Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations

2007-07-09 Thread Susan Dubose
No, because I haven't tried to mix it yet.

I did get some of the Missing Link, the Professional Strength, which has 
Spirulina in it. (This formula says it detoxifies).

Must have quite a bit because the powder is green.

The instruction say 3/4 teaspoon per cat.

I am startign them off w/ 1/8 so that the taste does not bother them.

I take 2 cans of moist food @ 3.oz or 1 @ 5.5 for 4 cats.

I divide into 4 little single serving bowls (World Market has lots of chioces 
and sometimes the Dollar Stores).

I put a pinch of Lysine, then the Missing Link, stir in.

I also take the little empty cans and fill one half full w/ water, swirl around 
so to get all of the juice, divide into their food.

Kitties like juice, It makes a gravey.

They cannot get too much water, of course.

I will ask around through, about just the Spiulina dosage for you.


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 11:02 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


  Susan, do you have any idea of the dose of spirulina?


  Thanks from me 'n' the kitties




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   and Physicality is its
   Manifestation.




  On Jul 6, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Susan Dubose wrote:


Laura,

I was @ my vet this morning, so I went ahead and picked up a package of 
Missiing Link.

I have been meaning to try it on my felv+ gang, as well as work it into my 
other group of kitties eventually.

Right now the nonfelv cats just get the brewer's yeast sprinkled on top of 
their dry food, which again is the Evo mixed w/ Core.

Ok, both formulas say veterinary formula on the package.

One package is gold, while the professional strength is on a silver 
package.

The professional strength says it is for Recovery  Detoxification.

This is only available @ the vet's.

I didn't have time @ the vet office to compare both packages to see what 
the ingredient difference was.

But listed they have probiotics, carrot  alfalfa powder, yeast, freeze 
dried beef liver, kelp, dandalion root, garlic, yucca as well as spirulina.

I am interested most in the spirulina, I take that and I believe it helps 
me.

A friend of mine had a felv+ cat that she gave spirulina to years ago, and 
the vet was amazed that he threw the virus.

Hard to tell if he was just one of those cats that does, or if the 
spirulina actually helped.

Another friend had a kitty that ate some of the bad pouch Nutro food that 
was going around, and went into renal failure @ the age of 3 years.

He recovered after 2 weeks @ the vet and lots of sub Q's helped, but she 
also mixed up a batch of spirulina and some other things for him to get.

She gave it to him orally, it was a liquid.

Not sure how he is doing, I need to call her and see what it is that she 
was giving him.

I paid $21. for one pound of supplement,must be kept in the fridge after 
opening  use within 90 days.

I will let you know if I see any difference in my felv+ cats, which as of 
now (knock on wood) are not symptomatic.

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message -
  From: laurieskatz
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


  Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion,
  Laurie






RE: very quiet

2007-07-09 Thread Melissa Lind
I'm glad to see that others think it's quiet-I was beginning to wonder if I
was getting all the posts! Usually I'm swamped on Monday trying to catch up
from the weekend!

 

Melissa

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Davis
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 8:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: very quiet

 

Hi

 

It seems like things are either quiet or I am not getting posts. Nothing
since yestaerday. Maybe folks are away on vacation.

 

I had to get more Metacam for Junior. the vet does not want to remove the
eye causing his pain. I tried to see if I could geet him off it but you can
tell he is not the same. For Junior it is quality of life. Otherwise he is
doing well he weighs about 12.6 lbs which is upo from his low weight of
about 10.5 lbs. He coat is nice and he smells nice. Is that weird? 

 

Hope everyone's babies are well. Quiet can be a good thing.

 



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OT: Need help ASAP with a kitty

2007-07-09 Thread wendy
Hi guys,

The past week has been a pretty rough one.  My grandma
in NC went into the hospital last Sunday and passed
away on Wednesday.  We were very close, and I am upset
that I did not get to tell her goodbye.  I was
actually set to leave to see her this past Saturday,
but I guess life doesn't go as planned, does it? 

Anyway, my grandma had 3 feral cats that have been fed
by her caregiver for the past two years because she
has not been able to get out of bed with the
Parkinson's.  Before I got to NC from Texas, my uncle
trapped two and let them out at some remote farm, God
knows where.  The last kitty left has been my favorite
since she was born.  She was one of the ones the Best
Friends came out and did a TNR on (there were several)
a few years ago.  She is feral so has never let me pet
her, although I have played with her with string and
talked to her everytime I've visited my grandma.  When
I went out to see which kitty was left yesterday, she
let me know she was not happy and wanted to know where
the rest of her family was.  It is heartbreaking to me
to see her and know what happened with the other two. 
I hope they are ok, and might possibly look into
getting help for them in the next few days if my Uncle
will tell me where he dropped them off.  

I am on my way to go try to trap her this afternoon
with a can of tuna fish, a medium sized kitty carrier,
and some string for the door.  Wish me luck.  Animal
Control has a waiting list for traps, and I'm leaving
tomorrow morning, so I have no access to one unless I
buy one.  

I am just able to get online b/c my aunt and uncle
have no Internet (I can't imagine!) and I had to wait
to visit the library until now because of the funeral,
etc.  I will check for any replies on my way back from
my grandma's place today.

The help I need from you guys is this: Do any of you
know of any rescue shelters that will take ferals (I
would prefer a feral specific rescue, if possible)?  I
need one in the Greensboro, Winston-Salem, or
Raleigh/Durham area of North Carolina.  I want her to
have a good home.  I do not want to take her back to
Texas if I can avoid it at all.  My husband will be
mad at me if I do, and I'm traveling with my great
aunt who's in her 80's and talks non-stop, so I think
traveling with the two of them might be a disaster
depending on how things go.  Any ideas would be
greatly appreciated.  FYI: We will be traveling on 40
through Tennessee tomorrow, so that is also an option
for transport for us.  I am also going to look online
to see what might be out there for help for her.

Please let me know if you have any ideas. 

Thanks guys,
Wendy

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Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty

2007-07-09 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
It's just so awful -- people think that they can just dump these precious 
living creatures anywhere they want and they are going to be just fine -- I am 
so devastated to hear this story.. please please find out where your uncle took 
them and maybe you can perhaps retrap them.. I have done that.. my stupid 
neighbour adopted this feral kitty and she kept peeing in the house so, she 
dumped her some place far away from her house - so I found out where she took 
her and I staked out for a week and finally re-trapped her back and now she is 
with me -- I will be praying for those precious lives that they are going to be 
okay!..
  - Original Message - 
  From: wendymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; 
HyperTmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:39 AM
  Subject: OT: Need help ASAP with a kitty


  Hi guys,

  The past week has been a pretty rough one.  My grandma
  in NC went into the hospital last Sunday and passed
  away on Wednesday.  We were very close, and I am upset
  that I did not get to tell her goodbye.  I was
  actually set to leave to see her this past Saturday,
  but I guess life doesn't go as planned, does it? 

  Anyway, my grandma had 3 feral cats that have been fed
  by her caregiver for the past two years because she
  has not been able to get out of bed with the
  Parkinson's.  Before I got to NC from Texas, my uncle
  trapped two and let them out at some remote farm, God
  knows where.  The last kitty left has been my favorite
  since she was born.  She was one of the ones the Best
  Friends came out and did a TNR on (there were several)
  a few years ago.  She is feral so has never let me pet
  her, although I have played with her with string and
  talked to her everytime I've visited my grandma.  When
  I went out to see which kitty was left yesterday, she
  let me know she was not happy and wanted to know where
  the rest of her family was.  It is heartbreaking to me
  to see her and know what happened with the other two. 
  I hope they are ok, and might possibly look into
  getting help for them in the next few days if my Uncle
  will tell me where he dropped them off.  

  I am on my way to go try to trap her this afternoon
  with a can of tuna fish, a medium sized kitty carrier,
  and some string for the door.  Wish me luck.  Animal
  Control has a waiting list for traps, and I'm leaving
  tomorrow morning, so I have no access to one unless I
  buy one.  

  I am just able to get online b/c my aunt and uncle
  have no Internet (I can't imagine!) and I had to wait
  to visit the library until now because of the funeral,
  etc.  I will check for any replies on my way back from
  my grandma's place today.

  The help I need from you guys is this: Do any of you
  know of any rescue shelters that will take ferals (I
  would prefer a feral specific rescue, if possible)?  I
  need one in the Greensboro, Winston-Salem, or
  Raleigh/Durham area of North Carolina.  I want her to
  have a good home.  I do not want to take her back to
  Texas if I can avoid it at all.  My husband will be
  mad at me if I do, and I'm traveling with my great
  aunt who's in her 80's and talks non-stop, so I think
  traveling with the two of them might be a disaster
  depending on how things go.  Any ideas would be
  greatly appreciated.  FYI: We will be traveling on 40
  through Tennessee tomorrow, so that is also an option
  for transport for us.  I am also going to look online
  to see what might be out there for help for her.

  Please let me know if you have any ideas. 

  Thanks guys,
  Wendy

  Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



 
  

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Re: OT: Need help ASAP with a kitty

2007-07-09 Thread elizabeth trent

Wendy,
I am so sad for you that you lost your grandma.  My heart is with you.

elizabeth


On 7/9/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi guys,

The past week has been a pretty rough one.  My grandma
in NC went into the hospital last Sunday and passed
away on Wednesday.  We were very close, and I am upset
that I did not get to tell her goodbye.  I was
actually set to leave to see her this past Saturday,
but I guess life doesn't go as planned, does it?

Anyway, my grandma had 3 feral cats that have been fed
by her caregiver for the past two years because she
has not been able to get out of bed with the
Parkinson's.  Before I got to NC from Texas, my uncle
trapped two and let them out at some remote farm, God
knows where.  The last kitty left has been my favorite
since she was born.  She was one of the ones the Best
Friends came out and did a TNR on (there were several)
a few years ago.  She is feral so has never let me pet
her, although I have played with her with string and
talked to her everytime I've visited my grandma.  When
I went out to see which kitty was left yesterday, she
let me know she was not happy and wanted to know where
the rest of her family was.  It is heartbreaking to me
to see her and know what happened with the other two.
I hope they are ok, and might possibly look into
getting help for them in the next few days if my Uncle
will tell me where he dropped them off.

I am on my way to go try to trap her this afternoon
with a can of tuna fish, a medium sized kitty carrier,
and some string for the door.  Wish me luck.  Animal
Control has a waiting list for traps, and I'm leaving
tomorrow morning, so I have no access to one unless I
buy one.

I am just able to get online b/c my aunt and uncle
have no Internet (I can't imagine!) and I had to wait
to visit the library until now because of the funeral,
etc.  I will check for any replies on my way back from
my grandma's place today.

The help I need from you guys is this: Do any of you
know of any rescue shelters that will take ferals (I
would prefer a feral specific rescue, if possible)?  I
need one in the Greensboro, Winston-Salem, or
Raleigh/Durham area of North Carolina.  I want her to
have a good home.  I do not want to take her back to
Texas if I can avoid it at all.  My husband will be
mad at me if I do, and I'm traveling with my great
aunt who's in her 80's and talks non-stop, so I think
traveling with the two of them might be a disaster
depending on how things go.  Any ideas would be
greatly appreciated.  FYI: We will be traveling on 40
through Tennessee tomorrow, so that is also an option
for transport for us.  I am also going to look online
to see what might be out there for help for her.

Please let me know if you have any ideas.

Thanks guys,
Wendy

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change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~
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Re: OT: Need help ASAP with a kitty

2007-07-09 Thread elizabeth trent

This site might me helpful:
http://alleycat.org/


On 7/9/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi guys,

The past week has been a pretty rough one.  My grandma
in NC went into the hospital last Sunday and passed
away on Wednesday.  We were very close, and I am upset
that I did not get to tell her goodbye.  I was
actually set to leave to see her this past Saturday,
but I guess life doesn't go as planned, does it?

Anyway, my grandma had 3 feral cats that have been fed
by her caregiver for the past two years because she
has not been able to get out of bed with the
Parkinson's.  Before I got to NC from Texas, my uncle
trapped two and let them out at some remote farm, God
knows where.  The last kitty left has been my favorite
since she was born.  She was one of the ones the Best
Friends came out and did a TNR on (there were several)
a few years ago.  She is feral so has never let me pet
her, although I have played with her with string and
talked to her everytime I've visited my grandma.  When
I went out to see which kitty was left yesterday, she
let me know she was not happy and wanted to know where
the rest of her family was.  It is heartbreaking to me
to see her and know what happened with the other two.
I hope they are ok, and might possibly look into
getting help for them in the next few days if my Uncle
will tell me where he dropped them off.

I am on my way to go try to trap her this afternoon
with a can of tuna fish, a medium sized kitty carrier,
and some string for the door.  Wish me luck.  Animal
Control has a waiting list for traps, and I'm leaving
tomorrow morning, so I have no access to one unless I
buy one.

I am just able to get online b/c my aunt and uncle
have no Internet (I can't imagine!) and I had to wait
to visit the library until now because of the funeral,
etc.  I will check for any replies on my way back from
my grandma's place today.

The help I need from you guys is this: Do any of you
know of any rescue shelters that will take ferals (I
would prefer a feral specific rescue, if possible)?  I
need one in the Greensboro, Winston-Salem, or
Raleigh/Durham area of North Carolina.  I want her to
have a good home.  I do not want to take her back to
Texas if I can avoid it at all.  My husband will be
mad at me if I do, and I'm traveling with my great
aunt who's in her 80's and talks non-stop, so I think
traveling with the two of them might be a disaster
depending on how things go.  Any ideas would be
greatly appreciated.  FYI: We will be traveling on 40
through Tennessee tomorrow, so that is also an option
for transport for us.  I am also going to look online
to see what might be out there for help for her.

Please let me know if you have any ideas.

Thanks guys,
Wendy

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~
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Re: Ki is an Angel

2007-07-09 Thread catatonya
Dede,
   
  I'm so sorry to read about Ki.  You certainly did everything you could. Take 
care of yourself.
   
  tonya

dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
It is with the heaviest of hearts that I let you know
Ki left this world at 10 this AM.

It was sooo hard for me. I noticed last night that
his belly looked really full. The way he was
breathing was weird also. You could see his head and
chest moving. His eyes had brightened up though, and
the fever had gotten better, but it kept spiking. He
even ate a few pieces of food by himself.

The vet drained his belly, and it was thick straw
colored with fibrin strands...heavy protein. My
biggest fear was that he would crash tomorrow when I
couldn't get to a vet, and he would have a horrible
death.

Maybe the move stressed him, or maybe I should have
never put him in with most of the cats. I dunno...I
could go crazy asking what if's I guess I believed
he would be one of the lucky ones. He came from a
horrible home...many FeLV cats and death. His
siblings and mother were neg and I was sure he would
beat it. It was only a faint pos. He had a fever
like this last Nov, but recovered,

I am so grateful for the time I had with him. He came
to me the week before my beloved Smokey died. I
didn't even know he was pos. but we kept him in the
bedroom, and played with him, and loved and slept with
him. He was a pistol, and rough to play with! I hope
he doesn't forget us, and the time will come when we
can all be together forever.

May the Lord bless you sweet one, and keep you in his
care until we meet again.

Dede

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of your God
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Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty

2007-07-09 Thread Susan Dubose
Wow, Hideyo!

That's an impressive story.

You sound like you earn your wings everyday..  :)

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:36 AM
  Subject: Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty


  It's just so awful -- people think that they can just dump these precious 
living creatures anywhere they want and they are going to be just fine -- I am 
so devastated to hear this story.. please please find out where your uncle took 
them and maybe you can perhaps retrap them.. I have done that.. my stupid 
neighbour adopted this feral kitty and she kept peeing in the house so, she 
dumped her some place far away from her house - so I found out where she took 
her and I staked out for a week and finally re-trapped her back and now she is 
with me -- I will be praying for those precious lives that they are going to be 
okay!..


Re: Ki is an Angel

2007-07-09 Thread dede hicken
Thank you, Tonys, I appreciate it.  It never gets any
easier, does it?

Dede



--- catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dede,

   I'm so sorry to read about Ki.  You certainly did
 everything you could. Take care of yourself.

   tonya
 
 dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 It is with the heaviest of hearts that I let you
 know
 Ki left this world at 10 this AM.
 
 It was sooo hard for me. I noticed last night that
 his belly looked really full. The way he was
 breathing was weird also. You could see his head and
 chest moving. His eyes had brightened up though, and
 the fever had gotten better, but it kept spiking. He
 even ate a few pieces of food by himself.
 
 The vet drained his belly, and it was thick straw
 colored with fibrin strands...heavy protein. My
 biggest fear was that he would crash tomorrow when I
 couldn't get to a vet, and he would have a horrible
 death.
 
 Maybe the move stressed him, or maybe I should have
 never put him in with most of the cats. I dunno...I
 could go crazy asking what if's I guess I believed
 he would be one of the lucky ones. He came from a
 horrible home...many FeLV cats and death. His
 siblings and mother were neg and I was sure he would
 beat it. It was only a faint pos. He had a fever
 like this last Nov, but recovered,
 
 I am so grateful for the time I had with him. He
 came
 to me the week before my beloved Smokey died. I
 didn't even know he was pos. but we kept him in the
 bedroom, and played with him, and loved and slept
 with
 him. He was a pistol, and rough to play with! I hope
 he doesn't forget us, and the time will come when we
 can all be together forever.
 
 May the Lord bless you sweet one, and keep you in
 his
 care until we meet again.
 
 Dede
 
 When you are in the service of your fellow beings,
 you are only in the service of your God
 Mosiah 2:17
 
 
 


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Re: OT list

2007-07-09 Thread catatonya
As I recall the OT list was started by Jennifer/Phaeryn and had nothing to do 
with James.  If things got too off topic on the felv list James has always let 
us know in the past.  I think Phaeryn just wanted an off topic list for people 
to chit chat on more or less.  The OT list has never been greatly 
utilized
  tonya

laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Please don't leave
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
  From: elizabeth trent 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 1:01 PM
  Subject: Re: OT list
  

  well, if this is the rule by James or whomever...maybe I need to leave the 
list.  i'm not going to another list.  
   
  elizabeth, phelix, tori, tiffany, antonio, lexie, othello, shakiti

 
  On 7/1/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   from the introduction 
to the OT group, which was started years ago so that james didn't have to keep 
telling us that we'd strayed off topic, and to return to specific things 
relating to FELV. 

most special-interest lists do not allow chit-chat or off-topic posts, because 
there are enough other places for that. many lists will ban people who 
consistently go off-topic, and good lists have died out because the topic has 
gotten lost in social interaction that belongs elsewhere. this isn't MY opinion 
or rule, it's pretty much the norm. 




Welcome, fellow FELVTALK member!

This is the email list for talking about OFF TOPIC things.

Please continue to discuss Feline Leukemia on the other list, we are not 
moving the list, this is for OFF TOPIC chit chat that tends to happen on the 
other list, and clutters it up, making it harder for people to find the real 
info about FELV over there. Hopefully everyone will bring Off Topic stuff to 
this list! 


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Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty

2007-07-09 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
Oh.. thank you!  I am a little   crazy that way -- I just don't know when to 
give up sometimes -- I would have staked out in the car all day long until she 
showed up every day --- since I did not want anyone else to be trapped and 
observed by her, I would hide in my car and had a string attached to the flap 
door of the trap so I can manually release when she goes into the trap - I was 
so happy to have her back - she is one of the very feral one and I cannot still 
pet her-- but she is a good girl!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan Dubosemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty


  Wow, Hideyo!

  That's an impressive story.

  You sound like you earn your wings everyday..  :)

  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
  www.PetGirlsPetsitting.comhttp://www.petgirlspetsitting.com/
  www.Tx.SiameseRescue.orghttp://www.tx.siameserescue.org/
  www.shadowcats.nethttp://www.shadowcats.net/
As Cleopatra lay in state,
 Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
 Purring welcomes of soft applause,
 Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
   Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTOmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty


It's just so awful -- people think that they can just dump these precious 
living creatures anywhere they want and they are going to be just fine -- I am 
so devastated to hear this story.. please please find out where your uncle took 
them and maybe you can perhaps retrap them.. I have done that.. my stupid 
neighbour adopted this feral kitty and she kept peeing in the house so, she 
dumped her some place far away from her house - so I found out where she took 
her and I staked out for a week and finally re-trapped her back and now she is 
with me -- I will be praying for those precious lives that they are going to be 
okay!..
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Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty

2007-07-09 Thread Susan Dubose
Oh yes, and I forgot to mention another little kitty that was dumped @ my feral 
colony recently, that now is living in my home.

She used to show up to eat occasionally, sporting a very pretty pink collar w/ 
rhinestones on it.

She was obviusly someone's pet, but very shy.

One day she showed w/ no colllar to eat, and the hippie neighbors told me that 
her owners had moved over the weekend and put her outside after they removed 
her collar.

Obviously they knew I fed the cats, and that she would be fine.

Well, they hadn't bothered to spay her, of course, and after a few days I saw 
discharge coming from her bottom area

Discharge as in green pus.

I put her in a carrier and took her to my vet, of course, and she had such a 
bad case of pyrometria that her uterus had burst and her bladder was partially 
necrotic.

They were not sure if she would ever be able to pee normally again.

After about 10 days she was able to come home, and being as young as she was 
(about 1 year or so) she fit right in to.

Of course, it helped that she purrfurred cats over people.

She will cow if you get to close to her, but within days you could find her 
sleeping w/ one of my older cats.

I named her Octavia, and she is a beautiful all black kitty w/ gorgeous green 
eyes.

So, what is it w/ people again that think a feral colony is a dumping ground 
for their unwanted cats?

Fine, she is much better off w/ me, she has a good life and she doesn't ever 
have to allow me to pet her if she does not want to.

It's not required in this household.

Apparently her former owners had children that were pretty rough w/ her, that 
is why she is handshy.

It's been an expensive year @ Chez Mew


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan Dubose 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:04 PM
  Subject: Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty


  You are a very good purrson.

  I just took on 2 new clients that have house ferals. :)

  It just warms my coal black heart to see what hoops they will jump through 
for those cats...

  I am in the process of relocating one of my feral colonies to my backyard, 
which is HUGE.

  There is a cottage in the the back, w/ 2 other buildings also.

  This colony is small, only 12 cats, they are losing their home due to 
progress, of course.

  They have lived on the same greenbelt in Austin for years, and it was sold 
last year to built single family dwellings..  Gag

  The poor deer are being displaced too.

  Anyway, I have moved 5 to my yard, and one was tame and came to live inside.

  Thomacina is a huge orange tabby that was not feral, he was dumped @ the 
colony as a kitten and remained friendly.

  I noticed that his ear was draining constantly,  full of pus, so I took him 
to my vet who said he had 3 types of very nasty bacterial infections going on, 
plus a growth that needed to be removed.

  After we got the infections cleared up, Dr. Samon stepped in and removed his 
growth, ear canal and stitched him up.

  So far so good, it was cancerous.

  I put him in a foster home for 2 weeks so he could recoup and finish his 
meds, and then introduced him to my motley crew of rascals  hooligans in fur.

  I have never introduced a kitty that old to my gang (he's maybe 3 yrs?) so I 
wasn't sure what would happen.

  he fit right in, and now sleeps on my bed every night.

  It's funny when you take a kitty outta a bad situation where they are living 
on hand outs and move them inside,  you can really see appreciation in their 
eyes everyday.

  He just LOVES sleeping in a soft bed..


  I still have 6 more cats to move over to my home, I got sidetracked w/ the 
houston 14 from the rescuer / collector situation (felv+ exposure cats)

  But for now, I have trained the colony to eat in a good Sam's yard on a 
deadend street.

  Nice people, young hippies that have rock art all over their yard.

  So, kitties are somewhat outta harm's way for now.

  The main thing to remember is that you need to crate them for no less than 2 
weeks in their new environment.

  That way they can see, smell, hear the comings  goings in their new home.

  They HAVE to get familiar or they could try and find their old home.

  Very important.

  I put my 5 in a big walk in type pen that was inside my out building, for 6 
weeks.

  One day I just left the door opened so they could be free in my yard.

  I didn't see then for 2 weeks, I was so upset.

  They just reappeared one day, probably had been hiding the whole 

Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty

2007-07-09 Thread elizabeth trent

Susan, you are an absolute angel :0)

Four of my seven babies were feral.  I had a $450 stray too --- Merlin.
Poor thing had abscesses on both sides of his face -- he was so skinny and
beat up.  We got him all fixed up and gorgeous.  Someone in the neighborhood
adopted him after that.  I never mentioned all the vet bills.  He was a dear
love - and anytime he got to go outside for any length of time - he would
make a bee line for Liz's Kitty Boutique and Day Spa :0)  (my front porch)

All of my seven babies were either abandoned or totally feral.  Sweet, dear
Shakiti was SO shy it took months and months to be able to pet him.  He's my
precious little boy now and lets me hold him like a baby now while he drools
on my shoulder LOL  He curls up with me any time I take a nap -- he loves
his mommy.  If he so much as hears another human voice though -- he will
hide and you won't be able to find him either until the big bad strangers
are gone.

I've never insisted that my babies allow me to pet them either.  Slow and
steady -- no sudden moves and lots of love.  They all seem to come around in
time..but sometimes it takes a very long time.  I can even brush and comb
all of mine now.  I caught Othello once to take him to the vet's -- but that
may not ever happen again LOL  They are SO smart!  Othello is the mighty
hunter -- he's the fastest and the sneakiest.

Zulu -- totally feral boy who dines at the boutique will run if he sees you
through the door or window any closer than six feet.  Evenso -- that is
progress! :0)  It takes a lot of patience with these dear ferals -- but
every bit of time spent is worth it.

elizabeth


On 7/9/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Oh yes, and I forgot to mention another little kitty that was dumped @ my
feral colony recently, that now is living in my home.

She used to show up to eat occasionally, sporting a very pretty pink
collar w/ rhinestones on it.

She was obviusly someone's pet, but very shy.

One day she showed w/ no colllar to eat, and the hippie neighbors told me
that her owners had moved over the weekend and put her outside after they
removed her collar.

Obviously they knew I fed the cats, and that she would be fine.

Well, they hadn't bothered to spay her, of course, and after a few days I
saw discharge coming from her bottom area

Discharge as in green pus.

I put her in a carrier and took her to my vet, of course, and she had such
a bad case of pyrometria that her uterus had burst and her bladder was
partially necrotic.

They were not sure if she would ever be able to pee normally again.

After about 10 days she was able to come home, and being as young as she
was (about 1 year or so) she fit right in to.

Of course, it helped that she purrfurred cats over people.

She will cow if you get to close to her, but within days you could find
her sleeping w/ one of my older cats.

I named her Octavia, and she is a beautiful all black kitty w/ gorgeous
green eyes.

So, what is it w/ people again that think a feral colony is a dumping
ground for their unwanted cats?

Fine, she is much better off w/ me, she has a good life and she doesn't
ever have to allow me to pet her if she does not want to.

It's not required in this household.

Apparently her former owners had children that were pretty rough w/ her,
that is why she is handshy.

It's been an expensive year @ Chez Mew


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com http://www.petgirlspetsitting.com/
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org http://www.tx.siameserescue.org/
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent





- Original Message -
*From:* Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Monday, July 09, 2007 7:04 PM
*Subject:* Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty


 You are a very good purrson.

I just took on 2 new clients that have house ferals. :)

It just warms my coal black heart to see what hoops they will jump through
for those cats...

I am in the process of relocating one of my feral colonies to my backyard,
which is HUGE.

There is a cottage in the the back, w/ 2 other buildings also.

This colony is small, only 12 cats, they are losing their home due to
progress, of course.

They have lived on the same greenbelt in Austin for years, and it was sold
last year to built single family dwellings..  Gag

The poor deer are being displaced too.

Anyway, I have moved 5 to my yard, and one was tame and came to live
inside.

Thomacina is a huge orange tabby that was not feral, he was dumped @ the
colony as a kitten and remained friendly.

I noticed that his ear was draining constantly,  full of pus, so I took
him to my vet who said he 

Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty

2007-07-09 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
It makes my day to know that there is someone like you out there taking care of 
feral -- I admire your effort and good luck bringing in the rest of the feral 
babies -- are you trapping them in a regular trap?  If so, I highly recommend 
you consider using a drop trap -- Nina suggested that I use to re-trap Maddie 
who escapted out of her new adopted house two days later after she arrived (she 
was semi-feral cat) -- she was missing for 5 weeks until I finally re-trapped 
her with a drop trap -- after many many walks with putting out the flyers in 
all over the area -- the persistence had finally paid off -- I can't express 
how overwhelmingly happy we were to see maddie again..Maddie was sooo happy to 
be back home where she originally came from, and where all her brothers and 
friends are -- 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan Dubosemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 6:04 PM
  Subject: Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty


  You are a very good purrson.

  I just took on 2 new clients that have house ferals. :)

  It just warms my coal black heart to see what hoops they will jump through 
for those cats...

  I am in the process of relocating one of my feral colonies to my backyard, 
which is HUGE.

  There is a cottage in the the back, w/ 2 other buildings also.

  This colony is small, only 12 cats, they are losing their home due to 
progress, of course.

  They have lived on the same greenbelt in Austin for years, and it was sold 
last year to built single family dwellings..  Gag

  The poor deer are being displaced too.

  Anyway, I have moved 5 to my yard, and one was tame and came to live inside.

  Thomacina is a huge orange tabby that was not feral, he was dumped @ the 
colony as a kitten and remained friendly.

  I noticed that his ear was draining constantly,  full of pus, so I took him 
to my vet who said he had 3 types of very nasty bacterial infections going on, 
plus a growth that needed to be removed.

  After we got the infections cleared up, Dr. Samon stepped in and removed his 
growth, ear canal and stitched him up.

  So far so good, it was cancerous.

  I put him in a foster home for 2 weeks so he could recoup and finish his 
meds, and then introduced him to my motley crew of rascals  hooligans in fur.

  I have never introduced a kitty that old to my gang (he's maybe 3 yrs?) so I 
wasn't sure what would happen.

  he fit right in, and now sleeps on my bed every night.

  It's funny when you take a kitty outta a bad situation where they are living 
on hand outs and move them inside,  you can really see appreciation in their 
eyes everyday.

  He just LOVES sleeping in a soft bed..


  I still have 6 more cats to move over to my home, I got sidetracked w/ the 
houston 14 from the rescuer / collector situation (felv+ exposure cats)

  But for now, I have trained the colony to eat in a good Sam's yard on a 
deadend street.

  Nice people, young hippies that have rock art all over their yard.

  So, kitties are somewhat outta harm's way for now.

  The main thing to remember is that you need to crate them for no less than 2 
weeks in their new environment.

  That way they can see, smell, hear the comings  goings in their new home.

  They HAVE to get familiar or they could try and find their old home.

  Very important.

  I put my 5 in a big walk in type pen that was inside my out building, for 6 
weeks.

  One day I just left the door opened so they could be free in my yard.

  I didn't see then for 2 weeks, I was so upset.

  They just reappeared one day, probably had been hiding the whole time.

  Now they are fed @ 6am after I tend to the house cats.

  Spoiled, spoiled, little brats...



  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
  www.PetGirlsPetsitting.comhttp://www.petgirlspetsitting.com/
  www.Tx.SiameseRescue.orghttp://www.tx.siameserescue.org/
  www.shadowcats.nethttp://www.shadowcats.net/
As Cleopatra lay in state,
 Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
 Purring welcomes of soft applause,
 Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
   Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTOmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Need help ASAP with a kitty


Oh.. thank you!  I am a little   crazy that way -- I just don't know when 
to give up sometimes -- I would have staked out in the car all day long until 
she showed up every day --- since I did not want anyone else to be trapped and 
observed by her, I would hide in my car and had a string attached to the flap 
door of the trap so I can manually release when she goes into the trap