Re: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty
Kitty would take this when she wouldn't eat anything. Sometimes just a few licks of it would get her to the point she could eat Fancy Fest or some other canned food. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: Re: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty You can up the calorie intake short term by adding a few teaspoons of Vita-Cal (a generic of Nutri-Cal) supplement to each feeding. This adds to the calories without the extra bulk. I always keep a tube on hand. Not sure how it would be for a CRF kitty though, maybe be way too much protein, here's the link: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=3177 (there's a "more info" link to click which lists the nutritional facts) They eat it fairly well, it's flavored. Some of my cats beg for it, others I have to sit on to force it into them. Here's the Nutri-Cal link, you should be able to find this locally at pet food stores (or at your vet's office) in your area if you don't like to mail order: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=3378 Jennhttp://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.2/329 - Release Date: 5/2/2006
Re: Belinda
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Re: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty
Jenn, I'm so glad you're back. That's an excellent suggestion, for Hideyo and anyone else that is assist feeding. You're experience and input are always so appreciated. Hideyo, have you joined the assist feeding group yet? It's usually such a stressful thing to have to assist feed someone that isn't interested in food, I'm hoping they can help with hints for you and Hannibal. Prayers and good thoughts as always for you and your babies, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can up the calorie intake short term by adding a few teaspoons of Vita-Cal (a generic of Nutri-Cal) supplement to each feeding. This adds to the calories without the extra bulk. I always keep a tube on hand. Not sure how it would be for a CRF kitty though, maybe be way too much protein, here's the link: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=3177 (there's a "more info" link to click which lists the nutritional facts) They eat it fairly well, it's flavored. Some of my cats beg for it, others I have to sit on to force it into them. Here's the Nutri-Cal link, you should be able to find this locally at pet food stores (or at your vet's office) in your area if you don't like to mail order: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=3378 Jenn
Re: while we're on the subject of adding RR to water, can you add Interferon to water?
My vet told me that the Interferon isn't effective added to water, or food. Even if it was, how would you monitor individual intake that way? I don't think it's possible to od them on it though. It has no taste at all, it's just like water. You could try adding it to a tiny bit of clear broth, goat's milk, or formula so you know who's getting what. Even if it didn't help, it couldn't hurt. I saved the Interferon for when my guys were exhibiting symptoms since there is a concern of building immunities to it's benefits. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to add Rescue Remedy to my FIV+ feral colony's water fountain, but I'm curious, could I add some Interferon to it as well? Does it work in plain water, and will they drink it, or does it taste funny? I've got them on California Natural cat food (dry) free choice, and I supplement with Missing Link and Wild Trax feline supplements (in the 3x a week Fancy Feast treat, not every day), they are pictures of health, but I want to do everything I can to keep them that way. They are mostly FIV+, and all FELV- Jenn
Jen: Smookie, feline herpes, and a corneal ulcer
Thanks Jen-I will try that when I get home from work tonight. Hopefully it will work a lot better! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Wendy, if she's able to kick you in the boobs, you > aren't restraining her right. The > BEST way to restrain a cat (on your own, with no > tools or gimmicks) is to put the cat > on the floor, preferably a SMOOTH floor, so their > claws can't get any traction > (bathrooms work well, even IN the bathtub if you > have full house carpeting). Straddle > the cat, facing the same direction, then go down on > your knees OVER the cat. The cat > will be between your legs, it's back near your > crotch, it's tail will be going out > behind you, near your feet, it's head will be in > front of your knees. Put your feet > close together, to block the "rear escape" route, > then hold kitty's head or neck > scruff, and SIT down on her. Don't literally put all > your weight on her, but you want > to form a wedge, a TIGHT one, on her with your > crotch, legs, feet, and hands. She > should be trapped now. If she moves, sit down more > and squeeze your legs together > tighter, keep your feet crossed if you have to, to > form a tight wedge (a few > threatening curse words usually work well in this > step, LOL). Since you are > approaching with the medicine from the front, most > cats will react by trying to back > out of this hold, so you have to keep your legs, > feet, and butt all tight together. > You should be able to grab her by the neck scruff > (the skin) and pull her back and > push her down if she tries to run forward out of the > hold (front claws will be > clawing uselessly in the air to the front, just > avoid them, aim the drops/meds > BETWEEN swats, timing is everything). Use one hand > to wrangle kitty, use the other > for giving the meds. Make sure you have the > bottles/tubes, etc OPEN before you begin, > because you'll only have one free hand to use for > the medicine application. This > method will work for all but the most feral and > vicious cats. > > Jenn > http://ucat.us > http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html > Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue: > http://ucat.us/adopt.html > PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND: > Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured > when someone wrapped wire around > his neck to strangle him, > Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring > Tangle to Vermont to find him a > good home! > http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html > DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for > construction), a digital camera (for > pictures), and more towels! > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.2/329 - > Release Date: 5/2/2006 > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty
Because of Belinda's experience with feeding tubes, I would absolutely try one if/when the need ever arises again. I wish I had done that with Gypsy BEFORE she got so emaciated. By the time I knew enough to try one, she was too weak to be sedated for the procedure. Belinda, you and Bailey are just amazing. It's so frustrating to not know why his kidneys are giving him trouble. Are the exercises the same sort of manual physical therapy that would be used with anyone not bearing weight on their legs? Does he like having you stretch his limbs for him? I assume you are using energy work as well. How are you doing? How's your energy level? Have you healed from your surgery? You and Bailey are an inspiration to us, blessings and prayers for his recovery, Nina Belinda wrote: Hideyo, Many cats with CRF don't eat good or even stop eating, it's pretty common. If possible try to get atleast 100cc of food into him over the course of a day even if you have to give him 20cc's every 2 hours or so. When I was syringing Bailey he absolutely hated it that's why when we did the bone marrow aspirate and he was under for that I told my vet to go ahead and put in the feeding tube. Bailey absolutely would not be alive if I hadn't done that. He has not eaten anything on his own in almost 4 months. He started at a weight of about 8 pounds because he had lost alot too. I feed him 60cc's 3 times a day every six hours and on his fourth feeding I give him 40cc's, so he gets a total of 220cc's a day. With that he has gotten up to 9.8 and is maintaining that. I just wish we could get the kidney ailment taken care of but we still don't know what is causing it. He will gte blood work again in 2 weeks and we'll xray to see if there is any change in his kidney's and make sure the tube is still in the correct spot and OK. He has good days where he will go out and lay in the sun, but he still has no energy. His back legs are weak from not using them much and my vet gave me some exercises I can do to try and build the muscle in them back up. We ordered a new blend of chinese herbs and they should be here any day. His gums still look nice and pink so I'm not too worried about anemia, just the kidney's. I hope Hannibal starts feeling better soon.
Re: [felvot] Interferon strength
I did a quick Google and didn't see anything about dilution instructions. You could always have your vet call my vet at Veterinary Medical and Surgical Group in Ventura CA (805-339-2290). Have them ask for my vet's liaison, Michelle Rose. They're extremely helpful and should be able to help you out. When you find out, could you post it to the list? Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys I have changed vets I have Bobby Cat now Felv pos and yesterday we found out Penny a rescued calico is Fiv positive. Dr Wilson will get me some more interferon for them but he asked what the dilution or strength was.can you guys help? Karen
Re: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty
You know when caring for bottle babies there's a trick to help a failing kitten bounce back... You can rub just the tiniest bit of clear corn syrup on their gums to give them some energy, it has helped get someone eating that wasn't interested, or acting lethargic. Nutri cal has corn syrup in it, that's what made me think of it. Maybe it would kick start Hannibal eating on his own a little more. Nina Marylyn wrote: Kitty would take this when she wouldn't eat anything. Sometimes just a few licks of it would get her to the point she could eat Fancy Fest or some other canned food.
Becca: Foo Fighting Kitties
LOL...I don't know why I do this to myself. I know one thing: I'm not starting any new projects (that I can control) until well into the summer. My husband and I both need a rest!!! :) Wendy --- Becca DuBose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wendy, > > It sounds like you don't have enough on your plate > right now. Is there something else you can squeeze > in? > > ;) > > Becca > > > wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi guys, > > I am sad to hear that I'm not the only one having > trouble with kitties behaving in a uncivil feline > way. > I put Pepper and LuLu, my two original kitties, in > our small 6x6 room, with their kitty tree, litter > boxes, and food and water with the intention of > re-training them to use the litter box while we > tiled > the house. So far, that has worked out great, > except > when I let them out last week to reintroduce > themselves to the house, while I was laid up on the > couch after having surgery on both feet, LuLu > attacks > kitten Smookie in my bedroom. I jump up (ouch!), > grab > the nearest thing with a handle (a cheap sponge > mop), > and "run" down the hallway with these clod-hopper > post-surgical shoes on (OMG, OW, OMG, OW, OW...) > All > the while, these cats are screaming. I take a swat > at > what I thought was LuLu under the bed attacking > Smookie, only to find that I had accidentally > whacked > Smookie (thank goodness it wasn't hard!) I take > another swat at LuLu, while yelling for her to get > out > of here, as I was very angry with her, and > accidentally hit the cheap glass cover on my > nightstand, and glass goes flying everywhere, ALL > OVER > THE BEDROOM!!! I picked up glass all day. I was so > mad, because here's this poor kitty, who doesn't > seem > to have a mean bone in her body, and just wants to > play, sleep, eat, and be loved on, and has already > lost one eye to a stress-related virus, who's > getting > picked on by my beloved LuLu. So now I am keeping > LuLu and Pepper (who can be just as mean to Smookie) > in that 6x6 room, which is supposed to be the > bathroom > for all the kitties in the house. It SUCKS! I am > going to try reintroducing them when I can get > around > better, but for now, life is not how I imagined it > would be after we adopted Smookie. Poor baby... > > :) > Wendy > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Just joined
Hi Everyone, I just joined this list and thought I'd introduce myself. I lost a cat, Cleo, to leukemia last January. She was only 1 year old. She had been vaccinated, but the vet said she probably received in in utero from her mom so the vaccine ended up doing more harm than good. She was a rescue and the mother was not well cared for. Since then we have taken in two other rescued kittens. The vet we switched to late last year recommended testing them for FeLV before vaccinating them. My other vet never mentioned this with Cleo. One was okay, but the other, Loca, is a carrier. I just got the news today so I am pretty shaken up, having lost Cleo not too long ago. We are going to meet with the vet in the next few days to discuss Loca's situation in more detail. I'm joining this list in hopes of learning more about what I can do to keep her healthy and give her the best quality of life possible. - Noëlle
RE: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty
Hi, Belinda, thank you so much for your encouragement- before I started assist feeding, I did consider feedinb tube - my vet thoughts that she could put one through his nose without anthesia (I was really concerned about him going through the anethesia) Is feeding tube very uncomfortable? I don't know what it looks like or feels like... 100cc of food -wow, that's a lot..I have been using 6cc syringe with Hannibal - which means that I have to give him almost 20 of them.. He DOES eat on his own, as a matter of fact, he has been feeling good for the past couple of days as he went to outside enclosure to get some cool air which he hadn't done for a couple of weeks - How bad is Bailey's kidney, Belinda? My Hanniba's kidney values weren't bad at all until a couple of months ago.. As a matter of fact, with fluid therapy at him, it was almost back to normal.. Until I made him go through anethesia for a dental.. He had a problem eating because of a bad teeth.. Then his kidney went down hill.. I so regret this for the rest of my life.. I wish I figured out a way that his tooth could have been taken out without general anethesia.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty Because of Belinda's experience with feeding tubes, I would absolutely try one if/when the need ever arises again. I wish I had done that with Gypsy BEFORE she got so emaciated. By the time I knew enough to try one, she was too weak to be sedated for the procedure. Belinda, you and Bailey are just amazing. It's so frustrating to not know why his kidneys are giving him trouble. Are the exercises the same sort of manual physical therapy that would be used with anyone not bearing weight on their legs? Does he like having you stretch his limbs for him? I assume you are using energy work as well. How are you doing? How's your energy level? Have you healed from your surgery? You and Bailey are an inspiration to us, blessings and prayers for his recovery, Nina Belinda wrote: > Hideyo, >Many cats with CRF don't eat good or even stop eating, it's pretty > common. If possible try to get atleast 100cc of food into him over > the course of a day even if you have to give him 20cc's every 2 hours > or so. When I was syringing Bailey he absolutely hated it that's why > when we did the bone marrow aspirate and he was under for that I told > my vet to go ahead and put in the feeding tube. Bailey absolutely > would not be alive if I hadn't done that. He has not eaten anything > on his own in almost 4 months. He started at a weight of about 8 > pounds because he had lost alot too. I feed him 60cc's 3 times a day > every six hours and on his fourth feeding I give him 40cc's, so he > gets a total of 220cc's a day. With that he has gotten up to 9.8 and > is maintaining that. I just wish we could get the kidney ailment > taken care of but we still don't know what is causing it. He will gte > blood work again in 2 weeks and we'll xray to see if there is any > change in his kidney's and make sure the tube is still in the correct > spot and OK. > > He has good days where he will go out and lay in the sun, but he still > has no energy. His back legs are weak from not using them much and my > vet gave me some exercises I can do to try and build the muscle in > them back up. We ordered a new blend of chinese herbs and they should > be here any day. His gums still look nice and pink so I'm not too > worried about anemia, just the kidney's. > > I hope Hannibal starts feeling better soon. >
Re: Some good news--and thanks to Nina & Hideyo!!
Kerry, Praises that you got the family leave approved (yea!) and I'll continue to pray for your dad, you, your kitties, and your family. Also, awesome that Mickey tested negative! I am happy for you. :) Wendy --- Kerry MacKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's some good news. > But first, the background for those who don't know > it: of the feral colony of 5 kittens (Caramel, Levi, > Flavia, Snoball and Mickey) and I adult cat (Momcat) > I took in in December 2003, 4 of the kittens > ---Caramel, Levi, Flavia & Snoball--tested positive > in Feb 2004 and all 5 kittens tested positive in > July 2004. Momcat tested negative both times. > All were quarantined in my 2nd bedroom, away from my > 3 existing negative cats. The 4 kitties that tested > pos twice succumbed between November 2004 and July > 2005. That left 1 pos, Mickey, and 1 neg, Momcat, > both of whom I continued to quarantine. They were > buddies and it would have been cruel to separate > them, particularly as Momcat appeared immune to > FeLV. > My dream has been that Mickey would revert to neg, > and I could then integrate them both in my > household. Hope springs eternal as they say-- I > dreamed of that before, and it didn't come to pass. > Nonetheless for about 10 months, I dreamedand > procrastinated over re-testing them for a variety of > reasons, not least fear of Mickey testing pos again. > Today I trapped Mickey, had him re-tested, > and..he's NEGATIVE!!! > Because I'm anal, I'm going to trap Momcat next > weekend and have her tested. I fully expect her to > have remained negative. But, if by some horrible > twist of fate she is not (because she caught it from > the pos kitties before they passed away) I plan > at lastto vaccinate my negs and integrate > them all anyway. There is a much better vaccination > available now, and my vet has the special equipment > to do it. > This is such wonderful news on so many levels, not > least because it demonstrates -- again---that FeLV > is simply not as contagious as most people believe. > Mickey lived with his siblings all his life, tested > pos once, but has thrown it off. And Momcat, who > also lived with them all, never got it in the first > place. (And neither of them has ever been FeLV > vaccinated!) > It's also something I'm going to highlight in the > letter to Paula F in my lobbying for the new Chicago > PAWS shelter to have an FeLV annex. I had intended > the letter to be (finally) mailed on Friday. But I'm > glad that it wasn't! > I now want to thank Nina for coming to my rescue > when I called her at 11pm last night (1am my time) > in a panic because Mickey walked into the trap way > before I expected him to. How could I reasonably > expect him to stay there all night? What was I going > to do about his bodily needs?? Nina reassured me a) > that she has had to do that too on occasion (so I > stopped feeling like a monster) and b) advised me to > elevate the trap and layer the floor with paper. > Sure enough, everything fell through the wire mesh > on to the paper so Mickey was not in the discomfort > in which he would otherwise have been and he > survived the night. > And I have Hideyo to thank for the success of the > next stage--I was gearing up for a chase & catch > battle in transferring Mickey from the cage to a > carrier to take to the vet (I don't have a car; so > carrier is easier for standing in street hailing > cab). But Hideyo has a great technique that she > shared---uncover the cage the cat is in, and cover > (or provide dark-colored) carrier you want to > transfer the cat to. The principle being that they > will always prefer the dark option. (Correct me if > I'm wrong about the principle Hideyo) Sure > enough--my little feral Mickey WALKED from the cage > straight in to the carrier. No battle necessary!! > So, today is a happy day at no 603, to say the > least. > Also, last but not least, I want to say, I'm sorry I > continue to only post sporadically. I pray for all > your sick kitties and send healing vibes. And my > heart goes out to all those that have crossed the > bridge. > I hope that I will be in a position to post more > regualarly when I get back from UK mid-June. (I go > there mid May.) (I had a month's FMLA approved > yesterday, to be with my dad, who has Stage 3 > cancer.) I *really* miss being part of the everyday > list. This group is just the best EVER. > love and hugs to all of you and your furballs.Kerry > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Kerry and Bandy
Kerry, How is Bandy today? I am sorry to hear that his eyes are having trouble. Did you take him to that specialist in Carrollton? Smookie is having trouble too. Please keep us posted on what the vet says and I'll keep Bandy in my prayers. :) Wendy --- Kerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I took Bandy to an eye specialist in Dallas on > Fri...as his sight has just been getting worse in > the last week or so...They changed his meds and > increased them to 4x a day..also put him on > zithromax for 5 days...he goes back in 2 weeks for a > re-check..The doctor did say that we might get some > of his vision back, but I don't think he was really > that hopeful...I can get him to play with his > string, but I don't know if he sees the shadow or > what...I am just glad he will do that...I am going > to keep everything the same for him so he won't have > any trouble finding anything... > Michelle, if you see this let me know if you have > any more info on the anterior uveitis..the doctor > did say, that he might have posterior, too...He said > there was so much inflammation in there, he couldn't > really tell... > Please pray for Bandy everyone... > Kerry and Bandy > > > - > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone > Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty
100cc is just slightly over 3/8 of a cup, not really a LOT. Gary - Original Message - From: "Hideyo Yamamoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: RE: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty Hi, Belinda, thank you so much for your encouragement- before I started assist feeding, I did consider feedinb tube - my vet thoughts that she could put one through his nose without anthesia (I was really concerned about him going through the anethesia) Is feeding tube very uncomfortable? I don't know what it looks like or feels like... 100cc of food -wow, that's a lot..I have been using 6cc syringe with Hannibal - which means that I have to give him almost 20 of them..
RE: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty
Well, it's a lot for Hannibal who hates to be assisted fed --- on the other hand, some one like Ginger (my felk kitty) is not difficult at all to give 100 cc - just it's difficult and stressful enough for me to even give him a squart (which is 6 cc) --- 100 CC seems a long way for me and Hannibal. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty 100cc is just slightly over 3/8 of a cup, not really a LOT. Gary - Original Message - From: "Hideyo Yamamoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: RE: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty Hi, Belinda, thank you so much for your encouragement- before I started assist feeding, I did consider feedinb tube - my vet thoughts that she could put one through his nose without anthesia (I was really concerned about him going through the anethesia) Is feeding tube very uncomfortable? I don't know what it looks like or feels like... 100cc of food -wow, that's a lot..I have been using 6cc syringe with Hannibal - which means that I have to give him almost 20 of them..
new diagnosis
My 10 year old domestic short hair just got diagnosed with FIV and FELV last week. She was lethargic, not eating and drinking, etc which is why I brought her in and how we found out the diagnosis. She ended up with a 105.9 fever and was hospitalized for several days with IV fluids and antibiotics. The fever broke and she came home on Friday night. She has been an outdoor cat all her life (I adopted her 4 1/2 years ago) and she is now an indoor cat due to the diagnoses. We were just back at the vet today because she is limping and I didn't know what was wrong with her leg. Turns out the leg is fine, but her temp is 106.9!!! They gave her some subcutaneous fluid and an injection to bring down the fever and let me take her home as long as I monitor her temp hourly. The vet said it is all from the FELV virus, but I'm wondering if this is how the whole rest of her life is going to be- constant trips to the vet for high fevers, dehydration, fluids and medication. I want my cat to be happy and comfortable. Allie is truly like my child and I am completely devistated. I find myself watching her like a hawk now, and spending every waking moment with her not knowing if I have one more day, one more week or one more year. I have done a lot of research, but because I don't know how long she has had the disease it's hard to know what's going to happen-- I thought she had kicked this infection and it turns out she hadn't... Anyone else experienced these unremitting fevers and infections? Does this mean it is close to the end? I obviously want to have Allie with me as long as I can, but I am not willing to torture her becuase I would not want to be tortured if it were me. I am just so overwhelmed and so devistated right now, I can't even think straight! One vet had mentioned interferon injections to boost her immune system. I am considering looking into those, but I don't know if it would be more tortuous to put my kitty through injections or have her get sick all the time... Does anyone have any experience with interferon? Thanks for listening! Jen Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: new diagnosis
Jen, A few members on this list have experienced the same thing. What seems to work best to get them over this round of fevers is Immuno-Regulan, also known as Equistim. There are articles about it on this group's web page (www.felineluekemia.org) and you can do a search of the archived messages for information on how Smokey was treated for it when he had unremitting fevers. Bandy also had this issue and was treated with steroids (dexamethasone) and some other things. He took longer to respond, I think, but eventually did, although he is having some eye problems now. I will forward some old emails from the archive about Smokey to you-- I saved them on my computer. Michelle In a message dated 5/4/2006 3:29:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My 10 year old domestic short hair just got diagnosed with FIV and FELV last week. She was lethargic, not eating and drinking, etc which is why I brought her in and how we found out the diagnosis. She ended up with a 105.9 fever and was hospitalized for several days with IV fluids and antibiotics. The fever broke and she came home on Friday night. She has been an outdoor cat all her life (I adopted her 4 1/2 years ago) and she is now an indoor cat due to the diagnoses. We were just back at the vet today because she is limping and I didn't know what was wrong with her leg. Turns out the leg is fine, but her temp is 106.9!!! They gave her some subcutaneous fluid and an injection to bring down the fever and let me take her home as long as I monitor her temp hourly. The vet said it is all from the FELV virus, but I'm wondering if this is how the whole rest of her life is going to be- constant trips to the vet for high fevers, dehydration, fluids and medication. I want my cat to be happy and comfortable. Allie is truly like my child and I am completely devistated. I find myself watching her like a hawk now, and spending every waking moment with her not knowing if I have one more day, one more week or one more year. I have done a lot of research, but because I don't know how long she has had the disease it's hard to know what's going to happen-- I thought she had kicked this infection and it turns out she hadn't... Anyone else experienced these unremitting fevers and infections? Does this mean it is close to the end? I obviously want to have Allie with me as long as I can, but I am not willing to torture her becuase I would not want to be tortured if it were me. I am just so overwhelmed and so devistated right now, I can't even think straight! One vet had mentioned interferon injections to boost her immune system. I am considering looking into those, but I don't know if it would be more tortuous to put my kitty through injections or have her get sick all the time... Does anyone have any experience with interferon? Thanks for listening! Jen
Re: new diagnosis
Jen, Here are some old emails from this list: 1. I started Smokey on immuno-regulan last Wednesday. Herecieved shots for 4 days and then 2 shots per week. His problem was a recurring fever. So far he is feverfree. He has been eating good and playing. He isalso taking Baytril and Clavamox but I think theimmuno-regulan has helped him with his fevers. I amkeeping my fingers crossed. This has been the 1stweek in over a month that we haven't had to make atrip to the vet or go in as an emergency.Cindy 2. Hi all, Hope you are all doing well these days...I have been sort of out of touch the last month. Just wanted to give you all an update on my Bandy.. His last vet visit was a few weeks ago and his PCV was holding at 27. He has gained another 4oz. so he is up to 7# 2oz. which is almost his top weight...He is looking good and eating well. We are on interferon alpha daily and 1/2cc baytril still...I don't know how long he will have to be on that as he has been on it for months now.. I am alternating supplements too..I just want to make sure he keeps eating good so I just rotate things around for now...I give him Co Q 10, bone meal powder, bovine colostrum, Vit.E 400 weekly, omega fatty acids (missing link version), and astragalus. He went 2 weeks without the temp going up but then it jumped to 105.2 again so I give him .75mg of a dex pill.. then the temp will go back to normal...We still haven't figured out anything about that other than it is due to inflammation..He also gets a fill once daily for that which is for arthritis in cats...I still believe the fever is due to his previous leg injury in 2001 and has something to do with infection in the bone, but the vets don't know. I am going to try to get them to treat him as if he had a bone infection to see if that might not remedy the problem.. Any ideas on that would be appreciated... My best to you all and your kittes, Kerry and Bandy In a message dated 5/4/2006 3:29:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My 10 year old domestic short hair just got diagnosed with FIV and FELV last week. She was lethargic, not eating and drinking, etc which is why I brought her in and how we found out the diagnosis. She ended up with a 105.9 fever and was hospitalized for several days with IV fluids and antibiotics. The fever broke and she came home on Friday night. She has been an outdoor cat all her life (I adopted her 4 1/2 years ago) and she is now an indoor cat due to the diagnoses. We were just back at the vet today because she is limping and I didn't know what was wrong with her leg. Turns out the leg is fine, but her temp is 106.9!!! They gave her some subcutaneous fluid and an injection to bring down the fever and let me take her home as long as I monitor her temp hourly. The vet said it is all from the FELV virus, but I'm wondering if this is how the whole rest of her life is going to be- constant trips to the vet for high fevers, dehydration, fluids and medication. I want my cat to be happy and comfortable. Allie is truly like my child and I am completely devistated. I find myself watching her like a hawk now, and spending every waking moment with her not knowing if I have one more day, one more week or one more year. I have done a lot of research, but because I don't know how long she has had the disease it's hard to know what's going to happen-- I thought she had kicked this infection and it turns out she hadn't... Anyone else experienced these unremitting fevers and infections? Does this mean it is close to the end? I obviously want to have Allie with me as long as I can, but I am not willing to torture her becuase I would not want to be tortured if it were me. I am just so overwhelmed and so devistated right now, I can't even think straight! One vet had mentioned interferon injections to boost her immune system. I am considering looking into those, but I don't know if it would be more tortuous to put my kitty through injections or have her get sick all the time... Does anyone have any experience with interferon? Thanks for listening! Jen
Re: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty
Hi All, Bailey is not doing well today, he seems to to really be nauseated and even threw up on his second feeding right when I started. I waited a while and did manage to feed him, but on his third feeding I think he had a convulsion or a seizure. I was sitting on the couch feeding, he was in his bed and all of a sudden he started flopping around in there, it was so quick, I barely saw what happened. It looked like he was contorting and had no control, kind of arching his back. It only lasted maybe 5 seconds so I'm not sure what happened, but it was definitely something he didn't have control over. Now he is breathing a bit fast, not too bad, I have an appointment tomorrow morning. I'm just worried he aspirated some food. I just called my vet and she is coming in early to see him. I am not feeding him anymore tonight. We could sure use some prayers. Thanks all ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty
Bless you and Bailey. May the angels watch over you both and bring you peace. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:25 AM Subject: Re: appropriate calorie in take for a kitty Hi All, Bailey is not doing well today, he seems to to really be nauseated and even threw up on his second feeding right when I started. I waited a while and did manage to feed him, but on his third feeding I think he had a convulsion or a seizure. I was sitting on the couch feeding, he was in his bed and all of a sudden he started flopping around in there, it was so quick, I barely saw what happened. It looked like he was contorting and had no control, kind of arching his back. It only lasted maybe 5 seconds so I'm not sure what happened, but it was definitely something he didn't have control over. Now he is breathing a bit fast, not too bad, I have an appointment tomorrow morning. I'm just worried he aspirated some food. I just called my vet and she is coming in early to see him. I am not feeding him anymore tonight. We could sure use some prayers. Thanks all ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
