Re: Spayed twice - Marylyn
If she can't come in contact with an intact male you can wait and see if she comes in heat Tad Nina wrote: Marylyn, A neighbor of mine rescued a kitty off the street and asked me to have her spayed. Of course, she had very little money so I asked a local shelter if we could do it through them. Poor kitty was opened up only to find she had already been spayed. She was never the same after that. She was never really a friendly cat, but after that she wouldn't let anyone touch her except through a brush. Very sad. I had simply turned her over to this group, I'll never do that again. I always take any cats into the vet myself now. Who knows if she had rough treatment, or disrespectful treatment, when I wasn't there. Hard lesson learned. What were the vets looking for with the blood test? Reduced hormone levels? I have always been told, if you can't see the scar, there's no way to know if they've been spayed before. I would do anything not to put another cat through an experience like that poor kitty endured. Nina Marylyn wrote: I took Dixie Louise to my vet to be spayed and she tested positive for FeLV. There were lots of conversations about how to handle the "situation" especially since I have Kitty, a FeLV neg cat who has cancer. To get to the point, all the vets at the clinic, who are very friendly to all the oddities I bring in, supported having her spayed because it was a lot less stressful than going into heat several times a year and certainly less stressful than a pregnancy. Ihave friends who are animal communicators andDixie kept telling them she had been to the vet before. I had my vets run ablood test when they could find no surgery scar. Seems like Dixie had been spayed by someone in the past. Luckily, my AC friends were there for her or she would have had surgery a second time. It is highly unlikely this would ever happen again.
Buster update
Buster isn't doing well at all today...I did get him to eat a little on his own Fri..and drink some water..He went to the box a couple of times, but is very wobbly.. I got his meds down him early this morning, but now he won't eat at all...I tried to feed him some of the same thing I did yesterday and he licked the juice then almost immediately threw up...then I tried a/d, but he wouldn't touch it...I know I have to get something in him, but he is very hard to deal with like that..It really stresses him out..I did give him some pepcid and appetite stimulant transdermal. I guess Bandy knows he isn't feeling well because I have never seen Bandy clean him and now I have seen this twice today...Bandy is staying right with him.. Any suggestions on what I should do since he threw up, I don't know what to do..I did get a little water in him but not much...I didn't know if I should try to force feed him or not since he threw up.. I will post his blood work later...I do know that his WBC is very low and so is the PCV. All liver tests are elevated and all others are normal..Keep him in your prayers.. Kerry, Bandy and Buster Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!
RE: Buster update
So sorry to hear about Buster when my Tucson had very low WBC, vet gave her a series of immuno-regulin shots. WBC came back up pretty quick. Had to do it twice and both times it worked Both times I knew something was up because she didnt eatand eating is her very favorite thing to do! I got her to eat a little something by giving her anything she would swallowham, tuna water, cottage cheese, a little milk not things I would normally rely on as nourishment but at that point I just wanted to get something in her. Luckily, her lack of appetite only lasted a few days so it was not a major problem.. Didnt know whether you had considered this Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Roach Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 5:12 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Buster update Buster isn't doing well at all today...I did get him to eat a little on his own Fri..and drink some water..He went to the box a couple of times, but is very wobbly.. I got his meds down him early this morning, but now he won't eat at all...I tried to feed him some of the same thing I did yesterday and he licked the juice then almost immediately threw up...then I tried a/d, but he wouldn't touch it...I know I have to get something in him, but he is very hard to deal with like that..It really stresses him out..I did give him some pepcid and appetite stimulant transdermal. I guess Bandy knows he isn't feeling well because I have never seen Bandy clean him and now I have seen this twice today...Bandy is staying right with him.. Any suggestions on what I should do since he threw up, I don't know what to do..I did get a little water in him but not much...I didn't know if I should try to force feed him or not since he threw up.. I will post his blood work later...I do know that his WBC is very low and so is the PCV. All liver tests are elevated and all others are normal.. Keep him in your prayers.. Kerry, Bandy and Buster Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!
Re: Spayed twice - Marylyn
They were looking at the hormone levels. There are two tests that can be run. I don't understand the details but the one they ran on Dixie was a simple blood test. The other involves giving the cathormones and seeing what the reactionis. I would have loved to have seen my vet's face when the test results came in. He was very sure she was intact. Anyway, when he called it was "Dixie is either a male or she has been spayed." I understand an ultrasound and a very good reader can tell. I was a big believer in animal communicators before this. Now I am totally convinced. What are the odds of a cat who has been thrown away being spayed and showing up at my house? Then having enough sense to tell two friends that she absolutely did not need to go to the vet's again? My vet was against letting her come into heat if we could prevent it. He said the spaying would be less traumatic for her than coming into heat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: Re: Spayed twice - Marylyn If she can't come in contact with an intact maleyou can wait and see if she comes in heatTadNina wrote: Marylyn,A neighbor of mine rescued a kitty off the street and asked me to have her spayed. Of course, she had very little money so I asked a local shelter if we could do it through them. Poor kitty was opened up only to find she had already been spayed. She was never the same after that. She was never really a friendly cat, but after that she wouldn't let anyone touch her except through a brush. Very sad. I had simply turned her over to this group, I'll never do that again. I always take any cats into the vet myself now. Who knows if she had rough treatment, or disrespectful treatment, when I wasn't there. Hard lesson learned.What were the vets looking for with the blood test? Reduced hormone levels? I have always been told, if you can't see the scar, there's no way to know if they've been spayed before. I would do anything not to put another cat through an experience like that poor kitty endured.NinaMarylyn wrote: I took Dixie Louise to my vet to be spayed and she tested positive for FeLV. There were lots of conversations about how to handle the "situation" especially since I have Kitty, a FeLV neg cat who has cancer. To get to the point, all the vets at the clinic, who are very friendly to all the oddities I bring in, supported having her spayed because it was a lot less stressful than going into heat several times a year and certainly less stressful than a pregnancy. Ihave friends who are animal communicators andDixie kept telling them she had been to the vet before. I had my vets run ablood test when they could find no surgery scar. Seems like Dixie had been spayed by someone in the past. Luckily, my AC friends were there for her or she would have had surgery a second time. It is highly unlikely this would ever happen again.
Re: Chris' Tucson - testing neg than pos
What an amazing story!! Took 5 more days and many holes punched and threats to management to call media but lo behold little Tucson her brother came out of the wall. They were about 6 weeks old and had fallen into an ac duct. Mom who was an incredible cat must have been dropping food down there while caring for her other kittens on the roofall this in 100 degree weather! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Buster update
I don't know, Kerry. I don't think I would force feed if he's vomiting. I can't recall the med. my cat was on for liver disease, but she was on something. We also had her on sam-E. I would think the a/d would be too rich for her?Maybe some chicken broth?tonyaKerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Buster isn't doing well at all today...I did get him to eat a little on his own Fri..and drink some water..He went to the box a couple of times, but is very wobbly.. I got his meds down him early this morning, but now he won't eat at all...I tried to feed him some of the same thing I did yesterday and he licked the juice then almost immediately threw up...then I tried a/d, but he wouldn't touch it...I know I have to get something in him, but he is very hard to deal with like that..It really stresses him out..I did give him some pepcid and appetite stimulant transdermal. I guess Bandy knows he isn't feeling well because I have never seen Bandy clean him and now I have seen this twice today...Bandy is staying right with him.. Any suggestions on what I should do since he threw up, I don't know what to do..I did get a little water in him but not much...I didn't know if I should try to force feed him or not since he threw up.. I will post his blood work later...I do know that his WBC is very low and so is the PCV. All liver tests are elevated and all others are normal..Keep him in your prayers.. Kerry, Bandy and Buster Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!
Re: Buster update
See if you can find something salty for him. That seems to help Kitty. Deli ham (I know, it is awful) is a favorite. If she gets a little down she feels better and often will eat later. You may need to rub it on the nose or put a piece inthe mouth (don't force it--just make sure he can taste it). Good luck. This is a hard one. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Buster update I don't know, Kerry. I don't think I would force feed if he's vomiting. I can't recall the med. my cat was on for liver disease, but she was on something. We also had her on sam-E. I would think the a/d would be too rich for her? Maybe some chicken broth? tonyaKerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buster isn't doing well at all today...I did get him to eat a little on his own Fri..and drink some water..He went to the box a couple of times, but is very wobbly.. I got his meds down him early this morning, but now he won't eat at all...I tried to feed him some of the same thing I did yesterday and he licked the juice then almost immediately threw up...then I tried a/d, but he wouldn't touch it...I know I have to get something in him, but he is very hard to deal with like that..It really stresses him out..I did give him some pepcid and appetite stimulant transdermal. I guess Bandy knows he isn't feeling well because I have never seen Bandy clean him and now I have seen this twice today...Bandy is staying right with him.. Any suggestions on what I should do since he threw up, I don't know what to do..I did get a little water in him but not much...I didn't know if I should try to force feed him or not since he threw up.. I will post his blood work later...I do know that his WBC is very low and so is the PCV. All liver tests are elevated and all others are normal.. Keep him in your prayers.. Kerry, Bandy and Buster Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!
RE: Chris' Tucson - testing neg than pos
Well-Tucson came out of that wall; ate and hasnt stopped eating since! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Chris' Tucson - testing neg than pos What an amazing story!! Took 5 more days and many holes punched and threats to management to call media but lo behold little Tucson her brother came out of the wall. They were about 6 weeks old and had fallen into an ac duct. Mom who was an incredible cat must have been dropping food down there while caring for her other kittens on the roofall this in 100 degree weather! -- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Buster update
Actigal, and Milk thistle are good for liver ailments. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com