RE: Question about URI contagion
Gosh- could that time frame be anymore vague! 2-17 days is a long time period! I will ask my mom how she feels about it...she is very protective of LeeRoy- even tho she's not a cat-person- b/c he's the sweetest little boy ever- the nicest cat in the world- a real people-cat and she wouldn't want him to come down with the funk. I know technically they were probably already exposed to some degree since I don't have an iso room- altho this downstairs room is about as isolated as you can get without having a separate ac/heat, etc. And Yoda and the B/W originally had the same URI anyway. Yoda is the only one from that group of 4 kittens (Metro AC orphans but not a litter) that the URI eye symptoms haven't come back on yet since he kicked it in September (the other 2 have been adopted (Tippi and GoGo-- I like to think it's b/c I spent A LOT of time cleaning them with kitty wipes, cleaning ears- Tippi's were the worst I'd seen in my 30 years- and my dad was a vet!, brushing them, pumping them full of high-qual food and supplements and giving them exercise and love...so frankly, they looked better than most of the other cats!) I have not let loose of Yoda though (added him to the condos for adoption)- even tho I know someone would grab him up b/c he's buff-colored and freaking adorable, altho he is kind of an a$$, but the cuteness makes up for it! So he's been living the high life since I took him in so he certainly hasn't had any stress that would bring the URI back out. I even moved and the little booger loved his new room and got to truly bird watch for the first time and he never even missed a beat! So much for moving causing stress on my cats! -Caroline Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:47:54 -0600From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Question about URI contagionOddly enough, I just picked up a fact sheet that says incubation is between 2-17 days. I don't know if that helps you. On Nov 16, 2007 9:40 AM, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the others. They've probably already been exposed anyhow. Sounds like he's responded well to your loving care. FYI - I also had good luck with a dose or two of Zithromax for kittens with URI. Gloria On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? I picked up a B/W approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing at it so much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of severity. He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the condo at the store to be on display for adoption, I guess the stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and he's been suffering off and on since then. I tried to stop by as much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats prone to tear stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy. Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements. He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and away from him But, I know he's lonely and needs some kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other! He's doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal. I know it's probably mostly because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and getting love (that probably helps more than the meds...sigh). So, if he is no longer having inflamed red eye tissue and green discharge, is he okay to mingle now? He's not sneezing and he doesn't really have any eye discharge at all, besides his regular eye boogers that he is prone to getting. He does not act like a sick cat (runs around like a maniac). I haven't seen green eye funk since the day after I brought him home (Sunday) b/c he improved almost instantly. I just wanted to know if anyone knows if he's been on the antibiotic almost a week now, showing no signs of infection, can he be mingled with the other two kittens for play-time, or should I wait longer? Thanks,Caroline Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word
RE: Question about URI contagion
That sounds like good advice! Usually, the agency I work with doesn't treat with oral antibiotics for URI eye symptons, unless accompanied by the sneezing (which the 4 kittens I had at labor day were all sneezin like crazy). Tho the B/W wasn't sneezing when I brought him home, his eyes looks so bad in the condo that I wanted to really knock out the URI, so I decided to treat with an antibiotic, but not Amoxy b/c he had that back in Sept. That was my own decision- the green eye discharge had me worried. I don't think I will keep him on the Clavamox more than 7 days tho, I just don't think it's necessary anymore. The agency I work with also seems to only have powdered Amoxy and Clavamox for treating URIs? I'm sure we could get Zithromax from one of our vets, but if it's more expensive...well, you know how that goes. However, the woman who has been in charge of the group and is clearly burned out and over-loaded (I have complained about her before)-- I took the kittens in originally b/c she had no business having kittens at her house- she is going to back off and step down and has realized she needs to stop being an over-controlling hindrence basically. Which is going to open the door to lots of things and fresh thinking from me, with people who aren't over-controlling that are willing to implement my ideas and better delegate the work...so hopefully, I will be able to push for some better treatment protocols in the very near future. The reins have already been loosened a lot and I've already been able to enact some positive changes. -Caroline Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:13:20 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Question about URI contagion in persians, who are predisposed to uri symptoms at any time, especially in shelter or new situations (stress, no noses to speak of anyway), zithromax has become the drug of choice: we don't even bother with the others for cats we pull from shelters, we just go for the zithro. the other thing is that there's many causes for runny noses and goopy eyes, and unless you actually culture out the emissions, you can't be sure what you're dealing with--might just be that kitty's reaction to stress, might be allergies , might be a virus or bacteria. so once they're responding and feeling better and want to play with the others, i figure that's the best medicine as long as they aren't sneezing constantly! MC Gloria Lane wrote: If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the others. They've probably already been exposed anyhow. Sounds like he's responded well to your loving care. FYI - I also had good luck with a dose or two of Zithromax for kittens with URI. Gloria On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? I picked up a B/W approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing at it so much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of severity. He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the condo at the store to be on display for adoption, I guess the stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and he's been suffering off and on since then. I tried to stop by as much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats prone to tear stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy. Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements. He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and away from him But, I know he's lonely and needs some kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other! He's doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal. I know it's probably mostly because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and getting love (that probably helps more than the meds...sigh). *So, if he is no longer having inflamed red eye tissue and green discharge, is he okay to mingle now? He's not sneezing and he doesn't really have any eye discharge at all*,
Re: Question about URI contagion
in persians, who are predisposed to uri symptoms at any time, especially in shelter or new situations (stress, no noses to speak of anyway), zithromax has become the drug of choice: we don't even bother with the others for cats we pull from shelters, we just go for the zithro. the other thing is that there's many causes for runny noses and goopy eyes, and unless you actually culture out the emissions, you can't be sure what you're dealing with--might just be that kitty's reaction to stress, might be allergies , might be a virus or bacteria. so once they're responding and feeling better and want to play with the others, i figure that's the best medicine as long as they aren't sneezing constantly! MC Gloria Lane wrote: If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the others. They've probably already been exposed anyhow. Sounds like he's responded well to your loving care. FYI - I also had good luck with a dose or two of Zithromax for kittens with URI. Gloria On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? I picked up a B/W approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing at it so much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of severity. He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the condo at the store to be on display for adoption, I guess the stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and he's been suffering off and on since then. I tried to stop by as much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats prone to tear stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy. Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements. He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and away from him But, I know he's lonely and needs some kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other! He's doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal. I know it's probably mostly because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and getting love (that probably helps more than the meds...sigh). *So, if he is no longer having inflamed red eye tissue and green discharge, is he okay to mingle now? He's not sneezing and he doesn't really have any eye discharge at all*, besides his regular eye boogers that he is prone to getting. He does not act like a sick cat (runs around like a maniac). I haven't seen green eye funk since the day after I brought him home (Sunday) b/c he improved almost instantly. I just wanted to know if anyone knows if he's been on the antibiotic almost a week now, showing no signs of infection, can he be mingled with the other two kittens for play-time, or should I wait longer? Thanks, Caroline Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. Play Now! http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct
RE: Question about URI contagion
Hi Caroline, I can't answer your Q (tho I'd imagine the infectious period is well over) but just wanted to say how wonderful that your little foster is doing so well in your home. Yup, I've no doubt all the love and care he's getting from you was the cure. What a lucky kitty that he found you. Thanks for everything you do Caroline. Kerry M. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 9:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Question about URI contagion Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? I picked up a B/W approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing at it so much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of severity. He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the condo at the store to be on display for adoption, I guess the stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and he's been suffering off and on since then. I tried to stop by as much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats prone to tear stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy. Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements. He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and away from him But, I know he's lonely and needs some kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other! He's doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal. I know it's probably mostly because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and getting love (that probably helps more than the meds...sigh). So, if he is no longer having inflamed red eye tissue and green discharge, is he okay to mingle now? He's not sneezing and he doesn't really have any eye discharge at all, besides his regular eye boogers that he is prone to getting. He does not act like a sick cat (runs around like a maniac). I haven't seen green eye funk since the day after I brought him home (Sunday) b/c he improved almost instantly. I just wanted to know if anyone knows if he's been on the antibiotic almost a week now, showing no signs of infection, can he be mingled with the other two kittens for play-time, or should I wait longer? Thanks, Caroline _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. Play Now! http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_ oct _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Question about URI contagion
Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? I picked up a B/W approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing at it so much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of severity. He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the condo at the store to be on display for adoption, I guess the stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and he's been suffering off and on since then. I tried to stop by as much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats prone to tear stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy. Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements. He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and away from him But, I know he's lonely and needs some kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other! He's doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal. I know it's probably mostly because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and getting love (that probably helps more than the meds...sigh). So, if he is no longer having inflamed red eye tissue and green discharge, is he okay to mingle now? He's not sneezing and he doesn't really have any eye discharge at all, besides his regular eye boogers that he is prone to getting. He does not act like a sick cat (runs around like a maniac). I haven't seen green eye funk since the day after I brought him home (Sunday) b/c he improved almost instantly. I just wanted to know if anyone knows if he's been on the antibiotic almost a week now, showing no signs of infection, can he be mingled with the other two kittens for play-time, or should I wait longer? Thanks, Caroline _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct
Re: Question about URI contagion
If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the others. They've probably already been exposed anyhow. Sounds like he's responded well to your loving care. FYI - I also had good luck with a dose or two of Zithromax for kittens with URI. Gloria On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? I picked up a B/W approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing at it so much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of severity. He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the condo at the store to be on display for adoption, I guess the stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and he's been suffering off and on since then. I tried to stop by as much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats prone to tear stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy. Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements. He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and away from him But, I know he's lonely and needs some kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other! He's doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal. I know it's probably mostly because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and getting love (that probably helps more than the meds...sigh). So, if he is no longer having inflamed red eye tissue and green discharge, is he okay to mingle now? He's not sneezing and he doesn't really have any eye discharge at all, besides his regular eye boogers that he is prone to getting. He does not act like a sick cat (runs around like a maniac). I haven't seen green eye funk since the day after I brought him home (Sunday) b/c he improved almost instantly. I just wanted to know if anyone knows if he's been on the antibiotic almost a week now, showing no signs of infection, can he be mingled with the other two kittens for play- time, or should I wait longer? Thanks, Caroline Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. Play Now!
Re: Question about URI contagion
Oddly enough, I just picked up a fact sheet that says incubation is between 2-17 days. I don't know if that helps you. On Nov 16, 2007 9:40 AM, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the others. They've probably already been exposed anyhow. Sounds like he's responded well to your loving care. FYI - I also had good luck with a dose or two of Zithromax for kittens with URI. Gloria On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? I picked up a B/W approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing at it so much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of severity. He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the condo at the store to be on display for adoption, I guess the stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and he's been suffering off and on since then. I tried to stop by as much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats prone to tear stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy. Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements. He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and away from him But, I know he's lonely and needs some kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other! He's doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal. I know it's probably mostly because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and getting love (that probably helps more than the meds...sigh). *So, if he is no longer having inflamed red eye tissue and green discharge, is he okay to mingle now? He's not sneezing and he doesn't really have any eye discharge at all*, besides his regular eye boogers that he is prone to getting. He does not act like a sick cat (runs around like a maniac). I haven't seen green eye funk since the day after I brought him home (Sunday) b/c he improved almost instantly. I just wanted to know if anyone knows if he's been on the antibiotic almost a week now, showing no signs of infection, can he be mingled with the other two kittens for play-time, or should I wait longer? Thanks, Caroline -- Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. Play Now!http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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and while it's more expensive, it is usually only a 3-day course, and it rarely needs to be repeated. it's a very nice drug. On Nov 16, 2007 12:01 PM, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I order zithromax from www.1drugstore-online.com Much cheaper than US prices. *Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: That sounds like good advice! Usually, the agency I work with doesn't treat with oral antibiotics for URI eye symptons, unless accompanied by the sneezing (which the 4 kittens I had at labor day were all sneezin like crazy). Tho the B/W wasn't sneezing when I brought him home, his eyes looks so bad in the condo that I wanted to really knock out the URI, so I decided to treat with an antibiotic, but not Amoxy b/c he had that back in Sept. That was my own decision- the green eye discharge had me worried. I don't think I will keep him on the Clavamox more than 7 days tho, I just don't think it's necessary anymore. The agency I work with also seems to only have powdered Amoxy and Clavamox for treating URIs? I'm sure we could get Zithromax from one of our vets, but if it's more expensive...well, you know how that goes. However, the woman who has been in charge of the group and is clearly burned out and over-loaded (I have complained about her before)-- I took the kittens in originally b/c she had no business having kittens at her house- she is going to back off and step down and has realized she needs to stop being an over-controlling hindrence basically. Which is going to open the door to lots of things and fresh thinking from me, with people who aren't over-controlling that are willing to implement my ideas and better delegate the work...so hopefully, I will be able to push for some better treatment protocols in the very near future. The reins have already been loosened a lot and I've already been able to enact some positive changes. -Caroline Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:13:20 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Question about URI contagion in persians, who are predisposed to uri symptoms at any time, especially in shelter or new situations (stress, no noses to speak of anyway), zithromax has become the drug of choice: we don't even bother with the others for cats we pull from shelters, we just go for the zithro. the other thing is that there's many causes for runny noses and goopy eyes, and unless you actually culture out the emissions, you can't be sure what you're dealing with--might just be that kitty's reaction to stress, might be allergies , might be a virus or bacteria. so once they're responding and feeling better and want to play with the others, i figure that's the best medicine as long as they aren't sneezing constantly! MC Gloria Lane wrote: If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the others. They've probably already been exposed anyhow. Sounds like he's responded well to your loving care. FYI - I also had good luck with a dose or two of Zithromax for kittens with URI. Gloria On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? I picked up a B/W approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing at it so much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of severity. He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the condo at the store to be on display for adoption, I guess the stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and he's been suffering off and on since then. I tried to stop by as much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats prone to tear stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy. Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements. He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and away from him But, I know he's lonely and needs some kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other! He's doing SO MUCH
RE: Question about URI contagion
I order zithromax from www.1drugstore-online.com Much cheaper than US prices.
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That sounds like good advice! Usually, the agency I work with doesn't treat
with oral antibiotics for URI eye symptons, unless accompanied by the sneezing
(which the 4 kittens I had at labor day were all sneezin like crazy). Tho the
B/W wasn't sneezing when I brought him home, his eyes looks so bad in the condo
that I wanted to really knock out the URI, so I decided to treat with an
antibiotic, but not Amoxy b/c he had that back in Sept. That was my own
decision- the green eye discharge had me worried. I don't think I will keep
him on the Clavamox more than 7 days tho, I just don't think it's necessary
anymore. The agency I work with also seems to only have powdered Amoxy and
Clavamox for treating URIs? I'm sure we could get Zithromax from one of our
vets, but if it's more expensive...well, you know
how that goes. However, the woman who has been in charge of the group and is
clearly burned out and over-loaded (I have complained about her before)-- I
took the kittens in originally b/c she had no business having kittens at her
house- she is going to back off and step down and has realized she needs to
stop being an over-controlling hindrence basically. Which is going to open the
door to lots of things and fresh thinking from me, with people who aren't
over-controlling that are willing to implement my ideas and better delegate the
work...so hopefully, I will be able to push for some better treatment protocols
in the very near future. The reins have already been loosened a lot and I've
already been able to enact some positive changes.
-Caroline
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:13:20 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Question about URI contagion
in persians, who are predisposed to uri symptoms at any time, especially
in shelter or new situations (stress, no noses to speak of anyway),
zithromax has become the drug of choice: we don't even bother with the
others for cats we pull from shelters, we just go for the zithro.
the other thing is that there's many causes for runny noses and goopy
eyes, and unless you actually culture out the emissions, you can't be
sure what you're dealing with--might just be that kitty's reaction to
stress, might be allergies , might be a virus or bacteria. so once
they're responding and feeling better and want to play with the others,
i figure that's the best medicine as long as they aren't sneezing
constantly!
MC
Gloria Lane wrote:
If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the
others. They've probably already been exposed anyhow. Sounds like
he's responded well to your loving care. FYI - I also had good luck
with a dose or two of Zithromax for kittens with URI.
Gloria
On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote:
Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? I picked up a B/W
approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c
he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no
sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor
thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing
at it so much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3
weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of
severity. He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after
treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the
condo at the store to be on display for adoption, I guess the
stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and
he's been suffering off and on since then. I tried to stop by as
much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the
store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats prone to tear
stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he
looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he
looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to
take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him
at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy. Well, I've had him
since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and Terramycin in
the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness kitten)-
they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements.
He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster
kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and
away from him But, I know he's lonely and needs some
kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other! He's
doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal. I know it's probably mostly
because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a
Re: Question about URI contagion
I know, it is quite vague. I expect it depends on the type of URI. There are all sorts of URI so it would make sense incubation periods would be different. You may know this based on your veterinary knowledge, but you can find out what strain of URI it is based on laboratory testing. I can't imagine anyone would want to do that though unless it was something life threatening. On Nov 16, 2007 10:05 AM, Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gosh- could that time frame be anymore vague! 2-17 days is a long time period! I will ask my mom how she feels about it...she is very protective of LeeRoy- even tho she's not a cat-person- b/c he's the sweetest little boy ever- the nicest cat in the world- a real people-cat and she wouldn't want him to come down with the funk. I know technically they were probably already exposed to some degree since I don't have an iso room- altho this downstairs room is about as isolated as you can get without having a separate ac/heat, etc. And Yoda and the B/W originally had the same URI anyway. Yoda is the only one from that group of 4 kittens (Metro AC orphans but not a litter) that the URI eye symptoms haven't come back on yet since he kicked it in September (the other 2 have been adopted (Tippi and GoGo-- I like to think it's b/c I spent A LOT of time cleaning them with kitty wipes, cleaning ears- Tippi's were the worst I'd seen in my 30 years- and my dad was a vet!, brushing them, pumping them full of high-qual food and supplements and giving them exercise and love...so frankly, they looked better than most of the other cats!) I have not let loose of Yoda though (added him to the condos for adoption)- even tho I know someone would grab him up b/c he's buff-colored and freaking adorable, altho he is kind of an a$$, but the cuteness makes up for it! So he's been living the high life since I took him in so he certainly hasn't had any stress that would bring the URI back out. I even moved and the little booger loved his new room and got to truly bird watch for the first time and he never even missed a beat! So much for moving causing stress on my cats! -Caroline -- Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:47:54 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Question about URI contagion Oddly enough, I just picked up a fact sheet that says incubation is between 2-17 days. I don't know if that helps you. On Nov 16, 2007 9:40 AM, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the others. They've probably already been exposed anyhow. Sounds like he's responded well to your loving care. FYI - I also had good luck with a dose or two of Zithromax for kittens with URI. Gloria On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? I picked up a B/W approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing at it so much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of severity. He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the condo at the store to be on display for adoption, I guess the stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and he's been suffering off and on since then. I tried to stop by as much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats prone to tear stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy. Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements. He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and away from him But, I know he's lonely and needs some kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other! He's doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal. I know it's probably mostly because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and getting love (that probably helps more than the meds...sigh). *So, if he is no longer having inflamed red eye tissue and green discharge, is he okay to mingle now? He's not sneezing and he doesn't really have any eye discharge at all*, besides his
