Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral
An old boyfriend of mine rigged up something like this to catch a feral at his office and it worked. A carrier and string. He said it was like 'fishing'. Except he wasn't a fisherman. Jenn sounds like quite the engineer! :) t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah, well, that one would require a human to operate. The way I would do it, would be to run a string from thehole punchedin the top of the main front sliding door (it slides down in a track), over something overhead (like a smooth tree branch, or rig up an eye screw over the area if it's on a porch), then you'd have to watch until the cat you wanted was inside, and manually drop the string to close the door. You can run any amount of string, to get farther away if you need to, and you don't have to be anywhere near the door to shut it this way. The side door would be closed, of course. I've done this before, not with this particular cage (I made one similar home made out of wood), but with a similar rigging. On this pre-made version, you may need to add a bit of weight to the string just over the dooror glue something heavy to the front of the door to make it "slam" quickly, my door was heavy, not sure about this one's weight. The cats seem to be "wise" about the traditional metal wire traps, and avoid them after a while, but if you have the time, and patience, sometimes something like this works better, plus it is more weather proof, and has a solid top, so it would make a better feeding station than a normal trap or wire-top carrier, because it would protect the food from the weather. The tomahawk company means this to be more of a cage or carrier than a trap, but it could be rigged as a trap as well, especially if you used it as a feeding station for a while first, to get them accustomed to going into it and not being trapped for a while first. Jenn ~~~ Thanks for that Jenn---I'd never heard of Tomahawk I've a question about the "trap" part of the first cage on the list--the "innovative trap/carrier/recovery cage." I'm assuming the white circle is a door--thedoorthe cat is supposed to use so it can be trapped? To actually trap the catonceit's inside requiresthe trapperto get near enough to the carrier to close the round door, right? Going by past experience my cats would be able to jump into reverse gear and scoot outa there way before I was able to close the door. Obviously that can't be the case since these traps must be successful, so I'm wondering what I'm missing?! Kerry No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005
Re: Re AKIRA need prayers...
Lisa, I logged on hoping to see some news about Akira. What's happening with her? Nina
Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe
Barbara, this is great news about Tom, I hope you can check on him occasionally and hear how he is doing. The instructions below were for the old list, here is where to go to unsubscribe: http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Instructions are way down at the bottom of the page, good luck and thanks for caring enough to find Tom a home!! --- If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send the following command in email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unsubscribe Or you can send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe felvtalk or from another account, besides [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unsubscribe felvtalk [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. No info available for felvtalk -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger
Yes bailey also tested positive for bartonella and was on antibiotics (zithromiacyn I think is the preferred one if they are positive for bartonella), accupunture, different chinese herbs none of these things completely resolved his mouth issues, only pulling his teeth completely cleared it up. In all fairness he was on different antibiotics and other things for over 6 months steadily losing weight, it did help some, his lymph nodes went down but not completely, that's why we finally decided to pull his teeth it was the last resort so to speak, thank God it worked. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger
Thank you! I put it on my list to ask the internist tomorrow! Michelle In a message dated 5/8/05 3:19:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm behind, and I hope this message finds Ginger feeling better. I wanted to mention something about Ginger's mouth. I wrote a while back about 2 of my negatives who were having mouth problems. They had dentals, and within a month their breath was just awful again. When I took them to the vet they had infected gums. The vet said she wanted to test them for bartonella (not hemobartonella). They tested positive and she put them on 21 days of azithromycin. Now their gums have healed up and are not inflamed or infected I can absolutely not even smell their breath at all! The doctor said that they are finding more and more that chronic mouth problems are helped by this. The test took about a week. I don't know where they had to send it. From what I understand it's kind of like hemobart in that the antibiotic doesn't completely rid their bodies of the bartonella, but decreases the amount present. She mentioned other infections that have reacted well to this, but I really didn't pay attention as we were not dealing with anything else. Just an idea.
Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger
I just remembered something else Gypsy would eat when she would only take liquids. I mixed up some KMR and mixed in some salmon oil. She'd lap that up when she wouldn't eat anything else. Nina
[Fwd: [FelineIBD] Warning: Lilies dangerous to cats!]
Remember how I was just saying there's nothing poisonous in my back yard? Surprise! This was just posted on my IBD list, thought I'd pass it on. Nina ---BeginMessage--- This was in the newspaper a couple of days ago. (U.K) Thought I better send it out! Cat owners warned over killer flowers By David Sapsted (Filed: 06/05/2005) A national alert has been issued to pet owners after pollen from a bunch of supermarket flowers killed a cat. When John Hartnett bought his wife oriental stargazer lilies, he was unaware that he was passing a death sentence on the family's 13-year- old Siamese, Catalina. The cat brushed against the flowers then licked the pollen from its fur. Within minutes she started being sick and, within hours, had died after going blind, suffering renal failure and becoming virtually paralysed. The RSPCA, which is reporting an increase in such cases, is to launch a campaign to alert people to the dangers and lobby for warnings on the flowers. The RSPCA said: The problem of lilies isn't widely known and we are seeing an increase in the number of cases we come across. This is because the flowers are becoming more readily available in Britain. All lilies are poisonous to cats, with just one leaf eaten possibly leading to death. We will now be urging both manufacturers and producers to issue warnings on their goods so that consumers have an informed choice. We also hope to work with the Royal College for Veterinary Surgeons' poison department to produce information fact sheets and figures on this awful matter. Mr Hartnett, 51, a computer engineer from Folkestone, Kent, said: Catalina was a curious, fastidious animal and would have investigated the new flowers. But this proved absolutely fatal. She endured a vile death. She was suffering terribly. I blame myself but the vet we rushed her to said there was just no chance to save her. We have seen the flowers in many places, all with no warnings at all. In America, I have discovered that there is immense coverage on this subject warning people of the dangers but, here, there is nothing. I can't believe something so simple as a flower can kill pets in such a terrible, terrible way, and there is absolutely no way of knowing about it. The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals singles out the Easter lily (Lilium longiflorum), tiger lily (Lilium tigrinum), rubrum lily (Lilium speciosum), Japanese show lily (Lilium lancifolium) and some species of the day lily (Hemerocallis) as liable to cause kidney failure in cats. The Feline Advisory Bureau, a charity based in Tisbury, Wilts, said: Symptoms of poisoning from these plants include protracted vomiting, anorexia and depression and ingestion can cause severe, possibly fatal, kidney damage. Cats can survive if taken to a vet within six hours but the chances of survival decrease rapidly after that. After 18 hours, the kidneys stop working. Alex Campbell, a toxicologist and managing director of the Poison Advisory Service for vets, said: When we recieve a call about cats coming into contact with any of the lilium flower family we treat it very seriously indeed. It is one of the worst reactions an animal can come across and it needs highly aggressive management. All parts of a lily are extremely toxic. A cat that comes into contact with a lily deteriorates very rapidly. I have even heard of a cat being given human dialysis in an attempt to overcome the effects of toxins in the kidneys. The danger to cats only began to emerge in 1990 when the first incident was reported in America. Last year, the poison control centre at the ASPCA handled 275 cases. John Cushnie, a panellist on Gardeners' Question Time, advised gardeners who wanted to avoid harm to cats to select tall lilies and stake those that need support. Amanda Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FelineIBD/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---End Message---
Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral
Thanks Sally, I do keep the carriers out for them to sleep in etc And when I come home from work I take off my shoes and go through the 'regular routine' so they hopefully won't guess I've got to scoop one up, put my shoes back on, turn the tv back off, etc.. But they usually seem to figure out it's all a sham! I'll try thinking about something else! tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Tonya:Cats are MUCH more adept at picking up our thoughts and energy than we are...they don't have to study and relearn telepathic communication as we do. They are able to receive our thoughts and are sponges for our emotions, especially of the negative sort. So, if you are going to take them to the vet, don't think about that or get stressed anticipating the difficulties you will have because they will pick up on that, for sure. Try instead to think only peaceful and comforting thoughts and bathe them mentally with positive energy (or other happy diversions...Nina said thinking about birds instead of fixing her meds worked with her Gypsy) and and try to visualize them surrounded by a calming and cooperative aura. They are so keen on picking up on our signals, it is not easy, to be sure. The carrier is always one clue unless you routinely use them as beds or put them into one at feeding time. Putting on shoes, picking up car keys and looking for them with a purpose or different tone of voice can all give you away. Dogs may be more trainable, but cats are head and shoulders above them in the IQ department.Sally in San Jose
