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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-11 07:49 EST ---
> So, I prefer to stay with CJK in the title. At the same time, with more people
> start using our font, I also hope more Japanese and Korean people to get
> involved in the glyph optimization. Our wiki is open to all people and the
> submitted glyph will be automatically compiled into nightly-build fonts.

Ok.  Well the "CJK" wording is a smaller detail, I just thought it might be
safer to call it a Chinese font with support for Japanese and Korean.

I lived in Japan for 12 years until last year and have yet to see
a unified CJK font - there are usually considerable differences between
Chinese Hanzi and Japanese Kanji glyphs but perhaps I will be pleasantly
surprised.  In the long term if it were really possible to make a unified font
it would make CJK support much easier. :)


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-10 18:34 EST ---
the link for the spec file:
http://wenq.org/release/08src/wqy-bitmap-fonts.spec

or
http://wenq.org/eindex.cgi?id=wqy-bitmap-fonts.spec&raw=1&action=browse
(you need to remove  and )

I will increase the release number next time.

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-10 18:29 EST ---
hi Jens

Chinese/Japanese/Korean share a large number of ideographic glyphs (called
Hanzi/Kanji/Hanja). There Hanzi were organized as CJK Unified Ideographics
(U+4E00-9FA5), CJK Unified Ideographics Extension A and Extension B by Unicode
Consortium and endorsed by all governments.  The WenQuanYi bitmap font 0.8
include all CJK Unified Ideographics glyphs (20902 x 4 sizes), with much
improved glyph shape compared to any existing open CJK font. Beside these
unified CJK characters, we also provide Hangul(thousands) and
Hiragana/Katakana(less than 100) glyphs in this font. Although we are not expert
in these JK-specific glyphs, but they look as good as those I have seen in the
commercial fonts, IMHO.

So, I prefer to stay with CJK in the title. At the same time, with more people
start using our font, I also hope more Japanese and Korean people to get
involved in the glyph optimization. Our wiki is open to all people and the
submitted glyph will be automatically compiled into nightly-build fonts.

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-10 02:55 EST ---
I have not tried yet, but is the font better suited to Chinese than
Japanese and Korean?  Perhaps it would be better to replace "CJK"
with "Chinese"?


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-09 22:51 EST ---
(In reply to comment #31)
> http://wenq.org/eindex.cgi?wqy-bitmap-fonts.spec

It would be nice if this just displayed the .spec text file.
Do you have an url for that?

> http://wenq.org/release/08src/wqy-bitmap-fonts-0.8.0-1.src.rpm

Please bump the release number when you make a new package to help the review.

> this time I used rpmlint and removed all error/warning messages :)

Good.

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-09 22:43 EST ---
(In reply to comment #30)
> thank you for your sponsorship. My account is FangQ, I added cvsextras group, 
> and I may need you to approve my subscription.

Yes, I see your request.  Let me activate it when this review is complete. :)

> Does the Plague system only work for FC?

I have only used it on Fedora.  I would expect it to work with EL4 too,
but I don't know if packages for it are available anymore (ie fc3 packages).

> when I run "plague-client list_builders", it showed some error msgs, I am
> not sure if this is because I am not an approved user or the system problem.

It works for me right now, so it may be because you're not a full contributor
yet.  What error do you see?  BTW soon the Fedora buildsys will change to
use koji in place of plague.

> For the font, the provided fontconfig file allows the synergy of this bitmap 
> font with other existing vector fonts at specific font sizes, which is a 
> highly
> desired feature and make web page display very pleasing. I prefer to keep this
> feature by adding the fontconfig dependence (the X-Core font system still use
> this font in the old way).

Ok, I think I was mistaken - you are right to keep it.


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-07 21:04 EST ---
the spec and srpm files are updated.

changes of the spec file are listed here:
http://wenq.org/eindex.cgi?action=history&id=wqy-bitmap-fonts.spec

download url:
http://wenq.org/eindex.cgi?wqy-bitmap-fonts.spec
http://wenq.org/release/08src/wqy-bitmap-fonts-0.8.0-1.src.rpm

this time I used rpmlint and removed all error/warning messages :)

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-07 20:19 EST ---
hi Jens

thank you for your sponsorship. I am following the instructions on the "Join"
page, and got to the point "Install the Build-System Client Tools". My account
is FangQ, I added cvsextras group, and I may need you to approve my 
subscription.

by the way, I have three computers running different linux distros (FC6,
CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu6.10). Does the Plaque system only work for FC? or can be
any system running Python? I set up the .plague-client.cfg file and when I run
"plague-client list_builders", it showed some error msgs, I am not sure if this
is because I am not an approved user or the system problem.

For the font, the provided fontconfig file allows the synergy of this bitmap 
font with other existing vector fonts at specific font sizes, which is a highly
desired feature and make web page display very pleasing. I prefer to keep this
feature by adding the fontconfig dependence (the X-Core font system still use
this font in the old way).

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-03 23:44 EST ---
Also since this is a bitmap font there is no need to use fontconfig AFAIK.

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-03 23:43 EST ---
The rpmlint output on srpm gives:
W: wqy-bitmap-fonts mixed-use-of-spaces-and-tabs (spaces: line 1, tab: line 65)

and on the rpm:

W: wqy-bitmap-fonts non-conffile-in-etc /etc/fonts/conf.d/85-wqy-bitmapsong.conf
E: wqy-bitmap-fonts no-prereq-on chkfontpath
E: wqy-bitmap-fonts no-prereq-on chkfontpath

You need to use "Requires(post):" and "Requires(postun):" for the latter two.
See also .

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-03 23:30 EST ---
(In reply to comment #25)
> a second read of the package naming rules reminds me that the upstream tarball
> name wqy-bitmapfont is recommended name for the package, Jens, do you suggest 
> me
>  rolling back the package name as well?

That is true, but font packages may be an exception since they are usually
named with "-fonts" in Fedora and also more than one font file is included. :)
So I think wqy-bitmap-fonts is ok.  Using the "-fonts" suffix makes font
packages easier to find.

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-03 19:39 EST ---
Ok, thanks for the updated package.

I can sponsor you.  If you have not already done so, please read
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join
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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-02 22:44 EST ---
a second read of the package naming rules reminds me that the upstream tarball
name wqy-bitmapfont is recommended name for the package, Jens, do you suggest me
 rolling back the package name as well?

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-02 22:39 EST ---
thanks Jens

after reading the links you posted, I think 0.8.0-1 is the appropriate
version-release tag for this package.

the new spec and srpm files can be viewed and downloaded here

http://wenq.org/eindex.cgi?wqy-bitmap-fonts.spec
http://wenq.org/release/08src/wqy-bitmap-fonts-0.8.0-1.src.rpm

the changes of the spec file(
http://wenq.org/eindex.cgi?action=browse&diff=1&id=wqy-bitmap-fonts.spec&revision=6&diffrevision=5)
include
1. used 1 as release number
2. updated release tags in %changelog
3. removed the changelog items for 0.7.0 and ealier, combined changelog items
for 0.7.9 (as upstream beta) and 0.8.0 as the new 0.8.0-1 tag

how do these changes look to you? 

by the way, I put my email address in the assignee just for fulfill my
curiosities when I played around. now I will restore it to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] until any of you take the package.


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-02 19:24 EST ---
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-packaging/2007-March/msg00128.html

Basically the conclusion was that it should go into the version field
as Tasaka-san suggested.  So either "0.8.0_6" or "0.8.0.6".  It would
really be better though if the "upstream release number" could go away
since it just causes problems for packagers.

(In reply to comment #21)
> oh, yes, if the release number start from 1, then, the version-release number
> in %changelog will not match the package's number. 

They have to match. :)

> perhaps the way you suggested is better.

Well, I would put it more strongly, you cannot use the "upstream release number"
directly in the Fedora release field.  It could be embedded there if you do
not wish to include it in the version field.

See also .


Qianqian, as the submitter you cannot assign a Package Review to yourself.
Tasaka-san, do you want to take it?  Otherwise I can do it.

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-04-02 13:30 EST ---
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> Well, while I suppose many packages use my way,
> I posted to Fedora packaging committee anyway.

heard of anything back from them?

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-29 14:48 EST ---
oh, yes, if the release number start from 1, then, the version-release number in
%changelog will not match the package's number. perhaps the way you suggested is
better.

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-29 10:58 EST ---
Well, while I suppose many packages use my way,
I posted to Fedora packaging committee anyway.

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-29 10:04 EST ---
hi Mamoru

maybe it is ok, because if we bind the release number to upstream, then the
flexibility of making small changes for Fedora will be limited by the version
synchronization, plus that they are under different names ("wqy-bitmapfont" vs
"wqy-bitmap-fonts").

while, if this is a policy, then I will roll back the release number and update
the files, please let me know.

Qianqian

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-29 02:47 EST ---
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> > the only problem now, is that the release number is different from the 
> > upstream
> > release number
> 
> Should be fine, though I am not sure what you mean by "upstream release 
> number"?
> 

Ah. I found what this means. The upstream tarball is named as
"wqy-bitmapfont-pcf-0.8.0-6.tar.gz". 
In this case, The version of fedora package should be "0.8.0.6"
(this also happens on ImageMagick rpm) (although I hope
upstream won't release 0.8.0.1-1.tar.gz .. )


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-29 01:29 EST ---
sorry, the link was wrong, should be

http://wenq.org/release/08src/wqy-bitmap-fonts-0.8.0-1.src.rpm

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-29 00:57 EST ---
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> http://wenq.org/release/08src/wqy-bitmapfont-0.8.0-1.src.rpm

The package is still seems to be named "wqy-bitmapfont"?

> the only problem now, is that the release number is different from the 
> upstream
> release number

Should be fine, though I am not sure what you mean by "upstream release number"?


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-29 00:14 EST ---
ok, now I think it is getting closer :)

I uploaded the spec file to
http://wenq.org/eindex.cgi?wqy-bitmap-fonts.spec

the differences from the previous version are listed here:
http://wenq.org/eindex.cgi?action=history&id=wqy-bitmap-fonts.spec

the new SRPM file was uploaded to
http://wenq.org/release/08src/wqy-bitmapfont-0.8.0-1.src.rpm

the following problems were fixed:
1. the new package has release number starting from 1, and will increase
everytime I revise it
2. the package owns the folder /usr/share/fonts/wenquanyi
3. add %ghost for fonts.dir

I built and tested this rpm on FC6, everything looks as I expected.

the only problem now, is that the release number is different from the upstream
release number, which I think is ok, thinking that this is a separate package.

please let me know if anything else I need to pay attention, thanks.

Qianqian


PS: I just created an account on Wiki, user name is FangQ.

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-03-27 03:59 EST ---
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> but the link Ingvar pointed out requires an account to view

Did you try making a wiki account?

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