Feedback gathered for fedoraproject.org and get.fedoraproject.org

2009-07-08 Thread Mark
Hey,

It was suggested that i gather feedback on the 2 sites to see what
users experience when they want to download fedora.
Here is the feedback. (file is here incase the format is off:
http://fedora.mageprojects.com/fedora_feedback_anonymized.txt)
And i have anonymized all the feedback because some people asked that
before i started to ask questions.
The feedback below was gathered in a few irc rooms mostly #fedora and
#web. hiemanshu helped me gathering some of the feedback below.
Personal real world feedback is asked from 6 persons but not given
since fedora would't even run on there stock notebooks!

Feedback fedoraproject.org and get-fedora

User 1
 - fedora main site
 -- no issues, it's fine

 - get.fp.o
 -- KDE download is a bit hidden
 -- x64 is hidden. users suggestion: perhaps 2 download buttons:
'download x64' and 'download x32'
 -- user said: also add buttons for the dvd versions of tose 2 architectures
 -- Make the gnome-kde choosable like on the mandriva download page
 -- Ajax popup with download details (distribution, desktop
environment, installation guide etc...)

 After showing the mandriva download style he said he only missed the
architecture option

User 2
 - fedora main site
 -- Misses a big download fedora button, something that attracts the attention

 - get.fp.o
 -- Misses a big download fedora button, something that attracts the attention
 -- Spins, where do i need them for? remove it!

User 3
 - fedora main site
 -- 'looks oke'

 - get.fp.o
 -- More infor on spins rather then just one link
 -- keep it simple
 -- When asked for an x64 download link: I don't think it should be
there, as many people would download it, and it wouldn't work on their
non x86_64 machines.

User 4
 - fedora main site
 -- I've been able to find everything I need on the websites.

 - get.fp.o
 -- I've been able to find everything I need on the websites.
 -- no issues, it was pretty obvious it's the second big button
 -- Trying to download x64 well, it seems harder because I went to
the list of mirrors instead of just instantly getting the download
link
 --also, when I got to the mirror list I had to click on a mirror and
browse to where the iso files are for F11
 --we're talking 8-9 clicks at least instead of 1x
 --for the 3rd or 4th most common download it would be nice if it
were shorter, but not a big deal to me
 --I'd like it if their was a link directly to the file you wanted on
the mirror (if that is possible or even makes sense)
 --but it would be possible for it to start me off in say
/release/11/Fedora/x86_64
 --yeah, that would make sense for it to do that after I click on the
filter for F11 x86_64
 --yep, that seems like it would be better instead of starting at the base

User 5
 - fedora main site
 -- seems OK, everything looks like its working, by preference I like
a bit more of a banner on sites, but thats personal
 -- posibly more of a note that its based on the comercial Red Hat distro

 - get.fp.o
 -- seems fine to me

User 6
 - fedora main site
 -- if I'm new to linux and need help, do I click docs, wiki, get help, or what?
 -- too much unused white space

 - get.fp.o
 -- seems too cluttered
 -- leads me to wonder wtf I click on
 -- and it lacks consistancy
 -- if you have several options, display them in a consistent manner
 --that page has a couple different options in the middle, other
options in a different style on the right (well, i think they are
different) and then other, alternat eoptions at the bottom
 --could it not list all the options in one consistant list,
explaining what each is, with the different download options?

User 7
 - fedora main site
 -- None

 - get.fp.o
 -- i guess download button could be bigger, but i noticed it immediately

User 8
 - fedora main site
 -- should have a big download button
 -- Well, i think user who wants to install something *NIX'y is pretty
advanced to find a download link on the website

 - get.fp.o
 -- None

User 9
 - fedora main site
 -- and it should probably have a better link text
 -- I mean, imagine reading it; Get Fedora 11 Desktop Edition Now
INSTALLABLE LIVE CD!

 - get.fp.o
 -- only thing is the download now link might not be obvious as a link

 - Other
 -- one last thing; the layout breaks on a small viewport (4-500px wide)
 -- should have some minimal width limiter
 -- http://w-wins.com/images/brokenlayout.png

Mixed from: UxerX and UserY (and others)
-- the front-page of fedoraproject.org is a bit non-descript
-- anonymous, if you will
-- since this is mostly about getting people to use it, I'd go for a
more in your face approach, have a direct download button on the
front page, larger logo, more THIS IS FEDORA :)
-- when the writing goes one word per line, things are bad
-- no prominent logos, nothing
-- i would have something similar to how firefox has theirs, short and
sweet with a bit of kapow
-- if i didn't know what fedora is i wouldn't immediately know what it was
-- ONE sentence explaining that This is the Linux 

Re: /images/favicon.ico

2009-07-08 Thread Till Maas
On Wed July 8 2009, Mike McGrath wrote:
 Can someone create a /images/favicon.ico or figure out what is trying to
 request it?  We get a lot of 404's there.

One creating a 404 is linked here:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/

There are also some other images creating 404s there:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/images/16_build_sta...@%7bstate%7d.png
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/images/16_hover_bubble.png
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/images/16_karma-
@%7Bkarma_level%7D.png

Regards
Till


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I'm a new contributer [Mohammed Safwat]

2009-07-08 Thread Mohammed Safwat
Dear all ,

I'm a new contributer in your volunteer community , and it's my proud of
course .
My name is Mohammed Safwat , from Egypt , student at the faculty of
Engineering , Mansoura University  , Electronics and Communication
department.

I have an about page , if you are interested to know more bout me :
http://www.mohammedsafwat.wordpress.com/about

I just need your advices for me , and directions to achieve the best
collaboration with you.

Thanks in advance!
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Broken links for EPEL

2009-07-08 Thread Bryan Mason
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It would appear that the links to the various EPEL repositories are
broken in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL.

The i386, x86_64, ppc, and sources links in the following section all
return 404 errors.

#  Available Packages:

* EPEL 5: i386 , x86_64 , ppc , sources
* EPEL 4: i386 , x86_64 , ppc , sources


The link to URLs are of the form:

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/release/arch/repoview/

It looks like the repoview/ part is incorrect.  I cn access the
repositories with a URL like the following:

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/release/arch

Please let me know if I can provide further information.

~ Bryan

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Re: Download Now! button does not work on Get Fedora page

2009-07-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 08:19 PM, Dennis Decker Jensen wrote:
 Hello webmaster.
 
 On http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora the Download Now! button
 does not work correctly. I thought it was a temporary issue, since I
 tried this first on the Fedora 11 release date, but the issue remains.
 
 I use Mac OS X and Safari to download the iso image.
 
 When I push the button I get redirected to
 
 http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Live/i686/Fedora-11-i686-Live.iso

Did anyone test this with Safari?

Rahul

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