Allergic-type reaction to EVO?

2006-06-01 Thread jenmeyer
Hi All!

As the title suggests, I'm wondering if anyone who uses Innova EVO dry
has noticed any type of allergic-type reactions in their cats?  I've
been desperately trying to figure out what it is that is making
Sleepypants so sneezy/watery-eyed/unable to breathe propery, etc.!  I
pretty much had chalked it up to inhalant allergies when, on a whim (and
why I didn't think of this sooner, I'll never know), I switched out the
cats' dry food to Solid Gold just for a change.  About two weeks later,
I noticed that SP's symptoms were lessening and now (after about 3-4
weeks on Solid Gold) he's completely symptom-free!  I also noticed that
Lola, who also suffered a bit w/ watery eyes, has become symptom-free at
about the same rate!

I'm not sure what to make of it as I always thought food allergies
manifested themselves differently (itchy/flaky skin...although I have
noticed that SP's fur has greatly improved over the slightly
greasy/dandruffy coat he had while on EVO)...I'm trying to figure out
whether or not something in the food can cause eye/nose/respiratory
issues?  I guess the only way to know for sure whether it was the food
would be to try EVO again for about 6 weeks and see what happens...but
SP and Lola just look so good, I don't want to stop whatever it is I'm
doing right!  ;)

So for a start, I'd like to ask around and see if anyone else has had a
problem with EVO?

Thanks, guys!

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan
George

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Re: Allergic-type reaction to EVO?

2006-06-01 Thread Ashleigh Smith
Bella didn't do so well on EVO either--runny, lethal poops when she ate it. I use California Naturals now, and she's thriving. The vet told me that she's one of the healthiest cats he's ever seen. I also use a little Omega 3 supplement on her food. (I am a big believer in that stuff. I take the human capsules, and I use some Omega 3 that I got from the vet for Bella's food. Her coat is absolutely fabulous, especially considering the hot weather here.Have you considered that either seasonal allergies or an allergy to cat litter dust might be the problem?~Ashleigh[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi All!As the title suggests, I'm wondering if anyone who uses Innova EVO dryhas noticed any type of allergic-type reactions in their cats? I'vebeen desperately trying to figure out what it is that is makingSleepypants so sneezy/watery-eyed/unable to breathe propery, etc.! Ipretty much had chalked it up to inhalant allergies when, on a whim (andwhy I didn't think of this sooner, I'll never know), I switched out thecats' dry food to Solid Gold just for a change. About two weeks later,I noticed that SP's symptoms were lessening and now (after about 3-4weeks on Solid Gold) he's completely symptom-free! I also noticed thatLola, who also suffered a bit w/ watery eyes, has become symptom-free atabout the same rate!I'm not sure what to make of it as I always thought food allergiesmanifested themselves differently (itchy/flaky
 skin...although I havenoticed that SP's fur has greatly improved over the slightlygreasy/dandruffy coat he had while on EVO)...I'm trying to figure outwhether or not something in the food can cause eye/nose/respiratoryissues? I guess the only way to know for sure whether it was the foodwould be to try EVO again for about 6 weeks and see what happens...butSP and Lola just look so good, I don't want to stop whatever it is I'mdoing right! ;)So for a start, I'd like to ask around and see if anyone else has had aproblem with EVO?Thanks, guys!Jen"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach
 other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief DanGeorge"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..." --Blade Runner
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Re: Allergic-type reaction to EVO?

2006-06-01 Thread jenmeyer
Yeah, the vet and I had chalked it up to seasonal allergies...but after
seeing the improvement in SP's coat, I have to think that there's at
least a food link there...litter dust could be another factor that I
hadn't considered with Lola as I just switched litters, I think, just
before I noticed an improvement with her symptoms.  SP developed his
symptoms around late January which is still a little early for seasonal,
but certainly not out of the question for Houston, TX!  ;)

Perhaps there are two issues going on:  food allergies and
seasonal/litter (inhalant) allergies?  I'm having a difficult time
believing that the food would affect respiratory/eyes...so I'll indeed
stick with the new litter I bought (also on a whim simply because I
couldn't get to Sam's to get their usual litter)!  Can cats suddenly
develop allergies to things they've been exposed to most of their lives?



But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan
George

The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long... --Blade Runner

- Original Message -
From: Ashleigh Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, June 1, 2006 9:39 am
Subject: Re: Allergic-type reaction to EVO?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Bella didn't do so well on EVO either--runny, lethal poops when she 
 ate it.  I use California Naturals now, and she's thriving.  The 
 vet told me that she's one of the healthiest cats he's ever seen.  
 I also use a little Omega 3 supplement on her food.  (I am a big 
 believer in that stuff.  I take the human capsules, and I use some 
 Omega 3 that I got from the vet for Bella's food.  Her coat is 
 absolutely fabulous, especially considering the hot weather here.
   
  Have you considered that either seasonal allergies or an allergy 
 to cat litter dust might be the problem?
   
  ~Ashleigh
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All!
 
 As the title suggests, I'm wondering if anyone who uses Innova EVO dry
 has noticed any type of allergic-type reactions in their cats? I've
 been desperately trying to figure out what it is that is making
 Sleepypants so sneezy/watery-eyed/unable to breathe propery, etc.! I
 pretty much had chalked it up to inhalant allergies when, on a whim 
 (andwhy I didn't think of this sooner, I'll never know), I switched 
 out the
 cats' dry food to Solid Gold just for a change. About two weeks later,
 I noticed that SP's symptoms were lessening and now (after about 3-4
 weeks on Solid Gold) he's completely symptom-free! I also noticed that
 Lola, who also suffered a bit w/ watery eyes, has become symptom-
 free at
 about the same rate!
 
 I'm not sure what to make of it as I always thought food allergies
 manifested themselves differently (itchy/flaky skin...although I have
 noticed that SP's fur has greatly improved over the slightly
 greasy/dandruffy coat he had while on EVO)...I'm trying to figure out
 whether or not something in the food can cause eye/nose/respiratory
 issues? I guess the only way to know for sure whether it was the food
 would be to try EVO again for about 6 weeks and see what happens...but
 SP and Lola just look so good, I don't want to stop whatever it is I'm
 doing right! ;)
 
 So for a start, I'd like to ask around and see if anyone else has 
 had a
 problem with EVO?
 
 Thanks, guys!
 
 Jen
 
 
 But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
 unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the 
 world; You
 become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
 Saint-Exupéry
 
 If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
 each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
 whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --
 Chief Dan
 George
 
 The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long... --
 Blade Runner
 
 
 
 
   
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Re: Allergic-type reaction to EVO?

2006-06-01 Thread Nina

Hello my dear Jen,
Ya know, I mentioned briefly in my post to Lance about fleas/advantage 
that Star and Spence have been having extreme itchy skin problems.  I 
have the house on EVO too and now I'm wondering if that could be a 
contributing factor.  I'll switch them to Solid Gold and see if it 
helps.  I don't know if food allergies can manifest as URI type 
symptoms.  Usually I would suspect diarrhea, or skin problems if it's 
from food.  Do humans get URI symptoms with food allergies, or is it 
just inhalant type reactions?  If it were me and my guys were showing 
improvement, I wouldn't dare test it and switch them back to either 
the EVO or old litter!  As far as suddenly developing allergic 
reactions to things they previously had no problems with, I know that 
happens with humans, so I suspect it's possible with felines too.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yeah, the vet and I had chalked it up to seasonal allergies...but after
seeing the improvement in SP's coat, I have to think that there's at
least a food link there...litter dust could be another factor that I
hadn't considered with Lola as I just switched litters, I think, just
before I noticed an improvement with her symptoms.  SP developed his
symptoms around late January which is still a little early for seasonal,
but certainly not out of the question for Houston, TX!  ;)

Perhaps there are two issues going on:  food allergies and
seasonal/litter (inhalant) allergies?  I'm having a difficult time
believing that the food would affect respiratory/eyes...so I'll indeed
stick with the new litter I bought (also on a whim simply because I
couldn't get to Sam's to get their usual litter)!  Can cats suddenly
develop allergies to things they've been exposed to most of their lives?






Re: Allergic-type reaction to EVO?

2006-06-01 Thread Ashleigh Smith
I would think that allergies could develop at any time. That's how it works with people, anyway.~Ashleigh[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Yeah, the vet and I had chalked it up to seasonal allergies...but afterseeing the improvement in SP's coat, I have to think that there's atleast a food link there...litter dust could be another factor that Ihadn't considered with Lola as I just switched litters, I think, justbefore I noticed an improvement with her symptoms. SP developed hissymptoms around late January which is still a little early for seasonal,but certainly not out of the question for Houston, TX! ;)Perhaps
 there are two issues going on: food allergies andseasonal/litter (inhalant) allergies? I'm having a difficult timebelieving that the food would affect respiratory/eyes...so I'll indeedstick with the new litter I bought (also on a whim simply because Icouldn't get to Sam's to get their usual litter)! Can cats suddenlydevelop allergies to things they've been exposed to most of their lives?"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief DanGeorge"The flame that burns twice
 as bright burns half as long..." --Blade Runner- Original Message -From: Ashleigh Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Thursday, June 1, 2006 9:39 amSubject: Re: Allergic-type reaction to EVO?To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Bella didn't do so well on EVO either--runny, lethal poops when she  ate it. I use California Naturals now, and she's thriving. The  vet told me that she's one of the healthiest cats he's ever seen.  I also use a little Omega 3 supplement on her food. (I am a big  believer in that stuff. I take the human capsules, and I use some  Omega 3 that I got from the vet for Bella's food. Her coat is  absolutely fabulous, especially considering the hot weather here.  Have you considered that either seasonal allergies or an allergy  to cat litter dust might be the problem?  ~Ashleigh  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: Hi All!  As the title suggests, I'm wondering if anyone who uses Innova EVO dry has noticed any type of allergic-type reactions in their cats? I've been desperately trying to figure out what it is that is making Sleepypants so sneezy/watery-eyed/unable to breathe propery, etc.! I pretty much had chalked it up to inhalant allergies when, on a whim  (andwhy I didn't think of this sooner, I'll never know), I switched  out the cats' dry food to Solid Gold just for a change. About two weeks later, I noticed that SP's symptoms were lessening and now (after about 3-4 weeks on Solid Gold) he's completely symptom-free! I also noticed that Lola, who also suffered a bit w/ watery eyes, has become symptom- free at about the same rate!  I'm not sure what to make of it as I always thought food allergies manifested themselves differently
 (itchy/flaky skin...although I have noticed that SP's fur has greatly improved over the slightly greasy/dandruffy coat he had while on EVO)...I'm trying to figure out whether or not something in the food can cause eye/nose/respiratory issues? I guess the only way to know for sure whether it was the food would be to try EVO again for about 6 weeks and see what happens...but SP and Lola just look so good, I don't want to stop whatever it is I'm doing right! ;)  So for a start, I'd like to ask around and see if anyone else has  had a problem with EVO?  Thanks, guys!  Jen   "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the  world; You become responsible, forever, for what you
 have tamed..." --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry  "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and  whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." -- Chief Dan George  "The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..." -- Blade Runner  - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC  and save big.
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Re: Mowgli

2006-06-01 Thread Nina




I'm sorry to hear about Mowgli. So many sweet little Angel babies :( .
Nina

Sherry DeHaan wrote:

  Could we add sweet little Mowgli to the CLS,we lost him this
morning.Mini is still fighting and Lorelie is feeling a bit better as
is Rupert.Thanks for all the prayers
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re: Mowgli

2006-06-01 Thread Carla Shoppe
Sherry

I am sorry that you lost your sweet Mowgli. My heart goes out 
to you

Carla


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 14:40:32 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Mowgli
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Could we add sweet little Mowgli to the CLS,we lost him this 
morning.Mini is still fighting and Lorelie is feeling a bit 
better as is Rupert.Thanks for all the prayers
  Sherry




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  - Original Message - 
  From: Carla Shoppe 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:47 
  PM
  Subject: re: Mowgli
  SherryI am sorry that you lost your sweet Mowgli. My 
  heart goes out to youCarlaMessage: 3Date: Wed, 31 
  May 2006 14:40:32 -0700 (PDT)From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  MowgliTo: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: 
  text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"Could we add sweet little Mowgli to 
  the CLS,we lost him this morning.Mini is still fighting and Lorelie is 
  feeling a bit better as is Rupert.Thanks for all the prayers 
  Sherry


Re: prayers needed for Ember

2006-06-01 Thread Nina

Lance,
Of course you have my prayers and good thoughts that Ember gets over 
whatever this is quickly.  Take a deep breath.  The fact that she's 
eating is a good sign.  I can tell you for sure that it is not the 
extra cc of interferon.  It might be a reaction to the Advantage...  
She had no reaction on Tues or Wed?  Is it possible that she could have 
gotten into something else last night or this morning?  Does she have a 
temp?  Can you take her temp at home if her ears feel very hot to you?  
Is she listless?  Are her eyes bright?  Does her tummy feel hard to 
you?  Do you know how to palpate her abdomen to see if you feel anything 
abnormal?  You haven't given her any new treats or types of food 
lately?  Did you bring a new plant or cut flowers in the house?  What 
does your vet say about the delayed reaction, does he suspect that it's 
the Advantage?

Nina

Lance wrote:

Ember suddenly isn't doing well. I woke up this morning to hear her  
in her box. There was a moist bm awaiting me, but nothing odd. Not  
long after that, she went to the box again, and this time, it was  
obvious that she had diarrhea. I cleaned her up a bit. Not long after  
that, she threw up a small hair ball, and then a bit more. It was  
pretty much just bile and fur. I stayed home from work to watch her.  
She's gone to the box one or two more times, but I can't tell what's  
actually come out. I fed her some yogurt, which she ate with her  
normal appetite. After a nap, she got up and threw some of that up,  
too. This really alarmed me.


Ember had an extra dose of interferon alpha last night (we  
accidentally did six days in a row instead of the normal five days),  
but I wouldn't think an extra 1cc of that would cause this problem.  
I'm thinking it's the Advantage dose we put on her Tuesday night. I  
noticed that her neck fur was back to normal this morning (not crusty  
from the application), so it sure seems like she's been poisoned,  
hopefully in a very mild way, if at all. We're going to the vet, but  
I just don't know what she can do. Since Ember's felv+, I really want  
to keep all the stress off of her that I can. I don't see any way  
around going to the vet, though.


I ask your prayers for Ember, that she will get over this easily and  
feel better tomorrow, and that this will not cause any problems in  
her overall health.


Thank you,

Lance








Re: prayers needed for Ember

2006-06-01 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Lance you have many prayers coming from me,I hope she is feeling better soon.  SherryLance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Ember suddenly isn't doing well. I woke up this morning to hear her in her box. There was a moist bm awaiting me, but nothing odd. Not long after that, she went to the box again, and this time, it was obvious that she had diarrhea. I cleaned her up a bit. Not long after that, she threw up a small hair ball, and then a bit more. It was pretty much just bile and fur. I stayed home from work to watch her. She's gone to the box one or two more times, but I can't tell what's actually come out. I fed her some yogurt, which she ate with her normal appetite. After a nap, she got up and threw some of that up, too. This really alarmed me.Ember had an extra dose of
 interferon alpha last night (we accidentally did six days in a row instead of the normal five days), but I wouldn't think an extra 1cc of that would cause this problem. I'm thinking it's the Advantage dose we put on her Tuesday night. I noticed that her neck fur was back to normal this morning (not crusty from the application), so it sure seems like she's been poisoned, hopefully in a very mild way, if at all. We're going to the vet, but I just don't know what she can do. Since Ember's felv+, I really want to keep all the stress off of her that I can. I don't see any way around going to the vet, though.I ask your prayers for Ember, that she will get over this easily and feel better tomorrow, and that this will not cause any problems in her overall health.Thank you,Lance
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RE: prayers needed for Ember

2006-06-01 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Lance, I will be praying that Ember feels
better soon. I would personally like to discourage all the flea/ticks drugs out
there (advantages.. frontline ..etc..) My holistic vet warned me not to use on
my cats at all due to toxicity level I am hoping that whatever she is
going through is an reaction from it and she will get rid of it very soon.



Please keep us posted.



Hideyo











From:
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Ember







Lance you have many prayers coming from me,I hope she is feeling better
soon.





Sherry

Lance
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Ember suddenly isn't
doing well. I woke up this morning to hear her 
in her box. There was a moist bm awaiting me, but nothing odd. Not 
long after that, she went to the box again, and this time, it was 
obvious that she had diarrhea. I cleaned her up a bit. Not long after 
that, she threw up a small hair ball, and then a bit more. It was 
pretty much just bile and fur. I stayed home from work to watch her. 
She's gone to the box one or two more times, but I can't tell what's 
actually come out. I fed her some yogurt, which she ate with her 
normal appetite. After a nap, she got up and threw some of that up, 
too. This really alarmed me.

Ember had an extra dose of interferon alpha last night (we 
accidentally did six days in a row instead of the normal five days), 
but I wouldn't think an extra 1cc of that would cause this problem. 
I'm thinking it's the Advantage dose we put on her Tuesday night. I 
noticed that her neck fur was back to normal this morning (not crusty 
from the application), so it sure seems like she's been poisoned, 
hopefully in a very mild way, if at all. We're going to the vet, but 
I just don't know what she can do. Since Ember's felv+, I really want 
to keep all the stress off of her that I can. I don't see any way 
around going to the vet, though.

I ask your prayers for Ember, that she will get over this easily and 
feel better tomorrow, and that this will not cause any problems in 
her overall health.

Thank you,

Lance











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Re: Allergic-type reaction to EVO?--Nina

2006-06-01 Thread jenmeyer
Hi Nina!

I certainly don't want to dog EVO as, I believe, it's a step in the
right direction...but I will tell you, and please forgive my highly
scientific opinion... ;)  but when I opened the bag of Solid Gold, the
thing that really stuck in my mind was the smell...it just smelled
*good!*  EVO always smelled kinda heavy and greasy to me...maybe it's
the way they have to preserve it, or maybe it's the higher meat content,
I'm not sure.  But I've certainly noticed a difference in SP's
fur...it's not as greasy and there's much less dandruff than there used
to be.  But, like you, I'm only having an issue with a couple of the
kids...the others seem to tolerate EVO just fine (although I would argue
that I've seen an improvement with all of their coats since switching to
Solid Gold...everybody seems to be much softer)!  :)  I suspect that
Solid Gold might contain fewer allergens as the protein source is lamb
as opposed to beef or chicken...I was also wondering about Rosemary
extract as I c
ould've sworn that I had read somewhere that that can be an allergen
(which EVO has as a preservative), but I can't find that source
anywhere...Anyhoo, can you tell I have a little too much time on my
hands right now?  ;)

But I think I'll take your advice and just keep doing what I'm doing! 
Hope all is well with your gang!  How is Star doing besides the itchy
skin?  Chatty's made himself at home, but we're battling a nasty case of
stomatitis right now...fortunately, he's the perfect candidate to try
out my cat toothbrushing skills on (or lack thereof) as soon as the
inflamation starts subsiding!  :)

Take care,

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan
George

The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long... --Blade Runner

- Original Message -
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, June 1, 2006 11:28 am
Subject: Re: Allergic-type reaction to EVO?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Hello my dear Jen,
 Ya know, I mentioned briefly in my post to Lance about 
 fleas/advantage 
 that Star and Spence have been having extreme itchy skin problems.  
 I 
 have the house on EVO too and now I'm wondering if that could be a 
 contributing factor.  I'll switch them to Solid Gold and see if it 
 helps.  I don't know if food allergies can manifest as URI type 
 symptoms.  Usually I would suspect diarrhea, or skin problems if 
 it's 
 from food.  Do humans get URI symptoms with food allergies, or is 
 it 
 just inhalant type reactions?  If it were me and my guys were 
 showing 
 improvement, I wouldn't dare test it and switch them back to 
 either 
 the EVO or old litter!  As far as suddenly developing allergic 
 reactions to things they previously had no problems with, I know 
 that 
 happens with humans, so I suspect it's possible with felines too.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Yeah, the vet and I had chalked it up to seasonal allergies...but 
 afterseeing the improvement in SP's coat, I have to think that 
 there's at
 least a food link there...litter dust could be another factor that I
 hadn't considered with Lola as I just switched litters, I think, just
 before I noticed an improvement with her symptoms.  SP developed his
 symptoms around late January which is still a little early for 
 seasonal,but certainly not out of the question for Houston, TX!  ;)
 
 Perhaps there are two issues going on:  food allergies and
 seasonal/litter (inhalant) allergies?  I'm having a difficult time
 believing that the food would affect respiratory/eyes...so I'll 
 indeedstick with the new litter I bought (also on a whim simply 
 because I
 couldn't get to Sam's to get their usual litter)!  Can cats suddenly
 develop allergies to things they've been exposed to most of their 
 lives?
 




RE: prayers needed for Ember

2006-06-01 Thread Ntigat
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Re: prayers needed for Ember

2006-06-01 Thread Lance
Thank you for your prayers for Ember. I really appreciate that others  
are pulling for her. She drank some water several times, and I  
actually got her to play some before she went to the vet. While  
there's no way for the vet to really know why this happened to Ember,  
she thinks it could have been due to the Advantage, which I will  
never use again on any animal of mine. Ember did not have a fever,  
which is good. She was given an injection, which I think might have  
been Centrine, and we were given several Centrine tablets for later  
use. One must be given in the morning, then we'll figure out if she  
needs anymore of them from there. She also doesn't get food for a  
bit, and the dry food is out of the picture for a bit longer than the  
canned. Ember seems to be acting much closer to normal. I'm still  
watchful and concerned, and I will be until all's clear.



Lance




Re: prayers needed for Ember

2006-06-01 Thread ETrent




Thank you for the update. I'm so glad she seems better. Prayers 
still going up for her.

elizabeth

In a message dated 6/1/2006 6:37:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thank 
  you for your prayers for Ember. I really appreciate that others are 
  pulling for her. She drank some water several times, and I actually 
  got her to play some before she went to the vet. While there's no 
  way for the vet to really know why this happened to Ember, she 
  thinks it could have been due to the Advantage, which I will never 
  use again on any animal of mine. Ember did not have a fever, which 
  is good. She was given an injection, which I think might have been 
  Centrine, and we were given several Centrine tablets for later use. 
  One must be given in the morning, then we'll figure out if she needs 
  anymore of them from there. She also doesn't get food for a bit, and 
  the dry food is out of the picture for a bit longer than the canned. 
  Ember seems to be acting much closer to normal. I'm still watchful 
  and concerned, and I will be until all's 
clear.Lance




Re: Allergic-type reaction to EVO?

2006-06-01 Thread Lernermichelle



I haven't, but every cat is different. There has been a weather change in 
recent weeks too, at least where I am, so it could be plant-related. I am not 
sure, but I think the symptoms you are describing could potentially be food 
allergies, though. Anyway, I agree with you-- don't change anything now that 
they are better! :)
Michelle


Re: prayers needed for Ember

2006-06-01 Thread Lernermichelle




I definitely do not think it was the interferon. It is good she still has 
an appetite. Please let us know what the vet says.
sending prayers,
Michelle

In a message dated 6/1/2006 3:11:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ember 
  suddenly isn't doing well. I woke up this morning to hear her in her 
  box. There was a moist bm awaiting me, but nothing odd. Not long 
  after that, she went to the box again, and this time, it was obvious 
  that she had diarrhea. I cleaned her up a bit. Not long after that, 
  she threw up a small hair ball, and then a bit more. It was pretty 
  much just bile and fur. I stayed home from work to watch her. She's 
  gone to the box one or two more times, but I can't tell what's 
  actually come out. I fed her some yogurt, which she ate with her 
  normal appetite. After a nap, she got up and threw some of that up, 
  too. This really alarmed me.Ember had an extra dose of interferon 
  alpha last night (we accidentally did six days in a row instead of 
  the normal five days), but I wouldn't think an extra 1cc of that 
  would cause this problem. I'm thinking it's the Advantage dose we 
  put on her Tuesday night. I noticed that her neck fur was back to 
  normal this morning (not crusty from the application), so it sure 
  seems like she's been poisoned, hopefully in a very mild way, if at 
  all. We're going to the vet, but I just don't know what she can do. 
  Since Ember's felv+, I really want to keep all the stress off of her 
  that I can. I don't see any way around going to the vet, 
  though.I ask your prayers for Ember, that she will get over this 
  easily and feel better tomorrow, and that this will not cause any 
  problems in her overall health.Thank 
you,Lance




Re: prayers needed for Ember

2006-06-01 Thread Terri Brown




More positive vibes coming your way for her.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Lance 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:37 
  PM
  Subject: Re: prayers needed for 
  Ember
  Thank you for your prayers for Ember. I really appreciate that 
  others are pulling for her. She drank some water several times, and 
  I actually got her to play some before she went to the vet. 
  While there's no way for the vet to really know why this happened to 
  Ember, she thinks it could have been due to the Advantage, which I 
  will never use again on any animal of mine. Ember did not have a 
  fever, which is good. She was given an injection, which I think 
  might have been Centrine, and we were given several Centrine tablets 
  for later use. One must be given in the morning, then we'll figure 
  out if she needs anymore of them from there. She also doesn't get 
  food for a bit, and the dry food is out of the picture for a bit 
  longer than the canned. Ember seems to be acting much closer to 
  normal. I'm still watchful and concerned, and I will be until all's 
  clear.Lance


Re: Allergic-type reaction to EVO?

2006-06-01 Thread felv
It's certainly possible, cats do have food allergies. Mine do fine on EVO, but 
each
cat is different!

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Re: Check out Shelter kills five puppies by mistake|TheNewsTribune.com | Ta...

2006-06-01 Thread felv



You can get a spay done around here for $40 if you go through a low cost 
program. Really... that "humane society" needs to do some serious re-thinking of 
their name.
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Re: FIV resources

2006-06-01 Thread felv



I have one up for adoption too... they are hard to place.
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Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE 
TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when 
someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat 
Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good 
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Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

2006-06-01 Thread felv
I would treat them all if they have been exposed to the dog which is known to 
have
fleas. Frontline is a good choice. I would NOT use Revolution in a immune 
compromised
cat. I assume by black nits you mean the black flecks you see in/on the coat, 
also
sometimes called flea dirt. It's actually dried BLOOD from the flea bites. If 
it's
enough for you to SEE it without digging through the coat, the dog is indeed 
INFESTED
BADLY and being EATEN ALIVE by this point.

Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)
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http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:
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PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire 
around
his neck to strangle him,
Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find 
him a
good home!
http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html
DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera 
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Re: speaking of special needs.....update

2006-06-01 Thread felv
wonderful! I'm so glad to hear he's doing so well!

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Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:
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PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire 
around
his neck to strangle him,
Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find 
him a
good home!
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Re: New to group/ Conflicting information

2006-06-01 Thread felv



There's no website that I know of, but this group here IS the fore-most 
group of experts on the web!

My advice, test, quarantine, retest in one month, then againin 
2months (3 months total quarantine time), if ALL come back negative, then 
it's pretty much safe (this is for ALL things, not just FELV). Lice too, eggs 
hatch after treatments, so you'll need to REtreat for that at least once, your 
vet can determine the type of lice, and the egg cycle, so you will know WHEN to 
do it again.

Personally, I quarantine for 2 weeks, and then introduce slowly through a 
cage, not getting full introduction for over a month, but I'm not too quarantine 
happy, nor am I too concerned with "mixing" because I know the rates of 
transmission of FELV between adult cats is almost nonexistent to the point of 
practically impossible. I'm 10 times more concerned with getting a upper 
respiratory infection (or fleas and worms) passing around than FELV!
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TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when 
someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat 
Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good 
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Re: new needing help

2006-06-01 Thread felv
Just to add, by good diet we mean a GOOD ultra-premium kitten food, such as
Wellness, Innova, Chicken Soup, or another super-premium brand, or homemade food
(with all required supplements added). Iams, Pro-Plan, and Diamond are NOT good
diets. Purina, Friskies, Kitten Chow, etc are JUNK.

Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire 
around
his neck to strangle him,
Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find 
him a
good home!
http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html
DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera 
(for
pictures), and more towels!



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Re: Pekoe is gone .....

2006-06-01 Thread felv



I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Peace has found Pekoe, he struggles no 
more with this dreaded virus. May you find peace in time too, Marlene.

Sorry I am late on this...
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Re: test results

2006-06-01 Thread felv
NO, in house tests are commonly wrong to begin with.. and for true test results 
on
kittens from a positive momma, they need to be at least 6 months old when 
tested.
Then retest at 9 months and at one year before making any decisions. Confirm all
tests with IFA if you can afford it, but at least confirm the 9 month test with 
IFA.

Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire 
around
his neck to strangle him,
Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find 
him a
good home!
http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html
DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera 
(for
pictures), and more towels!



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