Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella
Yes, Doxy needs to be taken w/ food, it can cause damage otherwise. I believe to the esophagus. (someone jump in here and help me). I used to hide Serenity's in baby food, but only use the turkey or chicken w/ gravey. No ham, too much salt. Cats LOVE baby food. And my vet also compounds it, so that it's a liquid and he adds fish, chicken or turkey flavoring to it. Doxy tastes really, really bad. I taste ALL of my cats' meds to see what they are up against. My 3 cats that are permanently on Zithromax (every 3rd day) have theirs compounded for flavor also, even though Zith doesn't tastes bad. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:36 PM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella Look at the information Caroline has re anemia. It may not apply to the specific kind Isabella has but the food--raw chicken livers and lean, raw hamburger (yuck)--may make her feel better. So may the supplements. Check with her. A personal note: Doxy makes my stomach very upset and I need lots of probiotics when I am taking it. I have to believe it does the same to a cat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis
Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
Caroline, Marylyn is correct. You are very stressed abd you are dealing w/ this emotionally too. Please do not beat yourself up, you did not give Monkee this disease. I know easier said than done. I was a total basket case w/ Serenity, and still cry to this day. I actually thought, she was the cat that love could save. Isn't that the stupidest thing you have ever heard? I guess because she had been against such odds, Someone's breeding stock living in squalor w 65 others house fire that could have killed them all being scooped up and placed in a high kill shelter, subjected to new viruses germs horrible URI severe ringworm After I got her over her URI ringworm she began to flourish. She was no longer scared of me, and enjoyed her new life. Well, it just wasn't meant to be, for me or her. I just look back @ what I learned from the situation, that taking care of felv+ cats takes a special kinda purrson. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues You would have thought of it but you are extremely stressed. That is why I am being so detailed on some things. I know how I am when my little friends are having problems. Be very gentle with yourself right now. Very gentle. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis -. Play now!
Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella
If you give the doxy pills, and they get caught in their throat, it can burn the esophagas. That's what I have heard. It's can be a very caustic med. That's why compounding is the way to go if possible. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:50 AM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella Yes, Doxy needs to be taken w/ food, it can cause damage otherwise. I believe to the esophagus. (someone jump in here and help me). I used to hide Serenity's in baby food, but only use the turkey or chicken w/ gravey. No ham, too much salt. Cats LOVE baby food. And my vet also compounds it, so that it's a liquid and he adds fish, chicken or turkey flavoring to it. Doxy tastes really, really bad. I taste ALL of my cats' meds to see what they are up against. My 3 cats that are permanently on Zithromax (every 3rd day) have theirs compounded for flavor also, even though Zith doesn't tastes bad. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:36 PM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella Look at the information Caroline has re anemia. It may not apply to the specific kind Isabella has but the food--raw chicken livers and lean, raw hamburger (yuck)--may make her feel better. So may the supplements. Check with her. A personal note: Doxy makes my stomach very upset and I need lots of probiotics when I am taking it. I have to believe it does the same to a cat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis
Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella
Also, try some Brewer's Yeast sprinkled onto their food. Most cats REALLY love brewer's yeast. My Tabitha will steal the pills from my nightly vitamin nightcap. It's full of B vitamins, can't hurt them. I sprinkle a tablespoon onto all of my cats dry bowls after I fill them up. (They have REALLY big bowls, REALLY big) I used the TwinLab SuperRich Yeast Plus. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:36 PM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella Look at the information Caroline has re anemia. It may not apply to the specific kind Isabella has but the food--raw chicken livers and lean, raw hamburger (yuck)--may make her feel better. So may the supplements. Check with her. A personal note: Doxy makes my stomach very upset and I need lots of probiotics when I am taking it. I have to believe it does the same to a cat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis
Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella
I buy nutritional yeast in bulk at the health food store - I love it, used to give it to the kitties and forgot till you reminded me, so will start that again... so Thanks! Gloria On Jul 3, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Susan Dubose wrote: Also, try some Brewer's Yeast sprinkled onto their food. Most cats REALLY love brewer's yeast. My Tabitha will steal the pills from my nightly vitamin nightcap. It's full of B vitamins, can't hurt them. I sprinkle a tablespoon onto all of my cats dry bowls after I fill them up. (They have REALLY big bowls, REALLY big) I used the TwinLab SuperRich Yeast Plus. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:36 PM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella Look at the information Caroline has re anemia. It may not apply to the specific kind Isabella has but the food--raw chicken livers and lean, raw hamburger (yuck)--may make her feel better. So may the supplements. Check with her. A personal note: Doxy makes my stomach very upset and I need lots of probiotics when I am taking it. I have to believe it does the same to a cat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis
RE: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella
Is Brewer's Yeast the same as Nutritional Yeast? I use that on my popcorn instead of butter/margarine-plus it's got iron that I need-never thought about sprinkling it on the cat food. Would I risk giving them too much iron? I know there's a warning on the side that cautions against giving too much to children. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 7:39 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella Also, try some Brewer's Yeast sprinkled onto their food. Most cats REALLY love brewer's yeast. My Tabitha will steal the pills from my nightly vitamin nightcap. It's full of B vitamins, can't hurt them. I sprinkle a tablespoon onto all of my cats dry bowls after I fill them up. (They have REALLY big bowls, REALLY big) I used the TwinLab SuperRich Yeast Plus. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:36 PM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella Look at the information Caroline has re anemia. It may not apply to the specific kind Isabella has but the food--raw chicken livers and lean, raw hamburger (yuck)--may make her feel better. So may the supplements. Check with her. A personal note: Doxy makes my stomach very upset and I need lots of probiotics when I am taking it. I have to believe it does the same to a cat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis
OT: RE: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
Caroline, I think that's great that you don't have a microwave. I've been thinking about pitching ours, but I'm sure my husband would object. Maybe it'll wear out eventually and I can phase it out. When I was in college, I didn't use a microwave, and I felt so much more resourceful, and I felt it was healthier. I'm not sure if it is or not, but I don't think it adds anything to our lives, if anything it only contributes to our hectic lifestyle-gas cooking makes us take a break and have patience-I enjoy the food better. Now if I could only convince my husband that microwave dinners are detrimental to his health. Sorry I didn't move this to the OT site! Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues Oh my god! Great idea! I will warm his chicken livers using a bowl of warm water! That seems so simple, I can't believe I didn't think about it! Yeah, I don't own a microwave, so I almost never feed him re-heated food. If and when I do reheat, I use my gas oven because it heats so nicely and so fast. But there was NO WAY I was going to put chicken livers in the gas oven (eww), so thank you so much for the tip! -Caroline _ From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 20:43:46 -0500 - Original Message - From: Marylyn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues A thought: Check with Susan re probiotics if BMs are/become an issue. Also Apple Pectin (ok, one for each extreme). The thing is if you have relatively inexpensive things at hand you will feel better. More prepared and in control. Cats seem to like things at room temperature or a little warmer (like setting a bowl of livers in a bowl of hot water for a few minutes---I don't use a microwave with Dixie's food--ask Susan about that). Monkee may just have thought they were too cold to eat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: RE: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues I am happy to report that I am home from work and now able to assess Monkee's condition today- what with him being off the appetite stim. He ate while I was at work and then my mom came to check on him around 5:30 and fixed him chicken livers. He did not eat them at first, but as soon as I came home, he ate! Then he had a BM!!! And it was a totally normal one. He hadn't gone in a while, so I was starting to get worried and that was a load off (haha). AND, he's clearly having another good day- he's all bright and perky and he was doing a little running (which I told him not to do- he doesn't listen). So, we are both doing much better-- me- emotionally, Monkee-physically. Dede- that made me really happy to hear that someone got the name! People (well, and by people I mean Monkee's past vets), are always spelling it Monkey. And I have to say, no, it's Monkee- like the The Monkee's- the band! He was named that because he looks like a Monkey in the face- he has a black batman cap around his head and ears, and a white patch just in the very middle of his face that covers his nose and mouth just over the brow, so it has the effect of him having a monkey-face. But I wanted to make it extra cute by adding a twist to the spelling (plus, I had a slight Monkee's obsession as a kid thanks to syndication on Nickelodeon!). -Caroline _ Need a http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2728??PS=47575 brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now!
Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella
I won't give anything that will effect her appetite. A kitten we rescued had anorexia which we finally attributed to one of the meds he was taking. The one thing we have going in our favor is she is still eating. L - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:58 PM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella The note on the Doxy was not to discourage the use just to make sure the side effects are noted and coped with.especially the intestinal disturbances. A diarrhea can cause all sorts of problems in an immune compromised cat and an upset stomach needs soothing so she can eat and gain/retain weight. I have no comment on the selection of the meds themselves. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:06 PM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella I think the meds are a wise choice. I hope she responds to the treatment? Any hope that he will give her Epogen? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 9:36:39 PM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella Look at the information Caroline has re anemia. It may not apply to the specific kind Isabella has but the food--raw chicken livers and lean, raw hamburger (yuck)--may make her feel better. So may the supplements. Check with her. A personal note: Doxy makes my stomach very upset and I need lots of probiotics when I am taking it. I have to believe it does the same to a cat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella Hi. I have not seen much discussion about prednisone. This and doxy are what my vet is recommending. He is willing to also try IR. Isa has been more lethargic the past few days. Am taking her tomorrow for weight and temp check. She is still eating ~more like grazing. Any thoughts on the pred? Doxy? Her anemia is non-regenerative. Thanks Laurie Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
OT: Interested in a Bobtail?
Disclaimer: I know this is very OT, but my computer at home checks the OT list, and I've only got time to write this at work, plus, it seems to me that there aren't very many who read or post on the OT list. I'm not sure why that is.but I'll be sure to forward this to my home address and post it on OT later. Anyway, delete if you aren't interested in reading about my NON-FeLV bobtail (or is it Manx?-I don't know the difference). Well, Nonie is one of my foster cats that I got back in April. Three strays found me in one week. Two are still at home. Cassidy, the one with FeLV, went to Best Friends and is the reason I joined this list. Nonie and Ashley are still looking for a forever home. It's tough in these parts where cat lovers are few and far between and farm cats are the only kind most people tolerate since they don't have to really take care of them. Anyhow, I'm still trying to get Ashley healthy before she gets a new home, but Nonie is very healthy, rambunctious, and cute. She's a bobtail tabby (who likes to take showers with us), and I didn't know if there are people who specifically look for those types of cats? Like all-white, all-black cats, Siamese, etc., I figured there must be people who prefer bobtails. Do any of you know of such? I really need to find these guys a home. We're spending over $90 in litter a month, which is pricey for us. I've finally broke down and bought less expensive litter, but I still have to feed the expensive food to all (since one of my cats needs it, so all get it). I don't cook for us very much since we're gone all the time in the summer, so I don't have time to cook for the kitties (but plan to in the fall/winter). I'm rambling, I know, sorry! I am just looking for some resources and a good home for Nonie. I'm pretty much willing to travel anywhere, but a home in the Plains/Midwest would be easiest for me. But, I'll travel anywhere for the right home. And, no, she's not a give-a-way (unless to a home with outstanding references). Sorry to bother you guys with this. I know that there are kitties pts everyday who don't have good homes (and Nonie has a good home right now), and you all have your feline limits most likely, but I'm just looking for ideas. I'm fairly new to the cat rescue world-and I've found that you guys know a lot more that I do! Thanks for listening! Melissa, Nonie, Ashley, Bandit, Angel, and Baby Smokey.
Re: RE: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
There are real questions about microwaves and health.I'm not up on what they are but enough people I trust won't touch one. I haven't gone that far but will not use one with Dixie. And I won't use plastic in a microwave. And government assurances make me even more leery. Brewer's Yeast is wonderful but please add it a little at a time. At least with dogs, too much to begin with can cause very unpleasant intestinal discomfort. It makes their coats soft and cuts down on shedding too...again in dogs. I'll have to try it on Dixie. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: OT: RE: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues Caroline, I think that's great that you don't have a microwave. I've been thinking about pitching ours, but I'm sure my husband would object. Maybe it'll wear out eventually and I can phase it out. When I was in college, I didn't use a microwave, and I felt so much more resourceful, and I felt it was healthier. I'm not sure if it is or not, but I don't think it adds anything to our lives, if anything it only contributes to our hectic lifestyle-gas cooking makes us take a break and have patience-I enjoy the food better. Now if I could only convince my husband that microwave dinners are detrimental to his health. Sorry I didn't move this to the OT site! Melissa -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues Oh my god! Great idea! I will warm his chicken livers using a bowl of warm water! That seems so simple, I can't believe I didn't think about it! Yeah, I don't own a microwave, so I almost never feed him re-heated food. If and when I do reheat, I use my gas oven because it heats so nicely and so fast. But there was NO WAY I was going to put chicken livers in the gas oven (eww), so thank you so much for the tip! -Caroline From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 20:43:46 -0500 - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues A thought: Check with Susan re probiotics if BMs are/become an issue. Also Apple Pectin (ok, one for each extreme). The thing is if you have relatively inexpensive things at hand you will feel better. More prepared and in control. Cats seem to like things at room temperature or a little warmer (like setting a bowl of livers in a bowl of hot water for a few minutes---I don't use a microwave with Dixie's food--ask Susan about that). Monkee may just have thought they were too cold to eat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: RE: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues I am happy to report that I am home from work and now able to assess Monkee's condition today- what with him being off the appetite stim. He ate while I was at work and then my mom came to check on him around 5:30 and fixed him chicken livers. He did not eat them at first, but as soon as I came home, he ate! Then he had a BM!!! And it was a totally normal one. He hadn't gone in a while, so I was starting to get worried and that was a load off (haha). AND, he's clearly having another good day- he's all bright and perky and he was doing a little running (which I told him not to do- he doesn't listen). So, we are both doing much better-- me-
Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella
You may be able to counter problems with the probiotics..look to others on the list for guidance here. I believe some mentioned compounding. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:16 AM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella I won't give anything that will effect her appetite. A kitten we rescued had anorexia which we finally attributed to one of the meds he was taking. The one thing we have going in our favor is she is still eating. L - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:58 PM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella The note on the Doxy was not to discourage the use just to make sure the side effects are noted and coped with.especially the intestinal disturbances. A diarrhea can cause all sorts of problems in an immune compromised cat and an upset stomach needs soothing so she can eat and gain/retain weight. I have no comment on the selection of the meds themselves. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:06 PM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella I think the meds are a wise choice. I hope she responds to the treatment? Any hope that he will give her Epogen? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 9:36:39 PM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella Look at the information Caroline has re anemia. It may not apply to the specific kind Isabella has but the food--raw chicken livers and lean, raw hamburger (yuck)--may make her feel better. So may the supplements. Check with her. A personal note: Doxy makes my stomach very upset and I need lots of probiotics when I am taking it. I have to believe it does the same to a cat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella Hi. I have not seen much discussion about prednisone. This and doxy are what my vet is recommending. He is willing to also try IR. Isa has been more lethargic the past few days. Am taking her tomorrow for weight and temp check. She is still eating ~more like grazing. Any thoughts on the pred? Doxy? Her anemia is non-regenerative. Thanks Laurie -- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella
Thanks for all the input. I appreciate it.Our vet compounds and flavors the doxy. I have also consulted the internal medicine specialist and am awaiting her reply. I find that everyone (vets) has a different opinion about what to do for feleuk+ kittys who are symptomatic. Isabella's fever yo-yos which makes it hard to know what to do next. I have some probiotics here..Good reminder. Thank-you L
Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella
The prednisone will do a lot to help her feel better. On 7/2/07, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I have not seen much discussion about prednisone. This and doxy are what my vet is recommending. He is willing to also try IR. Isa has been more lethargic the past few days. Am taking her tomorrow for weight and temp check. She is still eating ~more like grazing. Any thoughts on the pred? Doxy? Her anemia is non-regenerative. Thanks Laurie
OT vestibular disorders -
Hi, if anyone knows a support group for feline vestibualr disorders -- please send me the link - thank you.
Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella
I prefer to use predisolone over prednisone - it works as well, but predisolone is easier on their liver, I think. - Original Message - From: elizabeth trentmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:03 AM Subject: Re: vet recommending doxy and pred for Isabella The prednisone will do a lot to help her feel better. On 7/2/07, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I have not seen much discussion about prednisone. This and doxy are what my vet is recommending. He is willing to also try IR. Isa has been more lethargic the past few days. Am taking her tomorrow for weight and temp check. She is still eating ~more like grazing. Any thoughts on the pred? Doxy? Her anemia is non-regenerative. Thanks Laurie
Re: Anemia Issues
Any vet can do transfusion if they are willing to do -- that's all it takes willingness to accommodate -- I have gotten transfusions for a several times for three different kitties of mine... the only place that I knew in my city that did transfusion was emergency clinic and charged for about $500 each time - and I so hated to go there -- the people are usually rude and arrogant and usually have to wait for a few hours to be seen -- and they won't let me be with my cat -- so I called the feline blood bank to inquire and they told me that it is a very simple procedure -- if a vet is equipped to give IV, they can give transfusions no problem.. the instruction comes with the blood -- so my vet offered to start offering transfusion service after I talkd to her -- it's great -- she let me stay wity my cat the whole time and don't have to wait around or anything...so if your regular vet does not currently offer to give transfusions -- something to think about -- I can give you the phone number of the blood bank I use to get blood regularly.. I pay for blood with my own credit card and it cost about $200, but the vet only charges $40 to give a transfusion.. - Original Message - From: Marylynmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:45 AM Subject: Re: Anemia Issues OK: Here is more information to take or leave as you chose. Dr. Daley is a very good vet and so are the people who work there. That being said, they are specialists and have trouble seeing beyond the science into the whole. The Royal Princess Kitty Katt had cancer that spread pretty rapidly. One of the doctors who works there saw her several times (she hated the place too and he would not let me be with her when they drew blood etc) and wanted to put her on chemo. He gave her a couple of months at the outside if she didn't get it. I went to my vets at MAC and we had a long conversation. Kitty did not get chemo and she had 14 months of very high quality life until she left this world on her own. She, too, hated car rides (especially after a school bus driver plowed into her side of the Jeep) and vets. Dr. Kohler and I spent a long time talking about the ups, downs, rights, wrongs etc and, as I said before, decided against chemo and to let Kitty leave this world on her own if she wanted to. I have never regretted either decision. Watch that carrier trick. He could try that in a parking lot and you would have big trouble. There are other places to get blood transfusions if you don't feel comfortable at Dr. Daley's. They are very good at what they do and I would certainly go back there for treatment if the situation called for it but, like all of us, they have their focuses. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonyamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: Re: Anemia Issues Hi Caroline, It sounds like you're doing everything you can. I'm sure by now someone has mentioned taking doxy in case it's hemobartonella. If it's not hemobart the anemia is hard to beat, but there are people on the list who have bought 'good' time for their cats with various methods. 13 pounds is a good weight, and his behavior sounds good too. I hope the best for Monkee. tonya Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. I wanted to provide an update on my FeLV pos. and lymphosarcoma cat Monkee. He saw his Vet yesterday to determine whether the Epogen had helped his anemia. The news was very bad. Apparently last week, when the anemia started, his Red Blood cell count was 13%. After a week ( 3 doses of the Epogen), his RBC count was actually worse, 10%. However, Monkee's White Blood Cell count is normal (it was down last week) and his lymphocyte count is normal. Dr. Daley also found a lymph node in his groin that is enlarged (but it can't be felt from the outside- it runs along the artery in the leg). His Vet said she thinks the FeLV is causing the problem, or it could be the lymphosarcoma, but when pressed, she said that she honestly doubted it was the cancer. She presented 3 options: (1) a bone marrow aspirate/biopsy to determine what is going on at the cellular level; however, it is invasive and Monkee would need sedation- which he couldn't get anyway while so anemic (so he'd need a blood transfusion 1st, just to be able to do the biospy);
ifa or snap?
Ashley tested negative for FeLV in April with the ELISA test. I want to get her retested to confirm. My new vet's office uses the Snap test, but I have the option to have an IFA done. What do you suggest? Melissa She also has a periodontal disease (just found out today-old vet never told me), but I can't remember the name of the disease. It has caused many of her front teeth to fall out, and may eventually affect her back teeth. The vet said that little is understood about this disease just yet, but researchers are working on it (she learned this from her friend at Kent U.). Anyone had any experience with this?
Re: Anemia Issues
That would be very helpful because if Monkee needs another transfusion, I can't afford to get it at Dr. Daley's again. It did cost about $500 and I could only pay for half of it- which they were NOT happy about "allowing" me to do. But if we do another one, it will not be there. And at that place, there is no "being with" the cat. Everything they do with is away in the back rooms (chemo, drawing blood, the transfusion, everything). Which I hate because I worked in my dad's vet clinic from the time I could walk and I have held off veins in cats/dogs for blood drawing, prepared slides, developed x-ray film,helped cleaned teeth (my dad totally should not have let us do that, but he did!), and assisted in whatever surgery I wanted to assist in etc. So it seems pretty stupid to me when they take my cat from me to work on him when he would much rather have me there with him and I can practically do anything any of the techs could do anyway. I kind of let this go though because I just wanted him to get good care and so I tried not to sweat the small stuff. -Caroline From: "HIDEYO YAMAMOTO" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Anemia IssuesDate: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:00:49 -0600 Any vet can do transfusion if they are willing to do -- that's all it takes "willingness" to accommodate -- I have gotten transfusions for a several times for three different kitties of mine... the only place that I knew in my citythat did transfusion was emergency clinic and charged for about $500 each time - and I so hated to go there -- the people are usually rude and arrogant and usually have to wait for a few hours to be seen -- and they won't let me be with my cat -- so I called the feline blood bank to inquire and they told me that it is a very simple procedure -- if a vet is equipped to give IV, they can give transfusions no problem.. the instruction comes with the blood -- so my vet offered to start offering transfusion service after I talkd to her -- it's great -- she let me stay wity my cat the whole time and don't have to wait around or anything...so if your regular vet does not currently offer to give transfusions -- something to think about -- I can give you the phone number of the blood bank I use to get blood regularly.. I pay for blood with my own credit card and it cost about $200, but the vet only charges $40 to give a transfusion.. - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:45 AM Subject: Re: Anemia Issues OK: Here is more information to take or leave as you chose. Dr. Daley is a very good vet and so are the people who work there. That being said, they are specialists and have trouble seeing beyond the science into the whole. The Royal Princess Kitty Katt had cancer that spread pretty rapidly. One of the doctorswho works there saw her several times (she hated the place too and he would not let me be with her when they drew blood etc) and wanted to put her on chemo. He gave her a couple of months at the outside if she didn't get it. I went to my vets at MAC and we had a long conversation. Kitty did not get chemo and she had 14 months of very high quality life until she left this world on her own. She, too, hated car rides (especially after a school bus driver plowed into her side of the Jeep) and vets. Dr. Kohler and I spent a long time talking about the ups, downs, rights, wrongs etc and, as I said before, decided against chemo and to let Kitty leave this world on her own ifshe wanted to. I have never regretted either decision. Watch that carrier trick. He could try that in a parking lot and you would have big trouble. There are other places to get blood transfusions if you don't feel comfortable at Dr. Daley's. They are very good at what they do and I would certainly go back there for treatment if the situation called for it but, like all of us, they have their focuses. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: Re: Anemia Issues Hi Caroline, It sounds like you're doing everything you can. I'm sure by now someone has mentioned taking doxy in case it's hemobartonella. If it's not hemobart the anemia is hard to beat, but there are people on the list who have bought 'good' time for their cats with various methods. 13 pounds is a good weight, and his behavior sounds good too. I hope the best for Monkee. tonyaCaroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. I wanted to provide an update on my FeLV pos. and lymphosarcoma cat Monkee. He saw his Vet yesterday to determine whether the Epogen had helped his anemia. The news was very bad. Apparently last week, when the anemia started, his Red Blood cell count was 13%.
Re: ifa or snap?
Is it, Lymphocytic plasmacytic stomatitis? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Anemia Issues
See if Susan does transfusions. If not, check with Middletown Animal Clinic (Shelbyville Road next to Mark's Feed Store). My bet is there are other places. Susan should be able to give you some guidance. Just be very honest with her re money. She will understand. I promise. Dr. Daley's group is very expensive. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Anemia Issues That would be very helpful because if Monkee needs another transfusion, I can't afford to get it at Dr. Daley's again. It did cost about $500 and I could only pay for half of it- which they were NOT happy about allowing me to do. But if we do another one, it will not be there. And at that place, there is no being with the cat. Everything they do with is away in the back rooms (chemo, drawing blood, the transfusion, everything). Which I hate because I worked in my dad's vet clinic from the time I could walk and I have held off veins in cats/dogs for blood drawing, prepared slides, developed x-ray film, helped cleaned teeth (my dad totally should not have let us do that, but he did!), and assisted in whatever surgery I wanted to assist in etc. So it seems pretty stupid to me when they take my cat from me to work on him when he would much rather have me there with him and I can practically do anything any of the techs could do anyway. I kind of let this go though because I just wanted him to get good care and so I tried not to sweat the small stuff. -Caroline From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Anemia Issues Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:00:49 -0600 Any vet can do transfusion if they are willing to do -- that's all it takes willingness to accommodate -- I have gotten transfusions for a several times for three different kitties of mine... the only place that I knew in my city that did transfusion was emergency clinic and charged for about $500 each time - and I so hated to go there -- the people are usually rude and arrogant and usually have to wait for a few hours to be seen -- and they won't let me be with my cat -- so I called the feline blood bank to inquire and they told me that it is a very simple procedure -- if a vet is equipped to give IV, they can give transfusions no problem.. the instruction comes with the blood -- so my vet offered to start offering transfusion service after I talkd to her -- it's great -- she let me stay wity my cat the whole time and don't have to wait around or anything...so if your regular vet does not currently offer to give transfusions -- something to think about -- I can give you the phone number of the blood bank I use to get blood regularly.. I pay for blood with my own credit card and it cost about $200, but the vet only charges $40 to give a transfusion.. - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:45 AM Subject: Re: Anemia Issues OK: Here is more information to take or leave as you chose. Dr. Daley is a very good vet and so are the people who work there. That being said, they are specialists and have trouble seeing beyond the science into the whole. The Royal Princess Kitty Katt had cancer that spread pretty rapidly. One of the doctors who works there saw her several times (she hated the place too and he would not let me be with her when they drew blood etc) and wanted to put her on chemo. He gave her a couple of months at the outside if she didn't get it. I went to my vets at MAC and we had a long conversation. Kitty did not get chemo and she had 14 months of very high quality life until she left this world on her own. She, too, hated car rides (especially after a school bus driver plowed into her side of the Jeep) and vets. Dr. Kohler and I spent a long time talking about the ups, downs, rights, wrongs etc and, as I said before, decided against chemo and to let Kitty leave this world on her own if she wanted to. I have never regretted either decision. Watch that carrier trick. He could try that in a parking lot and you would have big trouble. There are other places to get blood transfusions if you don't feel comfortable at Dr. Daley's. They are very good at what they do and I would certainly go back there for treatment
Re: Anemia Issues
I understand -- I think it's sort of control issue -- sometimes, they retratin the cat in certain way that their clients are not comfortable with --or they don't want you to freak out by doing certain exams -- I think they think they can control the cat better if the owner is not there.. Here's the link to the blood bank - your vet still might have to call in -- but what I did, I just let my vet know that it's coming and I pretented like I am one of the stuff and placed an order - make sure to let them know it's priority order as regular/standard order, you will have to wait for a couple of weeks -- with priority, which costs a bit more, but you will get it in during the next couple of days. http://www.animalbloodbank.com/695419.htmlhttp://www.animalbloodbank.com/695419.html - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmannmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:28 AM Subject: Re: Anemia Issues That would be very helpful because if Monkee needs another transfusion, I can't afford to get it at Dr. Daley's again. It did cost about $500 and I could only pay for half of it- which they were NOT happy about allowing me to do. But if we do another one, it will not be there. And at that place, there is no being with the cat. Everything they do with is away in the back rooms (chemo, drawing blood, the transfusion, everything). Which I hate because I worked in my dad's vet clinic from the time I could walk and I have held off veins in cats/dogs for blood drawing, prepared slides, developed x-ray film, helped cleaned teeth (my dad totally should not have let us do that, but he did!), and assisted in whatever surgery I wanted to assist in etc. So it seems pretty stupid to me when they take my cat from me to work on him when he would much rather have me there with him and I can practically do anything any of the techs could do anyway. I kind of let this go though because I just wanted him to get good care and so I tried not to sweat the small stuff. -Caroline From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Anemia Issues Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:00:49 -0600 Any vet can do transfusion if they are willing to do -- that's all it takes willingness to accommodate -- I have gotten transfusions for a several times for three different kitties of mine... the only place that I knew in my city that did transfusion was emergency clinic and charged for about $500 each time - and I so hated to go there -- the people are usually rude and arrogant and usually have to wait for a few hours to be seen -- and they won't let me be with my cat -- so I called the feline blood bank to inquire and they told me that it is a very simple procedure -- if a vet is equipped to give IV, they can give transfusions no problem.. the instruction comes with the blood -- so my vet offered to start offering transfusion service after I talkd to her -- it's great -- she let me stay wity my cat the whole time and don't have to wait around or anything...so if your regular vet does not currently offer to give transfusions -- something to think about -- I can give you the phone number of the blood bank I use to get blood regularly.. I pay for blood with my own credit card and it cost about $200, but the vet only charges $40 to give a transfusion.. - Original Message - From: Marylynmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:45 AM Subject: Re: Anemia Issues OK: Here is more information to take or leave as you chose. Dr. Daley is a very good vet and so are the people who work there. That being said, they are specialists and have trouble seeing beyond the science into the whole. The Royal Princess Kitty Katt had cancer that spread pretty rapidly. One of the doctors who works there saw her several times (she hated the place too and he would not let me be with her when they drew blood etc) and wanted to put her on chemo. He gave her a couple of months at the outside if she didn't get it. I went to my vets at MAC and we had a long conversation. Kitty did not get chemo and she had 14 months of very high quality life until she left this world on her own. She, too, hated car rides (especially after a school bus driver plowed into her side of the Jeep) and vets. Dr. Kohler and I spent a long time talking about the ups, downs, rights, wrongs etc and, as I said before, decided against chemo and to let Kitty leave this world on her own if she wanted to. I have never regretted either decision. Watch that carrier trick. He could try that in a parking lot and you would have big
RE: ifa or snap?
A repeat FeLV test. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: ifa or snap? Is it, Lymphocytic plasmacytic stomatitis? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: ifa or snap?
Hi Melissa, When I said this I was referring to the below. * Is it, Lymphocytic plasmacytic stomatitis?* She also has a periodontal disease (just found out today—old vet never told me), but I can’t remember the name of the disease. It has caused many of her front teeth to fall out, and may eventually affect her back teeth. The vet said that little is understood about this disease just yet, but researchers are working on it (she learned this from her friend at Kent U.). Anyone had any experience with this? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Aha! Stupid me! I'm not sure-I'll find out later today-Thanks! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: ifa or snap? Hi Melissa, When I said this I was referring to the below. Is it, Lymphocytic plasmacytic stomatitis? She also has a periodontal disease (just found out today-old vet never told me), but I can't remember the name of the disease. It has caused many of her front teeth to fall out, and may eventually affect her back teeth. The vet said that little is understood about this disease just yet, but researchers are working on it (she learned this from her friend at Kent U.). Anyone had any experience with this? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
stomatitis
My cat has been diagnosed with stomatitis. I had not known it was called Lymphocytic plasmacytic stomatitis. She is a year old and positive. We got her four months ago. Her gums were inflamed and very swollen and her breath was very bad. My vet prescribed Maitake DMG, and FloriForta ( a probiotic) and she has made good progress. Marylyn knows of a stomatitis group and has recommended Just Born and Brush Away (which I just ordered). You might ask Marylyn about the stomatitis group. Hope you can get her help. Jane
Re: To Susan re. lysine
Propylene Glycol is associated with Heinz body anemia (clumping hemoglobin which leads to anemia) in cats; also with reduced RBC'sg. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 7:10:32 PM Subject: Re: To Susan re. lysine Egads! Why would they do that? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: elizabeth trent To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: Re: To Susan re. lysine propylene glycol is in antifreeze -- i'm surprized they use that in the human supplements! Propylene glycol is metabolized to lactate. In toxic quantities, acidosis, liver damage, and renal insufficiency are possible. Clinical signs of a propylene glycol toxicoses include CNS depression, weakness, ataxia, and seizures. With large ingestion, diuresis and supportive care, such as treatment for acidosis, should be given. The usefulness of 4MP (Fomepizole) for treating PG toxicosis is not known and treatment with ethanol may cause more problems in relation to the development of acidosis. http://www.vspn.org/Library/misc/VSPN_M00981.htm On 7/2/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Wendy! What kinda blood issues can propylene glycol cause? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: stomatitis
Try: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Stomatitis One or the other should get you to the page where you register. If not, please let me know and I'll try something else. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:36 PM Subject: stomatitis My cat has been diagnosed with stomatitis. I had not known it was called Lymphocytic plasmacytic stomatitis. She is a year old and positive. We got her four months ago. Her gums were inflamed and very swollen and her breath was very bad. My vet prescribed Maitake DMG, and FloriForta ( a probiotic) and she has made good progress. Marylyn knows of a stomatitis group and has recommended Just Born and Brush Away (which I just ordered). You might ask Marylyn about the stomatitis group. Hope you can get her help. Jane
Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
Caroline, I hope Monkee is having the time of his life today. He is such a trooper! Prayers going out that you get the help you need for him. He's lucky to have you. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 9:07:50 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues Oh my god! Great idea! I will warm his chicken livers using a bowl of warm water! That seems so simple, I can't believe I didn't think about it! Yeah, I don't own a microwave, so I almost never feed him re-heated food. If and when I do reheat, I use my gas oven because it heats so nicely and so fast. But there was NO WAY I was going to put chicken livers in the gas oven (eww), so thank you so much for the tip! -Caroline From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 20:43:46 -0500 - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues A thought: Check with Susan re probiotics if BMs are/become an issue. Also Apple Pectin (ok, one for each extreme). The thing is if you have relatively inexpensive things at hand you will feel better. More prepared and in control. Cats seem to like things at room temperature or a little warmer (like setting a bowl of livers in a bowl of hot water for a few minutes---I don't use a microwave with Dixie's food--ask Susan about that). Monkee may just have thought they were too cold to eat. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: RE: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues I am happy to report that I am home from work and now able to assess Monkee's condition today- what with him being off the appetite stim. He ate while I was at work and then my mom came to check on him around 5:30 and fixed him chicken livers. He did not eat them at first, but as soon as I came home, he ate! Then he had a BM!!! And it was a totally normal one. He hadn't gone in a while, so I was starting to get worried and that was a load off (haha). AND, he's clearly having another good day- he's all bright and perky and he was doing a little running (which I told him not to do- he doesn't listen). So, we are both doing much better-- me- emotionally, Monkee-physically. Dede- that made me really happy to hear that someone got the name! People (well, and by people I mean Monkee's past vets), are always spelling it Monkey. And I have to say, no, it's Monkee- like the The Monkee's- the band! He was named that because he looks like a Monkey in the face- he has a black batman cap around his head and ears, and a white patch just in the very middle of his face that covers his nose and mouth just over the brow, so it has the effect of him having a monkey-face. But I wanted to make it extra cute by adding a twist to the spelling (plus, I had a slight Monkee's obsession as a kid thanks to syndication on Nickelodeon!). -Caroline Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now! We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265
To Malone
Hi Malone, I just got this email (my Yahoo is acting weird). I am so sorry to hear about your sweet kitty that you lost. That is so hard. I hope this site is a good source of info. for you. Please post anymore questions you may have. And don't believe everything your vet tells you about this virus; ask us before you make any important decisions. We've learned that the hard way here. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:26:30 PM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge (MaryChristine) am really new to this whole situation. Adopted an abandoned tuxie and at 9 months he just got sick. 2 days later he was in massive shock and unable to survive much more. My vet put him down while I held him. He told me he tested positive for Felv. I then brought in my others a 3 year old and a 4 year old. My 4 year old female is negative. My 3 year old male is positive. I have had both since they were kittens and they have always received all vaccinations yearly. I brought a kitten in that was a mess and he spent a week at the vet just trying to save him. He did initially test negative for Felv. He had also received his shots. I don’t know what to think, but I am living proof you can vaccinate your cats for years and they can contract this virus. My boy is doing well now. He seems perfectly healthy. I don’t know much about this virus but I have learned that vaccinations do not always work. Elizabeth Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
SNAP test and IFAs
Hi Melissa, At the sanctuary where I work, all Felv cats are tested with both SNAP and IFA tests. And because of that, we occasionally get a few cats that test faint positive in the SNAP and negative for the IFA. Then they go home with me, because they're kind of in limbo.That's why I joined this list: I'd like to know if anyone else has a bipolar cat, as they call them, and what to expect regarding life expectancy, etc. Anyway, with regardto your cat, I'd go for the IFA test, just to be sure. It would be good to know your cat is completely negative (and cause for major congratulations). Is she a young cat? Sometimes they seroconvert in the first 18 months. It's supposed to be rare, but I've seen it happen. Laura See what youre getting into before you go there
Re: Ki is an Angel
Thank you for the thoughts Gloria. It means a lot. Dede --- Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dede, I am So.o.o sorry that you're baby has gone on to the Bridge. I know he's still with you in many ways, what a blessing. My thoughts are with you and Ki. Gloria It is with the heaviest of hearts that I let you know Ki left this world at 10 this AM. ... When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Isabella update
Isabella saw the vet today. Her weight is 8.9 (it was this high one other time) and her HCT was up to 22 from 20. Her other red counts were slightly elevated as well. We cannot kick the fever. She was up to 104.9 from 104.2 a week ago. Her 7 days on interferon ended last night. She was very quiet at the vet's and shivering the entire time. The vet said she looked worse than last week to him. We started prednisone, gave fluids and a Vitamin B shot. When we got home she ate a good serving of canned food. Vet wants to touch base on Thursday for next steps. I decided agst doxy at this time because it can cause appetite issues and I don't want to risk that. Thanks for all the suggestions which I have shared with my vet. Laurie
Re: Isabella update
Of course she is frightened. She knows what power he has. Ask Dixie. When there is something serious going on she trembles. When I am thinking about taking her to the vets' and she is fine (or is dead set again going) she spends lots of time showing me how healthy she is. Ebony did the same thing. Is there anything to culture and test or is he using/trying to use a broad spectrum antibiotic in hopes of getting whatever is causing the fever? Just curious..is compounding the doxy an option? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: Isabella update Isabella saw the vet today. Her weight is 8.9 (it was this high one other time) and her HCT was up to 22 from 20. Her other red counts were slightly elevated as well. We cannot kick the fever. She was up to 104.9 from 104.2 a week ago. Her 7 days on interferon ended last night. She was very quiet at the vet's and shivering the entire time. The vet said she looked worse than last week to him. We started prednisone, gave fluids and a Vitamin B shot. When we got home she ate a good serving of canned food. Vet wants to touch base on Thursday for next steps. I decided agst doxy at this time because it can cause appetite issues and I don't want to risk that. Thanks for all the suggestions which I have shared with my vet. Laurie
Re: Isabella update
Marylyn, yes he can get the doxy compounded. I am reluctant to use it because it can cause anorexia.I am so afraid of her stopping eating...I asked him to look at her blood for hemobart but he neglected to tell me if he saw something (and I forgot to ask). Isa started shivering when he took her temp and shivered in my lap for the rest of our time there. She was crying when they were giving her fluids. Broke my heart. He is trying to treat the fever and does not know why she has it. He says the low RBC is part of the leukemia and pred might stop the body from attacking red cells IF that is what is going on. She has no symptoms other than the fever and lethargy. Normal stools, normal appetite, normal urine output. No runny nose or eyes. She did have a healing wound on the top of her head when rescued. He said she'd have an abscess if this was the cause of the fever. I suspect it is the reason for the feline leukemia. One thing that strikes me is she will often cry out for no apparent reason. She rolled onto her back today and cried out. Sometimes she will cry out if you just touch her. I told the vet but he could find nothing on exam.her foster mom reports that she stretches her rear legs alot. I suspect it could be stiffness from inactivity but who knows. When she first came, she seemed to lay down clumsily, favroing one rear leg. The vet checked out her rear legs and found nothing wrong. L - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update Of course she is frightened. She knows what power he has. Ask Dixie. When there is something serious going on she trembles. When I am thinking about taking her to the vets' and she is fine (or is dead set again going) she spends lots of time showing me how healthy she is. Ebony did the same thing. Is there anything to culture and test or is he using/trying to use a broad spectrum antibiotic in hopes of getting whatever is causing the fever? Just curious..is compounding the doxy an option? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: Isabella update Isabella saw the vet today. Her weight is 8.9 (it was this high one other time) and her HCT was up to 22 from 20. Her other red counts were slightly elevated as well. We cannot kick the fever. She was up to 104.9 from 104.2 a week ago. Her 7 days on interferon ended last night. She was very quiet at the vet's and shivering the entire time. The vet said she looked worse than last week to him. We started prednisone, gave fluids and a Vitamin B shot. When we got home she ate a good serving of canned food. Vet wants to touch base on Thursday for next steps. I decided agst doxy at this time because it can cause appetite issues and I don't want to risk that. Thanks for all the suggestions which I have shared with my vet. Laurie
Re: Isabella update
Some of this makes no sense to me (only in light of experiences with my own critters--not saying he is wrong). Dixie got hot spots that were raw, not abscessed, and they caused a bunch of problems. I wish you had a holistic vet close by..just to have another style practitioner take a look. I am so sorry you both are going thru this. I know how totally frustrating it is and how helpless you feel. You can give probiotics without causing harm. I don't know if they would do any good but they might with the lethargy. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:40 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update Marylyn, yes he can get the doxy compounded. I am reluctant to use it because it can cause anorexia.I am so afraid of her stopping eating...I asked him to look at her blood for hemobart but he neglected to tell me if he saw something (and I forgot to ask). Isa started shivering when he took her temp and shivered in my lap for the rest of our time there. She was crying when they were giving her fluids. Broke my heart. He is trying to treat the fever and does not know why she has it. He says the low RBC is part of the leukemia and pred might stop the body from attacking red cells IF that is what is going on. She has no symptoms other than the fever and lethargy. Normal stools, normal appetite, normal urine output. No runny nose or eyes. She did have a healing wound on the top of her head when rescued. He said she'd have an abscess if this was the cause of the fever. I suspect it is the reason for the feline leukemia. One thing that strikes me is she will often cry out for no apparent reason. She rolled onto her back today and cried out. Sometimes she will cry out if you just touch her. I told the vet but he could find nothing on exam.her foster mom reports that she stretches her rear legs alot. I suspect it could be stiffness from inactivity but who knows. When she first came, she seemed to lay down clumsily, favroing one rear leg. The vet checked out her rear legs and found nothing wrong. L - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update Of course she is frightened. She knows what power he has. Ask Dixie. When there is something serious going on she trembles. When I am thinking about taking her to the vets' and she is fine (or is dead set again going) she spends lots of time showing me how healthy she is. Ebony did the same thing. Is there anything to culture and test or is he using/trying to use a broad spectrum antibiotic in hopes of getting whatever is causing the fever? Just curious..is compounding the doxy an option? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: Isabella update Isabella saw the vet today. Her weight is 8.9 (it was this high one other time) and her HCT was up to 22 from 20. Her other red counts were slightly elevated as well. We cannot kick the fever. She was up to 104.9 from 104.2 a week ago. Her 7 days on interferon ended last night. She was very quiet at the vet's and shivering the entire time. The vet said she looked worse than last week to him. We started prednisone, gave fluids and a Vitamin B shot. When we got home she ate a good serving of canned food. Vet wants to touch base on Thursday for next steps. I decided agst doxy at this time because it can cause appetite issues and I don't want to risk that. Thanks for all the suggestions which I have shared with my vet. Laurie
Re: OT: Interested in a Bobtail?
Melissa, Have you tried posting Nonie's information and pictures on Petfinder and/or Catster.com? Catster is a big community of cat lovers and you might find one who prefers bobtails. Just a thought. Good luck and thank you for providing Nonie and Ashley a safe and loving place while they await their forever homes. Gina Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disclaimer: I know this is very OT, but my computer at home checks the OT list, and Ive only got time to write this at work, plus, it seems to me that there arent very many who read or post on the OT list. Im not sure why that is but Ill be sure to forward this to my home address and post it on OT later. Anyway, delete if you arent interested in reading about my NON-FeLV bobtail (or is it Manx?I dont know the difference). Well, Nonie is one of my foster cats that I got back in April. Three strays found me in one week. Two are still at home. Cassidy, the one with FeLV, went to Best Friends and is the reason I joined this list. Nonie and Ashley are still looking for a forever home. Its tough in these parts where cat lovers are few and far between and farm cats are the only kind most people tolerate since they dont have to really take care of them. Anyhow, Im still trying to get Ashley healthy before she gets a new home, but Nonie is very healthy, rambunctious, and cute. Shes a bobtail tabby (who likes to take showers with us), and I didnt know if there are people who specifically look for those types of cats? Like all-white, all-black cats, Siamese, etc., I figured there must be people who prefer bobtails. Do any of you know of such? I really need to find these guys a home. Were spending over $90 in litter a month, which is pricey for us. Ive finally broke down and bought less expensive litter, but I still have to feed the expensive food to all (since one of my cats needs it, so all get it). I dont cook for us very much since were gone all the time in the summer, so I dont have time to cook for the kitties (but plan to in the fall/winter). Im rambling, I know, sorry! I am just looking for some resources and a good home for Nonie. Im pretty much willing to travel anywhere, but a home in the Plains/Midwest would be easiest for me. But, Ill travel anywhere for the right home. And, no, shes not a give-a-way (unless to a home with outstanding references). Sorry to bother you guys with this. I know that there are kitties pts everyday who dont have good homes (and Nonie has a good home right now), and you all have your feline limits most likely, but Im just looking for ideas. Im fairly new to the cat rescue worldand Ive found that you guys know a lot more that I do! Thanks for listening! Melissa, Nonie, Ashley, Bandit, Angel, and Baby Smokey. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!
Re: goodbye.
Jane, I am so glad MeMe is improved! Give her a little kiss for me :) Gina Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come back. Love ya M.C. elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori, shakiti, othello On 7/1/07, MaryChristine wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
