Re: Bart

[Sheila208]

Thank you Patty for loving Bart and doing what was right for him. I know he 
is grateful to you for caring. He is your angel now .  Sheila

Mouse traps

[Kelly L]

I use the "Tin cat."..I have so man y , they are cute. I put a 
cage for them at first, Then they had babies, I now have a good 
relocation plan as they have destroyed 2 printers, the fax 
machine,,wiring behind the dishwasher, cable box twice But they 
are so cute and actually let me pet them,

We name and feed them send them to a goods new home,,
Kelly

Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps

[Kelly L]

At 04:07 PM 2/7/2007, you wrote:



I take all of my mice to a wonderful place in the middle of an 
olive/orange orchard that has an old turned over sofa and some 
trash,,They all head into the sofa and I leave plenty of food for them...

Kelly


In a message dated 2/7/07 5:31:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Humane mouse traps are nicer to the mice, too. I've used them with
great success.

I have to agree on the "humane" traps... Have used them w/ much 
success.

Only dilemma I had was just "where" to relocate my new found furry friends!!!
Me, I can't stand the idea/concept of hurting any living creature.
Hugs,
Patti & her clan - (Which DOES include the mice in this house!! My 
felines wouldn't know what to do w/ a mouse!  Thank heavens)

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Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps

[PEC2851]

 
In a message dated 2/7/07 5:31:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Humane  mouse traps are nicer to the mice, too. I've used them with
great success.  


I have to agree on the "humane" traps... Have used them w/ much  
success.
Only dilemma I had was just "where" to relocate my new found furry  friends!!!
Me, I can't stand the idea/concept of hurting any living  creature.
Hugs,
Patti & her clan - (Which DOES include the mice in this house!! My  felines 
wouldn't know what to do w/ a mouse!  Thank  heavens)

 

Re:Bart-for Patti

[BoardMailbox]

Patti,
 
I'm so sorry to hear about Bart.  He was so very lucky to  have you.
 
Renee

Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps

[TenHouseCats]

the small humane traps are a good idea; i've even used the larger
hav-a-heart ones when the glue-traps first came out, i'd read all
sorts of horror stories about how strong the glue was and how tortuous
it was

has anyone ever heard of a cat actually springing a normal mouse trap?
this thread made me think about it--i don't think i ever have! (but
then, traps are often set in places where cats can't easily get to
them after all, one has to question the mental health of a mouse
that willingly ventures close to where a cat could reach it.

On 2/7/07, elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What do you suggest as a solution to the mouse problem?


elizabeth


On 2/7/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Freeing them would require pulling their feet off the sticky stuff.
Having rescued a lizard from some tape once I can promise you that is not
easy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  If you
have men who will exclude any of God's creatures
>  from the
shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
>  will
deal likewise with their fellow man.
>
St. Francis
>
> - Original Message -
> From: elizabeth trent
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps
>
>
> seems like you could free them and not just stand there and watch them
suffer.  of course, if the cat does eat them...i suppose there isn't much
you can do about that.
>
> elizabeth
>
>
> On 2/7/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > The sticky glue traps are incredibly cruel to the mouse.  They struggle
to
> > free themselves until they starve to death, have a heart attack etc or
until
> > the trapper finds them, still alive, and has to kill them personally.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If you
have men who will
> > exclude any of God's creatures
> > from
the shelter of
> > compassion and pity, you will have men who
> > will
deal likewise with
> > their fellow man.
> >
 St.
> > Francis
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: < felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >> What about sticky glue traps?  You'd still have to be careful that
the
> > >> kitties didn't end up wearing them but it would be a lot less painful
if
> > >> they got caught in one of those than if a mouse trap snapped on them.
> > >
> > > Humane mouse traps are nicer to the mice, too. I've used them with
> > > great success. The two I have look like:
> > >
> > > http://www.themousedepot.com/
> > >
> > > I think I got them at Ace hardware?
> > >
> > > Lynette
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>





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Re: more praying for Lucy and Michelle, please

[BoardMailbox]

 
They are in my prayers.
 
Renee
 
In a message dated 2/7/2007 5:35:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

more  praying for Lucy and Michelle, please

Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps

[elizabeth trent]

What do you suggest as a solution to the mouse problem?

elizabeth


On 2/7/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Freeing them would require pulling their feet off the sticky stuff.
Having rescued a lizard from some tape once I can promise you that is not
easy.






 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

- Original Message -
*From:* elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM
*Subject:* Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps


seems like you could free them and not just stand there and watch them
suffer.  of course, if the cat does eat them...i suppose there isn't much
you can do about that.

elizabeth


On 2/7/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The sticky glue traps are incredibly cruel to the mouse.  They struggle
> to
> free themselves until they starve to death, have a heart attack etc or
> until
> the trapper finds them, still alive, and has to kill them personally.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you have men who will
> exclude any of God's creatures
> from the shelter of
> compassion and pity, you will have men who
> will deal likewise with
> their fellow man.
>  St.
> Francis
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps
>
>
> >
> >
> >> What about sticky glue traps?  You'd still have to be careful that
> the
> >> kitties didn't end up wearing them but it would be a lot less painful
> if
> >> they got caught in one of those than if a mouse trap snapped on them.
> >
> > Humane mouse traps are nicer to the mice, too. I've used them with
> > great success. The two I have look like:
> >
> > http://www.themousedepot.com/
> >
> > I think I got them at Ace hardware?
> >
> > Lynette
> >
>
>
>

Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps

[Marylyn]

Freeing them would require pulling their feet off the sticky stuff.  Having 
rescued a lizard from some tape once I can promise you that is not easy.  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: elizabeth trent 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps


  seems like you could free them and not just stand there and watch them 
suffer.  of course, if the cat does eat them...i suppose there isn't much you 
can do about that.  

  elizabeth

   
  On 2/7/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
The sticky glue traps are incredibly cruel to the mouse.  They struggle to
free themselves until they starve to death, have a heart attack etc or 
until 
the trapper finds them, still alive, and has to kill them personally.






If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
 St.
Francis 
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:31 PM 
Subject: Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps


>
>
>> What about sticky glue traps?  You'd still have to be careful that the
>> kitties didn't end up wearing them but it would be a lot less painful if 
>> they got caught in one of those than if a mouse trap snapped on them.
>
> Humane mouse traps are nicer to the mice, too. I've used them with
> great success. The two I have look like:
>
> http://www.themousedepot.com/
>
> I think I got them at Ace hardware?
>
> Lynette
>

Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps

[elizabeth trent]

seems like you could free them and not just stand there and watch them
suffer.  of course, if the cat does eat them...i suppose there isn't much
you can do about that.

elizabeth


On 2/7/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The sticky glue traps are incredibly cruel to the mouse.  They struggle to
free themselves until they starve to death, have a heart attack etc or
until
the trapper finds them, still alive, and has to kill them personally.






If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
 St.
Francis
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps


>
>
>> What about sticky glue traps?  You'd still have to be careful that the
>> kitties didn't end up wearing them but it would be a lot less painful
if
>> they got caught in one of those than if a mouse trap snapped on them.
>
> Humane mouse traps are nicer to the mice, too. I've used them with
> great success. The two I have look like:
>
> http://www.themousedepot.com/
>
> I think I got them at Ace hardware?
>
> Lynette
>

Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps

[lynette]

> The sticky glue traps are incredibly cruel to the mouse.  They struggle to 
> free themselves until they starve to death, have a heart attack etc or until 
> the trapper finds them, still alive, and has to kill them personally.

That's why I was recommending the humane type:

http://www.themousedepot.com/

Sticky traps are awful. I can't stand to kill anything. I just take
the mice outside and let them go when I use these humane traps. THe
only problems happen if the cat gets them before the trap does.

Lynette

Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps

[Marylyn]

The sticky glue traps are incredibly cruel to the mouse.  They struggle to 
free themselves until they starve to death, have a heart attack etc or until 
the trapper finds them, still alive, and has to kill them personally.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps






What about sticky glue traps?  You'd still have to be careful that the
kitties didn't end up wearing them but it would be a lot less painful if
they got caught in one of those than if a mouse trap snapped on them.


Humane mouse traps are nicer to the mice, too. I've used them with
great success. The two I have look like:

http://www.themousedepot.com/

I think I got them at Ace hardware?

Lynette

Re: Midnight again

[Marylyn]

There are some antibiotics that make me throw up too.  Relax.  Keep a close 
eye on him though.  A cat that does not throw up some is just not normal.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Midnight again


Let's just hope it's nothing more than messy.  Two things you can count on 
with cats, they kill birds and they throw up!  What does the vomit look 
like?  Is there a nasty hair ball in the middle of it, or does it look 
like mostly undigested food?  It's probably nothing, don't worry unless 
there's blood in it, or if it keeps happening.

N

Jennifer Madon wrote:


AAAGGG!  I am sitting here and Midnight has started puking! He is 
still on his antibiotic for the UTI/possible renal failure.  I don't know 
if he ate something or if he is sick.  He just puked on the floor and 
jumped up in my spare office chair and went to sleep

Jennifer

Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps

[lynette]

> What about sticky glue traps?  You'd still have to be careful that the
> kitties didn't end up wearing them but it would be a lot less painful if
> they got caught in one of those than if a mouse trap snapped on them.

Humane mouse traps are nicer to the mice, too. I've used them with
great success. The two I have look like:

http://www.themousedepot.com/

I think I got them at Ace hardware?

Lynette

Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps

[elizabeth trent]

What about sticky glue traps?  You'd still have to be careful that the
kitties didn't end up wearing them but it would be a lot less painful if
they got caught in one of those than if a mouse trap snapped on them.

elizabeth


On 2/7/07, Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi all!  Sorry I haven't been around much lately...life has been
INSANE!!!  My condolensces to anyone who's lost a fur baby.  My thoughts are
with you!  And I'm sending positive thoughts for any sick kitties.

I have a question.  I am almost 100% sure I have mice in the walls of my
bedroom in my apartment.  :(  The maintenance people are offering to put out
traps, but I'm worried about Slinky getting caught in one.

I'm not sure if he'd catch a mouse if he saw one...or what he'd do.  But I
also worry a bit about him getting a disease or something from the rodents.
Has anyone ever heard of any kind of mouse trap that's cat-proof?  Meaning
something that would catch the mice but not hurt Slinky?

I googled "cat proof mouse trap" and all I got was all kinds of mouse
traps with "cat" in the name.  Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks so much for being such a great resource!!!

MJ

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Re: OT - a lovely story

[elizabeth trent]

You forgot to attach the tissues!  Thank you for this wonderful story.

elizabeth


On 2/7/07, Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi guys, I just got this forward, so it immediately had one strike against
it, and then it mentioned God, which advanced my finger to the delete key
quickly, but it involved a little girl, her dog, and a great deal of
kindness, which vaulted it back into the "redeemable" category.  I'm not
religious, and this isn't pushy, but for those of us (which would be all, I
think) that have gone through a loss of a loved one, particularly furred,
it's quite nice, even to subsitute another image for the religious one if
necessary.




Our dog, Abbey, died August  23, and the day after Abbey died, my 4 year
old, Meredith, was SO upset.  She wanted to write a letter to God so that
God would recognize Abbey in heaven.  She told me what to write, and I did.


Then she put 2 pictures of Abbey in the envelope. We addressed it to God
in Heaven, put two stamps on it because, as she said, it could be a long way
to heaven. We put our return address on it, and I let her put it in the drop
boxat the post office that afternoon.  She was absolutely sure that letter
would get to heaven, and I wasn't about to disillusion her.

So today is Labor Day.  We took the kids to the museum in Austin, and when
we came home, there was a package wrapped in gold
on our front porch.  It was addressed to Meredith.  So... she took it
inside and opened it.

Inside was a book, When Your Pet Dies, by Mr. Rogers (Fred Rogers).

Inside the front cover was the letter we had written to God, in its opened
envelope. On the opposite page was one of the pictures of
Abbey taped on the page.  On the back page was the other picture of Abbey,
and this handwritten note on pink paper:

"Dear Meredith,
I know that you will be happy to find out that Abbey arrived safely and
soundly in heaven. Having the pictures you sent to me was a big help!  I
recognized Abbey right away!

You know, Meredith, she isn't sick anymore.  Her spirit is here with me,
just like it stays in your heart... young and running and playing.  Abbey
loved being your dog, you know.

 Since we don't need our bodies in heaven, I don't have any pockets to
keep things in.  So... I am sending you your beautiful letter back
with the pictures--so that you will have this little memory book to keep.

One of my angels is taking care of this for me. I hope this little book
will help.

Thank you for your beautiful letter.  Thank your mother for sending it.
What a wonderful mother you have.   I picked her especially for you.

God blesses you every day and remember, I love you very much.  By the
way...I am in every heart, and everywhere in the universe.

Signed,
God"


--

For some reason, I really love that God has no pockets.

Leslie

RE: OT - My foster Clarissa is sooooo happy

[Rosenfeldt, Diane]

Look at that foofy little face!  I'm so glad she's found a good home!
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:51 PM
To: felvtalk
Subject: OT - My foster Clarissa is so happy


I found her a new foster home with only one other kitty..and the other
kitty is a Persian tooshe plays now..and doesnt' hide under the
table all the time anymore..she even slept with her foster mom (she
never slept with me). 
 
Look at her cute little pics!
 
http://rescuties.rescuegroups.org/animals/detail?AnimalID=103556

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OT - My foster Clarissa is sooooo happy

[Kelley Saveika]

I found her a new foster home with only one other kitty..and the other kitty
is a Persian tooshe plays now..and doesnt' hide under the table all the
time anymore..she even slept with her foster mom (she never slept with me).

Look at her cute little pics!

http://rescuties.rescuegroups.org/animals/detail?AnimalID=103556

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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

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Re: Rude Ranch -ideas for getting HELP

[Kelley Saveika]

I was out at the Volunteer Fair at the University of Texas campus today (I
had to take the day off to go).

I got a lot of interestbut not sure how much will pan out...we will see.


On 2/7/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


excellent suggestions.

more and more high-schools are requiring community service before
graduation, and far more kids would like to help animals than
people--a sentiment i can certainly identify with! there's a lot of
things that retirees can do, as well, with skills gained from years of
working the real world.

with teenagers, many sanctuaries/shelters have a 16-years age minimum
age limit for volunteers; others will say 18 in a minimum for
insurance purposes. i've spoken with insurance professionals, tho, who
say that liability insurance really doesn't apply to volunteers but
only to VISITORS--that volunteers are assumed to have taken on any
risks by the act of volunteering

you can find lots of materials on freecycle lists, too, if you don't
mind wading through lots of posts for things that aren't applicable.
posting what you WANT, however, can work well.

there are at LEAST two yahoogroups that exist solely for
shelters/sanctuaries/rescue to post things that they need/have extras
of to share with others.

any university with a vet school or a vet-tech program is a source of
volunteers; in fact, universities are a good source in general, as a
lot of students really miss their own pets and would love to help out,
even if "only" doing socializing, which is a major need for places
with a lot of kitties.

i was astonished to find out, when i moved to the sanctuary, that i
was the first volunteer they'd ever had who knew how to medicate cats!

i did up a flyer once, asking for "cooks, cleaners and
cuddlers"--people to come in for an hour a day opening the 52 cans of
wet food, scooping it into bowls and adding the lysine, and delivering
it to the rooms; helping with cleaning (the never-ending cleaning--
every little bit helps, and frees the directors of the facilities for
things like vet visits, maintenance, etc), and the all-important
sitting on the floor and just being a cat toy.

so many people think that "helping out" means taking in another
cat. it can mean joining a group of people putting labels on the
newsletter, taking photos of the adoptable cats and putting them on
the petfinder site, writing thank-you notes for donations received;
answering emails or phone calls; offering to pick up donations and
delivering them to the shelter/rescue; transporting critters to the
vet, on a leg of their trip to their forever home. it can be going out
every two weeks and taking a spin on the riding lawn mower; it can be
having another group they're with having 50/50 raffles where half the
proceeds go to the rescue; it can be someone lending their fundraising
skills  and helping organize an event; it can be staffing an adoption
event for a few hours; it can be sellling baked goods on a weekend.

if we remind people of all the ways they can help, without adding a
new fur-source to their homes, again, we help us all.

MC



On 2/7/07, tamara stickler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, three of my volunteers have now moved out of state (have since
gone
> off to college), and the other two now have their hands full with their
two
> new children, one of which is a Down's Synd. baby...where are you?
>
> I found the kids willing to help that time at one of the high schools in
the
> area.  They have to do community service to graduate in Maryland.  Not
all
> of the kids want to work at church, or are comfortable helping at a soup
> kitchen, and there are quite a lot of young adults who love animals and
are
> very into activism, but are limited as to how much they can do first
hand
> because they still live with mom & dad.  BUT, if you contact the local
high
> schools & churches in your areas, you'd be surprised by how many people
are
> willing to help.  AND if you have any affiliations with actual rescues,
very
> often the local lumber yards & little ma & pa hardware stores in the
area
> will be willing to donate either regular merchandise, or slightly
damaged
> items that can be still be useful...just not "pretty".  You can also get
> ALOT of stuff on the CRAIGS LIST website.  People list items there they
want
> to get rid of, but don't want to throw awaymost are give-a-ways,
some
> are up for trade.
>
> It never hurts to ask youth church groups, schools, shops that sell
animal
> supplies..even vet offices, boarding & grooming businesses.  But if you
> approach the schools and church groups, do it correctly, start at the
HEAD
> of the school, explain in writing what you are looking to do and WHY,
try to
> find some educational value in it for those who would help.
>
> If you are in need of  blankets or throws for your rescues...contact an
> assisted living care facility.  Offer to maybe give a talk to the
residents
> about felv+, show pictures of your cats, or if they h

Re: Midnight again

[Nina]

Let's just hope it's nothing more than messy.  Two things you can count 
on with cats, they kill birds and they throw up!  What does the vomit 
look like?  Is there a nasty hair ball in the middle of it, or does it 
look like mostly undigested food?  It's probably nothing, don't worry 
unless there's blood in it, or if it keeps happening.

N

Jennifer Madon wrote:


AAAGGG!  I am sitting here and Midnight has started puking! He is 
still on his antibiotic for the UTI/possible renal failure.  I don't 
know if he ate something or if he is sick.  He just puked on the floor 
and jumped up in my spare office chair and went to sleep

Jennifer
  

Re: OT - a lovely story

[PEC2851]

Thank you for posting that story.
It certainly did bring (more) tears to my eyes.
And, what Kerry wrote is so true.  It is very heartening to "know"  that 
there ARE people in this world who do have hearts..
Thanks again,
Hugs,

Patti & her clan

RE: Leslie and Wheezie

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Leslie, we all feel the loss when ANY little furbabe passes. Please
never hesitate to share, when you're grievingno one is ever going to
tell you you can't. 
Thanks for all you do for all the little special-needs souls that find
their way to you, because no one else will take them. You're an angel.
hugs, Kerry
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leslie Lawther
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Leslie and Wheezie


Nina, Diane and Kerry... you are all so sweet.  I didn't post our
horrible loss because Wheezie was FIV+ not FeLV.  In addition, it's a
very hard fact for me to really face.  I've found myself in some serious
denial about the whole thing.  We do rescue and have 13 FIV+ kitties...
and two FeLV+ as well as spina bifida and asthmatic kitties, it seems we
manage to get all the health issues... but Wheezie was the love of my
life, so this one is particularly difficult. 
 
Thank you all for your support... and caring.  It means the world.  It
really does...
Leslie =^..^=


 
On 2/6/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Leslie, I didn't seem to get your original email. I'm truly
sorry to hear about your beloved Wheezie. It's so hard, suddenly not to
see their sweet little faces at the door any more, when get home. I'm
glad Wheezie was so cherished, and I hope all the good memories
eventually bring you comfort. big hugs, Kerry M. 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosenfeldt,
Diane
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Subject: RE: Leslie and Wheezie



Leslie, my condolences on the loss of your heart-kitty Wheezie.
My special boy Luc is 15 and when I dare to contemplate him no longer
being here it hurts like hell.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes to Wheezie and
hugs to you. 
 
Diane R.

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Leslie and Wheezie

 
Leslie,
I'm so sorry to hear about Wheezie.  Sometimes I feel like I
just can't stand all the loss, but somehow we force ourselves to go on.
You'd think that knowing our loved ones are in jeopardy would somehow
prepare us, somehow make that fateful day when we are forced to say
goodbye easier, but for me it never does.  It always tears my heart
apart.  They are all so special, but some touch our lives so deeply, in
ways we can't even put into words.  I just wanted you to know I get it
and I'm so very sorry. 

Prayers that soon you'll be smiling through your tears at all
the wonderful memories of your beloved Wheezie. 
With love,
Nina

Leslie Lawther wrote: 

Susan, my heart is just breaking for you.  I lost my
"soul-kitty" Wheezie on Saturday... and it was one of the most difficult
losses I've ever had to cope with.  He was the love of my life... so I
can imagine a bottle baby you've had from so young.  We feel so helpless
sometimes... Wheezie had congestive heart failure that we were treating
for over six months with a cardiologist... but I know the feeling of
leaving in the morning and praying when you open the door at the end of
the day that his beautiful face would be there to greet me.  I'm so
sorry for your loss Susan... we all are.  Hopefully Wheezie and Leader
are playing together pain free and happy 
*hugs*
Leslie =^..^=

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Midnight again

[Jennifer Madon]

AAAGGG!  I am sitting here and Midnight has started puking! He is 
still on his antibiotic for the UTI/possible renal failure.  I don't 
know if he ate something or if he is sick.  He just puked on the floor 
and jumped up in my spare office chair and went to sleep

Jennifer
  

RE: Bart-for Patti

[wendy]

Patti,

I just read about you and Bart and his trip to the
vet's this morning.  I am so very sorry that he had to
cross.  You are very brave to do that for him.  Thank
you for taking the wonderful care of him that you did.

:)
Wendy

--- "MacKenzie, Kerry N."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear Patti
> I have absolutely no doubt at all that smart,
> compassionate little
> Charity led you to Bart.
> Your email brought tears to my eyes. I am glad tho,
> so glad, that Bart
> did not pass alone, had you, loving and caring for
> him, by his side.
> KNEW at least at the end of his life that he was
> loved.
>  >>>Can't let them down.  I'm all they have,,, 
> And, they are my
> world.<<<
> Makes me want to go home right now and give all of
> mine an extra cuddle.
> >>>I am very thankful to be a part of this group.<<<
> I for one am very thankful *you're* part of this
> group Patti! Thanks a
> million for being who you are and doing all you do
> for all the lost
> little souls that find their way to you, hugs, Kerry
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:49 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Bart
> 
> 
> Thank you all so very much for your thoughts,
> concerns and prayers for
> Bart and me.
> After I sent that post about my feral friend,
> (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I
> DID go out to barn & struggled (very hard ) to get
> him in a large crate
> and into secluded area of house I hated having
> to lift him, he was
> so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him
> being so sick &
> inside the barn, no matter how well I "thought" I
> had insulated it..
> 
>  
> The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS.  I was with
> him when he crossed
> the bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him.  How
> strange is that???  He
> was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I
> ever came across in
> all my years  And, very, very savvy.  Never
> could trap him over the
> past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an
> alternative
> method.)
> I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their
> trust, Charity
> "led" me to him in the blizzard She knew he
> needed help, so she
> turned to me.  Even when I had my Rottie (who does
> like cats, just
> freaked over a "strange" one in her territory), out
> on leash.. The
> way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me,
> but Charity would not
> give up..When I look back, I am so very thankful
> that none of us got
> hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off
> leash & Charity not
> being challenged by my very large, very territorial,
> Rottie).  I am also
> very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity &
> Bart into my
> care.
>  
> At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared,
> of course, but he
> kept looking at me and I just "knew"
> He had an abdomen so very full of fluid. 
> Unbelievable.  The vet did
> pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop. 
> Besides the fluid in
> his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a
> good sign.  And, he
> had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already
> "missing" quite a
> few..
> His "vision" was also questionable..
> My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to
> lay down, but just
> couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table.  
> Broke my heart..
> Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities"
> of Bart
> recovering... He explained that although it was
> almost a textbook
> case of "wet FIP" (which would mean regular
> draining), he also was most
> assuredly very anemic.  Epogen, transfusions.
> Also, he "explained"
> it "could be", lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular,
> liver, kidneys - I'm sure
> you all get the picture.  His prognosis was very
> poor, with NO
> guarantees.
> I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my
> babies, so I made
> the dreaded decision..
> My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the
> euthanasia solution,
> and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I
> stroked him & kissed his
> (big "ole) head..
> Not a good day.. I HATE having to "play
> God"..
> And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a
> feral/stray..
> Just absolutely heartbreaking.  No other words can
> explain it...
> Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest
> of my charges are
> counting on me.  Can't let them down.  I'm all they
> have,,,  And,
> they are my world.
> As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add
> Bart to next CLS.
> I will also "try" to e-mail those of you who I have
> corresponded with
> off list.  Just, please forgive me if I don't get to
> it tonight
> You are the most wonderful, supportive, loving group
> of folks out
> there.. I am very thankful to be a part of this
> group.  Really.
> Hugs,
> 
>

> 
> (A Very Sad) Patti & her clan
> 
> 

RE: Bart-for Patti

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Dear Patti
I have absolutely no doubt at all that smart, compassionate little
Charity led you to Bart.
Your email brought tears to my eyes. I am glad tho, so glad, that Bart
did not pass alone, had you, loving and caring for him, by his side.
KNEW at least at the end of his life that he was loved.
 >>>Can't let them down.  I'm all they have,,,  And, they are my
world.<<<
Makes me want to go home right now and give all of mine an extra cuddle.
>>>I am very thankful to be a part of this group.<<<
I for one am very thankful *you're* part of this group Patti! Thanks a
million for being who you are and doing all you do for all the lost
little souls that find their way to you, hugs, Kerry
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bart


Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, concerns and prayers for
Bart and me.
After I sent that post about my feral friend, (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I
DID go out to barn & struggled (very hard ) to get him in a large crate
and into secluded area of house I hated having to lift him, he was
so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him being so sick &
inside the barn, no matter how well I "thought" I had insulated it..

 
The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS.  I was with him when he crossed
the bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him.  How strange is that???  He
was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I ever came across in
all my years  And, very, very savvy.  Never could trap him over the
past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an alternative
method.)
I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their trust, Charity
"led" me to him in the blizzard She knew he needed help, so she
turned to me.  Even when I had my Rottie (who does like cats, just
freaked over a "strange" one in her territory), out on leash.. The
way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me, but Charity would not
give up..When I look back, I am so very thankful that none of us got
hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off leash & Charity not
being challenged by my very large, very territorial, Rottie).  I am also
very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity & Bart into my
care.
 
At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, of course, but he
kept looking at me and I just "knew"
He had an abdomen so very full of fluid.  Unbelievable.  The vet did
pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop.  Besides the fluid in
his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a good sign.  And, he
had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already "missing" quite a
few..
His "vision" was also questionable..
My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to lay down, but just
couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table.   Broke my heart..
Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities" of Bart
recovering... He explained that although it was almost a textbook
case of "wet FIP" (which would mean regular draining), he also was most
assuredly very anemic.  Epogen, transfusions. Also, he "explained"
it "could be", lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular, liver, kidneys - I'm sure
you all get the picture.  His prognosis was very poor, with NO
guarantees.
I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my babies, so I made
the dreaded decision..
My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the euthanasia solution,
and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I stroked him & kissed his
(big "ole) head..
Not a good day.. I HATE having to "play God"..
And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a feral/stray..
Just absolutely heartbreaking.  No other words can explain it...
Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest of my charges are
counting on me.  Can't let them down.  I'm all they have,,,  And,
they are my world.
As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add Bart to next CLS.
I will also "try" to e-mail those of you who I have corresponded with
off list.  Just, please forgive me if I don't get to it tonight
You are the most wonderful, supportive, loving group of folks out
there.. I am very thankful to be a part of this group.  Really.
Hugs,
  
(A Very Sad) Patti & her clan
 
 
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Re: Asia

[wendy]

I think I missed this too!  Ditto!

:)
Wendy

--- elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How did I miss this??!?  That is great news!
> 
> elizabeth
> 
> 
> On 2/3/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Yes that IS wonderful news!  Go Asia!
> >
> > tonya
> >
> > *Leslie Lawther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >
> > *CONGRATULATIONS!!  What wonderful news for you
> and for Asia!!!  *
> > *We can always use a shot of good news!  Thanks
> for sharing!!*
> > *Leslie =^..^=*
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/23/07, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Asia is still in remission!  (from
> lymphoma)
> > >
> > > Dianne
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Leslie =^..^=
> >
> > To leave the world a better place - whether by a
> healthy child, a garden
> > patch, or an improved social condition - that is
> to have succeeded.  That
> > only one life breathed easier because you lived -
> that is success.
> > ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
> >
> >
> >
> 




 

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Re: more praying for Lucy and Michelle, please

[PEC2851]

Hideyo,
Lucy has been in my prayers EVERY night...  
I have been so worried about Michelle now too..
I will also add Michelle to my prayers.
ALL she has been going thru w/ her Lucy, well, I can relate (sadly) all too  
well...
Thank you for posting.
Have you been in contact w/ Michelle?  If so, please tell her that I am very 
concerned, and, both she & Lucy WILL be in  my prayers.
Hugs,

Patti & her clan

 

Re: more praying for Lucy and Michelle, please

[Susan Loesch]

Consider it done.

Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi, everyone, I would 
like to ask you all to pray for Lucy and Michelle – Michelle is thinking of 
helping her cross tomorrow afternoon and if she gets better, she is planning to 
cancel the appointment.  Please continue to pray that either Lucy will feel 
better,, if not, pray that Lucy will have the most gentle and peaceful crossing…
   
  Hideyo

more praying for Lucy and Michelle, please

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, everyone, I would like to ask you all to pray for Lucy and Michelle
- Michelle is thinking of helping her cross tomorrow afternoon and if
she gets better, she is planning to cancel the appointment.  Please
continue to pray that either Lucy will feel better,, if not, pray that
Lucy will have the most gentle and peaceful crossing...

 

Hideyo

RE: OT - a lovely story

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Well, I'm not religious either, but you'd have to have a heart of stone
not to be moved by this story. Briught tears to my eyes. It's always
good to be reminded of the goodness and sensitivity of people in an
often cruel world. Kerry M.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leslie
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:59 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT - a lovely story


Hi guys, I just got this forward, so it immediately had one strike
against it, and then it mentioned God, which advanced my finger to the
delete key quickly, but it involved a little girl, her dog, and a great
deal of kindness, which vaulted it back into the "redeemable" category.
I'm not religious, and this isn't pushy, but for those of us (which
would be all, I think) that have gone through a loss of a loved one,
particularly furred, it's quite nice, even to subsitute another image
for the religious one if necessary. 
 



Our dog, Abbey, died August  23, and the day after Abbey died, my 4 year
old, Meredith, was SO upset.  She wanted to write a letter to God so
that God would recognize Abbey in heaven.  She told me what to write,
and I did.  
 
Then she put 2 pictures of Abbey in the envelope. We addressed it to God
in Heaven, put two stamps on it because, as she said, it could be a long
way to heaven. We put our return address on it, and I let her put it in
the drop boxat the post office that afternoon.  She was absolutely sure
that letter would get to heaven, and I wasn't about to disillusion her. 

So today is Labor Day.  We took the kids to the museum in Austin, and
when we came home, there was a package wrapped in gold
on our front porch.  It was addressed to Meredith.  So... she took it
inside and opened it. 

Inside was a book, When Your Pet Dies, by Mr. Rogers (Fred Rogers).

Inside the front cover was the letter we had written to God, in its
opened envelope. On the opposite page was one of the pictures of 
Abbey taped on the page.  On the back page was the other picture of
Abbey, and this handwritten note on pink paper: 

"Dear Meredith,
I know that you will be happy to find out that Abbey arrived safely and
soundly in heaven. Having the pictures you sent to me was a big help!  I
recognized Abbey right away!

You know, Meredith, she isn't sick anymore.  Her spirit is here with me,
just like it stays in your heart... young and running and playing.
Abbey loved being your dog, you know.  
 
 Since we don't need our bodies in heaven, I don't have any pockets to
keep things in.  So... I am sending you your beautiful letter back
with the pictures--so that you will have this little memory book to
keep. 

One of my angels is taking care of this for me. I hope this little book
will help. 

Thank you for your beautiful letter.  Thank your mother for sending it.
What a wonderful mother you have.   I picked her especially for you. 

God blesses you every day and remember, I love you very much.  By the
way...I am in every heart, and everywhere in the universe. 

Signed,
God"
 

--
 
For some reason, I really love that God has no pockets.
 
Leslie
 
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OT - a lovely story

[Leslie]

Hi guys, I just got this forward, so it immediately had one strike against
it, and then it mentioned God, which advanced my finger to the delete key
quickly, but it involved a little girl, her dog, and a great deal of
kindness, which vaulted it back into the "redeemable" category.  I'm not
religious, and this isn't pushy, but for those of us (which would be all, I
think) that have gone through a loss of a loved one, particularly furred,
it's quite nice, even to subsitute another image for the religious one if
necessary.



Our dog, Abbey, died August  23, and the day after Abbey died, my 4 year
old, Meredith, was SO upset.  She wanted to write a letter to God so that
God would recognize Abbey in heaven.  She told me what to write, and I did.

Then she put 2 pictures of Abbey in the envelope. We addressed it to God in
Heaven, put two stamps on it because, as she said, it could be a long way to
heaven. We put our return address on it, and I let her put it in the drop
boxat the post office that afternoon.  She was absolutely sure that letter
would get to heaven, and I wasn't about to disillusion her.

So today is Labor Day.  We took the kids to the museum in Austin, and when
we came home, there was a package wrapped in gold
on our front porch.  It was addressed to Meredith.  So... she took it inside
and opened it.

Inside was a book, When Your Pet Dies, by Mr. Rogers (Fred Rogers).

Inside the front cover was the letter we had written to God, in its opened
envelope. On the opposite page was one of the pictures of
Abbey taped on the page.  On the back page was the other picture of Abbey,
and this handwritten note on pink paper:

"Dear Meredith,
I know that you will be happy to find out that Abbey arrived safely and
soundly in heaven. Having the pictures you sent to me was a big help!  I
recognized Abbey right away!

You know, Meredith, she isn't sick anymore.  Her spirit is here with me,
just like it stays in your heart... young and running and playing.  Abbey
loved being your dog, you know.

Since we don't need our bodies in heaven, I don't have any pockets to keep
things in.  So... I am sending you your beautiful letter back
with the pictures--so that you will have this little memory book to keep.

One of my angels is taking care of this for me. I hope this little book will
help.

Thank you for your beautiful letter.  Thank your mother for sending it.
What a wonderful mother you have.   I picked her especially for you.

God blesses you every day and remember, I love you very much.  By the
way...I am in every heart, and everywhere in the universe.

Signed,
God"

--

For some reason, I really love that God has no pockets.

Leslie

Hi and Question: Mouse Traps

[Marissa Johnson]

Hi all!  Sorry I haven't been around much lately...life has been INSANE!!!  My 
condolensces to anyone who's lost a fur baby.  My thoughts are with you!  And 
I'm sending positive thoughts for any sick kitties.
   
  I have a question.  I am almost 100% sure I have mice in the walls of my 
bedroom in my apartment.  :(  The maintenance people are offering to put out 
traps, but I'm worried about Slinky getting caught in one.
   
  I'm not sure if he'd catch a mouse if he saw one...or what he'd do.  But I 
also worry a bit about him getting a disease or something from the rodents.  
Has anyone ever heard of any kind of mouse trap that's cat-proof?  Meaning 
something that would catch the mice but not hurt Slinky?  
   
  I googled "cat proof mouse trap" and all I got was all kinds of mouse traps 
with "cat" in the name.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks 
so much for being such a great resource!!!
   
  MJ

 
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Re: Rude Ranch -ideas for getting HELP

[TenHouseCats]

excellent suggestions.

more and more high-schools are requiring community service before
graduation, and far more kids would like to help animals than
people--a sentiment i can certainly identify with! there's a lot of
things that retirees can do, as well, with skills gained from years of
working the real world.

with teenagers, many sanctuaries/shelters have a 16-years age minimum
age limit for volunteers; others will say 18 in a minimum for
insurance purposes. i've spoken with insurance professionals, tho, who
say that liability insurance really doesn't apply to volunteers but
only to VISITORS--that volunteers are assumed to have taken on any
risks by the act of volunteering

you can find lots of materials on freecycle lists, too, if you don't
mind wading through lots of posts for things that aren't applicable.
posting what you WANT, however, can work well.

there are at LEAST two yahoogroups that exist solely for
shelters/sanctuaries/rescue to post things that they need/have extras
of to share with others.

any university with a vet school or a vet-tech program is a source of
volunteers; in fact, universities are a good source in general, as a
lot of students really miss their own pets and would love to help out,
even if "only" doing socializing, which is a major need for places
with a lot of kitties.

i was astonished to find out, when i moved to the sanctuary, that i
was the first volunteer they'd ever had who knew how to medicate cats!

i did up a flyer once, asking for "cooks, cleaners and
cuddlers"--people to come in for an hour a day opening the 52 cans of
wet food, scooping it into bowls and adding the lysine, and delivering
it to the rooms; helping with cleaning (the never-ending cleaning--
every little bit helps, and frees the directors of the facilities for
things like vet visits, maintenance, etc), and the all-important
sitting on the floor and just being a cat toy.

so many people think that "helping out" means taking in another
cat. it can mean joining a group of people putting labels on the
newsletter, taking photos of the adoptable cats and putting them on
the petfinder site, writing thank-you notes for donations received;
answering emails or phone calls; offering to pick up donations and
delivering them to the shelter/rescue; transporting critters to the
vet, on a leg of their trip to their forever home. it can be going out
every two weeks and taking a spin on the riding lawn mower; it can be
having another group they're with having 50/50 raffles where half the
proceeds go to the rescue; it can be someone lending their fundraising
skills  and helping organize an event; it can be staffing an adoption
event for a few hours; it can be sellling baked goods on a weekend.

if we remind people of all the ways they can help, without adding a
new fur-source to their homes, again, we help us all.

MC



On 2/7/07, tamara stickler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well, three of my volunteers have now moved out of state (have since gone
off to college), and the other two now have their hands full with their two
new children, one of which is a Down's Synd. baby...where are you?

I found the kids willing to help that time at one of the high schools in the
area.  They have to do community service to graduate in Maryland.  Not all
of the kids want to work at church, or are comfortable helping at a soup
kitchen, and there are quite a lot of young adults who love animals and are
very into activism, but are limited as to how much they can do first hand
because they still live with mom & dad.  BUT, if you contact the local high
schools & churches in your areas, you'd be surprised by how many people are
willing to help.  AND if you have any affiliations with actual rescues, very
often the local lumber yards & little ma & pa hardware stores in the area
will be willing to donate either regular merchandise, or slightly damaged
items that can be still be useful...just not "pretty".  You can also get
ALOT of stuff on the CRAIGS LIST website.  People list items there they want
to get rid of, but don't want to throw awaymost are give-a-ways, some
are up for trade.

It never hurts to ask youth church groups, schools, shops that sell animal
supplies..even vet offices, boarding & grooming businesses.  But if you
approach the schools and church groups, do it correctly, start at the HEAD
of the school, explain in writing what you are looking to do and WHY, try to
find some educational value in it for those who would help.

If you are in need of  blankets or throws for your rescues...contact an
assisted living care facility.  Offer to maybe give a talk to the residents
about felv+, show pictures of your cats, or if they have the temperment and
are up on shots, to bring them in to visit.  Talk with them about what you
do, what you need...if you supplie the raw materials, and can find a
resident or two there who love cats and can say knitt or sew...perhaps you
can sit with them and make blankets or throws that

Re: Rude Ranch -ideas for getting HELP

[tamara stickler]

Well, three of my volunteers have now moved out of state (have since gone off 
to college), and the other two now have their hands full with their two new 
children, one of which is a Down's Synd. baby...where are you?
   
  I found the kids willing to help that time at one of the high schools in the 
area.  They have to do community service to graduate in Maryland.  Not all of 
the kids want to work at church, or are comfortable helping at a soup kitchen, 
and there are quite a lot of young adults who love animals and are very into 
activism, but are limited as to how much they can do first hand because they 
still live with mom & dad.  BUT, if you contact the local high schools & 
churches in your areas, you'd be surprised by how many people are willing to 
help.  AND if you have any affiliations with actual rescues, very often the 
local lumber yards & little ma & pa hardware stores in the area will be willing 
to donate either regular merchandise, or slightly damaged items that can be 
still be useful...just not "pretty".  You can also get ALOT of stuff on the 
CRAIGS LIST website.  People list items there they want to get rid of, but 
don't want to throw awaymost are give-a-ways, some are up for
 trade.
   
  It never hurts to ask youth church groups, schools, shops that sell animal 
supplies..even vet offices, boarding & grooming businesses.  But if you 
approach the schools and church groups, do it correctly, start at the HEAD of 
the school, explain in writing what you are looking to do and WHY, try to find 
some educational value in it for those who would help.
   
  If you are in need of  blankets or throws for your rescues...contact an 
assisted living care facility.  Offer to maybe give a talk to the residents 
about felv+, show pictures of your cats, or if they have the temperment and are 
up on shots, to bring them in to visit.  Talk with them about what you do, what 
you need...if you supplie the raw materials, and can find a resident or two 
there who love cats and can say knitt or sew...perhaps you can sit with them 
and make blankets or throws that you need.  ALWAYS remember tho to bring 
pictures back to your helpers of your critter using the items they made or 
donated.
   
  In that instance where I offered to help the woman who had offered to take 
Simms, I did so because I would have been making the living space more livable 
for an animal that had been in my care (and that I WANTED desparately to keep, 
but couldn't for space reasons (VERY small aptcondo Nazi's already all over 
me b/c I had too many...three of which were already special needs 
critters...etc...), I was willing to put the supplies I couldn't get donated on 
my charge card.  As it is, I used that money to drive the cat across 4 states 
to a better home.
   
  T

Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  No kidding!  That was exactly what was going through my mind when reading 
Tamara's offer of help.  I'm always wishing help like that would fall out of 
the sky and into my lap!

Susan Hoffman wrote:   Ummm, would you and your volunteers like to come give me 
a hand at MY place?  I'll accept!

tamara stickler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
  I agree.  That's what scared me about the woman who originally agreed to take 
Simms.  After seeing her place, I called her back and told her I had five 
volunteers lined up who had agreed to come help her finish insulating the 
garage where she kept the felv+ cats, build new cat trees and levels for them 
and her healthy foster cats and even help her husband build the larger shed he 
told me he wanted to build for the healthy foster cats that she had.  I told 
her all her hubby had to do was get us a list of the materials he needed, give 
us a weekend or two when it would be good for them, and we'd be there.


 
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Re: Bart

[Sherry DeHaan]

Patti,Bart was so lucky that he had you for a guardian to look after him.Take 
care.
  Sherry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, concerns and prayers for 
Bart and me.
  After I sent that post about my feral friend, (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I DID 
go out to barn & struggled (very hard ) to get him in a large crate and into 
secluded area of house I hated having to lift him, he was so painful, but I 
couldn't stand the thought of him being so sick & inside the barn, no matter 
how well I "thought" I had insulated it.. 
   
  The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS.  I was with him when he crossed the 
bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him.  How strange is that???  He was 
certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I ever came across in all my 
years  And, very, very savvy.  Never could trap him over the past two 
years. (I even got info. from Nina on an alternative method.)
  I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their trust, Charity "led" me 
to him in the blizzard She knew he needed help, so she turned to me.  Even 
when I had my Rottie (who does like cats, just freaked over a "strange" one in 
her territory), out on leash.. The way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus 
out of me, but Charity would not give up..When I look back, I am so very 
thankful that none of us got hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off 
leash & Charity not being challenged by my very large, very territorial, 
Rottie).  I am also very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity & Bart 
into my care.
   
  At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, of course, but he kept 
looking at me and I just "knew"
  He had an abdomen so very full of fluid.  Unbelievable.  The vet did pull out 
alot, but I finally asked him to stop.  Besides the fluid in his belly, Bart's 
gums were almost white.NOT a good sign.  And, he had quite a few abscessed 
teeth, and was already "missing" quite a few..
  His "vision" was also questionable..
  My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to lay down, but just 
couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table.   Broke my heart..
  Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities" of Bart recovering... 
He explained that although it was almost a textbook case of "wet FIP" (which 
would mean regular draining), he also was most assuredly very anemic.  Epogen, 
transfusions. Also, he "explained" it "could be", lymphosarcoma, 
cardio-vascular, liver, kidneys - I'm sure you all get the picture.  His 
prognosis was very poor, with NO guarantees.
  I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my babies, so I made the 
dreaded decision..
  My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the euthanasia solution, and 
Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I stroked him & kissed his (big "ole) 
head..
  Not a good day.. I HATE having to "play God"..
  And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a feral/stray..
  Just absolutely heartbreaking.  No other words can explain it...
  Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest of my charges are 
counting on me.  Can't let them down.  I'm all they have,,,  And, they are 
my world.
  As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add Bart to next CLS.
  I will also "try" to e-mail those of you who I have corresponded with off 
list.  Just, please forgive me if I don't get to it tonight
  You are the most wonderful, supportive, loving group of folks out there.. 
I am very thankful to be a part of this group.  Really.
  Hugs,
  
  (A Very Sad) Patti & her clan
  


 
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