Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability

2009-03-18 Thread Stefania

 i think you owe it to others who
 adopt from this shelter and the shelter itself to tell them
 about this.  maybe they don't realize that they should
 test all cat coming to them and maybe they are staffed by

Hello, 
I spoke to the volunteers of the shelter about my cat, but the situation has 
gotten worse. They says they informed me he was not tested and I remember 
clearly they did not. So, we are on opposite sides.
However, they now do test their cats, even if I think that those tests cannot 
be accurate 100% due to the living situation in a shelter, where many cats are 
together and diseases can be spreaded easily.

The situation in my home is:
Trudi, FIV- FeLV+, with dermatitis and stomatitis. She seem better than before, 
but not ok. She has a check-up scheduled for next saturday.
Ginny, negative for both.
Babette, negative for both and under vaccination just now (she got the first 
shot and on saturday she will receive the second one). I hope everything is 
well.
Miro, FIV and FeLV+, under this last two weeks has developed a serious illnes 
that can be something of the liver or FIP! This was the final stroke, for me.
I'm very very sad. The vets suspect FIP or another disease and we sent a sample 
of its abdominal liquid for a PCR.
Does anyone have info about FIP?
I have read a lot and discovered that it's very difficult to diagnose, so maybe 
he has another disease and it's better to treat him for them.
I know that FIP has no cure.

Stefania


  

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Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability

2009-03-18 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I concur about the FELV and the FIV - some vets just don't seem to  
keep up, or have much personal knowledge of these viruses.


Gloria


On Mar 6, 2009, at 10:02 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net 
 wrote:


re:  vets.  how true. i feel i am lucky that my vet has an open mind  
and if i tell him about something i have read about, he asks for a  
copy if it is something he is unaware of.  i also put him onto this  
site and he is now a fan.  great to have a vet who admits he doesn't  
know everything and is willing to learn more.  dorlis

 Rosenfeldt wrote:

Stef --

Sorry you're having all this trouble and worry right now.

About FIV, you are right and your vet is wrong.  It is VERY hard to  
transmit other than through fighting (deep bites) and sex.  It's  
much less contagious than FeLV, and even FeLV appears to be not  
as contagious as originally thought.  I'm on a feral cat list where  
there has been some discussion of FeLV, and people have said  
they've seen cat colonies where they know that some cats are FeLV+,  
and if it's as transmissible as we're supposed to believe, the  
whole colonies should have gotten sick and died, and they just  
haven't.  The trouble is that for some reason some vets don't keep  
up with new research as much as they should, and keep giving wrong  
information, and more importantly, don't know the right things to  
do to keep the cats as healthy as possible or to treat them  
properly when they do get sick.


Your cats are very cute!

Diane R.



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] On Behalf Of Stefania

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability


Hi Chris,
thank-you very much for sharing your story. The problem here is  
that in these days I read very much on FeLV and FIV and I agree  
with you. My cats have always been together (except for Trudi, who  
is a lone wolf), they play, groom each other and they eat together  
even if they have one bowl each :-)
They go out and I live in the country, so there are surely many  
stray cats and many owners who don't bother to test their cats!


What am I supposed to do? I don't want to keep them inside because  
it's like a prison for them.


On friday I will test the last two of them and I strongly hope  
they're negative, so I will continue to vaccine them and hope.


My vet scared me a lot saying that FIV is very transmissible and  
the virus is strong and cats can catch it by grooming each other.  
Since I knew that it's not so, I tried to ask once again to this  
vet, but she keeps on saying that FIV spreads very well. I'm really  
surprised to hear so...


I so decided to take Trudi to another vet and she immediately  
recognized stomatitis in her mouth (which the first one denied) and  
nose. She simply gave me a gel for her mouth. About the dermatitis:  
it can be for amoxicillin but we don't know. We decided to use,  
first, something against fleas and then wait and see. If the  
situation does not change, we will try with a local gel.


Has anyone had experience with dermatitis?
For Trudi it's the first time, and that's why I think it was the  
amoxicillin.


If you want to see picture of my 4 babies, I have a blog. It's  
written in cattish so you cannot understand, but you can see  
pictures.

It's www.trumiro.com

Hi all!
Stef


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Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability

2009-03-18 Thread Heather
Very sorry to hear this, Stefania--I would suggest joining  posting to the
FIP group, there are some people on there who are very knowledgable about
things to try to rule out with FIP diagnosis and such.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/   Post any test results you have.

I hope and pray Miro does not have FIP, give him a kiss for us!

Heather

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Stefania pebble...@yahoo.it wrote:


  i think you owe it to others who
  adopt from this shelter and the shelter itself to tell them
  about this.  maybe they don't realize that they should
  test all cat coming to them and maybe they are staffed by

 Hello,
 I spoke to the volunteers of the shelter about my cat, but the situation
 has gotten worse. They says they informed me he was not tested and I
 remember clearly they did not. So, we are on opposite sides.
 However, they now do test their cats, even if I think that those tests
 cannot be accurate 100% due to the living situation in a shelter, where many
 cats are together and diseases can be spreaded easily.

 The situation in my home is:
 Trudi, FIV- FeLV+, with dermatitis and stomatitis. She seem better than
 before, but not ok. She has a check-up scheduled for next saturday.
 Ginny, negative for both.
 Babette, negative for both and under vaccination just now (she got the
 first shot and on saturday she will receive the second one). I hope
 everything is well.
 Miro, FIV and FeLV+, under this last two weeks has developed a serious
 illnes that can be something of the liver or FIP! This was the final stroke,
 for me.
 I'm very very sad. The vets suspect FIP or another disease and we sent a
 sample of its abdominal liquid for a PCR.
 Does anyone have info about FIP?
 I have read a lot and discovered that it's very difficult to diagnose, so
 maybe he has another disease and it's better to treat him for them.
 I know that FIP has no cure.

 Stefania




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