinda not viable with all opensource GPL and 
alike licensing  maybe only your invented propietary package 
management system and update system and system magement 
application



I'm confused, is the parent trying to make a new distro, or to make a 
custom respin of Fedora?


The first is hard, the second allows you to leverage our 
already-existing infrastructure.


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo
https://fedorahosted.org/revisor

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distributor spin

2008-08-23 Thread Arnav Kalra
actually i do not know how to create one. well that spin would be patented
and it would not be fedora. it would be the creators own os based on fedora.
a tutorial would need to be given in the downloaded file on how to create an
iso and how to brand it
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