Re: Fedora 11: Firewall - Using the Wizard

2009-05-26 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)

Rahul Sundaram wrote:


Frank,
Just out of curiosity, isn't it still IPTables with a fancy frontend?


Yes but iptables on the command line is completely out of reach for
desktop users.  iptables and usability have nothing in common.

Rahul



and Usability is a feature.

Frank

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Re: Fedora 11: Firewall - Using the Wizard

2009-05-26 Thread Eric Christensen
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 03:56, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 Frank,
 Just out of curiosity, isn't it still IPTables with a fancy frontend?

 Yes but iptables on the command line is completely out of reach for
 desktop users.  iptables and usability have nothing in common.

 Rahul


 and Usability is a feature.

 Frank

Absolutely.  The way it reads, it would appear that Fedora has created
a new firewall when in fact we have just made the existing firewall
more user friendly and easier to maintain.  It's an important
distinction.

If people think we are doing something different on the back-end then
they want to know what it is and if it's secure and tested.  I think
Fedora gets more points for providing better functionality to an
existing product.

Eric

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Re: Fedora 11: Firewall - Using the Wizard

2009-05-25 Thread Eric Christensen
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 04:04, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://easylinuxcds.com/blog/?p=3428

 Firewalls need to be simple and firewalls need to be complex….yes, this is
 a dilemma of huge consequence.  However, Fedora has accomplished both in one
 firewall.


 Frank

Frank,
Just out of curiosity, isn't it still IPTables with a fancy frontend?

Eric

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Re: Fedora 11: Firewall - Using the Wizard

2009-05-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2009 07:13 AM, Eric Christensen wrote:
 On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 04:04, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
 frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://easylinuxcds.com/blog/?p=3428

 Firewalls need to be simple and firewalls need to be complex….yes, this is
 a dilemma of huge consequence.  However, Fedora has accomplished both in one
 firewall.


 Frank
 
 Frank,
 Just out of curiosity, isn't it still IPTables with a fancy frontend?

Yes but iptables on the command line is completely out of reach for
desktop users.  iptables and usability have nothing in common.

Rahul

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Fedora 11: Firewall - Using the Wizard

2009-05-23 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)

http://easylinuxcds.com/blog/?p=3428

Firewalls need to be simple and firewalls need to be complex….yes, this 
is a dilemma of huge consequence.  However, Fedora has accomplished both 
in one firewall.



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