Re: Wherefore art thou, Othello?
Cats are totally wonderful and ferals are the best of the wonderful. You are right not to lie to them. They remember. Re the finger: Even the surgeons didn't believe it. You should have heard the commotion it caused when I got to the hand surgeon's. Every resident in the place must have come to check it out and to see the x-rays. Looking back, a lot of it is funny. And I am very proud the cat stood up for herself. She is no whimp. Another thought--just for calming--put out fresh catnip. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:04 PM Subject: Re: Wherefore art thou, Othello? I'm so sorry about your finger! That's just terrible. I can't even imagine a bite so hard it would break the bone. I hope you don't have anymore problems with that. Very scary. Thank you for reminding me just how serious something like this can be. You probably got inoculated with a hefty dose of staff on top of everything else. Cat bites are the worst. I don't have any deep bites (mainly some ugly scratches) - but it is a wonder. I've scrubbed everything with peppermint salt scrubs (ouch) and put antibiotic cream on it. Not bleeding anymore. I am currently on antibiotics so hopefully that will help. Thank you very much for the tip on Feliway spray. I'm not familiar with it but I will look it up right away. I've heard about the plug-in thingies - but a spray sounds like just the thing. I think I have been forgiven. *sigh* I couldn't find him anywhere for several hours - and was so worried about him after he was so upset. His favorite thing though is to go on garage safari - so after the sun went down and things cooled off a bit, I opened the door from the laundry room to the garage. His buddies went in there to play and so it wasn't long before I peered in and saw him in his favorite spot. We made eye-contact and I told him how wonderful he is. He didn't run so I was content with that. Later, I did my usual routine and called them all telling them it was time to come in. He jumped up right away with the rest of them and went into the house, let me pet him and gave me a kitty kiss. He's camped out on top of the kitty condo now and being a darling. I'm convinced that you never know all there is to know about cats and their psychology. That is one of the things that is so interesting and intriguing about them, I suppose. Here's his picture. Why do I have a white cat named Othello? Well...because until I took him to get 'neutered' (or so I thought..) his name was Ophelia LOL. He truly is the mighty hunter - and will one day be one of the sweetest angels. Now if I can just get him to hunt something besides my arm and my head... http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/othello/MVC-059F.JPG Thank you for the help and for letting me ramble on. In a message dated 6/30/2006 9:59:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try Feliway spray...forget the stuff you plug in the wall...and spray where the cats are, the taxi, bedding in the taxi, you, everything (a little spray will do just over everything). As far as you are concerned, keep an eye on all the bite and scratch marks. I had a small feral bite a finger (and do a lot of other things). I immediately went to the ER. She had broken the finger. Two surgeries later every thing is ok but, even with antibiotics IV within minutes, literally, of the incident, the finger got really infected. It was a mess. Be very careful. (FYI: the litter feral was spayed, stayed extra time at the vet's to make sure she did not have rabies, and was released). If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: ot: Wherefore art thou, Othello?
Re: Wherefore art thou, Othello? (bandaid hints)
Thank you very much, Phaewryn, for taking the time to write this out. This is very good information...and I can see very well that it was born of painful experience. I'm printing this out to keep it handy...and shopping tomorrow for bactine and Nextcare Comfort strips. I keep a pretty good first aid kit otherwise - but these sounds like true necessities. Thank you for all you do for the kitties. elizabeth In a message dated 6/30/2006 10:53:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I have an in-depth study of band-aids going on around here. I can offer my best tips: The Nexcare Comfort strips are the BEST bandaids made. They even make them in "Oh my god, I'm going to bleed to death" sizes. The huge 2x4" ones are awesome to keep on hand. If you need it bigger, use a gauze pad and cut the foot part of a nice snug fitting sock off, and use it as a armband/legband to hold it in place (I find my hands/arms usually get it the most, though I've had a few on my thighs too, as well as many face and chest ones). I have permanent scars from a few good ones. Here's the trick to get even the deepest cat scratches to heal in 3 days or less: 1. Clean it WELL when first done. Get in the shower if you have to, use antibacterial soap, and WASH it very thoroughly. You should be bleeding MORE after you are done than you were to begin with. 2. Get the Bactine liquid, the kind in the squeeze bottle, and blot at it with a cotton ball, this helps with the stinging. 3. Choose a bandaid that will completely cover the scratch, preferably one with the sticky part all the way around the pad, so it seals the medicine in, and the dirt out. 4. Use a generous glob of Neosporin on the scratch. 5. Squirt a bit of the Bactine liquid ONTO the bandaid pad, so it is WET, but just the pad is wet, don't over do it and get the adhesive part wet. 6. Apply the wet Bactine bandaid to the cut that is globbed with Neosporin. If your scratch looks gaping, like it might could use stitches, use the bandaid to pull the two side together, apply one side first, pull it over the wound and adhere the second side to the skin on the other side of the wound, but pull it tighter than you normally would, so it pulls the scratch closed as it covers it. 7. If you're dealing with a thigh scratch, take into consideration if you spend more time sitting, or standing, and apply the bandaid in the position you will be in most of the time, as the skin on the thighs moves a LOT from a sitting position to a standing one, and a bandaid applied while sitting will pucker once you stand up. Puckering is bad, because it mis-aligns the two wound edges by placing more tension on one side then the other. 8. Leave it on as long as it will stay on. If it comes loose, immediately make another one just like the first one. Sleep with it on, KEEP it covered and WET, if you shower/bathe, take it off as soon as you get in the tub (not before), and immediately dry the skin around it and reapply a new one as soon as you get out, it HAS to stay moist at all times. If it dries out, squirt some more Bactine on the outside of the pad (the Nexcare strips allow it to pass through to the pad from the back side if applied carefully). That's the trick. Wounds allowed to dry out form scabs, scabbed wounds heal slower than clean edged wounds (and they scar more). Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS!
Re: Wherefore art thou, Othello?
I'm so sorry about your finger! That's just terrible. I can't even imagine a bite so hard it would break the bone. I hope you don't have anymore problems with that. Very scary. Thank you for reminding me just how serious something like this can be. You probably got inoculated with a hefty dose of staff on top of everything else. Cat bites are the worst. I don't have any deep bites (mainly some ugly scratches) - but it is a wonder. I've scrubbed everything with peppermint salt scrubs (ouch) and put antibiotic cream on it. Not bleeding anymore. I am currently on antibiotics so hopefully that will help. Thank you very much for the tip on Feliway spray. I'm not familiar with it but I will look it up right away. I've heard about the plug-in thingies - but a spray sounds like just the thing. I think I have been forgiven. *sigh* I couldn't find him anywhere for several hours - and was so worried about him after he was so upset. His favorite thing though is to go on garage safari - so after the sun went down and things cooled off a bit, I opened the door from the laundry room to the garage. His buddies went in there to play and so it wasn't long before I peered in and saw him in his favorite spot. We made eye-contact and I told him how wonderful he is. He didn't run so I was content with that. Later, I did my usual routine and called them all telling them it was time to come in. He jumped up right away with the rest of them and went into the house, let me pet him and gave me a kitty kiss. He's camped out on top of the kitty condo now and being a darling. I'm convinced that you never know all there is to know about cats and their psychology. That is one of the things that is so interesting and intriguing about them, I suppose. Here's his picture. Why do I have a white cat named Othello? Well...because until I took him to get 'neutered' (or so I thought..) his name was Ophelia LOL. He truly is the mighty hunter - and will one day be one of the sweetest angels. Now if I can just get him to hunt something besides my arm and my head... http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/othello/MVC-059F.JPG Thank you for the help and for letting me ramble on. In a message dated 6/30/2006 9:59:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try Feliway spray...forget the stuff you plug in the wall...and spray where the cats are, the taxi, bedding in the taxi, you, everything (a little spray will do just over everything). As far as you are concerned, keep an eye on all the bite and scratch marks. I had a small feral bite a finger (and do a lot of other things). I immediately went to the ER. She had broken the finger. Two surgeries later every thing is ok but, even with antibiotics IV within minutes, literally, of the incident, the finger got really infected. It was a mess. Be very careful. (FYI: the litter feral was spayed, stayed extra time at the vet's to make sure she did not have rabies, and was released). If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: ot: Wherefore art thou, Othello? A bit of unpleasantness here. :-( I'm in the process of having all the babies tested and re-vaccinated since Mama Kitty is FeVL+. Five down - Three to go. So far everyone else has tested negative. Well...the babies are very sensitive to the appearance of the Pet Taxi in a room. Four of them were totally feral initially - and some of them took more than three months before I could even pet them. Eventually, they are the ones who made the decision that they wanted to live inside with me...and most of the time they are completely precious fuzzballs (as long as there are no other people). I thought getting the Pet Taxi out of the closet this morning before I went to work would give Othello time enough to settle down. Wrong. I guess my first mistake was actually telling him in a sweet voice this morning that we would go later but it would be ok. These guys know exactly what you are saying. He hid the minute I got it out this morning - and was hiding also when I came home this afternoon. Now I am true to my word to the kitties that I will never call them if it isn't something wonderful (and that is why I can herd eight c
Re: Wowie Update (FELV friendly vet listings)
We have a list of FELV friendly vets somewhere, you should add this vet's info to that list. I think Belinda hosts that webpage Belinda? Anyone know that webpage's URL? Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.7/379 - Release Date: 6/29/2006
Re: Wherefore art thou, Othello? (bandaid hints)
Well, I have an in-depth study of band-aids going on around here. I can offer my best tips: The Nexcare Comfort strips are the BEST bandaids made. They even make them in "Oh my god, I'm going to bleed to death" sizes. The huge 2x4" ones are awesome to keep on hand. If you need it bigger, use a gauze pad and cut the foot part of a nice snug fitting sock off, and use it as a armband/legband to hold it in place (I find my hands/arms usually get it the most, though I've had a few on my thighs too, as well as many face and chest ones). I have permanent scars from a few good ones. Here's the trick to get even the deepest cat scratches to heal in 3 days or less: 1. Clean it WELL when first done. Get in the shower if you have to, use antibacterial soap, and WASH it very thoroughly. You should be bleeding MORE after you are done than you were to begin with. 2. Get the Bactine liquid, the kind in the squeeze bottle, and blot at it with a cotton ball, this helps with the stinging. 3. Choose a bandaid that will completely cover the scratch, preferably one with the sticky part all the way around the pad, so it seals the medicine in, and the dirt out. 4. Use a generous glob of Neosporin on the scratch. 5. Squirt a bit of the Bactine liquid ONTO the bandaid pad, so it is WET, but just the pad is wet, don't over do it and get the adhesive part wet. 6. Apply the wet Bactine bandaid to the cut that is globbed with Neosporin. If your scratch looks gaping, like it might could use stitches, use the bandaid to pull the two side together, apply one side first, pull it over the wound and adhere the second side to the skin on the other side of the wound, but pull it tighter than you normally would, so it pulls the scratch closed as it covers it. 7. If you're dealing with a thigh scratch, take into consideration if you spend more time sitting, or standing, and apply the bandaid in the position you will be in most of the time, as the skin on the thighs moves a LOT from a sitting position to a standing one, and a bandaid applied while sitting will pucker once you stand up. Puckering is bad, because it mis-aligns the two wound edges by placing more tension on one side then the other. 8. Leave it on as long as it will stay on. If it comes loose, immediately make another one just like the first one. Sleep with it on, KEEP it covered and WET, if you shower/bathe, take it off as soon as you get in the tub (not before), and immediately dry the skin around it and reapply a new one as soon as you get out, it HAS to stay moist at all times. If it dries out, squirt some more Bactine on the outside of the pad (the Nexcare strips allow it to pass through to the pad from the back side if applied carefully). That's the trick. Wounds allowed to dry out form scabs, scabbed wounds heal slower than clean edged wounds (and they scar more). Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.7/379 - Release Date: 6/29/2006
Re: Wherefore art thou, Othello?
Try Feliway spray...forget the stuff
you plug in the wall...and spray where the cats are, the taxi, bedding in the
taxi, you, everything (a little spray will do just over everything).
As far as you are concerned, keep an
eye on all the bite and scratch marks. I had a small feral bite a finger
(and do a lot of other things). I immediately went to the ER. She
had broken the finger. Two surgeries later every thing is ok but, even
with antibiotics IV within minutes, literally, of the incident, the finger got
really infected. It was a mess. Be very careful. (FYI:
the litter feral was spayed, stayed extra time at the vet's to make sure she did
not have rabies, and was released).
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their fellow
man.
St. Francis
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 7:39 PM
Subject: ot: Wherefore art thou,
Othello?
A bit of unpleasantness here. :-(
I'm in the process of having all the babies tested and re-vaccinated
since Mama Kitty is FeVL+. Five down - Three to go. So far
everyone else has tested negative.
Well...the babies are very sensitive to the appearance of the Pet
Taxi in a room. Four of them were totally feral initially - and some of
them took more than three months before I could even pet them.
Eventually, they are the ones who made the decision that they wanted to live
inside with me...and most of the time they are completely precious fuzzballs
(as long as there are no other people).
I thought getting the Pet Taxi out of the closet this morning before I
went to work would give Othello time enough to settle down.
Wrong.
I guess my first mistake was actually telling him in a sweet voice
this morning that we would go later but it would be ok. These
guys know exactly what you are saying. He hid the minute I got it
out this morning - and was hiding also when I came home this afternoon.
Now I am true to my word to the kitties that I will never call
them if it isn't something wonderful (and that is why I can herd eight cats at
one time -- they come running). But - since this wasn't going to be much
fun, I had to hunt him down. I finally found him and caught him - but he
was so upset that he turned into a ball of teeth and claws out of sheer
terror.
I know he didn't mean to hurt me...I'm not too bloody but got it on the
side of my head and arms LOL. I'm not worried about me at bit...you
should see me when I work with my roses -- I'm just so worried about how
terrified he is.
I finally called the vet and told them what was going on. The male
vet tech assured me that if I couldn't get him calmed down then they really
would prefer that I not bring him in today LOL
I gave the all clear after that ("All Done!")...but he's still
hiding. I'm home Monday and they told me that if I can coax him to just
bring him in any time. I just need to work more with himand it
sounds like I need a few lessons too - even if I have been taking care of
kitties over 30 years.
You guys are going to think I'm nutty (that's ok :0)...but ever since I
read this article (Taming
Wild Cats With Tibetan Buddhist Chants ), I bought a CD of Tibetan Buddist
Chants and it really does help to calm down the ferals. Hey, why not? -
it's been known to tame tigers :0) I'm going to put some rescue remedy
in the water too. Any other suggestions? Insight into cat
psychology? Bandaids? I know with all the fireworks over the
weekend we're probably all going to have some very jumpy cats.
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Re: dehydration
If kitty is eating wet food, you don't need to be TOO concerned. Did you try the Hills A/D wet fod? Terri in NJ =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here --> www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: l.j. crabtree To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:42 PM Subject: dehydration hoow do y'all keep your kitlets hydrated when they don't seem to want to drink? i do syringe minnie some at thome, but have been having to take her 2 times a week or every other day for sub-Q fluids :( her appetite sucks as well but keep trying... how much water should you try to get into your cat daily? on days off it is easy but during the week it is tricky... LJ
Re: Wowie Update
Sounds like you've found a wonderful vet - I am so glad...and very glad too that Wowie is doing better! In a message dated 6/30/2006 8:01:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you everyone for your kind words and words of advice on Wowie's situation. Update...I spoke with another vet who was so helpful and knowledgable and asked him about the medications some had mentioned on the list and also asked him to explain things I didn't understand. I went to see him for a second opinion. He knew and was familiar with all that was recommended. I found out that the steroids my vet had given me for wowie were Prenisolone as Kris had mentioned NOT Prednisone. She did not give him an injection of this, but instead gave him the chewable bites which he took happily. This new doctor said not to think in terms of how long Wowie has but rather to take it day by day and help him best we can. He also said he has seen FLV cats in worse condition that have bounced back so always to have hope. I liked his attitude about the whole thing and felt more comfortable talking to him and asking him everything and anything and really felt he was so helpful so I'm sticking with him. He's going to take a look at his blood test results and he wants to do a IFA test because only an ELISA was done which I don't understand because the first thing that the first vet said to me when i told her an elisa was done was that she thought an IFA would be more helpful. So why did she do an ELISA again? I'm hoping for WOwie. He is eating again and he is more talkative and more active. Not yet back to his old self, but better than he was. Thank you so much everyone for everything and let me know anything, any input, advice, thoughts etc you may have as it has thus far been SO helpful!Hugs,RebeccaYesterday, Wowie was eating. He was also meowing again and more active. This means the
Wowie Update
Thank you everyone for your kind words and words of advice on Wowie's situation. Update...I spoke with another vet who was so helpful and knowledgable and asked him about the medications some had mentioned on the list and also asked him to explain things I didn't understand. I went to see him for a second opinion. He knew and was familiar with all that was recommended. I found out that the steroids my vet had given me for wowie were Prenisolone as Kris had mentioned NOT Prednisone. She did not give him an injection of this, but instead gave him the chewable bites which he took happily. This new doctor said not to think in terms of how long Wowie has but rather to take it day by day and help him best we can. He also said he has seen FLV cats in worse condition that have bounced back so always to have hope. I liked his attitude about the whole thing and felt more comfortable talking to him and asking him everything and anything and really felt he was so helpful so I'm sticking with him. He's going to take a look at his blood test results and he wants to do a IFA test because only an ELISA was done which I don't understand because the first thing that the first vet said to me when i told her an elisa was done was that she thought an IFA would be more helpful. So why did she do an ELISA again? I'm hoping for WOwie. He is eating again and he is more talkative and more active. Not yet back to his old self, but better than he was. Thank you so much everyone for everything and let me know anything, any input, advice, thoughts etc you may have as it has thus far been SO helpful! Hugs, Rebecca Yesterday, Wowie was eating. He was also meowing again and more active. This means the
Re: Was: How is Samantha today? / Now: cleaning up
Thanks, I appreciate your advice, and thanks for the good wishes and sympathy. I will clean up all the places she was, and throw out all her toys, as they're pretty worn, anyway. :( Julia On Friday, June 30, 2006, at 06:37 PM, Tracy Weese wrote: I'm not sure there is much chance of FeLV living on anything very long once the disease has been exposed to air and dried BUT I AM no expert. I have read from others that they typically do a thorough cleaning and either throw out toys (or keep them for keepsakes, but not other cats). I personally live with 4 FeLV+ cats and 6 negatives (and that number has been variable depending on rescue and losing cats for whatever reason) and do not separate anything (not food bowls, water, litter pans) but have never had a negative cat turn/become positive so I think the chances of any transfer, esp. after the affected cat has passed (and I'm sorry for your loss), is minimal. How wonderful you will give 2 new cats a loving home. Tracy [Original Message] From: Julia Hagstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Date: 6/30/2006 5:21:41 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, everyone, for all the support. I need to know what kind of cleaner to use, as I have been offered a kitty who is a month younger than Samantha was, and needs a home; her owner is moving to an apartment, where they don't allow pets. Also, I have a chance to get a really young kitten, as the lady behind the counter where a friend and I bowl has a cat who is about to give birth, so I might end up with 2 cats. I want to clean my house before any more cats come in to it, make sure there is NO chance of the FelV virus still being around. I am throwing out all of Samantha's toys, her food and water dishes, and, most especially, her litter box. What's a good cleaner to use??? Julia On Friday, June 30, 2006, at 07:40 AM, Terri Brown wrote: I can only echo Marylyn's words. Big hugs to you. Goodnight, sweet Samantha... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here --> www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her own but she needs to know that is ok with you and .well, she is very concerned about you and your welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know that you know she will remain around in spirit. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, "Please, help me!" I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! Julia On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have me
ot: Wherefore art thou, Othello?
A bit of unpleasantness here. :-(
I'm in the process of having all the babies tested and re-vaccinated since
Mama Kitty is FeVL+. Five down - Three to go. So far everyone
else has tested negative.
Well...the babies are very sensitive to the appearance of the Pet Taxi
in a room. Four of them were totally feral initially - and some of them
took more than three months before I could even pet them. Eventually, they
are the ones who made the decision that they wanted to live inside with me...and
most of the time they are completely precious fuzzballs (as long as there are no
other people).
I thought getting the Pet Taxi out of the closet this morning before I went
to work would give Othello time enough to settle down.
Wrong.
I guess my first mistake was actually telling him in a sweet voice
this morning that we would go later but it would be ok. These
guys know exactly what you are saying. He hid the minute I got it
out this morning - and was hiding also when I came home this afternoon.
Now I am true to my word to the kitties that I will never call
them if it isn't something wonderful (and that is why I can herd eight cats at
one time -- they come running). But - since this wasn't going to be much
fun, I had to hunt him down. I finally found him and caught him - but he
was so upset that he turned into a ball of teeth and claws out of sheer
terror.
I know he didn't mean to hurt me...I'm not too bloody but got it on the
side of my head and arms LOL. I'm not worried about me at bit...you should
see me when I work with my roses -- I'm just so worried about how terrified
he is.
I finally called the vet and told them what was going on. The male
vet tech assured me that if I couldn't get him calmed down then they really
would prefer that I not bring him in today LOL
I gave the all clear after that ("All Done!")...but he's still
hiding. I'm home Monday and they told me that if I can coax him to just
bring him in any time. I just need to work more with himand it sounds
like I need a few lessons too - even if I have been taking care of kitties over
30 years.
You guys are going to think I'm nutty (that's ok :0)...but ever since I
read this article (Taming
Wild Cats With Tibetan Buddhist Chants ), I bought a CD of Tibetan Buddist
Chants and it really does help to calm down the ferals. Hey, why not? -
it's been known to tame tigers :0) I'm going to put some rescue remedy in
the water too. Any other suggestions? Insight into cat
psychology? Bandaids? I know with all the fireworks over the weekend
we're probably all going to have some very jumpy cats.
Re: michelle/dehydration
I'd definitely force feed her until your vet returns. Canned food, watered down and put in the blender enough to make it syringable would work for both nutrition and the dehydration. Do you have any big oral syringes (10CC or bigger)? It will take forever to get enough into her if you're stuck using the little 3CC syringes you get with most oral medications, but it can be done. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.7/379 - Release Date: 6/29/2006
Re: Dixie Louise
Is she SPAYED? If not, I'd RUSH her to the emergency clinic, it could be a pyrometra, a very life threatening infection of the uterus in intact female cats. Otherwise (if she IS spayed), I'd make a normal appointment first thing Monday. Abnormal discharges aren't something to toy around with, and generally require vet care. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.7/379 - Release Date: 6/29/2006
Re: dehydration (DIY sub-q)
http://www.felinecrf.com/managh.htm (here's a DIY instructions from the chronic renalfailure website, for learning how to do it yourself at home)http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_giving_set.htm (more home sub-q fliudtechniques with pictures) http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/clientED/cat_fluids.asp (here's a webpage that shows theprocedure, the third method is the one I have always seen used, and the most commonin the USA)Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.7/379 - Release Date: 6/29/2006
Re: michelle/dehydration
I would definitely syringe feed her. Not just a little though. You want to try to get 100 cc's per day into her. I would do it in meals of 20-30 cc's at a time. A/D is what they usually use. You can use baby food short-term. What exactly is wrong with Minnie? I may have missed some of the thread. Is she being treated for anything? Michelle In a message dated 6/30/2006 8:02:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you are a peach for answering i took minnie in today for a sub-Q...she was so fretting about this. i know that i most definitely do not want her to fret and stress.. for a million reasons my doc who is awesome... said she would teach me. she is out on holiday and will not be back for at least another week. i am not sure if Minnie is able to make it that longshe is not eating more than a bite or two ...should i try to force feed her by syringe in her little mouth...little drips ? i took 5 days off over this weejend to try to prepare. i have cried all day since i came home from the vet.. LJ
michelle/dehydration
you are a peach for answering i took minnie in today for a sub-Q...she was so fretting about this. i know that i most definitely do not want her to fret and stress.. for a million reasons my doc who is awesome... said she would teach me. she is out on holiday and will not be back for at least another week. i am not sure if Minnie is able to make it that longshe is not eating more than a bite or two ...should i try to force feed her by syringe in her little mouth...little drips ? i took 5 days off over this weejend to try to prepare. i have cried all day since i came home from the vet.. LJ
Was: How is Samantha today? / Now: cleaning up
I'm not sure there is much chance of FeLV living on anything very long once the disease has been exposed to air and dried BUT I AM no expert. I have read from others that they typically do a thorough cleaning and either throw out toys (or keep them for keepsakes, but not other cats). I personally live with 4 FeLV+ cats and 6 negatives (and that number has been variable depending on rescue and losing cats for whatever reason) and do not separate anything (not food bowls, water, litter pans) but have never had a negative cat turn/become positive so I think the chances of any transfer, esp. after the affected cat has passed (and I'm sorry for your loss), is minimal. How wonderful you will give 2 new cats a loving home. Tracy > [Original Message] > From: Julia Hagstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 6/30/2006 5:21:41 PM > Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? > > Thanks, everyone, for all the support. I need to know what kind of > cleaner to use, as I have been offered a kitty who is a month younger > than Samantha was, and needs a home; her owner is moving to an > apartment, where they don't allow pets. Also, I have a chance to get a > really young kitten, as the lady behind the counter where a friend and > I bowl has a cat who is about to give birth, so I might end up with 2 > cats. I want to clean my house before any more cats come in to it, > make sure there is NO chance of the FelV virus still being around. I > am throwing out all of Samantha's toys, her food and water dishes, and, > most especially, her litter box. What's a good cleaner to use??? > > Julia > > On Friday, June 30, 2006, at 07:40 AM, Terri Brown wrote: > > > I can only echo Marylyn's words. Big hugs to you. > > > > Goodnight, sweet Samantha... > > > > =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, > > Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & > > Salome' =^..^= > > > > Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here --> www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa > > > > Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ > > My Personal Page: > > http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 > > Come check me out on MySpace at > > http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Marylyn > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:14 PM > > Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? > > > > Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can > > send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. > > Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That > > you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her > > own but she needs to know that is ok with you and > > .well, she is very concerned about you and your > > welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know > > that you know she will remain around in spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have men who > > will exclude any of God's creatures > > from the shelter of > > compassion and pity, you will have men who > > will deal likewise > > with their fellow man. > > St. > > Francis > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Julia Hagstrom > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM > > Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? > > > > Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready > > to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as > > if to say, "Please, help me!" I decided this morning that tomorrow is > > the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift > > and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard > > at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know > > it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and > > she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I > > will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty > > right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has > > given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my > > new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! > > > > Julia > > > > On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: > > > > She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then > > do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing > > or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving > > cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have men who > > will exclude any of God's creature
RE: Hannibal departed to his new wonderful life... - thank you forall your p...
Thank you so very much for your kind word, Yvonne. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Hannibal departed to his new wonderful life... - thank you forall your p... Dear Hideyo, You did a wonderful job with Hannibal & gave him a life that he never would have known without you. Your special little angel is watching over you now...he is well & he wants you to be happy. Take extra good care of yourself. You & your precious Hannibal are in my prayers. Yvonne
RE: Hannibal departed to his new wonderful life... - thank you for all your prayers.
Thank you so much Elizabeth. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Hannibal departed to his new wonderful life... - thank you for all your prayers. I am so sorry, Hideyo. You were such a wonderful mother and friend to Hannibal. You made his life so much better than it would have been. He loves you so much and would thank you with all his heart. elizabeth -Original Message- From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:21:46 -0600 Subject: Hannibal departed to his new wonderful life... - thank you for all your prayers. Hi, everyone, I first wanted to thank you all for all the prayers and encouragement and support for Hannibal – a little less than 24 hours ago, he passed away – he stopped breathing in my arms.. I wish he was at home but unfortunately we were at the vet and he was getting IV fluid… I was with him the whole time..I really did not expect him to cross the bridge yesterday.. I just wanted to make him feel better and I thought that IV would have helped him.. and now I think about it, I am so sure that putting him on IV did shorten his life after all.. as always,, I have so many regrets for things I wish I had done, I had known.. or I wish I had not done.. if I had known as much as I do now.. I would have made Hannibal’s life so much better and longer…..I am so sorry for Hannibal not knowing any better… but I hope I can contribute my learning experience to any other kitties out there who are fighting against CRF… Hannibal was and is such a fighter.. he was the very first feral I rescued in U.S. and I have known him over 10 years… I feel so fortunate to have met him and feel honored to have met and feel privileged to have had the opportunity to take care of him.. I wish I had done a better job, Hannibal… and I am so sorry that I did not pay attention well enough and took your sight way.. I know it was struggle for you…… but one thing for sure.. I have loved him so very much.. I loved him like there is no tomorrow….and I always will… We celebrated his departure to his new life with all other kitties last night.. we all miss him.. I am so very much going to miss holding him.. and seeing places that I used to see.. but I also know that his soul will continue to live with me.. and is still around…I am still feeling numb and shock.. but I wanted to thank everyone for all the prayers. I also wanted to thank Helen and her website on CRF support ---I have learned so much from … I know for sure that without the information,, I couldn’t have taken care of him as well as I did…. Hideyo and Hannibal, my little precious hero… Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
RE: Hannibal departed to his new wonderful life... - thank you for all your prayers.
Thank so much Belinda. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hannibal departed to his new wonderful life... - thank you for all your prayers. Hideyo, I'm so sorry Hannibal has left you. He was probably just ready to leave his failing body, some kitties just seem to be so ready to move on when their bodies become frail and beyond healing. Like you said he is always with you in spirit and in your heart though I know that doesn't really help much right now. Please take care of yourself and try not to second guess or feel any guilt, you did everything you possibly could to try and help Hannibal feel better. He never would have had anywhere near as good of a life if you hadn't taken him inot your care. My prayers are with you. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Hannibal departed to his new wonderful life... - thank you forall your p...
Thank you very much, Michelle.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Hannibal departed to his new wonderful life... - thank you forall your p... I am so, so sorry Hideyo. You have been through so much. Michelle
Re: How is Samantha today?
Julia,I am so sorry for your loss,but she is much better now.Maybe she was able to meet my Maizee.Take care,you are a great kitty mom. SherryJulia Hagstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Samantha has passed over, and she was ready to go.Julia HagstromOn Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:14 PM, Marylyn wrote:> Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can > send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. > Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That > you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her > own but she needs to know that is ok with you and > .well, she is very concerned about you and your > welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know > that you know she will remain around in spirit.> > > > > > If you have men who > will exclude any of God's creatures> from the shelter of > compassion and pity, you will have men who> will deal likewise > with their fellow man.> St. > Francis>> - Original Message -> From: Julia Hagstrom> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM> Subject: Re: How is Samantha today?>> Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready > to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as > if to say, "Please, help me!" I decided this morning that tomorrow is > the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift > and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard > at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know > it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and > she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I > will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty > right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has > given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my > new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks!>> Julia>> On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote:>> She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then > do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing > or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving > cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love.> > > > > > > If you have men who > will exclude any of God's creatures> from the shelter of > compassion and pity, you will have men who> will deal likewise > with their fellow man.> St. > Francis>> - Original Message -> From: Julia Hagstrom> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM> Subject: Re: How is Samantha today?>> Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she > doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty > soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. > I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the > support.>> Julia>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:>> Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make > her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready > to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at > least one other person on this list.> Michelle> > In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:>> Hi, Wendy,>> Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the> Lactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth,> but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, and> can hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. The> vet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with the> Prednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; they> hardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. I> think she will be gone soon. :( :( :(>> Julia>>> >> No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: > 6/27/2006 No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: > 6/28/2006> Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.
Samantha
Julia, Samantha knew how much she was loved. She was a very lucky kitty to have had someone to love and care for her as much as you did. Bonnie http://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/ http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdf - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:29 pm Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Samantha has passed over, and she was ready to go. > > Julia Hagstrom > > On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:14 PM, Marylyn wrote: > > > Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You > can > > send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her > pain. > > Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. > That > > you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on > her > > own but she needs to know that is ok with you and > > .well, she is very concerned about you and your > > welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to > know > > that you know she will remain around in spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have men > who > > will exclude any of God's creatures > > from the shelter > of > > compassion and pity, you will have men who > > will deal > likewise > > with their fellow man. > > > St. > > Francis > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Julia Hagstrom > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM > > Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? > > > > Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is > ready > > to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at > me, as > > if to say, "Please, help me!" I decided this morning that > tomorrow is > > the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be > swift > > and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so > hard > > at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I > know > > it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, > and > > she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and > I > > will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another > kitty > > right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has > > given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure > my > > new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! > > > > Julia > > > > On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: > > > > She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart > then > > do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do > nothing > > or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your > loving > > cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have men > who > > will exclude any of God's creatures > > from the shelter > of > > compassion and pity, you will have men who > > will deal > likewise > > with their fellow man. > > > St. > > Francis > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Julia Hagstrom > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM > > Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? > > > > Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, > she > > doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, > pretty > > soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very > long. > > I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for > all the > > support. > > > > Julia > > > > On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:> > > Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would > make > > her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are > ready > > to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has > at > > least one other person on this list. > > Michelle > > > > In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Hi, Wendy, > > > > Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the > > Lactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her > mouth,> but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time > breathing, and > > can hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. > The> vet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even > with the > > Prednisone, and that's
Re: How is Samantha today?
Thanks, everyone, for all the support. I need to know what kind of cleaner to use, as I have been offered a kitty who is a month younger than Samantha was, and needs a home; her owner is moving to an apartment, where they don't allow pets. Also, I have a chance to get a really young kitten, as the lady behind the counter where a friend and I bowl has a cat who is about to give birth, so I might end up with 2 cats. I want to clean my house before any more cats come in to it, make sure there is NO chance of the FelV virus still being around. I am throwing out all of Samantha's toys, her food and water dishes, and, most especially, her litter box. What's a good cleaner to use??? Julia On Friday, June 30, 2006, at 07:40 AM, Terri Brown wrote: I can only echo Marylyn's words. Big hugs to you. Goodnight, sweet Samantha... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here --> www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her own but she needs to know that is ok with you and .well, she is very concerned about you and your welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know that you know she will remain around in spirit. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, "Please, help me!" I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! Julia On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support. Julia On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list. Michelle In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Wendy, Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the Lactaid milk I give
Re: How is Samantha today?
Samantha has passed over, and she was ready to go. Julia Hagstrom On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:14 PM, Marylyn wrote: Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her own but she needs to know that is ok with you and .well, she is very concerned about you and your welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know that you know she will remain around in spirit. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, "Please, help me!" I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! Julia On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support. Julia On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list. Michelle In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Wendy, Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the Lactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth, but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, and can hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. The vet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with the Prednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; they hardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. I think she will be gone soon. :( :( :( Julia No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006
Re: dehydration
When my cats are sick, I give them sub-q fluids at home. I think that is true for most of us on the list. You should have your vet teach you how to do it. It really is not hard. The only thing that is hard is if Minnie is a total monster about it (most cats aren't after the first or second time) and you have no one to help you with it. But I have been able to give fluids on my own to most of my cats who have needed it. My one cat Buddy was a total monster about it, even when he was quite sick, so I had to have someone hold him for me. Michelle In a message dated 6/30/2006 2:43:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hoow do y'all keep your kitlets hydrated when they don't seem to want to drink? i do syringe minnie some at thome, but have been having to take her 2 times a week or every other day for sub-Q fluids :( her appetite sucks as well but keep trying... how much water should you try to get into your cat daily? on days off it is easy but during the week it is tricky... LJ
dehydration
hoow do y'all keep your kitlets hydrated when they don't seem to want to drink? i do syringe minnie some at thome, but have been having to take her 2 times a week or every other day for sub-Q fluids :( her appetite sucks as well but keep trying... how much water should you try to get into your cat daily? on days off it is easy but during the week it is tricky... LJ
Re: Dixie Louise
I have an FeLV neg. whose anal sacs got impacted when we went out of town two weeks ago. I had to take her to the vet to have them expressed. Not a fun day. --- Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone had problems with a FeLV+ cat having > vaginal discharge or problems with the anal sacs? > > How did you treat them? > > > > > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Chester is Catching Birds
Goodnight, sweet Chester... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here --> www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:47 AM Subject: Re: Chester is Catching Birds Dear Lisa, I am so sorry to hear of Chester's passing. You were a very brave & wonderful mom to him. Your little angel will watch over you always. You & Chester are in my prayers & I will also be praying for a negative test result & good health for Timmy. Take care. Yvonne
Re: Help Angel's Gate Sanctuary (Petition)
Done. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here --> www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:54 AM Subject: Help Angel's Gate Sanctuary (Petition) Hello Everyone,First, my condolences to everyone that has lost a fur child and prayers for those that are struggling. I haven't been on list as much as usual, but I wanted to pass this on to all of you. Isn't Angel's Gate the sanctuary that Patti sent her Felix to? I remember her talking about Susan and the compassionate people there. Apparently they are in trouble with possible re-zoning threats and need help with signatures for a petition. Please take a look and see if it's something you would like to support:http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/627580358
Re: How is Samantha today?
I can only echo Marylyn's words. Big hugs to you. Goodnight, sweet Samantha... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here --> www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her own but she needs to know that is ok with you and .well, she is very concerned about you and your welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know that you know she will remain around in spirit. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, "Please, help me!" I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! JuliaOn Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message -From: Julia HagstromTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PMSubject: Re: How is Samantha today?Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support.JuliaOn Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list.Michelle In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hi, Wendy,Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink theLactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth,but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, andcan hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. Thevet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with thePrednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; theyhardly got any fluid out of her, the
Re: Devastated...Mr. Dobbs My New FIV Rescue Died After NeuterSurgery
Hugs to you, Rachel. Goodnight, sweet Mr. Dobbs... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here --> www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:15 AM Subject: Re: Devastated...Mr. Dobbs My New FIV Rescue Died After NeuterSurgery Dear Rachel, I am so, so sorry about your loss of Mr. Dobbs. I can't imagine the shock you must be feeling. I do know, however, that he knows how much you love him & that he is grateful that he got to leave this world from a home where he was loved, even if it was only for a short time. Take care. Yvonne
Re: terri
happy to help - Original Message - From: l.j. crabtree To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: terri <<>>> oh terri. what awesome words you have shared i didn't stay with the emergency vets, but loving loving loving minnie is exactly what my heart says to do. you are suc a wonderful support lj
Re: Wowie
We had the same experience with prednisolene! The vet didn't think Mio would live through the night she had a 106.5 degree temp, she couldn't stand, she wasn't eating or drinking, but within 24 hours of the injection her temp was gone and she was interested in the world again and catnip (it took another day for food), but still the turn around was INCREDIBLE. I don't know if this is common, but in my experience, vets are very quick to give FeLV kitties a terrible prognosis when they are ill. It's true every time they get sick, it could be their time to go, but just as often they pull through again. I know it's hard, but don't give up hope, he's going to need your strength. From: "gwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Subject: Re: Wowie Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:54:05 -0400 All I can tell you is about my experiences w/ Spaz. Her PCV was down to 7% (anemia) when I got the diagnosis, and she was eight years old. She would not eat, drink, or move. Her bilirubin was high also. The vet was quite scared for her. He gave her a PREDNISOLONE injection and within 12 hours I had a completely different cat on my hands. A few years later, when she had another round with severe anemia, our new vet (we had moved) tried Depo-Medrol, and though three vets said it should do the same as prednisolone, it did NOT. It did not help any whatsoever. I have no idea why. I insisted on a prednisolone injection, and she is alive, healthy, and happy more than 2 years later at the age of almost 14 (not to say we haven't had some other issues, but only one major - a URI). But at the time, all the doctors thought she would not make it. I will let the others tell you about all the other drugs, etc. that can aid your kitty as they have more experience than I do with them. But I will tell you, at least in my experience, that it ain't over 'til it's over!! Best wishes to you and Wowie. Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: "veggiepugs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: Wowie Hi All- I had written a few days ago to ask about teeth. I took Wowie to the vet yesterday and he is not eating but not beacuse of his teeth. He is not well and in fact, his health has taken a turn for the worst. The prognosis is not good and neither is my state of mind. I have to make a decision this week. His blood work came back showing he is anemic, his bilirubin levels are high, his RBC count is also high, WBC count is low. She said he doesn't have much time. She also said she believes he is younger than the 5 years that most vets had estimated. She gave me steriods to try and get him to eat and clavimox. I don't know what to say. I'm at a loss. Though I knew this day would come when I took him in just 7 months ago, it could still never be easy. Thanks for listening. Rebecca
Re: Devastated...Mr. Dobbs My New FIV Rescue Died After Neuter Surgery
Dear Rachel, I am so, so sorry about your loss of Mr. Dobbs. I can't imagine the shock you must be feeling. I do know, however, that he knows how much you love him & that he is grateful that he got to leave this world from a home where he was loved, even if it was only for a short time. Take care. Yvonne
Re: CLS Monday june 26th, 2006
Goodnight, sweet babies... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here --> www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:55 AM Subject: Re: CLS Monday june 26th, 2006 Dear Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss of Mini, Hilary, Loralei, Kasmir, Edgar & Mowgli. You surely have a very special crowd of angels watching over you. Yvonne In a message dated 6/26/2006 3:55:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Belinda,could you please add a few more of my furry friends to the services for next week? Mini,Hilary and Loralei all 3 felv 6-2-2006 Kasmir felv 6-14-2006 Edgar 6-14-2006 Mowgli felv 5-31-06
Re: How is Samantha today?
Dear Julia, My thoughts & prayers are with you & Samantha. I have been in the situation of letting one of my beloved furbabies go home to a life free from pain & I understand all too well how difficult it is. Please know that your special little angel will always be with you. Hugs to you both, Yvonne
