Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens beFeLV+??
I don't know the groups in Southern New Jersey (although I lived there many years ago) - but some group will gladly help you with testing and s/n. Yes, the kittens would most likely be euthanized at a shelter, if FELV +.Good chance they'd be euthanized even if negative. BTW, some vets will spay a pregnant cat, depending on how far along, some won't. Let us know what the test results are! Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 11, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Jennifer wrote: > and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is > showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as > pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for > FeLV. My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she > won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ > because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she > is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I > feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money > is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If > she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three > and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in > the house, which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and > they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't > want that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want > more kittens?? When I take her to the > vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. > > Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. > ~ loving mama to ~ > Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) > Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) > Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design
I am sorry Jennifer and all. I thought this was a private email to Jim. This was not meant for general publication. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design Hi Jim, I am distraught over Jennifer's post about Isobel. I hope I was not out of line and I hope if I wasn't, that others will comment similarly. I won't rant here but I am so upset about her irresponsibility ~ I would even say, even abusive (stronger than neglectful) behavior, in putting Isobel at risk. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James G Wilson Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:13 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design Hey all, I've finally gotten around to updating our FeLV website (with Belinda's help). You can check it out at: http://www.felineleukemia.org I hope that it is easier to read and loads a bit faster. If anyone wishes to help update the content of the site, please let me and/or Belinda know privately. Reluctantly, I've added a donations page to the site to help offset my out-of-pocket costs for maintaining the site. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research & Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design
Hi Jim, I am distraught over Jennifer's post about Isobel. I hope I was not out of line and I hope if I wasn't, that others will comment similarly. I won't rant here but I am so upset about her irresponsibility ~ I would even say, even abusive (stronger than neglectful) behavior, in putting Isobel at risk. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James G Wilson Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:13 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design Hey all, I've finally gotten around to updating our FeLV website (with Belinda's help). You can check it out at: http://www.felineleukemia.org I hope that it is easier to read and loads a bit faster. If anyone wishes to help update the content of the site, please let me and/or Belinda know privately. Reluctantly, I've added a donations page to the site to help offset my out-of-pocket costs for maintaining the site. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research & Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
Can you have them spay her even though she is pregnant? Anyway you look at it, the kittens have no future. Some people can do this and others just can't. Neither group is right or wrong. I guess the question is whether it is better to lose your life kindly and gently or, after you are several weeks or months old, to a shelter or a car or a vicious dog or.. This is something you have to settle in your heart. No one can tell you what is right or wrong. I know for myself and many on this list have made their decisions. Blessings to you for loving and caring. On Aug 11, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Jennifer wrote: > and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is > showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as > pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. > My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't > being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because > their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV > +, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so > horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight > and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is > pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my > boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, > which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're > positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want > that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more > kittens?? When I take her to the > vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. > > Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. > ~ loving mama to ~ > Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) > Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) > Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
This is heartbreaking. I am sorry for poor Isobel. If you can't afford to spay, I cannot understand why you wouldn't get Ash neutered or separate unaltered males and females. When I have rescued litters I separate the males and females to avoid unwanted pregnancies. Isobel and her kittens, if pregnant, have been so unnecessarily exposed and she, so unnecessarily pregnant. I would see if the vet will abort her pregnancy. This will likely cause greater risk to her if she is now also positive but, imho, better that than have the kittens born to an unknown future since you won't be keeping them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+?? and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her to the vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittens be FeLV+??
and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her to the vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Healthy dry foods?
I bought organic spinach, carrots, green peas, green beans and squash (usually frozen but, if we were traveling, baby food) and just ground it up in a small Black & Decker grinder and mixed it with her Primal Raw or even canned foods (again, organic no grain food). Sometimes I would get fresh carrots or broccoli. It depended on what was available at the time and what I could manage under the circumstances. I have friends who swear by Honest Kitchen's products for their dogs. www.thehonestkitchen.com has a relatively new cat version out. Dixie loved the veggies. The kittens she sent me love pumpkin mixed in their food. They are young and feral (they are indoor, cared for kittens now obviously) so we are working on diet issues. It takes time. On Aug 11, 2008, at 6:48 AM, Giselle de Grandis wrote: > Many thanks to Laurie, Jennifer, Marylyn & Sabrina for writing in > response to my question about "healthy dry foods". > > I'm now seriously considering putting Pixie on a commercially prepared > raw food diet after discovering a "BARF" supplier in a nearby town. (I > find the "BARF" moniker hilariously appropriate as a vegetarian ;P) > Their formulation for cats is strictly meats, organs and bones without > any vegetable component (which they do however include in the dog > formulation). > > Marylyn, you wrote that you added organic veggies rich in iron and/or > vitamin C to Dixie's food -- could you tell me a little more about > this? > > Sabrina, thanks for recommending the Yahoo raw food groups and > mentioning some brands of grain-free dry food, which I didn't even > know existed! If the raw food diet doesn't work out I'll definitely go > out of my way to find grain-free dry food for Pixie. > > Thanks again everyone. > > Giselle > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Healthy dry foods?
Many thanks to Laurie, Jennifer, Marylyn & Sabrina for writing in response to my question about "healthy dry foods". I'm now seriously considering putting Pixie on a commercially prepared raw food diet after discovering a "BARF" supplier in a nearby town. (I find the "BARF" moniker hilariously appropriate as a vegetarian ;P) Their formulation for cats is strictly meats, organs and bones without any vegetable component (which they do however include in the dog formulation). Marylyn, you wrote that you added organic veggies rich in iron and/or vitamin C to Dixie's food -- could you tell me a little more about this? Sabrina, thanks for recommending the Yahoo raw food groups and mentioning some brands of grain-free dry food, which I didn't even know existed! If the raw food diet doesn't work out I'll definitely go out of my way to find grain-free dry food for Pixie. Thanks again everyone. Giselle ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org