Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
Thanks Sharyl. I think that is what I would do, too (30 days). LCS -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list. Laurie, I don't know for sure about the isolation requirements. As a precaution, I kept my positives separate from my negatives until after the negative had received the 30 day booster. That was a yr ago and all are still doing fine. Amy, to build on what others have already written, enjoy each day with your big boy. Over the last yr I have rescued 6 positive kittens from a dumpster colony. I lost one in Jan. but the other 5 are doing great and are a joy to be with. Having had CRF and heart kitties I learned to treasure each day I have with my beloved companions. We do what we can with the available resources to help these sweet companions have a full and meaningful life. Love is first on the list of what these babies need. My oldest positives are 1 1/2 yrs old. The babies are 8 months old. Love and enjoy him. Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Laurieskatz wrote: > From: Laurieskatz > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list. > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:18 PM > Hi Amy. I didn't find out my boys were positive until > they were in their > teens. The vet said they were likely "carriers" > and since Squeaky was never > sick, the vet said his was likely in his bone marrow. > Stripes was > symptomatic on and off. Stripes lived several more years > (to age 16) and > Squeaky lived to age 22. > > Isabella tested positive almost 2 years ago and is the > picture of health. > > Your boy could live a long life. > > Keep your other kitties separate for at least 24 hours > after they are > vaccinated (I can't recall if they should be separate > until the booster in > 30 daysdoes anyone know?). > > Laurie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Amy Ackerman > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:19 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list. > > > Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members- > i've just joined > upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year > old cat is > positive. We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk > as he was tested > before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted > since then were both > tested... sigh. We take the other two in tomorrow morning > to be tested & > hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy > home. Hopefully he > will be with us for at least a few more months. I've > been scouring the > archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is > so much wonderful > information & support here. I look forward to being a > part of this > community. Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
Laurie, I don't know for sure about the isolation requirements. As a precaution, I kept my positives separate from my negatives until after the negative had received the 30 day booster. That was a yr ago and all are still doing fine. Amy, to build on what others have already written, enjoy each day with your big boy. Over the last yr I have rescued 6 positive kittens from a dumpster colony. I lost one in Jan. but the other 5 are doing great and are a joy to be with. Having had CRF and heart kitties I learned to treasure each day I have with my beloved companions. We do what we can with the available resources to help these sweet companions have a full and meaningful life. Love is first on the list of what these babies need. My oldest positives are 1 1/2 yrs old. The babies are 8 months old. Love and enjoy him. Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Laurieskatz wrote: > From: Laurieskatz > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list. > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:18 PM > Hi Amy. I didn't find out my boys were positive until > they were in their > teens. The vet said they were likely "carriers" > and since Squeaky was never > sick, the vet said his was likely in his bone marrow. > Stripes was > symptomatic on and off. Stripes lived several more years > (to age 16) and > Squeaky lived to age 22. > > Isabella tested positive almost 2 years ago and is the > picture of health. > > Your boy could live a long life. > > Keep your other kitties separate for at least 24 hours > after they are > vaccinated (I can't recall if they should be separate > until the booster in > 30 daysdoes anyone know?). > > Laurie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Amy Ackerman > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:19 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list. > > > Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members- > i've just joined > upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year > old cat is > positive. We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk > as he was tested > before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted > since then were both > tested... sigh. We take the other two in tomorrow morning > to be tested & > hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy > home. Hopefully he > will be with us for at least a few more months. I've > been scouring the > archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is > so much wonderful > information & support here. I look forward to being a > part of this > community. Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator
Hello Sue :-) One of my cats, Puma was diagnosed as FeLV+ in January 2009, and he is currently on the medication. He is still on his 2nd month (shot every other week), so I don't know the long term effect of this medication yet, but after the 3rd shot in the first month, I noticed that he started to eat more and became more active. I wanted my vet to do the blood test after the 3rd shot, but my vet wanted to wait, so I don't know how much the medication is helping in actual numbers (red cell count, etc...) yet, but from what I observe so far, I'm hopeful...I mean...the medication may or may not cure FeLV, but at least it seems to be helping Puma's anemia (When I brought Puma to this vet for the first time in Jan. 2009, I was told that he has severe anemia and his liver & kidney are failing because of FeLV) As for cost, I pay $85 for each visit. $60 for shot + $25 for administering the shot. Imulan's recommendation is to give the shot every week for the first month (but 4th one is optional), every other week for the second month, and every month after that. (upto 6th month) (So...1st month - 3 shots, 2nd month - 2 shots, 3rd/4th/5th/6th month - 1 shot = 9 shots) English is not my first language, so let me know if there is anything that is not clear - I will do my best to re-explain. I'm farely new to this group, but all of you has been helping Puma & me a lot (especially emotionally), so whatever I could do to help others, I would love to!!! Hiromi Page > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:32:28 + > From: fs...@roadrunner.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator > > Hello everyone, I am trying to decide if I should treat my positives with a > procuct called Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator. I believe it is made by a > company called Imulan and they claim to have had some success with it. I > e-mailed my vet with the website and he seems to think they have not tested > it enough to be certain of any results. I was just wondering if anyone on > this list has heard of it or used it and what you think of it. This is a link > the the website that has it. > www.imulan.com/ > Thank you, > Sue > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator
the original trials that showed promise were only conducted on 22 cats, which is not considered a statistically significant sample. nevertheless, the TREATMENT AID, as the company that bought out the product calls it, was granted provisional approval (tho not by the FDA) as SOMETHING THAT SHOWS PROMISE. the current "trials" they are running are not even remotely scientifically rigorous--they are four-week-long marketing ploys. ask your vet to contact the company himself and see all the secrecy involved in participating in them, and then let him/her evaluate the protocol in terms of research standards--i expect that will answer a lot of your questions. there is no evidence that the product can hurt cats, and yes, there IS promise--but if this particular one could cure FIV and FeLV as their literature claims, they'd be engaged in massive, rigidly controlled scientific trials on their own and with independent researchers to get it out into the hands of those who needed it--perhaps even at a reasonable price. lance can speak more to their deceptive marketing methods. once again, not all snake oil is GOOD snake oil (look it up on wiki.) i think it's immoral to take advantage of people's desperation. MC, who'd really like this to be the cure, but sees too many red flags waving On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:25 AM, gary wrote: > I believe there may be some people on this list (maybe it was another list) > who have used it. Some say it is working and some say it didn't work. > Your > vet is correct, there has hardly been any testing done at this point. They > recently started recruiting people for a trial, but it was only going to > last a month and that really isn't long enough. > > Seems I remember there was a list member whose husband is a vet and has > used > it and thought it was helpful, but I don't remember her name. > > It might work and might not and it is very expensive. I wouldn't use it as > a prophylactic, but I might try it to help with a symptomatic cat, if I > could afford it. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sue & Frank > Koren > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:32 AM > To: FeLV Talk > Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator > > Hello everyone, I am trying to decide if I should treat my positives with a > procuct called Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator. I believe it is made by a > company called Imulan and they claim to have had some success with it. I > e-mailed my vet with the website and he seems to think they have not tested > it enough to be certain of any results. I was just wondering if anyone on > this list has heard of it or used it and what you think of it. This is a > link the the website that has it. > www.imulan.com/ > Thank you, > Sue > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bashful to cross at 2:15 today (EST) Tampa, FL
Prayers and thoughts to you on Bashful. You did the kindest thing by helping the kitty go to the bridge so there is no more suffering. I totally understand what your going through as many of us do. Bashful is now free and running with the others at the bridge. Bless you! Please vote! _http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145_ (http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145) Tazzys Animal Transports/Siamese and Collie Rescue Sultan, WA 98294 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) Board Member for national rescue. _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) OTRA VERIFIED TRANSPORTER (On The Road Again) Terrie Mohr-Forker Copyright © 2007-2008 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. **Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp0005) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator
I believe there may be some people on this list (maybe it was another list) who have used it. Some say it is working and some say it didn't work. Your vet is correct, there has hardly been any testing done at this point. They recently started recruiting people for a trial, but it was only going to last a month and that really isn't long enough. Seems I remember there was a list member whose husband is a vet and has used it and thought it was helpful, but I don't remember her name. It might work and might not and it is very expensive. I wouldn't use it as a prophylactic, but I might try it to help with a symptomatic cat, if I could afford it. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sue & Frank Koren Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:32 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator Hello everyone, I am trying to decide if I should treat my positives with a procuct called Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator. I believe it is made by a company called Imulan and they claim to have had some success with it. I e-mailed my vet with the website and he seems to think they have not tested it enough to be certain of any results. I was just wondering if anyone on this list has heard of it or used it and what you think of it. This is a link the the website that has it. www.imulan.com/ Thank you, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator
Hi Sue The company that was originally testing the product sold it to Imulan. They decided to go ahead and market it. Anecdotal evidence shows promise. There is a lady on another group whose husband is a feline vet and was involved in some of the original trials. Although no longer involved in the studies he continues to use it on some of the FELV positive cats that he treats. The price went up considerably when it sold to Imulan. Testing is very expensive, so it may never get the testing that one would hope for after all we are talking about cats. Now before I get jumped on I am being facetious. But we do know there are people who think that way. Personally if I could have use it I would have tried. That being said I probalby could not have afforded it. Maybe your vet can get in on one of the trials if they are still conducting them. Sally in VA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator
Hello everyone, I am trying to decide if I should treat my positives with a procuct called Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator. I believe it is made by a company called Imulan and they claim to have had some success with it. I e-mailed my vet with the website and he seems to think they have not tested it enough to be certain of any results. I was just wondering if anyone on this list has heard of it or used it and what you think of it. This is a link the the website that has it. www.imulan.com/ Thank you, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
Hi, Amy -- I'm sorry your baby isn't doing well, and I'm even sorrier that diagnosis and treatment need to be ruled by, as you say, your credit line. We've all been at this point, I think. Part of the nastiness of this disease is that it's expensive all around, from the frequent vet visits to the food and supplements, to the emotional expense. Unlike many of the kitties on this list, my FeLV kitty, Patches, turned up on our doorstep one night and was gone within two months. I don't know if I could have afforded his care in the long run, and it absolutely bites to have to think in those terms about a little soul in your care. I have a cat that sounds a lot like Grrr -- thankfully he's been healthy all his life, except, y'know, for the psychosis. ;-) Best of luck with whatever your vet comes up with to treat him. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list. Thanks for the welcome & kind words, Gary & Laurie. My vet believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach financially. Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our credit lines. He's having a rough time getting around. Grrr is also, as you may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient. That may be the understatement of the month. He is slightly anemic as well, but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily pills, etc. He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his mobility/comfort & an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol. He eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary modifications as well. Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives. My other two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax. I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the support! _ Hotmail(r) is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_0320 09 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
Make sure and give the others very good food too. Chopping carrots and spinach in canned/frozen food is not hard and is not expensive either. Dixie loved them. On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Sue & Frank Koren wrote: Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard to want to care for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it. My sweet gentle Tucker used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive ways to help a sick kitty. Some would much rather be gently let go in their own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy. Your best choice may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness Core canned food.) And making sure there is little or no stress in his life. Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr. You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! Sue Amy Ackerman wrote: Thanks for the welcome & kind words, Gary & Laurie. My vet believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach financially. Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our credit lines. He's having a rough time getting around. Grrr is also, as you may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient. That may be the understatement of the month. He is slightly anemic as well, but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily pills, etc. He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his mobility/comfort & an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol. He eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary modifications as well. Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives. My other two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax. I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the support! _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper & Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard to want to care for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it. My sweet gentle Tucker used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive ways to help a sick kitty. Some would much rather be gently let go in their own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy. Your best choice may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness Core canned food.) And making sure there is little or no stress in his life. Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr. You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! Sue Amy Ackerman wrote: > > Thanks for the welcome & kind words, Gary & Laurie. My vet > believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools > recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach > financially. Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult > day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our > credit lines. He's having a rough time getting around. Grrr is also, as you > may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient. That may > be the understatement of the month. He is slightly anemic as well, but > his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily > pills, etc. He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his > mobility/comfort & an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the > drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol. He > eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary > modifications as well. Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive > treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a > tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too > close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives. My other > two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home > tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax. > I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the > support! > > _ > Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. > http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
