[Bug 181404] Review Request: emacs-muse

2006-04-26 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Review Request: emacs-muse


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2006-04-26 04:32 EST ---
(In reply to comment #44)
 Ouch. Though I haven't seen any xemacs-beta package for Debian yet

Sorry for being unclear, by xemacs-beta I meant the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailing list.

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[Bug 181404] Review Request: emacs-muse

2006-04-25 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Review Request: emacs-muse


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2006-04-25 08:26 EST ---
Also emacsen-common is going to re-byte-compile apel if flim is updated or
installed, in above case, though.

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[Bug 181404] Review Request: emacs-muse

2006-04-25 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Review Request: emacs-muse


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2006-04-25 17:02 EST ---
I have moved the namespace discussion to the FE list. However, I don't feel I
understand the build in %post proposal well enough to properly convey it to the
list - Akira, if you have the time and energy, I think it's worth bringing that
up on FE list as well.

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[Bug 181404] Review Request: emacs-muse

2006-04-25 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Review Request: emacs-muse


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2006-04-25 21:38 EST ---
(In reply to comment #40)
 Less than for various Emacsen?  I fail to see why.

Well, in the release cycle POV. newer release of emacs isn't seen a long time. I
suppose there may be strong request to use the latest emacs but may wants to
keep the stable version together. but yes, there may be more or less such
requirements on others as well.

 Yes, but that kind of defeats the idea of getting stuff byte compiled for
 whatever Emacsen are installed on that particular box.
 
 On a side note, there have been lots of reports over time on xemacs-beta about
 Debian's setup being broken and resulting in for example XEmacs somehow 
 getting
 *.elc bytecompiled by GNU Emacs in its load path.  That will obviously wreak
 havoc.  OTOH my gut feeling is that the reports are less frequent nowadays so
 it's possible that the Debian folks have got it fixed.

Ouch. Though I haven't seen any xemacs-beta package for Debian yet - at least in
the official tree - it may be because it just doesn't follow the 
emacsen-common-way.

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[Bug 181404] Review Request: emacs-muse

2006-04-25 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Review Request: emacs-muse


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2006-04-25 21:45 EST ---
(In reply to comment #41)
 My feeling is that, while what Akira is suggesting has merit, what it's
 ultimately an attempt to do is to bend rpm to deal with installation from 
 source
 (.el) rather than binary.. it's not so dissimilar to gentoos ebuilds etc.  It
 really seems like trying to get rpm to do things it wasn't designed to do. I'm
 in favour of keeping things simple, working with binary packages, and not 
 aiming
 for the canonical solution. 

it's sensible. discussing something without the real implementation is little
messy. so I'll try to do it when I have a time, and let's continue to discuss
against it then.  Sorry to interrupt your package contribution.


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