Re: Fedora 11 : Download Link Not Working
On 2009-07-09 05:12:31 PM, Saurabh Sharma wrote: Clicking i386 - Install DVD on http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-all gives us 403,please resolve asap Hi, sorry for the extra email - can you tell us if it is still happening for you right now? If so, what IP are you requesting that from? Thanks, Ricky pgpxCUFjNeclX.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Websites Meeting - 2009-07-10 at 17:00 UTC
Hey, this is a reminder for the weekly meeting in #fedora-websites on Freenode, as usually, See you all there! Thanks, Ricky pgpND4JQdFlH1.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Websites Meeting - 2009-07-10 at 17:00 UTC
I cannot be there as the net here is down from the past two days. But i would like you people to talk about the user gallery with mizmo. Regards, Hiemanshu Sharma On 10/07/2009, Ricky Zhou ri...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hey, this is a reminder for the weekly meeting in #fedora-websites on Freenode, as usually, See you all there! Thanks, Ricky -- Regards, Hiemanshu Sharma. -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Checksum validation instructions for Windows
Hi. There are instructions for ISO checksum validation on Windows available at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/readme-burning-isos/en_US/sn-validating-files.html Maybe it would be a good idea to add link to Microsoft's own SHA1/MD5 calculator (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=B3C93558-31B7-47E2-A663-7365C1686C08). I've recently met a bit paranoid guy who complained on an Internet forum that he can't verify Fedora ISO checksum on his Windows system because your site doesn't provide any Windows utility for that and instead it only points to some 3rd party tools, which he doesn't trust. Regards, MP -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Websites Meeting - 2009-07-10 at 17:00 UTC
On 2009-07-10 02:36:36 PM, Hiemanshu Sharma wrote: I cannot be there as the net here is down from the past two days. But i would like you people to talk about the user gallery with mizmo. Sure thing, do you have any particular questions we should bring up? Thanks, Ricky pgpmT7dhuwsNg.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Websites Meeting - 2009-07-10 at 17:00 UTC
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 10:34 -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: Hey, this is a reminder for the weekly meeting in #fedora-websites on Freenode, as usually, See you all there! I can't make it this week because of a business meeting. :( I have been working on a mockup/redesign for get-fedora based on user feedback but it's not quite complete yet. ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Checksum validation instructions for Windows
Hi Michał, Michał Pecio wrote: There are instructions for ISO checksum validation on Windows available at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/readme-burning-isos/en_US/sn-validating-files.html Maybe it would be a good idea to add link to Microsoft's own SHA1/MD5 calculator (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=B3C93558-31B7-47E2-A663-7365C1686C08). I've recently met a bit paranoid guy who complained on an Internet forum that he can't verify Fedora ISO checksum on his Windows system because your site doesn't provide any Windows utility for that and instead it only points to some 3rd party tools, which he doesn't trust. From a quick look, it doesn't appear that the MS tool can verify SHA-256 checksums, which is what Fedora 11 and newer use (the burning ISOs document needs to be updated, the documentation team is aware of and working on that). It's rather unfortunate that there is such a lack of quality tools for performing checksum verification available on the Windows platform. I can understand someone being averse to trusting a third party verification tool, but at the same time, if that person is running Windows they most certainly have much more to worry about. :) If you know of a reasonably trusted tool that can verify SHA-256 checksums on Windows, we'd be very interested to hear about it. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Reason obeys itself; and ignorance does whatever is dictated to it. -- Thomas Paine pgpS5M9Mrb17g.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Meeting Log - 2009-07-10
/me still needs to learn to use meetbot - sorry about missing that this week :-) 17:00 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-websites to: Fedora Websites Meeting - Who's here? 17:00 * markg85 is here 17:00 * ricky had a feeling this was going to be a quick one :-) 17:00 hiran hiran is here. 17:02 ricky hiran: Hey, are you new around the websites team? 17:02 hiran ricky : ya 17:02 markg85 hiran, welcome ^_^ 17:02 ricky Cool, welcome 17:02 hiran Thanks All 17:03 ricky OK, I guess let's get started 17:03 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-websites to: Fedora Websites Meeting - Tasks 17:03 ricky OK, so any updates on tasks for this week? 17:03 markg85 o yea 17:04 ricky Go ahead :-) 17:05 markg85 Well it was requested that feedback on fedoraproject.org and get.fp.o was gathered by me, hiemanshu and mizmo and i did it :) 17:05 markg85 quite a lot of feedback actually 17:06 markg85 so a link to it: 17:06 * markg85 looks for it 17:06 markg85 http://fedora.mageprojects.com/fedora_feedback_anonymized.txt 17:07 ricky Cool - hopefully that'll be useful for the work mizmo was looking at with get-fedora 17:07 ricky She couldn't make this meeting, so we'll probably get updated on that next meeting or via the mailing list 17:08 markg85 mizmo and i where looking at get-fedora and hiemanshu and i where looking at the main fedora page (or am i wrong now?) 17:08 ricky That sounds right 17:08 ricky OK - so quick update on the blogs.fp.o work that nb|away has been working on 17:09 ricky I think that's currently waiting on FAS auth and that's it 17:09 ricky There's at least a partial auth plugin that exists now, but it still has a lot of bugs to be worked out 17:10 * ianweller is here 17:10 markg85 it's quite hard for me to get any further on those 2 sites now 17:10 ricky Busy with life? :-) 17:10 markg85 i guess we need to discuss what's in the feedback but the persons required for that are not here 17:10 ricky ianweller: Hey 17:11 ricky markg85: Yeah, these past two weeks have been really busy for a lot of people 17:11 markg85 ianweller, hi 17:11 ricky Feel free to ping on the mailing though 17:11 ricky I only have one update on my tasks, from just a few minutes ago :-) 17:11 markg85 ricky, i would have expected a reply from them in the list where i posted the feedback. no reply yet 17:11 ricky I've made the first contact to the docs team about some of the thoughs we had on how docs.fp.o could be improved: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2009-July/msg00057.html 17:12 ricky Hopefully that'll be received positively 17:13 ricky So any other updates on tasks right now? 17:13 markg85 nope 17:14 ricky All right then 17:14 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-websites to: Fedora Websites Meeting - Open Floor 17:14 ricky Does anybody have anything they want to discuss? 17:14 ricky I know it's kind ofa small meeting here today 17:14 ricky **of a 17:14 ricky For those reading the logs: 17:14 ricky If this time has started not working for you, we can certainly look at changing times too 17:15 ricky So please reply on list if that applies to you 17:15 markg85 only that i would like 'feedback' on the feedback i gathered ^_^ 17:15 ricky markg85: What I'd do is post a couple of questions about the feedback in response to your original post 17:15 ricky That should get you some responses 17:15 markg85 will give that i try 17:15 markg85 a* 17:15 ricky Thanks 17:16 ricky OK, so if there's nothing else, I'll close the meeting a few minutes 17:16 ricky hiran: Did you send a self-intro to list, by the way? 17:16 hiran ricky: no 17:17 ricky Ah, that'd be good to do when you get a chance so that people know you're here :-) 17:17 hiran but i have applied to the website team. 17:18 ricky There are a lot of changes being talked about with websites now - it's just hard to get everybody together at the same time :-/ 17:18 markg85 ricky, perhaps send a mail to the list today or tomorrow for the meeting next week? 17:19 ricky markg85: Sure, or maybe we can wait a day or two first to see if anybody responds to this week's logs and wants to look at changing the meeting itme 17:19 ricky **time 17:19 ricky But I'll definitely send it earlier for next week 17:19 markg85 oke good 17:20 ricky Anyway, sorry this one went a bit short. Our meetings seem to always be either 10-15 minutes or 1.5 hours long, depending on how many people are here :-) 17:20 ricky Anyway, 17:20 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-websites to: Fedora Websites Meeting - Meeting Close 17:20 * ricky sends logs pgp4DhKVc4wTP.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Feedback gathered for fedoraproject.org and get.fedoraproject.org
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Markmark...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, It was suggested that i gather feedback on the 2 sites to see what users experience when they want to download fedora. Here is the feedback. (file is here incase the format is off: http://fedora.mageprojects.com/fedora_feedback_anonymized.txt) And i have anonymized all the feedback because some people asked that before i started to ask questions. The feedback below was gathered in a few irc rooms mostly #fedora and #web. hiemanshu helped me gathering some of the feedback below. Personal real world feedback is asked from 6 persons but not given since fedora would't even run on there stock notebooks! Feedback fedoraproject.org and get-fedora User 1 - fedora main site -- no issues, it's fine - get.fp.o -- KDE download is a bit hidden -- x64 is hidden. users suggestion: perhaps 2 download buttons: 'download x64' and 'download x32' -- user said: also add buttons for the dvd versions of tose 2 architectures -- Make the gnome-kde choosable like on the mandriva download page -- Ajax popup with download details (distribution, desktop environment, installation guide etc...) After showing the mandriva download style he said he only missed the architecture option User 2 - fedora main site -- Misses a big download fedora button, something that attracts the attention - get.fp.o -- Misses a big download fedora button, something that attracts the attention -- Spins, where do i need them for? remove it! User 3 - fedora main site -- 'looks oke' - get.fp.o -- More infor on spins rather then just one link -- keep it simple -- When asked for an x64 download link: I don't think it should be there, as many people would download it, and it wouldn't work on their non x86_64 machines. User 4 - fedora main site -- I've been able to find everything I need on the websites. - get.fp.o -- I've been able to find everything I need on the websites. -- no issues, it was pretty obvious it's the second big button -- Trying to download x64 well, it seems harder because I went to the list of mirrors instead of just instantly getting the download link --also, when I got to the mirror list I had to click on a mirror and browse to where the iso files are for F11 --we're talking 8-9 clicks at least instead of 1x --for the 3rd or 4th most common download it would be nice if it were shorter, but not a big deal to me --I'd like it if their was a link directly to the file you wanted on the mirror (if that is possible or even makes sense) --but it would be possible for it to start me off in say /release/11/Fedora/x86_64 --yeah, that would make sense for it to do that after I click on the filter for F11 x86_64 --yep, that seems like it would be better instead of starting at the base User 5 - fedora main site -- seems OK, everything looks like its working, by preference I like a bit more of a banner on sites, but thats personal -- posibly more of a note that its based on the comercial Red Hat distro - get.fp.o -- seems fine to me User 6 - fedora main site -- if I'm new to linux and need help, do I click docs, wiki, get help, or what? -- too much unused white space - get.fp.o -- seems too cluttered -- leads me to wonder wtf I click on -- and it lacks consistancy -- if you have several options, display them in a consistent manner --that page has a couple different options in the middle, other options in a different style on the right (well, i think they are different) and then other, alternat eoptions at the bottom --could it not list all the options in one consistant list, explaining what each is, with the different download options? User 7 - fedora main site -- None - get.fp.o -- i guess download button could be bigger, but i noticed it immediately User 8 - fedora main site -- should have a big download button -- Well, i think user who wants to install something *NIX'y is pretty advanced to find a download link on the website - get.fp.o -- None User 9 - fedora main site -- and it should probably have a better link text -- I mean, imagine reading it; Get Fedora 11 Desktop Edition Now INSTALLABLE LIVE CD! - get.fp.o -- only thing is the download now link might not be obvious as a link - Other -- one last thing; the layout breaks on a small viewport (4-500px wide) -- should have some minimal width limiter -- http://w-wins.com/images/brokenlayout.png Mixed from: UxerX and UserY (and others) -- the front-page of fedoraproject.org is a bit non-descript -- anonymous, if you will -- since this is mostly about getting people to use it, I'd go for a more in your face approach, have a direct download button on the front page, larger logo, more THIS IS FEDORA :) -- when the writing goes one word per line, things are bad -- no prominent logos, nothing -- i would have something similar to how firefox
