Re: Meeting minutes - 16/09/2005
On Sep 20, 2005, at 5:36 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On 9/20/05, Alex Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Visit FUDCon London 2005 http://fedoraproject.org/fudcon FUDCon: Fedora Users and Developers Conference Speaking of fudcon is there a draft variation using the logo draft in a way that makes clever sense for fudcon. I'd just thought I ask..because fudcon breaks with the pattern of other variations...not being a simple 2 word fedora + subproject.. and use the same variation approach with secondary color/second word doesn't seem to fit very well. ••• there isn't one yet -jefdraft draftspaleta ••• Matthew Muñoz | Capstrat | 919-882-1975 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Meeting minutes - 16/09/2005
Nicu Buculei wrote: Suppose I would want to make my own Fedora fan page and want to put a header with my fedora fan page on top of it with the same font face. There are lots of GPL projects out there that use commercial fonts for their logos. For instance, phpBB had no regrets using Tripex for theirs. Besides that, I think Matt's proposed logos are very neat and plain... cool, if I may say so. -- Ovidiu Lixandru linux360 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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Ovidiu Lixandru wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Suppose I would want to make my own Fedora fan page and want to put a header with my fedora fan page on top of it with the same font face. There are lots of GPL projects out there that use commercial fonts for their logos. For instance, phpBB had no regrets using Tripex for theirs. This is true, but also a lot of GPL projects are changing the fonts used in the logo from propietary one to a free one at the request of the community. For example such a change is expected at OpenOffice.org. Regarding your phpBB example, look at http://www.phpbb.com/images/pic-home2.jpg The font used for creating communities is probably Arial Bold Italic but can be easily replaced with Bitstream Vera Sans Bold Italic. Is not the logo, but the wordmark which may be needed to be customised. Besides that, I think Matt's proposed logos are very neat and plain... cool, if I may say so. The quality of the logo and the font used for the wordmark are completely orthogonal. -- nicu my hats collection: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/hats Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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Nicu Buculei wrote: This is true, but also a lot of GPL projects are changing the fonts used in the logo from propietary one to a free one at the request of the community. For example such a change is expected at OpenOffice.org. This is fine, as long as the only argument is not hey, it's commercial!. Open-source does not mean freeware, even though most people make this mistake. The hired/designated designer paid for the font, does his job and delivers the product. Regarding your phpBB example, look at http://www.phpbb.com/images/pic-home2.jpg The font used for creating communities is probably Arial Bold Italic but can be easily replaced with Bitstream Vera Sans Bold Italic. Nope, it's Tripex (or Triplex, I've found the font using both of the names) and it's commercial. Take a look here: http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/emigre/triplex/ The quality of the logo and the font used for the wordmark are completely orthogonal. You could say the same thing about open-source and commercialware, at a first glance. -- Ovidiu Lixandru linux360 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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Hi This is fine, as long as the only argument is not hey, it's commercial!. Open-source does not mean freeware, even though most people make this mistake. The hired/designated designer paid for the font, does his job and delivers the product. You want to say hey, it's proprietary there regards Rahul -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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+1 On 9/19/05, Jeremy Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two ways to look at the font issue. One is that when used (and controlled) as part of a protected trademark or logotype, you don't necessarily want to make it that easy for folks to make derivatives. What if they took the font and made figaro, in the same blue? Trademarks have to be protectable to be protected. You can't tell someone to stop using a free font in their logo. Second way to look at it is, maybe Red Hat does open this font, and/or make it part of the default font set in Fedora, with wording as to how it may be used in conjunction with a fedora related project logo, or otherwise used to support fedora related marketing. IMHO, since we are limited in what we can use to make people instantly think of fedora when they see the font or the logotype by itself (e.g. no visual fedora, just the name), we should consider/allow the possibility that this font will only be used in an official capacity, and that perhaps a family of font that supports it, or compliments it very well, could be released for all the other legit marketing uses. --jeremy -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Visit FUDCon London 2005 http://fedoraproject.org/fudcon FUDCon: Fedora Users and Developers Conference -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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* Logo - First round at: http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/. Infinite freedom isn't decided as the slogan, but the general consensus is that the logo is loved. Concentrate on logo feedback today. Color can be fixed later (like Legacy or something) Here is a variation of the initial first logo draft http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=369984postcount=36 Luya -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.jp.popstarmail.org -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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On 9/20/05, Alex Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Visit FUDCon London 2005 http://fedoraproject.org/fudcon FUDCon: Fedora Users and Developers Conference Speaking of fudcon is there a draft variation using the logo draft in a way that makes clever sense for fudcon. I'd just thought I ask..because fudcon breaks with the pattern of other variations...not being a simple 2 word fedora + subproject.. and use the same variation approach with secondary color/second word doesn't seem to fit very well. -jefdraft draftspaleta -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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There are two ways to look at the font issue. One is that when used (and controlled) as part of a protected trademark or logotype, you don't necessarily want to make it that easy for folks to make derivatives. What if they took the font and made figaro, in the same blue? Trademarks have to be protectable to be protected. You can't tell someone to stop using a free font in their logo. Second way to look at it is, maybe Red Hat does open this font, and/or make it part of the default font set in Fedora, with wording as to how it may be used in conjunction with a fedora related project logo, or otherwise used to support fedora related marketing. IMHO, since we are limited in what we can use to make people instantly think of fedora when they see the font or the logotype by itself (e.g. no visual fedora, just the name), we should consider/allow the possibility that this font will only be used in an official capacity, and that perhaps a family of font that supports it, or compliments it very well, could be released for all the other legit marketing uses. --jeremy -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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Steven Garrity wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: And how does one recreate it using FOSS? Or better yet, using only what comes with Fedora? Self serving is a good thing here. I'm not totally in disagreement here - free is better. However, why do you need to recreate it? You can't recreate a photograph. Suppose I would want to make my own Fedora fan page and want to put a header with my fedora fan page on top of it with the same font face. That said, you can do everything else in the stack (Inkscape/Gimp, etc.) with foss. If it really is a sticking point (which I don't think it should be), the symbol can still stand on it's own with another font. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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Karsten Wade wrote: On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 17:03 -0300, Steven Garrity wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: Yeah, using a non-free font seems like a no-go for me. While a free font would obviously be ideal, there just aren't many good ones (yet?). Right, and there won't be unless people make them. Seems like Fedora Font Project might be a good idea. :) I'm sure there are good font designers interested in freeing some fonts. Following the success of the Open Clip Art Library (http://openclipart.org), we planned to create a similar project for fonts, but this is still in incubation stage, with only a placeholder wiki so far (http://www.openfontlibrary.org), but definitely the intention is to push it in the future (we have to sort out first some internals of OCAL) -- nicu my hats collection: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/hats Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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Colin Charles wrote: * Logo - First round at: http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/. Infinite freedom isn't decided as the slogan, but the general consensus is that the logo is loved. Concentrate on logo feedback today. Color can be fixed later (like Legacy or something) Is, by any chance, the font used for the wordmark a free one? So we can freely make our derivative materials (think wallpapers, CD covers etc.) If not (and I suspect this to be the case), what is the name of the font used, so we can get it in our own ways? -- nicu my hats collection: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/hats Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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I thought of something that may make the f more obvious. Rather than an outline, I though an 'inline' might look a bit better. Anyway, here is my modification: http://www.geocities.com/tejas_dinkar/FedoraLogo.png It is a quick job with kpaint, so it is a bit boxish inside. It needs to be redone. Also, if we write In 'f' inite Freedom, replacing the f again with the logo, it may help people understand the meaning of the symbol Just my $0.02 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 10:44 -0400, Matt Munoz wrote: On Sep 16, 2005, at 2:02 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: Is, by any chance, the font used for the wordmark a free one? So we can freely make our derivative materials (think wallpapers, CD covers etc.) If not (and I suspect this to be the case), what is the name of the font used, so we can get it in our own ways? ••• You're right, the font used for the wordmark is not a free one. Until the logo is approved, I'd rather not go into details about the font... I know the world of free/open source fonts is not that big, but is there anything we can do about this? It seems anathema to me to have our logo about infinite freedom be made with a non-free font. Can we pay someone to create a new font and free it? - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Tech Writer * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 01155F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 Red Hat SELinux Guide http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/selinux-guide/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 12:12 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote: It seems anathema to me to have our logo about infinite freedom be made with a non-free font. Yeah, using a non-free font seems like a no-go for me. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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Jesse Keating wrote: And how does one recreate it using FOSS? Or better yet, using only what comes with Fedora? Self serving is a good thing here. I'm not totally in disagreement here - free is better. However, why do you need to recreate it? You can't recreate a photograph. That said, you can do everything else in the stack (Inkscape/Gimp, etc.) with foss. If it really is a sticking point (which I don't think it should be), the symbol can still stand on it's own with another font. Steven Garrity -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 13:50 -0400, Tammy Fox wrote: On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 13:33 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On 9/15/05, Paul Stauffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I think the trademark as a whole (symbol + wordmark) looks excellent. And I like the look of the wordmark itself a lot; I think it really succeeds in conveying the intended feeling. I really like http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/fedoraLogo_10.jpg as a model for the story were are trying to tell people when we talk about fedora. No technical mobojumbo... its emotive and its about as minimal a description as you can get. I'd actually like to reuse a variation of that symbol equation with the final trademark on the righthand side as an ad banner. Agreed. I love the simplicity of this explanation. It would also look good on a t-shirt. ;-) Can we demo such a banner via Red Hat Magazine? We'll obviously need a good page to land on when people click-through. Such a banner run via RH Mag needs to be the end-result of a campaign that we put together here. http://fedoraproject.org/infiniteFreedom/ ? - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Tech Writer * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 01155F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 Red Hat SELinux Guide http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/selinux-guide/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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On 9/15/05, Colin Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Fedora-derivatives: Rahul will post to list over the weekend, andTejas has found a bunch of dead distros. Rahul is going to downloadeverything he can get his hands on. c.f. Blag on LiveCd list for starters Not just that, the plot thickens. Distro Watch groups RedHat based Distros and Fedora Based Distros together. This leads to two things: 1) Someone should contact distro watch, and tell them to stop grouping it together 2) Many of the Distros there are RedHat based, and are not related to Fedora at all. And the websites of some distros do not mention if they are based on RH or FC, such as : http://www.asianux.com/ Do I include such Distros in the compilation? -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Meeting minutes - 16/09/2005
Present: Patrick Barnes (nman64) Rahul Sundaram (mether) Karsten Wade (quaid) Jon Fautley ([sasquatch]) Colin Charles (byte) Greg DeKoenigsberg (gregdek) Marc (StrikeForce) Tejas Dinkar (tejas) Bob Jensen Notes: * Mentors - There's a mailing list, art project with Diana is there, but the rest aren't responding. Rahul has responded. Note that there is NO duplication of information by creating new guides - its just revising existing materials. Marc to resend out more information bits about the list to developers, and there have been a small number of newbies that have signed up. Wiki page needs updating, people need to get on lists. * FUDCon Promotion - numbers (registrants) 50 at the moment (pending Alex), there has been publicity, sent to the list. Look at list archives for this - lwn, lxer, linuxtoday, newsforge. 2 staff volunteers also * SOP - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/SpreadingNews has been integrated. It needs to be built on further, with possibly other inspiration as well. Rahul is done with it (thanks for the great job), others now need to contribute * CMC - list is setup, its private, there are people on it. Keep in mind focusing on our strengths and promoting that. This week is week of promotion * Logo - First round at: http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/. Infinite freedom isn't decided as the slogan, but the general consensus is that the logo is loved. Concentrate on logo feedback today. Color can be fixed later (like Legacy or something) Is the 'f' too subtle? Do we need a name? * Fedora-derivatives: Rahul will post to list over the weekend, and Tejas has found a bunch of dead distros. Rahul is going to download everything he can get his hands on. c.f. Blag on LiveCd list for starters * Fedora Marketing Kit - saved for next week. Rahul did: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraOverview, with the idea to expand it to a list. It clearly needs more content, to link of to other pages. Patrick has been trying a new redesign, at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PatrickBarnes/Prototypes/FrontPage and the idea is to move the wiki to the frontpage eventually. Patrick will work with the designers for this (incl. Bob Jensen) * Legacy pages have been cleaned up at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legacy by Rahul, after talking to Jesse and folk on #fedora-devel. Rahul probably volunteering to own the content, infrastructure to fedoralegacy * Do we want a wiki as the main/front page? -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Meeting minutes - 16/09/2005
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 02:01 +1000, Colin Charles wrote: * Logo - First round at: http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/. Infinite freedom isn't decided as the slogan, but the general consensus is that the logo is loved. Concentrate on logo feedback today. Color can be fixed later (like Legacy or something) Is the 'f' too subtle? Do we need a name? I think the f is far too subtle. The shirt design in particular will confuse people. It needs to come with the name wherever possible. ~spot -- Tom spot Callaway: Red Hat Senior Sales Engineer || GPG ID: 93054260 Fedora Extras Steering Committee Member (RPM Standards and Practices) Aurora Linux Project Leader: http://auroralinux.org Lemurs, llamas, and sparcs, oh my! -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 13:22 -0300, Steven Garrity wrote: Colin Charles wrote: * Logo - First round at: http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/. Infinite freedom isn't decided as the slogan, but the general consensus is that the logo is loved. Concentrate on logo feedback today. Color can be fixed later (like Legacy or something) Is the 'f' too subtle? Do we need a name? This logo work is really well done. We should thank Matt Munoz and go with it! +1 ! And IMHO the shirt (and everything else) should say Fedora somewhere and in large print. The symbol is OK but the Fedora name needs to come with it basically everywhere since its new and people just won't understand the symbol by itself. Ed -- Edward H. Hill III, PhD office: MIT Dept. of EAPS; Rm 54-1424; 77 Massachusetts Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 emails: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] URLs:http://web.mit.edu/eh3/http://eh3.com/ phone: 617-253-0098 fax: 617-253-4464 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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Perhaps at first we need to show both the wordmark and the symbol together, but down the road, I think the symbol can stand on its own two feet. Similar to the way the Shadowman symbol is used (without the Red Hat wordmark).Matt .. Matthew Muñoz | Capstrat | 919-882-1975 On Sep 15, 2005, at 12:39 PM, Ed Hill wrote:On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 13:22 -0300, Steven Garrity wrote: Colin Charles wrote: * Logo - First round at: http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/.Infinite freedom isn't decided as the slogan, but the general consensusis that the logo is loved. Concentrate on logo feedback today. Color canbe fixed later (like Legacy or something)Is the 'f' too subtle? Do we need a name? This logo work is really well done. We should thank Matt Munoz and go with it! +1 !And IMHO the shirt (and everything else) should say "Fedora" somewhereand in large print. The symbol is OK but the "Fedora" name needs tocome with it basically everywhere since its new and people just won'tunderstand the symbol by itself.Ed-- Edward H. Hill III, PhDoffice: MIT Dept. of EAPS; Rm 54-1424; 77 Massachusetts Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139-4307emails: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]URLs: http://web.mit.edu/eh3/ http://eh3.com/phone: 617-253-0098fax: 617-253-4464--Fedora-marketing-list mailing listFedora-marketing-list@redhat.comhttp://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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On 9/15/05, Tom 'spot' Callaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the f is far too subtle. The shirt design in particular will confuse people. It needs to come with the name wherever possible. Would outlining the f make it pop out for you more? Or are we talking about playing with the color palette so there is more contrast? Yes, using the logo with the name everywhere you can will be key.. in the near term is going to be vital. Until you actually get immense quantifiable brand recognition the logo can't be used by itself.. it needs to be used to add punch to the name. Let's face it..we aren't Nike. You can get away with using just the logo on the corner of the desktop menu... but on any PR tools, the name needs to be used with the logo. -jefTo whom do i send the KK dougnuts in appreciation?spaleta -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 02:01 +1000, Colin Charles wrote: * Logo - First round at: http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/. Infinite freedom isn't decided as the slogan, but the general consensus is that the logo is loved. Concentrate on logo feedback today. Color can be fixed later (like Legacy or something) Is the 'f' too subtle? Do we need a name? Somebody suggested I should comment on the list, so here goes ;) On the whole, I like the infinite freedom concept, and I like the f-infinity teardrop logo. It also makes a great icon. I don't like the 'f' in the wordmark; it seems that it should be more similar to the logo. I also don't like the 'a'; it doesn't really resemble the logo (as the intent is noted to be), and the wide circular style makes the wordmark feel asymetric. But that's just nit-picking. The real feedback I have is regarding the logo placement with respect to the text. There's a big field of heavy, dark color in the logo, and placing it caddy-corner to the right the text creates a lot of negative space around it. The combination of the two draws the eye away from the text very, very strongly. This is obviously why the subproject logos all have the text on the right side rather than the left, but it's still very, very strongly weighted to the top and right. Also, it kindof looks like a cartoon thought-balloon with that placement. -- Peter -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 13:59 -0400, Peter Jones wrote: On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 02:01 +1000, Colin Charles wrote: * Logo - First round at: http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/. Infinite freedom isn't decided as the slogan, but the general consensus is that the logo is loved. Concentrate on logo feedback today. Color can be fixed later (like Legacy or something) Is the 'f' too subtle? Do we need a name? Somebody suggested I should comment on the list, so here goes ;) On the whole, I like the infinite freedom concept, and I like the f-infinity teardrop logo. It also makes a great icon. I like the icon, but I'm not convinced that the icon or the concept quite fit. I associate Fedora more with innovation, forethought, design and care, rather than vastness (in the amount of software, or flexibility), or specifically with freedom. There is already a Universal Operating System (with a nice swirl logo and a well-known emphasis on Freedom), and ultimate flexibility would perhaps be a Gentoo motto. Again, the icon is good, but it doesn't really say Fedora to me at all... -- Stuart Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fedora Documentation Project: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/docs/ GPG key ID: 7098ABEA GPG key fingerprint: 68B0 E291 FB19 C845 E60E 9569 292E E365 7098 ABEA signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 02:01 +1000, Colin Charles wrote: * Logo - First round at: http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/. Infinite freedom isn't decided as the slogan, but the general consensus is that the logo is loved. Concentrate on logo feedback today. Color can be fixed later (like Legacy or something) Yeah, I'd like the Legacy color to match the green we use at http://www.fedoralegacy.org -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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On 9/15/05, Matt Munoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I do have one http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/fedoraLogo_10b.jpg I also worked it into the presentation. Sorry I missed the original link.. I will say the contrast in the greyscale makes the f stand out more than the current colorized version with the light blue secondary color. The color you have for the legacy variation mockups seems to provide the best contrast among the different colors in http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/fedoraLogo_14.jpg to me. Unfortunately legacy is also the only variation that has an established history with regard to color so if you keep that color you'll need to use it for another subproject. Can you spin up a logo using the shade of green from fedoralegacy.org colorscheme? -jefbut since i dont exactly have a color calibrated monitor, take this with a truck load of saltspaleta -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
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Steven Garrity wrote: Colin Charles wrote: * Logo - First round at: http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/. Infinite freedom isn't decided as the slogan, but the general consensus is that the logo is loved. Concentrate on logo feedback today. Color can be fixed later (like Legacy or something) Is the 'f' too subtle? Do we need a name? This logo work is really well done. We should thank Matt Munoz and go with it! +1 for that idea. Although I do agree that combining the logo and the words are brilliant. :) Damn good work. Regards, Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Meeting minutes - 16/09/2005
* Logo - First round at: http://www.capstrat.com/development/fedora/. Infinite freedom isn't decided as the slogan, but the general consensus is that the logo is loved. Concentrate on logo feedback today. Color can be fixed later (like Legacy or something) This is so good, it made me go all squooshy inside. That may have been the spicy chicken talking, but the logo is still good. --jeremy -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
