Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions
The only thing you left out is felv can be beaten. The cat throws off the virus on its own or it gets help from a human. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone Pam Norman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi all, > >We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately >5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house & was going >to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At >the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are >desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the >approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether >she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy & looks great. She has >had so far only the snap test & as I understand it, the IFA test should >follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? > >We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small >children & the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago & >they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize >soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow & I am planning >on telling her pretty much the following: > >There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested >positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health >& how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties >will not live long at all; others can live for years: & still others >will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats >right now & I can tell them for sure that they will never have to >euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option >of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not & she would >join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can >keep her & give her good & loving care for as long as she has, knowing >that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. >It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about >compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will >hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good & >beautiful thing. > >Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a >FeLeuk kitty before & I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need >to information I can provide that is fair & objective so that they can >make an informed & compassionate decision. I very much want them to take >her but I do not want to mislead them either. > >Please help me. > >Pam > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite
No, my mother was against unnecessary antibiotics, and this cost less --- unfortunately, the FDA is trying to make IV Vitamin C illegal now because it helps so many things, including certain cancers. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite She prob got iv antibiotics..maybe ceflex... Christiane Biagi Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Natalie wrote: >My mother had a red line going up her arm after being bitten while she was >medicating one of her cats and received Vitamin C by IV! > >-Original Message- >From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi >Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 10:34 AM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite > >All the advice u got is got is good BUT if u start seeing red line going up to >arm, get to dr right away. Have had many cat bites but one last dec required >overnite in hospital for iv antibiotics to avoid sepsis. Something to do w >bacteria in cats moiuth. > >Christiane Biagi >Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G > >Jannes Taylor wrote: > >>Last night I had Amber in my lap upstairs. I am trying to get her use to >>seeing >>the other cats and use to the upstairs life. I had the IFA test performed by >>another vet and will hear from it next week. I am being optimistic so I >>wanted >>to get a head start on getting her acclamated. My youngest cat Moses decided >>to >>suddenly jump in my lap with her and Amber freaked out! In the process of >>holding on to her she bit me very hard on my hand. It hurt so bad and still >>does. It is red and slightly swollen. My husband thinks I am being paranoid >>about it, but I had a friend who almost lost his arm due to infection from a >>cat >>bite. Should I visit the doctor?? >> Jannes >>___ >>Felvtalk mailing list >>Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite
A doctor of all people should know that FeLV is species specific!! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 2:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite I just got back form the doctor and got two different antibiotics, and a tetnus shot. She wants to do an x-ray next week. Their x-ray machine was not working this morning. The doctor warned me how dangerous a cat bite can be. The area is red and swollen and still hurts. I explained how the bite happened. The doc seemed satisfied with my story. I did leave out the FELV part just in case... ON A HAPPY NOTE: Just when I arrived at the doctors office I received a call from the vet. Amber's IFA test was NEGATIVE!! What a relief. Just goes to prove that every cat should be restested. Also, he guesses Amber to be from 2 to 3 years old, not 6 mo. to 1 yr.. like the last one. He said that a younger cat could not have as much tartar on their teeth as she does no matter how poor their diet. Also. he shaved her belly and it looks like she has a spay scar. I am going to get the smaller cage out and put it upstaris and I will put Amber in it occassionally so they can all sniff each other and hopefully soon get along. I am moving her into the spare bedroom as well. I do not plan to put her in my lap again!!! Jannes From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 12:43:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite Thanks, good to know! - Original Message - From: "Christiane Biagi" To: Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite > Dont think it has to be deep. Cats have a specific bacteria in their mouth > (begins w p) n if it gets into humans, its very toxic. Been bitten a > number of times w nothing; but last time it was bad luck. Look for the > telltale line up ur arm. Means bacteria traveling 2 lymph nofes under ur > arm. Comes pretty quicklu > > Christiane Biagi > Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G > > Lynda Wilson wrote: > >>Wow! Reading all of these messages with bad experience with cat bites, I >>consider myself VERY lucky. I've gotten bit a lot, but it sounds like it >>has >>to be a deep puncture type bite. Is this correct? I'm glad that you have >>shared your experiences. I bet most of us now won't mess around if we get >>bit. I know I won't! >> >>Jannes - what have you done so far? How are you feeling? Let us hear from >>you soon :0) I'm hoping you have a good outcome! >> >>Lynda >>- Original Message - >>From: "Maureen Olvey" >>To: >>Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:53 AM >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite >> >> >> >>OMG - when I got bit a couple months ago I just ran inside and washed it >>out >>really good with soap and water. That was it. Guess I was lucky. I had >>read that soap and water are good enough as long as you wash it good so >>now >>when I get scratched I just use soap and water. Anyway, I never went to >>the doc until three weeks later for something else. That's when I talked >>to >>him about it and he fussed at me. Guess I'll be more careful next time. >>Yikes! >> >>“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are >>profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon >>unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me >>sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark >>Twain >> >> >> >>> From: sea7...@gmail.com >>> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:43:40 -0500 >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite >>> >>> Wash the wound with antibiotic soap and keep antibiotic ointment on it. >>> Also treat with hot compresses. It will draw white blood cells to the >>> area. The Dr told me to do this. >>> Autumn bit the fire out of me when I was 6 months pregnant. My hand >>> swelled up and was red and sore. I never developed streaks, but went to >>> Urgent Care for antibiotics. Make sure you eat your yogurt, if you get >>> them. They are STRONG. FELV + have filthy mouths:-/ >>> I also urge you not to tell them that it was your cat. Just emphasize >>> that >>> said cat had it's rabies shot. >>> ~Susan A >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Jannes Taylor >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Last night I had Amber in my lap upstairs. I am trying to get her use >>> > to >>> > seeing >>> > the other cats and use to the upstairs life. I had the IFA test >>> > performed by >>> > another vet and will hear from it next week. I am being optimistic so >>> > I >>> > wanted >>> > to get a head start on getting her acclamated. My youngest cat Moses >>> > decided to >>> > suddenly jump in my lap with her and Amber freaked out! In the process >>> > of >>> > holding on to her she bit me very hard on my hand. It hurt so bad and >>> > still >>>
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite
That's fantastic news! I['m so happy that that you redid the test! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 2:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite Thank heavens!! I'm double happy for you! What a relief for you and your kitties that she is negative. Thank you so much for the update, whew! Glad you went to the doctor!! I've learned so much from your posting regarding cat bites. Lynda - Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" To: Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite >I just got back form the doctor and got two different antibiotics, and a >tetnus > shot. She wants to do an x-ray next week. Their x-ray machine was not > working > this morning. The doctor warned me how dangerous a cat bite can be. The > area is > red and swollen and still hurts. I explained how the bite happened. The > doc > seemed satisfied with my story. I did leave out the FELV part just in > case... > ON A HAPPY NOTE: Just when I arrived at the doctors office I received a > call > from the vet. Amber's IFA test was NEGATIVE!! What a relief. Just goes to > prove > that every cat should be restested. Also, he guesses Amber to be from 2 to > 3 > years old, not 6 mo. to 1 yr.. like the last one. He said that a younger > cat > could not have as much tartar on their teeth as she does no matter how > poor > their diet. Also. he shaved her belly and it looks like she has a spay > scar. I > am going to get the smaller cage out and put it upstaris and I will put > Amber in > it occassionally so they can all sniff each other and hopefully soon get > along. > I am moving her into the spare bedroom as well. I do not plan to put her > in my > lap again!!! > Jannes > > > > > > From: Lynda Wilson > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 12:43:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite > > Thanks, good to know! > - Original Message - > From: "Christiane Biagi" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 12:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite > > >> Dont think it has to be deep. Cats have a specific bacteria in their >> mouth >> (begins w p) n if it gets into humans, its very toxic. Been bitten a >> number of times w nothing; but last time it was bad luck. Look for the >> telltale line up ur arm. Means bacteria traveling 2 lymph nofes under ur >> arm. Comes pretty quicklu >> >> Christiane Biagi >> Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G >> >> Lynda Wilson wrote: >> >>>Wow! Reading all of these messages with bad experience with cat bites, I >>>consider myself VERY lucky. I've gotten bit a lot, but it sounds like it >>>has >>>to be a deep puncture type bite. Is this correct? I'm glad that you have >>>shared your experiences. I bet most of us now won't mess around if we get >>>bit. I know I won't! >>> >>>Jannes - what have you done so far? How are you feeling? Let us hear from >>>you soon :0) I'm hoping you have a good outcome! >>> >>>Lynda >>>- Original Message - >>>From: "Maureen Olvey" >>>To: >>>Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:53 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite >>> >>> >>> >>>OMG - when I got bit a couple months ago I just ran inside and washed it >>>out >>>really good with soap and water. That was it. Guess I was lucky. I had >>>read that soap and water are good enough as long as you wash it good so >>>now >>>when I get scratched I just use soap and water. Anyway, I never went to >>>the doc until three weeks later for something else. That's when I talked >>>to >>>him about it and he fussed at me. Guess I'll be more careful next time. >>>Yikes! >>> >>>“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that >>>are >>>profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon >>>unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me >>>sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark >>>Twain >>> >>> >>> From: sea7...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:43:40 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite Wash the wound with antibiotic soap and keep antibiotic ointment on it. Also treat with hot compresses. It will draw white blood cells to the area. The Dr told me to do this. Autumn bit the fire out of me when I was 6 months pregnant. My hand swelled up and was red and sore. I never developed streaks, but went to Urgent Care for antibiotics. Make sure you eat your yogurt, if you get them. They are STRONG. FELV + have filthy mouths:-/ I also urge you not to tell them that it was your cat. Just emphasize that said cat had it's rabies shot. ~Susan A Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > Last night I had Amber in my lap upst
Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions
And remember, even with FeLV neg cats we never know how long we will have them either. There are many people who lose their "healthy" cats to all kinds of things. I have seen many people's FeLV kitty outlive their neg kitty! :) Tanya --- On Sun, 6/5/11, Mark wrote: > From: Mark > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 6:12 AM > The only thing you left out is felv > can be beaten. The cat throws off the virus on its own or it > gets help from a human. > > Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone > > Pam Norman > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi all, > > > >We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is > an approximately > >5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a > dope house & was going > >to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive > for FeLeuk. At > >the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from > here. We are > >desperately trying to find someone who will take her > for the > >approximately 6 months that I understand will give a > good idea whether > >she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy & > looks great. She has > >had so far only the snap test & as I understand it, > the IFA test should > >follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? > > > >We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But > she has two small > >children & the family had to put down their 2 > Siamese about a year ago & > >they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will > have to euthanize > >soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be > tomorrow & I am planning > >on telling her pretty much the following: > > > >There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will > live who has tested > >positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - > her general health > >& how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, > etc. Some kitties > >will not live long at all; others can live for years: > & still others > >will fall somewhere in between. No > guarantees. They have no other cats > >right now & I can tell them for sure that they will > never have to > >euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, > they have the option > >of having us take her to the sanctuary where she > is not & she would > >join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the > sanctuary. Or they can > >keep her & give her good & loving care for as > long as she has, knowing > >that they played a huge part in making her life one > filled with love. > >It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them > something about > >compassion, about caring for an animal that they may > lose, that it will > >hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have > done a good & > >beautiful thing. > > > >Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have > never had a > >FeLeuk kitty before & I am no expert on this. > So I am very much in need > >to information I can provide that is fair & > objective so that they can > >make an informed & compassionate decision. I very > much want them to take > >her but I do not want to mislead them either. > > > >Please help me. > > > >Pam > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions
Pam, You don't have to wait 3 weeks to do an IFA test. I believe you can do it now. Here is a link that you can have them read, it is helpful... http://www.acfacat.com/felv.htm Since she is still a kitten her chances of clearing the virus is lower than if she was an adult. My kitten tested negative for it on the ELISA test when he was 5 mos, then at 9 mos tested a light positive, but was severely ill (anemic, heart murmur, very low oxygen level, and weakness) and we had to put him to sleep. He also had coccidia. In my opinion, what you plan on telling her is correct. However, you may want to mention that it may effect them financially. Even though she appears healthy now, she could need expensive meds later. Remember that cats hide their symptoms really well, but she could be able to clear the virus. I hope this is exactly what happens, then no worries either way. How old their kids are, in my opinion, would depend on how they would learn from this experience. You're heart is in the right place and she is very lucky to have you be so compassionate and eager to find her the home she deserves. Good luck! Keep us posted. I hope this helped. Lynda - Original Message - From: "Pam Norman" To: Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:35 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Questiions Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house & was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy & looks great. She has had so far only the snap test & as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children & the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago & they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow & I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health & how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: & still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now & I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not & she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her & give her good & loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good & beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before & I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair & objective so that they can make an informed & compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Sabrina - testing
What is the sequence of testing for FeLeuk cats? Sabrina had the snap test about a week ago. I have seen differing opinions as to when the first IFA should be done. I read somewhere 3 months after the snap test, but a vet with one of our networks says no, it can/should be done now. We are planning on getting the IFA done tomorrow, hopefully. Is this correct? And just what is the sequence & timing of all testing to see if the cat has thrown the virus? I read that the period of time is about 6 months. Is this right? And what tests should be done & when? THANK you! Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions
If she is 5 months old and has been diagnosed with FeLV, she must not have been born with it, especially since she has no symptoms. I am no expert, and have had little experience - one kitten that was born with it to a positive mother - Nemo had symptoms, was treated with interferon and other things, got convulsions and died at age 3 months. I had an adult cat that tested positive, and was retested 3 months later, was negative. Now, I have two approx. 4 yr old males, very healthy, asymptomatic, most likely NOT born with it, but infected later - or, just carriers, although I'm not sure what exactly that means. Based on what I have experienced, Sabrina would fall into the second or third category; with good food, supplements, no stress and a lot of TLC, she may turn out to be negative, and if not, still have a long and healthy life! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 6:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions The only thing you left out is felv can be beaten. The cat throws off the virus on its own or it gets help from a human. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone Pam Norman wrote: >Hi all, > >We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately >5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house & was going >to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At >the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are >desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the >approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether >she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy & looks great. She has >had so far only the snap test & as I understand it, the IFA test should >follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? > >We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small >children & the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago & >they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize >soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow & I am planning >on telling her pretty much the following: > >There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested >positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health >& how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties >will not live long at all; others can live for years: & still others >will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats >right now & I can tell them for sure that they will never have to >euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option >of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not & she would >join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can >keep her & give her good & loving care for as long as she has, knowing >that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. >It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about >compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will >hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good & >beautiful thing. > >Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a >FeLeuk kitty before & I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need >to information I can provide that is fair & objective so that they can >make an informed & compassionate decision. I very much want them to take >her but I do not want to mislead them either. > >Please help me. > >Pam > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sabrina - testing
I've been told the sameIFA test if cat has ever had a positive ELISA (snap) test. I have been told by my vet that 6 mos is safe to say that if it test negative after 6 mos of being exposed, then it's good. But once the cat/kitten receives a positive IFA test, then it's infected for life. By the way, most cats test positive 28 days after exposure. I'm not sure on the time frame of young kittens. Good luck, Pam! - Original Message - From: "Pam Norman" To: Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 9:39 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Sabrina - testing What is the sequence of testing for FeLeuk cats? Sabrina had the snap test about a week ago. I have seen differing opinions as to when the first IFA should be done. I read somewhere 3 months after the snap test, but a vet with one of our networks says no, it can/should be done now. We are planning on getting the IFA done tomorrow, hopefully. Is this correct? And just what is the sequence & timing of all testing to see if the cat has thrown the virus? I read that the period of time is about 6 months. Is this right? And what tests should be done & when? THANK you! Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions
I disagree that "if she is 5 mos old and has been diagnosed withFeLV, she must not have been born with it." I don't see how that could ever be proven. All kittens/cats have immune systems that can breakdown at different times. Here is my experience: My 3 mos old kitten that I fostered from the Humane Society, until it was 5 1/2 mos, tested negative after being neutered at 5 1/2 mos. It was then I adopted it. Within 4 mos he was deathly ill with the virus. I was told he was probably born with it and it did not show up yet, or the test was a false negative. He's always been in my house and never anywhere else except for the vet that takes care of the HS kitties. He could have been born with it because his immune systems was already weak because the entire litter had coccidia. Otherwise, the only thing I can guess is that he contracted it at the HS vet's office either when he got neutered or when he got his vaccinations. My adult cat that is strictly an indoor cat, has had 3 ELISA tests and has tested negative on all of them. But I am going to test him again in 3 more months (that would make the 6 mos period) just to be absolutely sure. - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions If she is 5 months old and has been diagnosed with FeLV, she must not have been born with it, especially since she has no symptoms. I am no expert, and have had little experience - one kitten that was born with it to a positive mother - Nemo had symptoms, was treated with interferon and other things, got convulsions and died at age 3 months. I had an adult cat that tested positive, and was retested 3 months later, was negative. Now, I have two approx. 4 yr old males, very healthy, asymptomatic, most likely NOT born with it, but infected later - or, just carriers, although I'm not sure what exactly that means. Based on what I have experienced, Sabrina would fall into the second or third category; with good food, supplements, no stress and a lot of TLC, she may turn out to be negative, and if not, still have a long and healthy life! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 6:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions The only thing you left out is felv can be beaten. The cat throws off the virus on its own or it gets help from a human. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone Pam Norman wrote: Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house & was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy & looks great. She has had so far only the snap test & as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children & the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago & they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow & I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health & how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: & still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now & I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not & she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her & give her good & loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good & beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before & I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair & objective so that they can make an informed & compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemi
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I know it can't be proven; but when they are born with it, they are usually sickish and die soon - most don't make it past a few months (that I have know of at my friend's rescue group). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions I disagree that "if she is 5 mos old and has been diagnosed withFeLV, she must not have been born with it." I don't see how that could ever be proven. All kittens/cats have immune systems that can breakdown at different times. Here is my experience: My 3 mos old kitten that I fostered from the Humane Society, until it was 5 1/2 mos, tested negative after being neutered at 5 1/2 mos. It was then I adopted it. Within 4 mos he was deathly ill with the virus. I was told he was probably born with it and it did not show up yet, or the test was a false negative. He's always been in my house and never anywhere else except for the vet that takes care of the HS kitties. He could have been born with it because his immune systems was already weak because the entire litter had coccidia. Otherwise, the only thing I can guess is that he contracted it at the HS vet's office either when he got neutered or when he got his vaccinations. My adult cat that is strictly an indoor cat, has had 3 ELISA tests and has tested negative on all of them. But I am going to test him again in 3 more months (that would make the 6 mos period) just to be absolutely sure. - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions > If she is 5 months old and has been diagnosed with FeLV, she must not have > been born with it, especially since she has no symptoms. I am no expert, > and have had little experience - one kitten that was born with it to a > positive mother - Nemo had symptoms, was treated with interferon and other > things, got convulsions and died at age 3 months. I had an adult cat that > tested positive, and was retested 3 months later, was negative. Now, I > have two approx. 4 yr old males, very healthy, asymptomatic, most likely > NOT born with it, but infected later - or, just carriers, although I'm not > sure what exactly that means. > Based on what I have experienced, Sabrina would fall into the second or > third category; with good food, supplements, no stress and a lot of TLC, > she may turn out to be negative, and if not, still have a long and healthy > life! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mark > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 6:12 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions > > The only thing you left out is felv can be beaten. The cat throws off the > virus on its own or it gets help from a human. > > Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone > > Pam Norman wrote: > >>Hi all, >> >>We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately >>5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house & was going >>to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At >>the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are >>desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the >>approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether >>she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy & looks great. She has >>had so far only the snap test & as I understand it, the IFA test should >>follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? >> >>We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small >>children & the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago & >>they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize >>soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow & I am planning >>on telling her pretty much the following: >> >>There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested >>positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health >>& how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties >>will not live long at all; others can live for years: & still others >>will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats >>right now & I can tell them for sure that they will never have to >>euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option >>of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not & she would >>join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can >>keep her & give her good & loving care for as long as she has, knowing >>that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. >>It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about >>compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will >>hurt them t
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Pam My $0.02 is that you have all the right reasoning. I would just emphasis that we never know what may happen in the future, to ourselves or our pets. And that while tough things may happen, wonderful things will happen too. And the experience of opening one's home and heart to an ill being (human or animal) is an act of great generosity and kindness, which usually has its rewards. But, in the end, these folks must make the decision best for their family. The only thing worse than no home is the wrong home. I wish you luck. Blessings to you for trying to help little Sabriina. ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 9:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Questiions Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house & was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy & looks great. She has had so far only the snap test & as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children & the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago & they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow & I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health & how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: & still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now & I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not & she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her & give her good & loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good & beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before & I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair & objective so that they can make an informed & compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Very well said, Bonnie!! - Original Message - From: "Bonnie Hogue" To: Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions Pam My $0.02 is that you have all the right reasoning. I would just emphasis that we never know what may happen in the future, to ourselves or our pets. And that while tough things may happen, wonderful things will happen too. And the experience of opening one's home and heart to an ill being (human or animal) is an act of great generosity and kindness, which usually has its rewards. But, in the end, these folks must make the decision best for their family. The only thing worse than no home is the wrong home. I wish you luck. Blessings to you for trying to help little Sabriina. ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 9:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Questiions Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house & was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy & looks great. She has had so far only the snap test & as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children & the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago & they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow & I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health & how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: & still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now & I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not & she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her & give her good & loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good & beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before & I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair & objective so that they can make an informed & compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My vet always thought that they never were actually born with it but were infected moments after birth... And the mother who was very sick would pass soon after giving birth... The kittens would be in poor health because of poor nutrition from the sick mother... One of my first rescues was a litter of 4 kittens that were found alone at about one day old and were hand raised till at 8 weeks they were tested and found to be pos Again at 12 weeks and again at 16 weeks when they came to live with me They were all very healthy kittens... The first one passed at about 6 months... The second at 9 months and the last 2 at 11 and 12 months I have always thought that was average for kittens exposed at a very young age I have had several older pos. cats live for about 6 years Tad On 6/5/2011 12:48 PM, Natalie wrote: I know it can't be proven; but when they are born with it, they are usually sickish and die soon - most don't make it past a few months (that I have know of at my friend's rescue group). ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Heartbreaking :( - Original Message - From: "Tad Burnett" To: Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions My vet always thought that they never were actually born with it but were infected moments after birth... And the mother who was very sick would pass soon after giving birth... The kittens would be in poor health because of poor nutrition from the sick mother... One of my first rescues was a litter of 4 kittens that were found alone at about one day old and were hand raised till at 8 weeks they were tested and found to be pos Again at 12 weeks and again at 16 weeks when they came to live with me They were all very healthy kittens... The first one passed at about 6 months... The second at 9 months and the last 2 at 11 and 12 months I have always thought that was average for kittens exposed at a very young age I have had several older pos. cats live for about 6 years Tad On 6/5/2011 12:48 PM, Natalie wrote: I know it can't be proven; but when they are born with it, they are usually sickish and die soon - most don't make it past a few months (that I have know of at my friend's rescue group). ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Here's a slightly different view, on a different situation: http://www.vetinfo.com/cfeleuk.html It's obvious that after so many years, there are still too many questions about FeLV! Between all of us, we could probably fill a book with different scenarios! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 8:37 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions Pam, You don't have to wait 3 weeks to do an IFA test. I believe you can do it now. Here is a link that you can have them read, it is helpful... http://www.acfacat.com/felv.htm Since she is still a kitten her chances of clearing the virus is lower than if she was an adult. My kitten tested negative for it on the ELISA test when he was 5 mos, then at 9 mos tested a light positive, but was severely ill (anemic, heart murmur, very low oxygen level, and weakness) and we had to put him to sleep. He also had coccidia. In my opinion, what you plan on telling her is correct. However, you may want to mention that it may effect them financially. Even though she appears healthy now, she could need expensive meds later. Remember that cats hide their symptoms really well, but she could be able to clear the virus. I hope this is exactly what happens, then no worries either way. How old their kids are, in my opinion, would depend on how they would learn from this experience. You're heart is in the right place and she is very lucky to have you be so compassionate and eager to find her the home she deserves. Good luck! Keep us posted. I hope this helped. Lynda - Original Message - From: "Pam Norman" To: Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:35 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Questiions > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 > month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house & was going to > come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the > moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately > trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months > that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or > not. She is healthy & looks great. She has had so far only the snap test > & as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this > correct? > > We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small > children & the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago & > they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize > soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow & I am planning > on telling her pretty much the following: > > There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested > positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health & > how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will > not live long at all; others can live for years: & still others will fall > somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now & > I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If > she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take > her to the sanctuary where she is not & she would join the other FeLeuk > cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her & give her good > & loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part > in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but > it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal > that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know > they have done a good & beautiful thing. > > Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk > kitty before & I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to > information I can provide that is fair & objective so that they can make > an informed & compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her > but I do not want to mislead them either. > > Please help me. > > Pam > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Comparison of ELISA and IFA and pretty good guidelines
I copied only a small part because this forum accepts only 20 KB - see the whole thing, though! Very good information: http://www.natural-cat-health-remedies.com/feline-leukemia-test.html Feline Leukemia Test - Points to Remember .No test is 100% accurate. .The ELISA test should be repeated in 8 to 12 weeks to see if the virus has been eliminated. .The IFA test should also be repeated in 8 to 12 weeks - if the cat was in an early stage of infection, the IFA initially may not have been positive but may become so after 12 weeks. .A cat with an initial negative test result but with the potential of having been exposed to FeLV should be retested after a minimum of 30 days. .The ELISA and IFA tests cannot diagnose cats with latent infection since the virus is absent in both serum and white cells. The only way to diagnose cats with latent infection is to remove a sample of the cat's bone marrow and test for presence of the virus. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Gosh, Tad, I read something like this and think, "could I go through that?" You're some kind of hero! Peace ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:04 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions My vet always thought that they never were actually born with it but were infected moments after birth... And the mother who was very sick would pass soon after giving birth... The kittens would be in poor health because of poor nutrition from the sick mother... One of my first rescues was a litter of 4 kittens that were found alone at about one day old and were hand raised till at 8 weeks they were tested and found to be pos Again at 12 weeks and again at 16 weeks when they came to live with me They were all very healthy kittens... The first one passed at about 6 months... The second at 9 months and the last 2 at 11 and 12 months I have always thought that was average for kittens exposed at a very young age I have had several older pos. cats live for about 6 years Tad On 6/5/2011 12:48 PM, Natalie wrote: > I know it can't be proven; but when they are born with it, they are usually sickish and die soon - most don't make it past a few months (that I have know of at my friend's rescue group). > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite
I have been bitten many times over the years by my own cats. Sometimes play just got too rough o I was trying to get a mat out of their hair. Last time was a neighbor's catwho came to court my girls (all spayed so wouldn't do him any good). Well Harley who was 3 months old darted out the door and sipped around the corner of the garage and startled Moses who jumped for Harley and got me when I reached to grab Harley and get him out of harms way. It was bleeding all over the place so washed it with peroxide and put on a pressure bandage and went to ER. Then I had to find the cat's home. Didand we confined him for the equired time even tho I did not think it necessary. He looked to good to have rabies. Good ending, we ar oth still alive and well. That is the only time I went to the ER, but he was not my cat and I figured it was better to be safe than sorry. Edna Taylor wrote: > > Yes it got infected quickly. Pootie is not Feluk positive. He was abused so > I stole him from a neighbor in our old neighborhood ;) > > > Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:39:20 -0500 > > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite > > > > Edna, > > > > So sorry you experienced such a horrible bite! Did it get infected? Is he a > > FeLV positive kitty? > > > > At least I know what to do now if it ever happens to me or any member of my > > family. It sounds much too painful. Some people take pain much better than > > others but not me, I'm a total wimp!! > > > > Hopefully, I will never get a deep puncture wound from a bite. I let my > > male > > cat get rough enough with me that he wraps his paws around my hand and > > bites > > my hand while thumping both back feet against my forearm. He does not draw > > his claws, but occasionally he has bitten me hard enough that I hollered > > "ouch!" Yeah, he gets a little rough sometimes, and he is neutered. He > > needs > > a companion to get rough with! > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Edna Taylor" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 3:10 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite > > > > > > > > Lynda, > > > > Yes, it is usually a very deep bite to require medical treatment. When > > Pootie bit me (don't know why, he was sleeping and it was about 3 am) he > > bit > > clear through to the muscle of my forearm. I couldn't even move my hand all > > day :( > > > > Edna > > > > > Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:05:43 -0500 > > > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite > > > > > > Wow! Reading all of these messages with bad experience with cat bites, I > > > consider myself VERY lucky. I've gotten bit a lot, but it sounds like it > > > has > > > to be a deep puncture type bite. Is this correct? I'm glad that you have > > > shared your experiences. I bet most of us now won't mess around if we get > > > bit. I know I won't! > > > > > > Jannes - what have you done so far? How are you feeling? Let us hear from > > > you soon :0) I'm hoping you have a good outcome! > > > > > > Lynda > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Maureen Olvey" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:53 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG - when I got bit a couple months ago I just ran inside and washed it > > > out > > > really good with soap and water. That was it. Guess I was lucky. I had > > > read that soap and water are good enough as long as you wash it good so > > > now > > > when I get scratched I just use soap and water. Anyway, I never went to > > > the doc until three weeks later for something else. That's when I talked > > > to > > > him about it and he fussed at me. Guess I'll be more careful next time. > > > Yikes! > > > > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > > > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > > > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > > > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark > > > Twain > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: sea7...@gmail.com > > > > Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:43:40 -0500 > > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite > > > > > > > > Wash the wound with antibiotic soap and keep antibiotic ointment on it. > > > > Also treat with hot compresses. It will draw white blood cells to the > > > > area. The Dr told me to do this. > > > > Autumn bit the fire out of me when I was 6 months pregnant. My hand > > > > swelled up and was red and sore. I never developed streaks, but went to > > > > Urgent Care for antibiotics. Make sure you eat your yogurt, if you get > > > > them. They are STRONG. FELV + have filthy mouths:-/ > > > > I also urge you not to tell them that it was your cat. Just emphasize > > > > that > > > > said cat had it's rabies shot. > > > > ~Susan A > > > > >
