Spin Banner Artwork for spins.fpo
Hi folks, I came up with a set of banners for each of the spins to be displayed on spins.fpo. In context, the banner would be placed underneath a blue Fedora bar, like so: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/a/af/Spin-details-fel-home.png Here's all the banners: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Website_redesign_2009/Mockups/Spins.fpo#Banners I hope you like them! Let me know if you're okay with the design I came up with for your spin or if you have any ideas on improving these. I'm going to make a post on planet.fpo too so we can get broader feedback, but I'm particularly concerned about the spins owners being happy with the artwork they've got. Please feel free to speak up. I uploaded the source for the banners too in case you wanted to tweak on your own! Thanks, ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
spins.fpo revamp content update
Hi folks, I promised I'd sent the Fedora websites list the spins content the maintainers so graciously put together on short notice for our spin.fpo redesign. Here's the content they put together - they made it very easy to link to :) : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Website_redesign_2009/Mockups/Spins.fpo#Spins_Content Also as a status update, I think we are set on the design for Electronic Lab and LXDE. I still need to go through the mockup process with remaining spins' content and make sure the spin maintainers are okay with what I come up with. I'm hoping to have that done by this Friday but we'll see. I sent out a message to the fedora-desktop list too to see if they want a page for their spin and if so what content they might be able to provide. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to give them a spins.fpo page or not yet but hopefully some good discussion about that will happen on that lit. ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
F12 Beta Banner for www.fpo
Hi folks! Here's the F12 Beta release banner from Nicu: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_Artwork#Beta_Release_Banner ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: get.fedoraproject.org redesign mockups
Hi Chitlesh, On 10/08/2009 04:29 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: I have one comment about the header. The header is too HUGE. (about 30% of the page) See Red Box in this screenshot http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/spinwebsite.png This prevents me from adding the Fedora Electronic Lab logo on the page since together it will take about 50% of the page. I would prefer to use those page to demonstrate why the spin is great. http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/images/fedoraelectroniclab-logo.png Can you compress the contents of red box into the yellow box ? Also is it possible to replace the gradient blue stuffs into something similar to the footer ? The redbox is supposed to be space for your logo. See: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Spin-details-generic.png ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
get.fedoraproject.org redesign mockups
Hi folks, I just finished up the final mockups for get.fedoraproject.org. These were originally due last Friday, so I apologize for the delay [1]. Here's what we've got: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Website_redesign_2009/Mockups/Get.fpo For reference the spins mockups from a little over a week ago are here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Website_redesign_2009/Mockups/Spins.fpo These should be fairly familiar to a lot of folks since we went over the pencil sketches for these in a board meeting not long ago and those sketches have been available for a while [2]. Let me know what you think! ~m [1] I was really sick last week and ended up taking a sick day on Friday. [2] e.g., http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/getfedora_desktop-tab.png -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Zikula theme status
Here's an update on where we're at now. Thanks to itbegins and affix for helping me out today! Here's the stuff still needing to be resolved: • Author names - I can't figure out how to get real human names :( not sure how. Also my method of linking to the author's profile is rather hacky. • Feature story - I'd like to have one story displayed in full blinginess on the front page, it seems the news module has a way to do this but I can't figure out how to make it work (how do you assign 'today's feature' to an article?) • EZComments packaging - we need someone to package this ASAP. Any takers? Here's the stuff that was resolved: On 09/10/2009 09:42 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: • Images - This is my biggest concern right now. If you want to post an image in an article, you can't. It won't let you. It just spits out the img tag in plain text. :( Simon fixed this :) It had been disabled because of security reasons but since only admins can edit articles it's probably okay. • Comments - I don't know how to get comments forms to appear beneath articles. From searching the Zikula forums, I found out thatEZcomments is a plugin that does it, but we don't seem to have it installed and I'm not sure if it's okay to install. We need to have EZComments packaged - it not being installed is the reason the comments tags aren't working for me. • RSS - I don't know how to do this. We need one feed for all articles and ideally at some point in the future a podcast and vodcast feed. affix wrote a custom RSS feed but Simon pointed out Zikula has this pre-built in, it was just broken (bc of a config setting I tweaked, sorrys :( ) and it works now. • Links for sidebar articles - can't get them, variable is a mystery. When I use the usual variables all the sidebar article links (e.g., individual event details links) come up blank or point to the main article being displayed. Simon figured this one out. :) ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Fedoracommunity.org index page
On 09/08/2009 04:50 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Máirín Duffy wrote: Why not use: sitemap.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/sitemap domains.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/domains all.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/all directory.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/directory fedoracommunity.org is a way for non-official sites (IE ones that Fedora Infrastruture doesn't run) to have a domain name and such. So de.fedoracommunity.org might exist. Or even edu.fedoracommunity.org or something. The other fedora community you know about :) ugh what a crappy dilemma. is there any possibility of changing this new domain? eg maybe 'fedorafriends.org' or something like that? ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Fedoracommunity.org index page
On 09/09/2009 04:49 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 09/09/2009 01:42 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: On 09/08/2009 04:50 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Máirín Duffy wrote: Why not use: sitemap.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/sitemap domains.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/domains all.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/all directory.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/directory fedoracommunity.org is a way for non-official sites (IE ones that Fedora Infrastruture doesn't run) to have a domain name and such. So de.fedoracommunity.org might exist. Or even edu.fedoracommunity.org or something. The other fedora community you know about :) ugh what a crappy dilemma. is there any possibility of changing this new domain? eg maybe 'fedorafriends.org' or something like that? If we're going to rename we probably want to change admin.fp.o/community 's name. Less coordination with outside people to make it happen, less retraining of people who aren't developers, etc. does fedoracommunity.org exist?? when i go there i get a blank page. my assumption is this is an idea currently being floated around and not in effect yet... in which case it would really be a lot more trouble to change all the branding and materials we have for community the app... ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Fedoracommunity.org index page
On 09/08/2009 03:08 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: #1) One way we could solve this would be to simply include the page listing at the Fedora Community portal site somewhere, as static content. Ugh. #2) Renaming fedoracommunity.org is very ugly because people have been accumulating subdomains there for months. Plus, the domain name was blessed by Legal last year (when we were still talking about MyFedora) because the domain name helps make it clear that we don't own the site, and aren't responsible for content. Okay I missed this part. So it seems the only choice is to rename Fedora Community. I have no idea what it could be renamed to. Right now it's focused on package maintainers but we're hoping to expand it out more... How did this happen? ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Fedoracommunity.org index page
On 09/08/2009 07:08 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: Hi Websites team, We need an index page for the Fedoracommunity.org domain that lists the various community sites available through subdomains, as well as authoritative other sites that are local to our many communities around the world. Is having a site named Fedora Community that isn't Fedora Community (admin.fedoraproject.org/community) going to cause confusion? ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Fedoracommunity.org index page
On 09/08/2009 03:08 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: We need an index page for the Fedoracommunity.org domain that lists the various community sites available through subdomains, as well as authoritative other sites that are local to our many communities around the world. Wow, this is a thorny problem -- I wish the naming collision had occurred to me sooner. :-( Help me understand the need here - is this simply to serve as a Fedora project wide sitemap? Why not use: sitemap.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/sitemap domains.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/domains all.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/all directory.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/directory etc etc etc ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Websites Meeting Reminder
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 23:19 -0700, Darren VanBuren wrote: I'm reminding all of y'all that there's a Websites Meeting in about 10 hours (17:00 GMT). It'll be in #fedora-websites, and if ricky is going to be at the FESco meeting, I'm going to try to be the chair, so don't be rowdy. ;) Hey, I'm likely going to be unable to make the meeting, but there seemed to be a lot of interest in the get.fpo mockup in-progress so here's what I have so far, it's not anywhere near finished though. http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Projects/fedoraproject.org/get.fpo/mock1.png ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Websites Meeting - 2009-07-10 at 17:00 UTC
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 10:34 -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: Hey, this is a reminder for the weekly meeting in #fedora-websites on Freenode, as usually, See you all there! I can't make it this week because of a business meeting. :( I have been working on a mockup/redesign for get-fedora based on user feedback but it's not quite complete yet. ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: [mockup patch] A get-fedora page which makes it easier to select the DE, arch and download method
Hi Stewart, On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 17:11 -0400, Stewart Adam wrote: Hi, In light of the recent discussions about increasing the visibility of the x86_64 and KDE media downloads, I've created a mockup page that I think would help solve both problems. It's similar to the current pages, but I've added a Customize section which allows users to select between KDE/Gnome, i586/x86_64/PPC, and the preferred download method in a few clicks (although seeing I haven't coded any of the Javascript to make the URL changes work properly). As an added bonus, it also places the BitTorrent download option upfront which should help reduce mirror load. One of the disadvantages to adding a customize section is that it decreases the user-friendliness of our download page slightly, however I think if we offer sane defaults and place the customize section below the Download Now links we can avoid most of this (new users can still click download now and start right away, while experienced users can read on and select their preferred DE/arch/download method). Any ideas, comments, concerns or feedback are welcome. Thanks for the patch, but I feel quite strongly that this is not the right approach. We've discussed this at length in the past few websites meetings and had agreed that such an approach for the default page is not a good idea because it's too intimidating for beginner users. This might be a good option for the advanced page, however, I've found a lot of technical folks complain when they're given a widget+widget+widget = one link kind of page, they'd prefer a field of links so they can copy link urls in one click page load. ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner
Hi Paolo! Thanks for your work! There is one problem though, I can't view any of these files. When I try to visit the URLs I get redirected to: http://im.altervista.org/void.gif Could you please upload these to the wiki? Thanks, ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Some more fedora.css changes
Hi Toshio, Thanks for doing this. I'll pull your changes into Fedora Community's css as well (eventually we will be pulling from the same files) and I'll update the Fedora Community html accordingly! ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Release Calendar(GCal)
Actually, Zimbra is not just the desktop client, it's the server too. And it was bought by Yahoo but built by a smaller company at first. Looking like they are friendly to open source doesn't mean Google is open source. Yahoo! is very friendly to open source and actually uses open source where Google does not. ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Release Calendar(GCal)
Hi Kamisamanou, I was wondering if you would consider Yahoo's calendar. Google's is not open source, but Yahoo's new calendar uses Zimbra which is open source. http://switch.calendar.yahoo.com/m/landing.php ~m From: Kamisamanou Burgess kamisama...@kamisamanou.net To: fedora-websites-list@redhat.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:34:36 PM Subject: Release Calendar(GCal) I am wondering if there is a Google Calendar available for the Fedora Releases. If there is not, I would like to volunteer to start and maintain one. If I do, I would update it daily with the dates from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/latest release +1/Schedule from the wiki. Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Additions to fedora.css
Hey Toshio! - Original Message From: Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com To: For maintainers and developers of all formal Fedora websites. fedora-websites-list@redhat.com Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 2:59:35 PM Subject: Additions to fedora.css I'd like to make this change to fedora.css. This adds some CSS that is generally useful for Fedora Web Apps. None of them were defined already in fedora.css. individual web apps are probably already overriding these with their own css but over time we can remove those from the individual apps and rely on the fedora.css more. These changes look good! * Note: The three icons for the flash messages info.png, success.png, and important.png aren't very good. A real graphic designer could probably do a lot better :-) :) I can try to get you some better ones, but don't wait on it. I have it on my to-do queue. ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: sha1sums on get-fedora
Ricky Zhou wrote: On 2008-12-03 03:46:07 PM, ben wrote: can we get the sha1sums for the f10 release on like the get-fedora page. This would help alot of new people downloading Fedora to be able to find the sha1sums quickly. Ben interacts with a ton of users in #fedora every day, and mentioned that many people wanted to see link to verification info - what do you think? Can we go ahead and add a link in the resources box? Oh the little box with the links to the user guides too? That seems like a really good place for it. ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: preparing websites content for Fedora 10
Máirín Duffy wrote: Patrick C. F. Ernzer wrote: Hello, On 2008-10-01 18:06, Craig Thomas wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Max Spevack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] (3) (MOST IMPORTANT) The get-fedora page, with all of the updates and suggestions that have been discussed since the F9 release [...] and our draft implementation: http://craigt.fedorapeople.org/get-fedora/get-fedora The solution we had in the mockup (that this doesn't seem to be following) was to just offer 32-bit live desktop by default and other arches are hidden under a 'more options' link. Most consumer machines, especially now that Apple has gone with intel chips, can run x86. If you have no idea of your machine's architecture (and I am betting most folks who want to try Fedora for the first time do not) x86 is a very safe bet. If you do know what your machine's arch is, and it's not x86, you are more than capable to click one more link to get x86_64 or ppc. This page is just too busy, IMHO. There is too much text, and it asks too many questions. What our plan had been before when we discussed this, was to offer the Fedora live desktop spin x86 with one click. fwiw here's my money where my mouth is: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/get-fedora/ ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: preparing websites content for Fedora 10
Max Spevack wrote: Hi all, One of the important topics that came out of our sparsely attended Websites meeting last night was that the freeze for all websites content related F10 is 3 weeks prior to the release. Therefore, we should make it our goal to have everything finished and approved on our November 3 meeting. Things that need to be done: (1) Text on the front page of fedoraproject.org (2) Artwork for different places on our website. The art team's got the following on our list: - small beta banner (Ian finished this yesterday) - small final release banner - small countdown banner - fullsize final release banner (600x200 for front page) ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
planet fedora rss template?
Hey, I have a strange request. I was wondering if I could have a copy of the planet Fedora RSS template? (in my planet install it is at /var/planet/template/rss20.xml.tmpl) I have a planet that I run and the rss feed doesn't display properly in firefox or thunderbird, but planet Fedora's does so I was thinking of trying out the Fedora template in my planet install to see if that fixes the problem. Thanks so much, ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
[Fwd: Re: My Fedora mockups]
foo i fail at email! ---BeginMessage--- Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 14:30 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: main fedora css (from www.fpo) = application chrome css = my fedora css I'm going to show my design ignorance, but what is 'application chrome'? I'm reckoning it is either a term specific to a tool (such as Moz/XUL), or it's a way of saying, The shiny stuff specific to this application that may not be used somewhere else. um the latter is close! It's the stuff in the UI that is *not* specific to My Fedora. The tabs on the left, the tabs in the center, etc. The stuff that makes it different from www.fpo, but not the stuff that makes it My Fedora vs any other infrastructure app. Does that make sense? ~m ---End Message--- -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: websites meeting, aug 25th
Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 18:03 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Ian Weller wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:58:29PM -0400, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy_ wrote: I could actually make it every week if it was at that time. What do others think? Yes. 21:00 UTC is go for me :) Sigh, well now I feel horrible. 21:00 doesn't work for me either cuz I have a standing 4:30-5:30 that I forgot about. Sorry if I'm not calculating right, but would it work for you to do your meeting then dip in for the last 1/2 of the Websites meeting? Nope it usually goes 4:30 straight to 6 ET. (where 4 = 20 UTC and 6 = 22 UTC) Another option that isn't often used is to actually run a meeting from N:30 to N+1:30. I'm comfie with that, especially if we use our own irc channel so's not to impact on da rhythm of #fedora-meeting. The only time in the 20-22 block that works for me on mondays is 20, no halfsies unfortunately :( ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: websites meeting, aug 25th
Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 18:46 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: I was wondering if there is anyway we could standardize the meeting time? I wonder if staggering it has lead to more people who would actually attend not being able to attend (due to confusion over what time it is this week or other obligations). I would love to standardize the meeting time, but the last few times I brought this up, it was voted down due to too many timezone differences. Maybe we can split the difference and just have it at 21:00 UTC every week, instead of alternating between 20:00 and 22:00? IIRC, that would knock out both groups of people who were served by the split time. I recall transit between locations being a primary situation. Are you sure? I know I am sitting on a bus at 22:00 UTC but I wasn't aware of anyone else who had transit issues? This is a perennial problem, with each group beating on it every time they want to set a meeting. I'm wondering what else we can try or offer in the pool if ideas? Are the folks driving the 22:00 UTC time showing up? Can they tolerate 21:00 instead? Can any of these folks reading the thread right now help us figure this out? * Introduce voice so that people who are in transit without Internet can call in and participate. This wouldn't work for me as I sit on a bus with many other people :( ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: websites meeting, aug 25th
Ian Weller wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:58:29PM -0400, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy_ wrote: I could actually make it every week if it was at that time. What do others think? Yes. 21:00 UTC is go for me :) Sigh, well now I feel horrible. 21:00 doesn't work for me either cuz I have a standing 4:30-5:30 that I forgot about. I'll deal! ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: meeting minutes from last night
Hi Mark, Mark wrote: Task name: Common look and feel I believe i'm partly the one that works on that since i'm trying to get the amber mockups in a real website state and it's going quite fine at the moment. The outer frame (not amber specific) should be the default of all of fedora's sites or that's how i understood it. Shame i saw this meeting message one day to late.. To see the current progress on my effort look here: http://browsershots.org/http://amber.mageprojects.com/ it currently works quite well under even old browsers! Just the next step: animated menu proves to be a pain in the ass. I've actually been working on a generic Fedora applications layout based on the earlier mockups I'd posted; the html/CSS I have so far is here: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/My%20Fedora/html/ It inherits from the existing fedoraproject.org css which i think is important... ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: meeting minutes from last night
Asgeir Frimannsson wrote: I was more thinking of this from a development point-of-view. The tabs do eat space that could be better used for the main functionality of the application. I'm thinking of this in terms of the L10N infrastructure specifically, where we do need as much horizontal space as possible for the main application (e.g. translation statistics, transifex submission, online translation)... I would limit the overall 'theme' to a smaller and less intrusive 'frame' of the application, e.g. how Google separates its' services (horizontal 20px bar on top). I do really like the overall theme of the page though :) Seriously? Out of a 1024 pixel wide screen, that sidebar takes up less than 200 px. That gives the main content area 80% of the horizontal width of the screen which seems a quite reasonable ratio to me. You do need SOME whitespace on the screen. Cramming information into every last bit of space is not as efficient as it might seem at first glance, especially in a complicated application interface where you risk overwhelming the user with data. You wouldn't worry more about having 8 tabs horizontally across the top, their German translations making the last two or three tabs scroll horizotnally or jump down the next row? I don't think i18n is really a good justification for your stance here. ~m -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
