This just in, from #fedora-marketing!
Short version:
Karsten: If Fedora Marketing doesn't have bandwidth to drive an F12
print magazine, perhaps RHT Brand could chip in
manpower/funding/resources-in-general to increase Fedora Marketing's
bandwidth enough to get an F12 magazine to happen.
Mel: As long as it's owned by the Fedora community and supported by RHT
instead of vice versa, that'd rock!
David: We probably have flexibility on the deadline, and should tell
Rikki that this might become a possibility.
Max: I will ask Brand!
Long version:
mchua: I'm wondering ... I know this is crazy ... and we sadly
can't get commitment this week ..
mchua: if the Brand team at RHT would like to help
we could really use one of their project managers, for example
and some of the writers; I'd love to see Bascha write something,
for example.
IMO, it could fit in with some of their existing campaigns.
and it's a nice space filler while they let RHEL 6 bake.
here, greg and max would have the best guess on if those folks
might like/dislike.
if the budget is US$10K, right, that is potentially doable.
(yes, you learn to separate your sense of personal budget from
business budget; I spend for other people what I would never spend for
myself>)
* mchua needs to acquire this magical skill.
quaid: argh, timing of Summit...
* neverho0d has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
quaid, ke4qqq: do you have any idea how hard and fast the
end-of-week deadline is?
quaid: do you think RHT Brand would be willing to put somebody's
time into driving this project (give them "Fedora contributor time" to
do it)?
quaid: 'cause even if Brand helps out, that still leaves an
empty driver's seat, unless enough help materializes that the driver's
seat duties are uberlight
quaid: 'cause I'd also want to make sure it's a Fedora Thing
supported by RHT, not a RHT thing that happens to mention Fedora in a
lot of places
(the ties and the collaboration should be close and strong, but
ownership should ultimately come down on the Fedora community side, in
my mind.)
* mchua thinking out loud, and welcomes counteropinions slammed against
these thoughts.
(They're not particularly well-formed.)
mchua: so perhaps if brand provides the necessary resources
(mainly pm stuff and budget) maybe we tell rikki that
I get the feeling that it's not hard (given the fact of how
they have let me slip with this.
I am about to disappear into a meeting for a bit
ke4qqq: well, we should run it by brand before we tell rikki
"yay brand!" but I think it's definitely an idea worth exploring
* mchua waves to ke4qqq, have a good meeting!
yeah - not committing on their part
at the same time, I don't think there is harm in updating
status with rikki
+1 for this being a fedora thing supported by RHT and not vice
versa
right, let Rikki know that we have some ideas that we need
another week to fix
I think, of all people, Brand would understand the value of
having it Fedora forward
quaid: who in Brand to ping on this? or is this a "gregdek and
spevack should ping brand, so let's ping Greg and Max" thing?
* mchua winces a little at the tight timeline; we're already racing the
clock to get FI in, and I'll probably feel a lot better about this once
the module packaging issues are all worked out for that
(and able to take on more "will we make it? will we mke it?"
risk)
then again, 'risk aversion' is not an adjective that usually
applies to me...
* spevack reads backward
* quaid busy, back in a moment
mchua: what's the bottom line here?
spevack: Linux Pro Magazine can do a Fedora Magazine print
version for us (think FI content on paper) for the F12 release for
~$10k, but we need to decide yes/no on F12 soon (this week, or next, no
hard deadline per se)
spevack: I originally said "our F12 plate is full, let's do this
for F(later-version)" and then quaid brought up the idea of asking RHT
Brand if they'd like to fund and drive it instead
* spevack will get in touch with cgrams ASAP and have a conversation
and report back
spevack: Ok. Do you need any more info? I'm going to paste this
log to the mktg list as well, but
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2009-July/msg00140.html
may be helpful
when you're talking with cgrams.
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