Re: Diet change, George, and Bramble at the vets
Michelle, be careful with hydrocortisone in cats, if they lick it off, they can get rapidly low blood sugars, I think I recall hearing. Good luck with all the meat and eggs... While I do eat the stuff, I still get queasy if I get my fingers in a raw egg, so I can only guess how bad it must be for a vegan! can you get Nutri-Cal over there? It's a high calorie gel gook supplement. You can mail order it I think, from here if you need too. It really helped put the weight on Bones quickly. I use the store brand (Vita-Cal) from this website: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=3177&Ntt=vita%2Dcal&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&N=0&Nty=1 Here's the original: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=587&Ntt=nutri%2Dcal&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&N=0&Nty=1 And here's the "new" cat version (have not tried it yet): http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=3378&Ntt=nutri%2Dcal&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&N=0&Nty=1 Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005
Re: picture of Bones (OT)
I'm so glad she is healing so well in your home. Yep, she has won you over! :) In a message dated 6/18/2005 9:28:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I don't really know anything about her at this point. The vet said she looks young adult, under 3 anyways. She acts like she was a housecat at some point, she's very spoiled, and has to be on the couch or bed. She is actually very tiny compared to my other cats, she only weighs 6 pounds (while my other cats range from 12 to 14 pounds), but she is built very lanky, so she gives the impression of the cat that goes on and on when she stretches out like that. I have more pics, but have not uploaded them all yet. She is already playing with the other cats, she intergraded really easily into the household. I'm constantly having to tell her she can't do things, and my house now has ramps to everything because she was not going to stay in the cage where she was supposed to stay for a month of bedrest, she was CLIMBING the cage wire and hanging from the top and screaming! I figured, which is worse, her hanging from her front legs and constantly digging like mad at the cage, or allowing her to rest on the bed or couch? So, in a nutshell, she won, I lost. But she really does seem fine, and the lack of cage rest doesn't seem to be causing any problems, so far. I'll tell you one thing, it's been a 100% turn around from day one, she's like a whole new cat already. You'd never know she has a broken back. Jennhttp://ucat.us/http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Jenn, As you know I'm going to say something when it is Siamese relatedLOL She is a pretty Snowshoe. She looks long and lanky. How old is she? Thanks for the photo of her! Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.iGive.com/TAZZYShttps://www.paypal.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescueClick Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/joinhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/Southern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cs.siameserescue.org/Northern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cn.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/
Re: picture of Bones (OT)
Well, I don't really know anything about her at this point. The vet said she looks young adult, under 3 anyways. She acts like she was a housecat at some point, she's very spoiled, and has to be on the couch or bed. She is actually very tiny compared to my other cats, she only weighs 6 pounds (while my other cats range from 12 to 14 pounds), but she is built very lanky, so she gives the impression of the cat that goes on and on when she stretches out like that. I have more pics, but have not uploaded them all yet. She is already playing with the other cats, she intergraded really easily into the household. I'm constantly having to tell her she can't do things, and my house now has ramps to everything because she was not going to stay in the cage where she was supposed to stay for a month of bedrest, she was CLIMBING the cage wire and hanging from the top and screaming! I figured, which is worse, her hanging from her front legs and constantly digging like mad at the cage, or allowing her to rest on the bed or couch? So, in a nutshell, she won, I lost. But she really does seem fine, and the lack of cage rest doesn't seem to be causing any problems, so far. I'll tell you one thing, it's been a 100% turn around from day one, she's like a whole new cat already. You'd never know she has a broken back. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Jenn, As you know I'm going to say something when it is Siamese relatedLOL She is a pretty Snowshoe. She looks long and lanky. How old is she? Thanks for the photo of her! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005
Re: picture of Bones (OT)
Jenn, As you know I'm going to say something when it is Siamese relatedLOL She is a pretty Snowshoe. She looks long and lanky. How old is she? Thanks for the photo of her! Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.iGive.com/TAZZYShttps://www.paypal.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescueClick Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/joinhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/Southern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cs.siameserescue.org/Northern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cn.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/
picture of Bones (OT)
Hi everyone, I finally got a pic of Bones for you all. Thanks to everyone for their support. She is doing GREAT! Sorry for the OT post, but I knew everyone would want to see her: http://ucat.us/Bones.jpg Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005
Re: Misha
there are even diapers for kitties, too, if the problem is chronic--there are a lot of cats around who are full of life and love, just can't control their bowels, who bop around in diapers quite happily, i'm told! -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Misha
Have you tried adding Prozyme to a premium non-grain canned food, it may help. I use Wellness but there are others. Also, one of my guys was quite poopy until he began IVD (fm vet) Venison and Green Pea kibble. In a few days, he firmed up and for the past three months no diarrhea. Confining kitty to one room and spreading sheets/towels on the floor helps cleaning up. A large dog crate or tall kitty wire kitty condo will confine and you can give Misha periodic "recesses" into the room. I had three kittens with a few months of constant dripping; later an adult cat with the constant oozies for two months. Been there with the clean up. Good luck. Del - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Misha For Misha's family,I don't know what your vet is talking about. FelV is not "attacking" her intestines. The problem with FeLV is that it weakens their immune systems and they have a tough time fighting off any other ailments, like colds etc. They are more prone to cancers too unfortunately, and the "drippy butt" symptom could be a sign of intestinal lymphoma. How long has Misha had diarrhea? From the little you told us about her symptoms it sounds like some sort of IBD (intestinal bowel disease) problem. You need more help from your vet. He needs to be treating whatever problems Misha has in the same way he would any other cat, (except quicker, with no 'wait and see' type attitude). IBD, (we don't know if this is Misha's problem), is usually treated with diet change. Some cats need to be taken off all dry food, sometimes they can't tolerate grains, sometimes vegetables, sometimes both. The people on the IBD list I belong to, (my Gypsy has a nasty case of IBD), advocate a raw diet (the group is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FelineIBD/ ) This was the only thing that helped my cat, but you can try getting her off dry food and on one of the better canned foods first. Stick with one type of protein, (chicken, duck etc.), to help her system adjust. There are also many homeopathic remedies that can help cats with diarrhea too, go to http://www.abchomeopathy.com/ and click on "remedy finder" to search for help with diarrhea. Vets usually prescribe steroids, (way too soon, imo), you want to try and eliminate whatever her system is reacting to first before you reach for the heavy artillery. When anyone has diarrhea, their body is essentially trying to 'get rid' of whatever is upsetting their systems by expelling it as fast as they can. It's like an allergy, you have to figure out what to give Misha to eat that her body won't react to. Go check out http://www.catnutrition.org/ for some ideas.If your concern is the unhealthfulness of liquid diarrhea all over your house, I completely understand. You can confine Misha to a single room, (make it as comfortable as possible and visit her often, she's not going to understand why she's being locked away), until you get the 'leaking butt' under control. If you are worried about Felv effecting you or your baby, your fears are unfounded. FeLV can not be transmitted to humans. If your concern is Toxoplasmosis, you are more than likely not in danger either, (please see recent archives addressing this concern). If you have had Misha with your other cats for six years, you do not have to be concerned about separating them. They either have Felv already, or they're not going to get it.Good luck, I wish you and your family the best,NinaPaul Jr wrote: Hey out there I need some sugeestions/feedback about Misha and what we should do with her. Misha is six years old and tested pos for FeLV. We have had her for almost 6 1/2 years. She is in good health and none of the other cats (all share the same wate dish) have FeLV. Misha's FeLV shows up, according to her vet by attacking her intestines. She has chronic bouts of what we call drippy butt. She leaves little presents aorund the house. She has been on various medications and recently the vet suggested Kaopectate or Pepto Bismo, which made her problem worse.(gave her pain and lots of diahreha) I have read aobut medications to treat FeLV, none of which cure it just maybe ease the symptoms. Does anyone else have a cat with this type of FeLv and if so what do you do? Also give me some feedback. We live in Gainesville, Fl and my husband and I are expecting our first child in the end of July. We have considred putting Misha down but she seems to have so much playfullness and affection (most of the time) that we really hate to. Money is a problem and we are both nervous about exposing a baby to her. Thanks for the help! Melody - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - CFAITH - Your Online Faith Family - http://www.cfaith.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Re: Misha
For Misha's family, I don't know what your vet is talking about. FelV is not "attacking" her intestines. The problem with FeLV is that it weakens their immune systems and they have a tough time fighting off any other ailments, like colds etc. They are more prone to cancers too unfortunately, and the "drippy butt" symptom could be a sign of intestinal lymphoma. How long has Misha had diarrhea? From the little you told us about her symptoms it sounds like some sort of IBD (intestinal bowel disease) problem. You need more help from your vet. He needs to be treating whatever problems Misha has in the same way he would any other cat, (except quicker, with no 'wait and see' type attitude). IBD, (we don't know if this is Misha's problem), is usually treated with diet change. Some cats need to be taken off all dry food, sometimes they can't tolerate grains, sometimes vegetables, sometimes both. The people on the IBD list I belong to, (my Gypsy has a nasty case of IBD), advocate a raw diet (the group is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FelineIBD/ ) This was the only thing that helped my cat, but you can try getting her off dry food and on one of the better canned foods first. Stick with one type of protein, (chicken, duck etc.), to help her system adjust. There are also many homeopathic remedies that can help cats with diarrhea too, go to http://www.abchomeopathy.com/ and click on "remedy finder" to search for help with diarrhea. Vets usually prescribe steroids, (way too soon, imo), you want to try and eliminate whatever her system is reacting to first before you reach for the heavy artillery. When anyone has diarrhea, their body is essentially trying to 'get rid' of whatever is upsetting their systems by expelling it as fast as they can. It's like an allergy, you have to figure out what to give Misha to eat that her body won't react to. Go check out http://www.catnutrition.org/ for some ideas. If your concern is the unhealthfulness of liquid diarrhea all over your house, I completely understand. You can confine Misha to a single room, (make it as comfortable as possible and visit her often, she's not going to understand why she's being locked away), until you get the 'leaking butt' under control. If you are worried about Felv effecting you or your baby, your fears are unfounded. FeLV can not be transmitted to humans. If your concern is Toxoplasmosis, you are more than likely not in danger either, (please see recent archives addressing this concern). If you have had Misha with your other cats for six years, you do not have to be concerned about separating them. They either have Felv already, or they're not going to get it. Good luck, I wish you and your family the best, Nina Paul Jr wrote: Hey out there I need some sugeestions/feedback about Misha and what we should do with her. Misha is six years old and tested pos for FeLV. We have had her for almost 6 1/2 years. She is in good health and none of the other cats (all share the same wate dish) have FeLV. Misha's FeLV shows up, according to her vet by attacking her intestines. She has chronic bouts of what we call drippy butt. She leaves little presents aorund the house. She has been on various medications and recently the vet suggested Kaopectate or Pepto Bismo, which made her problem worse.(gave her pain and lots of diahreha) I have read aobut medications to treat FeLV, none of which cure it just maybe ease the symptoms. Does anyone else have a cat with this type of FeLv and if so what do you do? Also give me some feedback. We live in Gainesville, Fl and my husband and I are expecting our first child in the end of July. We have considred putting Misha down but she seems to have so much playfullness and affection (most of the time) that we really hate to. Money is a problem and we are both nervous about exposing a baby to her. Thanks for the help! Melody - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - CFAITH - Your Online Faith Family - http://www.cfaith.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Re: OT - different article on PETA in NC
Huh, that's interesting to know. I had been happy to find an article that was different from the only one you find on all the news sites and I hadn't been familiar with CCF or their stances. I wonder if they realize it's also a consumer right to have morals and choose to buy/consume/support, or NOT, based on a company or business's practices. hmph. A very interesting and informative site I recently came across that many here could be interested in: www.responsibleshopper.org It gives ratings on various companies on their business practices and employee treatment etc and lists who owns what etc. e.g. sweatshops, pollution, ethics, discrimination. Thanks for the additional info Tonya.catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, I don't know what's going on, but both these links are sponsored by the Center for Consumer Freedom. The center for consumer freedom is against all animal rights and animal welfare groups and animal welfare laws. For example they believe that puppy mills should not be put out of business because it's their consumer right to raise puppies in farm type conditions to produce 'cheaper goods' for consumers. etc... etc They don't believe circus animals should be 'protected' because it's the consumer's right to go to a circus. etc. tBarb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050616/dcthv010.html?.v=2 and there's a link in that article to a new website developed by Center for Consumer Freedom and the CCF's website was only launched about a month ago http://www.petakillsanimals.com/Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Yahoo! Mail MobileTake Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football
Re: for Barbara re unsubscribe
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Diet change, George, and Bramble at the vets
Yes I changed Bramble's diet to organic whiskers instead of usual but he as scratched his ears whilst he was on the normal stuff as does Minstrel. It could be dust mite allergy too. Bramble hasn't made anymore mess of his face. I have been putting E45 cream it - I would usually put 50% E45 and 5%) hydrocortisone but I ran out of the latter so need to get some more. It's what the dermatologist once recommeded for Tidge when she had skin problems to take the edge of the itch. How is George doing now - big prayers for him. Well this is the one you have been waiting for - went to see the boss man last night at my vets - he owns the company with about 6 practices. I was much happier with him and if he said I think it's time to euthanase I would trust him not like the one I saw before. He listened to me and when I said I wouldn't put bramble to sleep just because he is now blind or partially blind and that whilst he was eating, toileting, purring and kneading and coping well that I'll fight with him because he has such a will to carry on. When he shows pain and withdraws then he is saying no more and then I will immediately help him to pass over as when cats stop eating they are likely to be giving up - and in Brambles case due to helath I think that will definitely be the case and it would not be fair to try force feeding him. He is eating like a gannet half the time at the moment. Mr Regan said well "thats fair enough and I think it is the right attitude". As I knew there is no way of knowing how bramble will progress. Sometimes cats pick up again but you never know with the later stages of such viruses just what is going to happen next. His face is not as itchy now - he definitely did test positive for calicivirus as confirm by isolation tests at Glagow University. Well I got the result I should have got from the other vet who refused to treat because she wanted to put him to sleep. He was given a steroid shot to help the allergy and it will also help the seizures - he was also given antibiotics for his eyes because he has keritonitis or however you spell it - he had that figured in about 6 seconds. We don't know again if sight will restore but what is certain is that there isn't much sight there at all at the moment - but at least he was happy to try and do something whilst Bramble still wants to fight and is coping. It may or may not pay off but at least everything is being done now to try and help him. He did say that all cats react differently so there is no way of knowing but worth a try. He said to get Bramble to eat as much as he possibly can to get some weight on him as like I said his spine is thin - so his normal food plus extra chicken, scrambled egg, pilchards, tuna, so I went shopping last night. So finger crossed that he has a bit more time left in him yet - however short that may be. Thanks eveyone for your support so far and I'll certainly scream for more if needed. I will still be praying - and I'll keep you all posted. Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel & Buddy
