[Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

2010-09-01 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I've been asked about a cat here in Arkansas - a Persian named  
Bicford, that is about 1.5 yrs old, and tested "faint" positive on the  
snap test (Elisa), but negative on the IFA.  I gather that means that  
Bicford has been exposed, so has antigens, but doesn't have the virus  
in his blood?  I'm confused.


Can someone help me with interpreting what that means?

Thanks,

Gloria


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Re: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

2010-09-01 Thread Natalie
Whenever this happened to me with kittens that were tested for FIV, I was
told that they had most likely been born to FIV+ mothers and as their immune
systems developed, they would shed the faint positives.and they ALWAYS
did! I don't know if that's the case with FeLV.

I have two young adult cats that are FeLV+, but absolutely no symptoms and
healthy as a horse!

Natalie

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Subject: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

I've been asked about a cat here in Arkansas - a Persian named  
Bicford, that is about 1.5 yrs old, and tested "faint" positive on the  
snap test (Elisa), but negative on the IFA.  I gather that means that  
Bicford has been exposed, so has antigens, but doesn't have the virus  
in his blood?  I'm confused.

Can someone help me with interpreting what that means?

Thanks,

Gloria


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Re: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

2010-09-01 Thread Barb Moermond
it's a yes/no test, no shades of grey

the antigens are either present or not

"faint" pos is a meaningless term
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito


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his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 

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From: Gloria B. Lane 
To: Feline Leukemia 
Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 6:30:22 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

I've been asked about a cat here in Arkansas - a Persian named Bicford, that is 
about 1.5 yrs old, and tested "faint" positive on the snap test (Elisa), but 
negative on the IFA.  I gather that means that Bicford has been exposed, so has 
antigens, but doesn't have the virus in his blood?  I'm confused.

Can someone help me with interpreting what that means?

Thanks,

Gloria


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Re: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

2010-09-01 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Thank you so much - this is a great group, as always, and I really  
appreciate the replies.


This is my take, re your comment Natalie.  With FIV, the "snap" test  
is for antibodies in the blood.  Kittens of an FIV mom, when they are  
nursing, can take in the mothers FIV antibodies.  It's different for  
FELV, the test is for Antigens, and apparently the transmission of the  
virus is not the same.  Kittens of an FIV mom are very likely to get  
the antigens but not the virus, depending on when mom was infected.   
Our rescue has seen this happen many times - kittens of an FIV mom  
invariably go negative before they're a year old - yeaa!


With FELV, as I recall its different, I think (but not sure) that some  
of the kittens can actually get the virus from mom, but can throw it  
off as their immune systems develop.   This is just on memory, so if  
somebody knows, please correct me. So I'm gather that perhaps the  
antigens hadn't cleared yet at the time of the snap, and Linda seemed  
to agree with that.


Anyhow, this is a 1.5 yr old cat, so the question is, with a light pos  
on Elisa snap test, and a negative on the followup IFA test, what does  
it mean?


MC responded and said it could also be a bad snap test. Or bad  
procedures for testing.  Also asked at what interval were the tests  
done?  So I'm going to check out exactly when the tests were done and  
what brand were the tests and who did them.


But what I'm also hearing, is if neg on the followup IFA, then kitty  
is neg regardless of the snap. Yes?


I've been asked to take this kitty, so am exploring my options.  I  
know if he's FELV it's unlikely he'll get adopted so he'll be a  
permanent resident.  I already have several FELV cats, and have no  
fear of the virus, even mixed with healthy cats, vaccinated or not,  
but just have to be prepared for adding another cat.  My FELV's are  
healthy too, I haven't lost one in a while, and I'm amazed at that.


But I know, if he's not FELV, he'll get adopted in a month cause he's  
so gorgeous!  So trying to make sense of the data to tell if he's  
actually FELV or not.


Again thanks I appreciate your help and support. This is a wonderful  
group, always has been, a great resource.  I'll check more into the  
tests that were used on Bicford and let you know.


Gloria




On Sep 1, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Natalie wrote:

Whenever this happened to me with kittens that were tested for FIV,  
I was
told that they had most likely been born to FIV+ mothers and as  
their immune
systems developed, they would shed the faint positives.and they  
ALWAYS

did! I don't know if that's the case with FeLV.

I have two young adult cats that are FeLV+, but absolutely no  
symptoms and

healthy as a horse!

Natalie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B.  
Lane

Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:30 PM
To: Feline Leukemia
Subject: [Felvtalk] faint pos on snap test, neg on IFA

I've been asked about a cat here in Arkansas - a Persian named
Bicford, that is about 1.5 yrs old, and tested "faint" positive on the
snap test (Elisa), but negative on the IFA.  I gather that means that
Bicford has been exposed, so has antigens, but doesn't have the virus
in his blood?  I'm confused.

Can someone help me with interpreting what that means?

Thanks,

Gloria


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