Re: Litterboxes
It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference what brand of litter (as long as it IS scoopable) we use so I buy whatever I have coupons for--or, if no coupons, I go to Wal-Mart as they have the best prices around here. I have seven cats and seven litterboxes--I've always read that one should have the same number of boxes as cats. We scoop the boxes 4-5 times per day. I don't know that there is a perfect answer--but this works pretty well. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
RE: Litterboxes
I'm very interested Marylyn-where can I buy silica gel? Kerry _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Litterboxes Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael _ See what's new at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP0030001170 and Make AOL Your Homepage http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP0030001169 . _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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There are crystals and pearls. Dixie hates the pearls since they get between her toes. I get the plain silica, not the stuff with the blue crystals. (Meijer's) I've been told that the blue stuff can be a poison to cats, especially those with problems. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:54 PM Subject: RE: Litterboxes I only had one cat until Monkee died and then I started fostering. Litter in a one-cat household is totally different than litter in a multi cat house! When it was just Monkee, he used crystals, and then at the end Swheat Scoop because he started eating the crystals (or trying to) due to the anemia (to get silica) and I started questioning the crystals' safety, independent of his eating them. In one cat households, I strongly reccommend Swheat Scoop. It's all natural (made from Wheat), safe, and it's the best d*mn clumping litter I have ever used. Also great for odor control, even though it's not artificially scented (?). I love that stuff!!! But it's expensive. I had to give that up with the fostering and addition of more cats. With multiple cats, I have found you pretty much HAVE TO HAVE scoopable/clumping litter (or you will go crazy) and that opinion comes from experience. I Volunteer for a no-kill adoption agency and they get free litter sometimes when the store they have the cats at has a pallet of huge litter bags that breaks, something like that. I was going thru litter so fast and the agency had these huge bags of FREE litter-- only all the scoopable/clumping had already been taken. I couldn't resist the free-ness, so I took what was left: Feline Pine (which Monkee used when I first took him in from outside but he peed about 6 times a day and pine just didn't cut it). With 5 crated kittens, the pine proved to be a disaster. When they pee, it breaks down the pine. I was left with saw dust-like residue ALL over the room where the cats where crated. They would get it everywhere-- 10 feet from the crates! It was horrible and disgusting. It also did nothing to absorb the smell nor the liquid of urine (which is why Monkee loved his dehydrating crystals!). I have found the scoopable/clumping Tidy Cats to actually be the best, so I think you are using one of the best options for multi cats. Tidy Cats happens to be what the adoption agency uses in their cats condos that house 4-5 cats each, using 1 Dome litterbox per condo (that is cleaned once a day by a volunteer). It just clumps the best. Also, if you buy the cardboard box of Tidy Cats clumping (blue/green container I think?) with the white plastic handle on the top, it has a coupon on the side of it that you have to cut off. If you don't look for it, you might miss it and just throw the box out for recycling. But we are fastidious about cutting these off before discarding a box because they are very helpful. Stay away from the clay/non-scoopable varieties too, as I have had no success with these. This is when they get the clay on their feet and it won't come off unless you fully bathe them (which is not acceptable)! I bought a box of Arm Hammer clumpable claiming to be good for odor control, and I have hated it. It appears to have more clay than anything else in it and Yoda gets damp clay (from urine!) all over his back feet and it won't come off! I have to bathe him this weekend because this brand has made him so dirty. It is also really strongly scented I guess for the odor control, but it's very perfumey and I hate it. Yoda now smells like a combo of his own poo and bad old lady musky perfume from this Arm Hammer. If you have a cat who messes around in the litter box like Yoda (he's a 5 mth old kitten!) and loves getting himself dirty from his own litterbox, then do not use this! Since it sticks to Yoda like thick, gummy glue and he tries to lick it off, I am also concerned about the perfume smell- like he souldn't be ingesting that? I am using up this box, then never buying it again. When you find one that works best for you and your cats, STICK WITH IT! Don't be tempted by sales or unfounded claims of odor control and clumpingit's not worth it! Trust me. It will almost always end up in traumatic baths -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Litterboxes Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007
Re: Litterboxes
Another thought: Do you have a farm/feed store close by? Sometimes they have cheap litter. The trick with the silica is that it absorbs a lot of the urine (I had one cat that would use it straight. Dixie isn't that found of it) so you are not scooping as much and the odor is a lot less. The size of the plastic boxes makes scooping a lot easier for me too...and the high sides are a plus with older/mad/male cats who don't seem to always hit the litter. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Litterboxes It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference what brand of litter (as long as it IS scoopable) we use so I buy whatever I have coupons for--or, if no coupons, I go to Wal-Mart as they have the best prices around here. I have seven cats and seven litterboxes--I've always read that one should have the same number of boxes as cats. We scoop the boxes 4-5 times per day. I don't know that there is a perfect answer--but this works pretty well. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
RE: Litterboxes
Well, at least I know I am not alone in this. Sometimes it just seems ridiculous the amount of trash the cats can contribute:) Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Litterboxes I empty my boxes daily (ugh) and produce about 4-8 bags of trash per *day*. I have no idea how to reduce this. On 10/19/07, Chris Behnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On this subject, how does everyone get rid of their litter? We have 7 litterboxes for 12 cats. We use feline pine and just empty the litter boxes every 3 to 4 days. The problem is, this ends up being about 4-5 bags of trash everytime. I am trying to figure out how to reduce the amount of trash/waste. Chris No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM
Re: Litterboxes
I empty my boxes daily (ugh) and produce about 4-8 bags of trash per *day*. I have no idea how to reduce this. On 10/19/07, Chris Behnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On this subject, how does everyone get rid of their litter? We have 7 litterboxes for 12 cats. We use feline pine and just empty the litter boxes every 3 to 4 days. The problem is, this ends up being about 4-5 bags of trash everytime. I am trying to figure out how to reduce the amount of trash/waste. Chris No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
RE: Litterboxes
On this subject, how does everyone get rid of their litter? We have 7 litterboxes for 12 cats. We use feline pine and just empty the litter boxes every 3 to 4 days. The problem is, this ends up being about 4-5 bags of trash everytime. I am trying to figure out how to reduce the amount of trash/waste. Chris No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:10 AM
RE: Litterboxes
Yes, I have mixed scoopable/clumping (Tidy Cats) with silica crystals before (I forgot to mention that in my previous Litter Dissertation) and it works great. I like the clumping action, but also the crystals just dehydrate the urine so well, it really helps odor control. But I know some cats are freaked out by the crystals. But Monkee loved them- he never wanted to go into his box and touch his own wet urine (oh the horror!). It was nice having an OCD cat, but now I've been cursed with the opposite...a dirty little litter-mongerer named Yoda! Monkee's at the Rainbow Bridge both horrified and laughing at me at the same time! And I'm left contemplating a Yoda name change to Stinky! -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: LitterboxesDate: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:32:28 -0500 Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :)~Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct
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I only had one cat until Monkee died and then I started fostering. Litter in a one-cat household is totally different than litter in a multi cat house! When it was just Monkee, he used crystals, and then at the end Swheat Scoop because he started eating the crystals (or trying to) due to the anemia (to get silica) and I started questioning the crystals' safety, independent of his eating them. In one cat households, I strongly reccommend Swheat Scoop. It's all natural (made from Wheat), safe, and it's the best d*mn clumping litter I have ever used. Also great for odor control, even though it's not artificially scented (?). I love that stuff!!! But it's expensive. I had to give that up with the fostering and addition of more cats. With multiple cats, I have found you pretty much HAVE TO HAVE scoopable/clumping litter (or you will go crazy) and that opinion comes from experience. I Volunteer for a no-kill adoption agency and they get free litter sometimes when the store they have the cats at has a pallet of huge litter bags that breaks, something like that. I was going thru litter so fast and the agency had these huge bags of FREE litter-- only all the scoopable/clumping had already been taken. I couldn't resist the free-ness, so I took what was left: Feline Pine (which Monkee used when I first took him in from outside but he peed about 6 times a day and pine just didn't cut it). With 5 crated kittens, the pine proved to be a disaster. When they pee, it breaks down the pine. I was left with saw dust-like residue ALL over the room where the cats where crated. They would get it everywhere-- 10 feet from the crates! It was horrible and disgusting. It also did nothing to absorb the smell nor the liquid of urine (which is why Monkee loved his dehydrating crystals!). I have found the scoopable/clumping Tidy Cats to actually be the best, so I think you are using one of the best options for multi cats. Tidy Cats happens to be what the adoption agency uses in their cats condos that house 4-5 cats each, using 1 Dome litterbox per condo (that is cleaned once a day by a volunteer). It just clumps the best. Also, if you buy the cardboard box of Tidy Cats clumping (blue/green container I think?) with the white plastic handle on the top, it has a coupon on the side of it that you have to cut off. If you don't look for it, you might miss it and just throw the box out for recycling. But we are fastidious about cutting these off before discarding a box because they are very helpful. Stay away from the clay/non-scoopable varieties too, as I have had no success with these. This is when they get the clay on their feet and it won't come off unless you fully bathe them (which is not acceptable)! I bought a box of Arm Hammer clumpable claiming to be good for odor control, and I have hated it. It appears to have more clay than anything else in it and Yoda gets damp clay (from urine!) all over his back feet and it won't come off! I have to bathe him this weekend because this brand has made him so dirty. It is also really strongly scented I guess for the odor control, but it's very perfumey and I hate it. Yoda now smells like a combo of his own poo and bad old lady musky perfume from this Arm Hammer. If you have a cat who messes around in the litter box like Yoda (he's a 5 mth old kitten!) and loves getting himself dirty from his own litterbox, then do not use this! Since it sticks to Yoda like thick, gummy glue and he tries to lick it off, I am also concerned about the perfume smell- like he souldn't be ingesting that? I am using up this box, then never buying it again. When you find one that works best for you and your cats, STICK WITH IT! Don't be tempted by sales or unfounded claims of odor control and clumpingit's not worth it! Trust me. It will almost always end up in traumatic baths -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: LitterboxesDate: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:20:59 -0400 It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference what brand of litter (as long as it IS scoopable) we use so I buy whatever I have coupons for--or, if no coupons, I go to Wal-Mart as they have the best prices around here. I have seven cats and seven litterboxes--I've always read that one should have the same number of boxes as cats. We scoop the boxes 4-5 times per day. I don't know that there is a perfect answer--but this works pretty well. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and
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Dr. Elseys' Ultra Precious Cats. I fill 2 boxes from one 40lb bag. I have 6 boxes for 5 cats. I scoop 3 or more times a day. Dump each box and wash with soap and water and refill with fresh litter once a week. I wash a box a day (take Sunday off) so kittys always have one fresh box. I have 3 boxes in each of 2 locations (3 on second floor and 3 on main floor).. I use the high back boxes from Drs. Foster Smith. I don't buy the covers, just the boxes. If they are more zealously using on box, I may have to add litter part way through the week. Laurie
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I have a rescue friend who uses something from the feed store...not litter, it is made of corn... I like the new Arm Hammer Odor Indicator litter as far as controlling odor is concerned. It is even more expensive than regular litter though. My litter bill is almost as high as my food bill:( On 10/19/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: Litterboxes
Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A H scoopable and it works wonders. I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
Litterboxes
Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: Whitey's Test Results
Wonderful news One great thing about cats (or other animals) is that they don't worry. You get to do all the worrying about next week. :) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Whitey's Test Results Whitey's FIP test came in today. It was NEGATIVE! :) He's one hell of a tough cat, let me tell ya :) He's going in next week for a follow up visit to recheck his labs, get his FVRCP/FeLV/Rabies vaccines, Neuter, and dental work, if his labs are all ok. That poor fella is gonna have a rough week next week, he just doesn't know it yet. lol We almost have his room remodeled. I'm finishing up the floor today. :) ~M -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
