Re: support group for liver problem
Hi, This is the only Yahoo group I could find. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Liver/ -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Slightly OT:
I have tried Innova on my cats and dog several time and always run into problems. Diarrhea does happen with at least a couple of my cats. Gas is bad for a couple of others. My hairball vomiter vomits more often. If I could get it locally, I would love to try Natural Balance. From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Slightly OT: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:51:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from ns.pnet-server6.net ([207.44.240.64]) by mc1-f41.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:51:04 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ns.pnet-server6.net)by ns.pnet-server6.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1DtotJ-0006CA-6i; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:47:49 -0400 Received: from [66.33.211.26] (helo=merry.dreamhost.com)by ns.pnet-server6.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DtotH-0006C5-BKfor felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:47:47 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [216.251.104.107])by merry.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8E8175106for felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:50:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Info: N4u0pqWW+O2LRHIPcG6R8GddL6YpczteLPdaRhxRrik= Organization: http://www.bemikitties.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns.pnet-server6.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hotmail.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - felineleukemia.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2005 15:51:04.0569 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C3BB690:01C58A1E] here's been some talk abuot kitty diets so wanted to share this, it came from a nutrition list I'm on: The following is excerpted from a personal message I received from her in which I requested her viewpoint of the afore-mentioned food as a veterinary homeopath, feline specialist, tutor for the British Institute of Homeopathy in the USA for the advanced veterinary homeopathy degree there as well as a 30+ year breeder of champion cats (mostly Norwegian Forest Cats). I had sent her the full ingredients listing for Innova EVO as per the manufacturer's website (www.naturapet.com) and below is her response. Any added comments by myself are included below hers. * Innova I unfortunately know only too well. It was available at the vet clinic where I worked until 50% (I am not exaggerating) of the male cats came down with FLUTD on it. The rosemary is a no-no for the gut - kills the bacteria - but worse still, the vegetables make the urine alkaline, predisposing stones and blockage. Also the highest incidence of IBD was for cats on Innova, as the vegetables are very irritant to the delicate gut lining - especially as it is forced to be alkaline with the apples, carrots, potato, and other vegetables that do not belong in cat food. Namaste, Irene Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor E-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website address www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots ** Explanation of short forms used above: FLUTD = Feline Lower Urinary Tract Disease and IBD = Inflammatory Bowel Disease Rosemary extract is more and more being used by some commercial pet food manufacturers as a natural preservative for its antioxidant abilities (vit e, mixed tocopherols and/or vit c are MUCH, much better). The problem with rosemary arises in cats as... *a*) rosemary is a plant and cats don't do well over the long term with most (not all) plant materials due to their inability to properly detox most plants, therefore these materials act as a toxin and build up over time within the cat's body, eventually causing damage. *b*) rosemary also has antibiotic properties (as does garlic, another no-no for cats as, besides killing off good gut bacteria, causes hemolytic anemia) and so, just like most allopathic antibiotics, are indiscriminant in their killing of bacteria and so they also kill the normal bowel micro flora (healthy gut bacteria) in cats. As for the Royal Canin (RC) Slim 38 having corn gluten meal as one of its protein sources...while it is agreed that corn is not the most desireable element and yes it IS preferred to not be included, it is STILL less harmful over the long term than some other ingredients like wheat, fruits, vegetables and (most) herbs. She also says that research specific to cat digestion actually illustrates that in fact, cats CAN utilize corn protein to a certain extent so it isn't as bad as might be thought. A lesser of two evils so to speak type of thing. Wheat, fruits,
RE: housing/fostering of FeLV+ cats
In case no one has told you lately, what a great thing you are doing! How many do you keep at one time? Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karolyn Lount Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: housing/fostering of FeLV+ cats Hi, I believe I said I could take one (1) at this time. I was one of the Founders of Island Cat Rescue, 11 yrs. ago. At the present time I am a member of 2nd Chance Cat Rescue. All the cats are kept indoors except for the patio that has Fence In around the top of it. I have been taking in Felv+ cats for 13yrs. I have been a client of Dr.Wong of Blue Cross Pet Hosp., in San Francisco for 22yrs. At times I have used Alameda Pet Hosp, Providence Hosp, both in Alameda. and I have used Broadway Pet Hosp. in Oakland since they are open on Sundays. In addition I have taken several cats to Univ. of Calif., at Davis Vet. College. All cats get the very best of medical care until the FeLV takes over, then they are helped over the Rainbow Bridge. When I said I would take a cat unseen I have done this for yrs. Some one would call me about a FeLV+ cat that needed a home. I didn't care if it was young/old, cute/ugly shy,etc. It was a FeLV cat that need a home. If I had room I would say yes. I would even get calls from well known rescue groups. I will only take one at a time as it is only fair to the cats that I now have and the new cat. The lady that comes to help once a week is a retired Head Officer from the city of Alameda Animal Control. Since I am an older lady plans have been made in a Trust for the cats when I pass on. If you want any more info. please do give me a call at 510 522 4762. FeLV cats have a right to live and not be Put Down I now have one that is 11yrs old. She may very well be a carrier.
RE: support group for liver problem
Thank you so much for finding it - you are so kind - I will visit them - Thanks. Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:42 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: support group for liver problem Hi, This is the only Yahoo group I could find. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Liver/ -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Fw: [PurringPixieCatResource] FELV positive 1 year old female New Jersey
This person is not a member here, you must reply to him/her directly via the email address under the message. - Original Message - From: squeezycat2005 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: [PurringPixieCatResource] FELV positive 1 year old female New Jersey I am a technician in a New Jersey animal hospital with a relinquished FELV positive female cat(tested 2 times)in fast need of a home. She has been with us for 3 weeks awaiting a home, but it looks like the home will fall through. She is a brown tabby who is very shy but otherwise examined by our veterinarian and healthy. Any ideas will be much appreciated. Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.1/51 - Release Date: 7/18/2005
OT - Sally in trouble with Panluek
Hello Everyone, Poor Sally (from San Jose) is waging a terrible battle with Panleukopenia kittens. The mother and four babies, (about 4 or 5 weeks old) were rescued from a back yard situation. She has already lost two of the kittens one of which was diagnosed by a vet with Panleukopenia. Her computer is down and she is desperately seeking help with remedies for vomiting, (the poor little guys can't keep the meds down). They don't have diarrhea yet, (do have soft stool), they are starting to refuse food, as of this morning neither had a temp. So far they have been given 4 doses of Arsenicum Album (6c once an hour), they are getting Transfer Factor Stress formula and Amoxi, (prescribed by vet) and subq fluids. Not only is she losing these sweet babies one at a time, but the rest of her cats, (a whole houseful) are being put in danger. Anyone that thinks they could help, please write me off-list and I'll send you her phone number, or pass on the info. Say a prayer for the babies, their Momma and the rest of Sally's cats, (some of which have not been vaccinated!). Thanks, Nina
RE: OT - Sally in trouble with Panluek
Could she give a fluid with V-C (sterile form) to kittens - I think it's critical to give these guys fluid to keep them alive -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:49 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT - Sally in trouble with Panluek Hello Everyone, Poor Sally (from San Jose) is waging a terrible battle with Panleukopenia kittens. The mother and four babies, (about 4 or 5 weeks old) were rescued from a back yard situation. She has already lost two of the kittens one of which was diagnosed by a vet with Panleukopenia. Her computer is down and she is desperately seeking help with remedies for vomiting, (the poor little guys can't keep the meds down). They don't have diarrhea yet, (do have soft stool), they are starting to refuse food, as of this morning neither had a temp. So far they have been given 4 doses of Arsenicum Album (6c once an hour), they are getting Transfer Factor Stress formula and Amoxi, (prescribed by vet) and subq fluids. Not only is she losing these sweet babies one at a time, but the rest of her cats, (a whole houseful) are being put in danger. Anyone that thinks they could help, please write me off-list and I'll send you her phone number, or pass on the info. Say a prayer for the babies, their Momma and the rest of Sally's cats, (some of which have not been vaccinated!). Thanks, Nina
