17:00 ricky #startmeeting Fedora Websites
17:00 onekopaka k
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17:00 ricky #topic Who's here?
17:00 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-websites to: Who's here? (Meeting
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17:00 * nb
17:00 * stickster
17:00 * onekopaka
17:00 * ricky
17:00 -!- mizmo [n=du...@nat/redhat/x-xjvducmcqyezityp] has quit Sláinte
Mhath!
17:00 * hiemanshu is here
17:00 ricky ianweller_away, mchua, any-interested-advisory-board-people: ping
17:01 hiemanshu onekopaka: nb ?
17:01 onekopaka ricky: ianweller_away sent mail to the list saying he's gone.
17:01 ricky onekopaka: Oh, which list
17:01 onekopaka ricky: mizmo is also not here (hence her quiting the irc
room)
17:01 onekopaka ricky: f-w-l
17:01 * hiemanshu dint get any
17:02 ricky All right then.
17:02 ricky #topic get-fedora redesign
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17:02 ricky #link
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-July/msg00088.html
- stickster's email about that
17:02 * hiemanshu doesnt like what mizmo did to the mockup
17:02 onekopaka #link
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Projects/fedoraproject.org/get.fpo/mock1.png
17:03 ricky So mizmo posted a unfinished mockup today - I think we should
hold back the comments until it's actually done, since it could still be
changing a lot as she works on it
17:03 hiemanshu onekopaka: that mockup in my idea is _BAD_
17:03 hiemanshu ricky: where are the other options? x86_64
17:03 stickster Critiques of in-progress works can be helpful
17:03 hiemanshu mainly thats what we spoke of
17:03 stickster hiemanshu: Can you be a bit more specific please?
17:03 onekopaka hiemanshu: I know, I figured that you would say that.
17:04 ricky stickster: Well, I'm saying this based on what mizmo said last
meeting about not wanting to post her unfinished mockup
17:04 stickster ricky: OK, understandable
17:04 hiemanshu stickster: the main reason we wanted a new look because we
wanted people to be able to find pages easy
17:04 stickster I think the thing to remember about this design is that it's
going to be in accordance with the requirements that are being developed on FAB
17:04 ricky So did everybody see the stickster's email?
17:05 stickster Board meeting notes from yesterday are also good reading
17:05 * onekopaka looks at taht now.
17:05 hiemanshu ricky: not really, will read it after the meeting
17:05 onekopaka that*
17:05 stickster
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_meeting_2009-07-30
17:05 ricky Basically, there was some disagreement about the target audience
requirements for the page in the past, which led to the page being messy with
our attempts to please everybody
17:05 onekopaka links = pain when using irssi
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17:06 ricky So the board has made the call of exactly who this page will be
targetted at, so that there will be no question about those requirements
17:06 stickster There's a thread on FAB about this now, as a matter of fact.
17:06 hiemanshu ricky: is there a meeting log?
17:06 ricky Of course, how that gets implemented and for example, how the
page targetted at people that know what they want is presented is still up to us
17:07 ricky hiemanshu: It wasn't an IRC meeting, so there's no log, but
there are minutes posted on fedora-advisory-board
17:07 onekopaka ricky: a phone meeting?
17:07 ricky #link
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-July/msg00090.html
board meeting minutes
17:07 hiemanshu ricky: hmmm, i wanted to read it out so i can have a proper
idea what people really think
17:08 ricky hiemanshu: The summary of what a lot of people think is that the
original design of the get-fedora page got derailed by trying to please
everybody
17:08 * hiemanshu agrees
17:08 onekopaka especially with KDE.
17:08 stickster ricky: And in addition, we don't have a good enough
presentation for the many custom spins that are done every cycle.
17:08 ricky For example the random inconsistent buttons on the left side
that links to different arches/desktop environments
17:09 ricky Ah, yes - one big part that I left out is a redesign of
spins.fedoraproject.org
17:09 hiemanshu ricky: a cleaner look like what other Distros have (Gentoo
Debian) would be better
17:09 stickster The Board wants two redesigns to happen. One will be a clear
route to a single default spin that is the landing place for people who are new
to Fedora or Linux in general.
17:09 stickster The second is a better showcase for all spins
