Fedora-tour idea
Feature idea from the channel tonight - sharing the results of brainstorming/thinking out loud. --- 05:19:30 If jrandom comes into #fedora saying "hey i just installed fedora, everything was simply stellar" we could do a quick "hey do you have five minutes? 05:20:20 PhrkOnLsh: I actually wonder... if... I'm thinking about fedora-tour now. 05:20:31 mchua: hmm :) 05:20:36 When you install Fedora from scratch, it prompts you at the end if you want to submit your smolt profile. 05:20:42 If you say yes, it automagically ships it off. 05:20:54 But what if - in Fedora-tour, or something - by the little "contribute" section, it went a bit further? 05:21:08 And said "hey, here are some things we'd love for you to check, and see if they work - try doing X, Y, Z" 05:21:42 and then a few minutes later, "congratulations you just submitted your first test case! now go see where it went, and who's going to pick it up from there..." 05:21:52 oh, that'd be interesting. 05:21:52 hmmm 05:21:55 yeah 05:21:58 "follow the open source white rabbit" 05:22:02 i like it 05:22:03 "hopefully down the rabbit hole" 05:22:04 :) 05:22:23 redpill! 05:22:39 follow the white rabbit, neo 05:22:42 (the Matrix, obviously, got the colors mixed up. Blue should be down the rabbit hole.) 05:23:04 take the redpill, install the blue linux :P -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora-tour idea
Advocatus diaboli would say on slashdot, via Matt Asay: "See, Red Hat wants to abuse poor little users for free testing" what would you counter to sth like that? FTR - I love the idea, but I want it to be perfect ;-) Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer| EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33 23 249 Technopark II, Haus C | Fax:+49 (0)89 205071-111 Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 | 85630 Grasbrunn| _ Reg. Adresse: Red Hat GmbH, Technopark II, Haus C, Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 85630 Grasbrunn, Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 153243 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Brendan Lane, Charlie Peters, Michael Cunningham, Charles Cachera _ GPG Key: 3AC3C8AB Fingerprint: 3D1E C4E0 DD67 E16D E47A 9564 A72F 5C39 3AC3 C8AB - Original Message - From: fedora-marketing-list-boun...@redhat.com To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base Sent: Thu Jan 07 02:49:27 2010 Subject: Fedora-tour idea Feature idea from the channel tonight - sharing the results of brainstorming/thinking out loud. --- 05:19:30 If jrandom comes into #fedora saying "hey i just installed fedora, everything was simply stellar" we could do a quick "hey do you have five minutes? 05:20:20 PhrkOnLsh: I actually wonder... if... I'm thinking about fedora-tour now. 05:20:31 mchua: hmm :) 05:20:36 When you install Fedora from scratch, it prompts you at the end if you want to submit your smolt profile. 05:20:42 If you say yes, it automagically ships it off. 05:20:54 But what if - in Fedora-tour, or something - by the little "contribute" section, it went a bit further? 05:21:08 And said "hey, here are some things we'd love for you to check, and see if they work - try doing X, Y, Z" 05:21:42 and then a few minutes later, "congratulations you just submitted your first test case! now go see where it went, and who's going to pick it up from there..." 05:21:52 oh, that'd be interesting. 05:21:52 hmmm 05:21:55 yeah 05:21:58 "follow the open source white rabbit" 05:22:02 i like it 05:22:03 "hopefully down the rabbit hole" 05:22:04 :) 05:22:23 redpill! 05:22:39 follow the white rabbit, neo 05:22:42 (the Matrix, obviously, got the colors mixed up. Blue should be down the rabbit hole.) 05:23:04 take the redpill, install the blue linux :P -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora-tour idea
On 01/07/2010 03:03 AM, Jan Wildeboer wrote: Advocatus diaboli would say on slashdot, via Matt Asay: "See, Red Hat wants to abuse poor little users for free testing" what would you counter to sth like that? FTR - I love the idea, but I want it to be perfect ;-) Jan Ooo. Thanks, Jan - we need more advocatus diaboli on this list. ;) It's an opt-in activity in the "do you want to learn how to contribute" section of fedora-tour; you won't have to do this - or even see it - if you're not interested. Basically, a "Learn More!" wizard instead of href="http://link.org";>learn more!. Alternatively: Think of it as an included lesson people can choose to deploy if they're curious about how open source communities work together, and how they can begin contributing to that ecosystem if they take a look and decide they're interested. I imagine there would be a "are you interested in learning about $foo?" click, and then a "yes, I'd like to contribute in this way!" click; by the time they get to the "hello, I am a QA contributor" part, they'll know full well that's what they're doing, that they want to do it, and that they have a choice that will not disadvantage them in any way if they don't pick it. (Would this work as a counter? What holes are there in it?) --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora-tour idea
Maybe a simple list of the new and exciting features sorted by user profile (desktop users/ engineers/ gamers / mobile devices/etc) and then a link per chapter so that the user may access more info should he/she desire. After all, every s/w house needs users as final testers, otherwise it is not possible to provide any kind of quality or improvements. Fedora asks for contributors. This is something the community does by definition, so it is no one to blame, all distros need their users to point them to some direction. It is normal. As about the implementation of the "more info" most probably we (from marketing team) should help the development teams to produce end-user type material (I bet they already have produced technical documentation) based on the existing documentation. Then we can test the content with the help of non-technical persons (I was thinking about my wife and a couple of friends) based on their interest, and finally add the required final touches. Sakis Samaras On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Mel Chua wrote: > On 01/07/2010 03:03 AM, Jan Wildeboer wrote: > >> Advocatus diaboli would say on slashdot, via Matt Asay: "See, Red Hat >> wants >> to abuse poor little users for free testing" what would you counter to sth >> like that? >> >> FTR - I love the idea, but I want it to be perfect ;-) >> >> Jan >> > > Ooo. Thanks, Jan - we need more advocatus diaboli on this list. ;) > > It's an opt-in activity in the "do you want to learn how to contribute" > section of fedora-tour; you won't have to do this - or even see it - if > you're not interested. Basically, a "Learn More!" wizard instead of href="http://link.org";>learn more!. > > Alternatively: Think of it as an included lesson people can choose to > deploy if they're curious about how open source communities work together, > and how they can begin contributing to that ecosystem if they take a look > and decide they're interested. > > I imagine there would be a "are you interested in learning about $foo?" > click, and then a "yes, I'd like to contribute in this way!" click; by the > time they get to the "hello, I am a QA contributor" part, they'll know full > well that's what they're doing, that they want to do it, and that they have > a choice that will not disadvantage them in any way if they don't pick it. > > (Would this work as a counter? What holes are there in it?) > > --Mel > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
